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Mun TE versus LVSW 2.0.11

Hi guys (first post!)
I have a couple of questions before I flash WM6 on my trinity. The two main versions are MUN and LVSW's flavours of WM6. However, I would like to know what are the main differences between the two current latest versions (such as OS/program versions, program lists etc).
How is the stability of either of these versions compared to my factory Orange M700 (WM5)?
What are the main bugs?
Is it worth flashing a buggy WM6 over a stable WM5? What are the advantages?
Thanks in advance for the replies

Hm, threads like this can sometimes kill good collaboration, even when they don't intend to. You should heed the statement inherent in your moniker. You are who you are, and you should chose accordingly.
They are both good ROMs. Read through the threads, learn a bit about both, then decide which one work better for the person that you are.
Do us a favor and delete this thread.

iamwhoiam said:
Hi guys (first post!)
I have a couple of questions before I flash WM6 on my trinity. The two main versions are MUN and LVSW's flavours of WM6. However, I would like to know what are the main differences between the two current latest versions (such as OS/program versions, program lists etc).
How is the stability of either of these versions compared to my factory Orange M700 (WM5)?
What are the main bugs?
Is it worth flashing a buggy WM6 over a stable WM5? What are the advantages?
Thanks in advance for the replies
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Read through the threads. Read the wiki. Do searches.
Try each rom (there are more than just these two, rom variants exist too) on your device...decide for yourself, according to your needs.
Nobody will respond to a poll like this, who respects the work of XDA rom developers, because it's not in the spirit of of this site.

DeviLduck said:
Read through the threads. Read the wiki. Do searches.
Try each rom (there are more than just these two, rom variants exist too) on your device...decide for yourself, according to your needs.
Nobody will respond to a poll like this, who respects the work of XDA rom developers, because it's not in the spirt of of this site.
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Nothing can substitute your own personal experience, it is the only important thing in this trip called Life... In every area and in every situation, give it a try...

I buy a Trinity. I find a forum dedicated to my new wonderphone on the internet. There are so many pages on this forum but I manage to find details of WM6 ROMS available for my device. But the threads for each of the main ROMS are like 100 pages long. Can you imaging reading through all that? Me neither - so I'll be clever, start a poll and let everyone else summarise the threads and decide for me. An idea nearly as genius as my new phone. If only life were so simple.
Now think about it.
1. If everyone created a new thread like this, we'd have a site full of crappy threads, non of them with much information (nobody is going to repeat their reply posts time and time again to the same questions/issues. The site would be rubbish
2. Your usage of the ROM may differ from others and you may come across some "bugs" that nobody else has - you thereby contribute to the development of the ROM by highlighting difficulties that you have - and things you like about the new ROM build.
3. How good a ROM is depends what you do with it or what you want to do with it. Do you video call a lot? Do you MMS a lot? Do you email a lot? Is taking photos with GPS coordinates the most important feature for you? These things will influence your choice of ROM.
So to reiterate: give them a try, read through the threads (all of the work, experiences, information is there - but need to be read - nobody will summarise for you), don't expect any nealed's ROMS are by far the best - don't consider anything else type of answers - you won't get them (each ROM has it's merits and if there was a ROM so buggy that it was awful, I think you would probably know about it through the posts in the threads), and lastly, once you have tried different ROMS share your experiences. But remember facts and data - (this does not work, that seems slower, this option has disappeared) rather than I prefer, I think etc - which is a lot less useful.
Welcome to xda-developers iamwhoiam. Be yourself and express yourself, but don't try to rubbish the hard work of any one ROM developer over another.
Now, in the wise words of MacGuy2006
Do us a favour and delete this thread.
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Keyboard color and remove HTC home
sorry worng thread

MODS deleat this Damn Useless THREAD
Yo!!!! MAN "IAMWHOIAM"
U might be nuts and really Damn mad,
Man If u wanna check both great cookers Roms, so why hell u dont try it BOTH and check yourself, No need to compare any Roms here, because no one Works for you Damn it and U are not Obliged to use any roms of any Cookers Nor to Offence them. So Damn it your Useless questions and remarks to hell and Keep it for yourself.
Here Guys days and nights are making great and wonderfull jobs, really hard works and DAMN NO ONE PAY THEM FOR ALL, And nor they have any obligation towards Us. All brothers, friends, Cookers, Helpers, Testers are here to make this Community to be better each day and each times.
So man, i really dont know From where U fall out, but "Brother" Tight your nuts well and Keep your mouth shut from Asking NONSENSE. Thank You to Better Understand NOW.

That this is an "unhappy", "uninspired" and "let the others decide for me" (as nealed said) thread, true.
That fresh users nowadays don't use the search funtion, true.
But there's no need for being cruel, rude and impolite.
Maybe we would need more mods to sort things out, delete/move/ban/etc. threads.

When new version B&B?

Does anybody know when there will be a new B&B version??

ekops said:
Does anybody know when there will be a new B&B version??
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why do you want a new version?
B&B 4.1 runs perfectly!

Meschle's much better.

why new version
I totally agree, it works perfect and fine, but I want the new buildnummer
(CE OS 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.7.0)

ekops said:
I totally agree, it works perfect and fine, but I want the new buildnummer
(CE OS 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.7.0)
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Try my new rom... it has the new build... runs very fast and stable.... give it a try..

biranouran said:
Meschle's much better.
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Seriously... what makes you the expert, I am getting tired of you tards and your pointless posts, so much like this one, I have officially stooped to the tard level thanks to you and your kind, great, now let me gather my thoughts and move on to helping people and actually trying to make a difference here as opposed to making statements that help no one, like the one above... and obviously this one

You guys are funny ! Why don't you point out which rom is good for what reason. Just saying that Meschle's is better lacks too much information.
I like the stability of Meschle's roms and like the style of Tom's. Maybe some day I will be able to combine both in one.

Hey guys dont start a rom war - me, tom and fracoon all help each other and are friends - what ever rom you choose - its a collective effort

[email protected] said:
Seriously... what makes you the expert, I am getting tired of you tards and your pointless posts, so much like this one, I have officially stooped to the tard level thanks to you and your kind, great, now let me gather my thoughts and move on to helping people and actually trying to make a difference here as opposed to making statements that help no one, like the one above... and obviously this one
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pls dont use insulting words, i m tard, ok. One can say tom rom runs perfectly, why i can not say my opinion? Ok i m not expert, but i can tell my experience with different roms. tom s rom is good, perfect, but i just want to say meschle s is better, what s your problem?

I am reading Xda-Developers now for a couple of months. By now i only read the same stupid Questions over and over again. When do we have a bug free version, where do i find the answer for my problem, what rom do i need to flash, how do i do this and that and so on...
I realy understand that some of the "advanced users" are of the opinion that they have to leave the forum because of these idiots.
I tried BB 4.0, BB4.1 and meschles one. Every ROM is PERFECT because they are trying to give us the perfect result. If there is a Problem they are trying to help.
It really is a shame that these "kids" are doing this to our heroes. Keep on giving us these perfect roms and do not give up.
In this Community we have a couple of persons who repect and honor your work.
"So to all of you: Read The Forum and do not ask for things that have been answered"
--- First Post in my life HAHHAAAAAAA----

tonyclifton said:
I am reading Xda-Developers now for a couple of months. By now i only read the same stupid Questions over and over again. When do we have a bug free version, where do i find the answer for my problem, what rom do i need to flash, how do i do this and that and so on...
I realy understand that some of the "advanced users" are of the opinion that they have to leave the forum because of these idiots.
I tried BB 4.0, BB4.1 and meschles one. Every ROM is PERFECT because they are trying to give us the perfect result. If there is a Problem they are trying to help.
It really is a shame that these "kids" are doing this to our heroes. Keep on giving us these perfect roms and do not give up.
In this Community we have a couple of persons who repect and honor your work.
"So to all of you: Read The Forum and do not ask for things that have been answered"
--- First Post in my life HAHHAAAAAAA----
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stupid question?
You think this is a forum just for "advanced users"? When I valide my inscription, I never learned not to post stupid question. Ok I agree some noobs questions have already answers, some questions are not really questions. But I think that, above these questions, there is a communication, interactivity between the users ( or not advanced users) with the developpers as Tom, Meschle, Fracoon etc. So if really some developpers do not like the way many people who try these roms with their own risk & peril, share their feelings here, their experience, well leaving this furum is a right way.

Maybe there should be a section for n00b questions, rom wars etc - and there should be couple more mods from comunity who could move redundant answred etc topics away from advanced section, so ppl dont get spamed with all the answered questions etc.
I know i would agree to be such a mod.

Don´t stop wasting threadspace.
biranouran said:
pls dont use insulting words, i m tard, ok. One can say tom rom runs perfectly, why i can not say my opinion? Ok i m not expert, but i can tell my experience with different roms. tom s rom is good, perfect, but i just want to say meschle s is better, what s your problem?
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Well, you think meschle´s is better. Well I think I like white more than green. Because it´s more - you know - white. So do I have to write this here? Absolutly, because I wanna everyone to know because it´s so important...
Do you get it?
Kind regards
bb

Damn, why is the "search"-button gone - again?
biranouran said:
stupid question?
You think this is a forum just for "advanced users"? When I valide my inscription, I never learned not to post stupid question. Ok I agree some noobs questions have already answers, some questions are not really questions. But I think that, above these questions, there is a communication, interactivity between the users ( or not advanced users) with the developpers as Tom, Meschle, Fracoon etc. So if really some developpers do not like the way many people who try these roms with their own risk & peril, share their feelings here, their experience, well leaving this furum is a right way.
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Do you have to be an "advanced user" for using the search option in a thread? Do you really think? I hope not. And it´s not only some developers who are tired reading 100 pages of - maybe - 10 different questions which already solved some post before.
kr bb

Maybe to go back to the topic I have a question to all of you guys: Why don't we all share our experience in such a way that all the noobs of us can climb up to the status of an advanced user and cook their own ROMs? Tom has got enough stuff to do, don't push too hard on getting a new ROM.
I'm currently working on writing tutorials that include everything including pictures of what you need to do - almost idiot-proof tutorials. If every person adds a little bit to every user's experience we are all getting advanced users in a few weeks. I still didn't manage to cook a ROM which I consider perfect, I don't think that any of you guys would actually call my ROMs perfect, I prefer other applications than you.
Pleas share and don't swear!

biranouran said:
stupid question?
You think this is a forum just for "advanced users"? When I valide my inscription, I never learned not to post stupid question. Ok I agree some noobs questions have already answers, some questions are not really questions. But I think that, above these questions, there is a communication, interactivity between the users ( or not advanced users) with the developpers as Tom, Meschle, Fracoon etc. So if really some developpers do not like the way many people who try these roms with their own risk & peril, share their feelings here, their experience, well leaving this furum is a right way.
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Of course this is not a community only for "advanced people" but like bionicbee sayd: it is very frustrating to read a thread that is open for 2 days and already has 25 pages full of the same questions and requests. I do not understand how someone who is interested in his gadget is not willing to read a couple of pages to have a "advanced view". Everyone has questions and its ok to ask but by repeating everything instead of searching is not alright. It is also not ok to ask for more and more instead of beeing happy that a whole community is after the goal of solving all bugs. You are right that a forum needs questions to get to some issues and problems but you would be tired too if you want to know how to flash a rom but have to read 20 posts like: "how do i use a spoon" or "the rom come out today but i need a german version with another theme".
I just think everyone has to play by the rules of the community and ask questions if he (or her) is not able to find a solution on his (or her) own.

B&B 4.2 is in beta test now.
Hope TOM completed version 4.2 soon.
We say thank so much to TOM
See it here (Post by TOM 02-09-2007, 05:53 PM):
http://pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=12545&page=6
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Just wait

this is the answer
This is the answer I waited for, txs, and Tom we love you!!

There is just one word anybody needs to learn:
Patience

FLASHing Addiction - Are You Clean?

I was just wondering the other day, while browsing several Mobile Devices’ resource sites and fora, have we forgot something? I was just going through some more posts over at the forums and suddenly it all became very clear to me: YES we did! Answer yourself the following question: why did you buy your shiny new Smartphone for? Read on for my take on why we spend so many $/€ on devices these days.
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Here’s a short one for starters, maybe it will help you later on:
Addiction (ad⋅dic⋅tion [uh-dik-shuhn]):
- noun:
The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
(Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1), Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.)
Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance.
(The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.)
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Flashing is the process of re-programming a mobile phones' firmware. […] Flashing may be performed on most makes or models of a mobile phone.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashing_(cell_phones))
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So, maybe take your time and answer this simple poll question: Are You a FLASHing Addict?
Seems like there’s a new wind blowing: we spend more time flashing our devices than using them for the purpose they were built and for what we have bought them for in the first place. We tend to forget that we possess a Mobile Device (which after all, is just an enhanced, feature packet mobile phone running an operating system), the thing we spent $/€???? on, not the latest model “TwIcEaDaY” from manufacturer FLASHME.
We live in a world where the classic meaning of the sentence “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” has been completely twisted. We need to make the following things clear: first, flashing your mobile device is legal and accepted until you apply the official updates of your phone’s manufacturer. This happens twice a year, if you’re lucky. Somehow I have a feeling this is not you!... Second, anything else you temper with in the flashing meaning of the word, voids your warranty. Third: there’s copyright, but let’s just suppose for the sake of the article we live in Utopia and we all respect that!
So, how many times have you flashed this year? This month? This week? Have you flashed today? Here’s a classic from a forum: “version […] rocks, damn cool, works like a charm, absolutely flawless! Congratulations
but I’ll flash version […], I’ve been using version […] for two whole days and it’s getting a bit boring :-D see you at the next version!”. Congratulations, two whole days! I have a question, Mister: have you called someone today? Have you sent an e-mail, text message, browsed the Internet, navigated, written a document? Have you even used your device today??? Another one: have you formatted or reinstalled your desktop/notebook today? No? Why???
Folks, it’s no longer about fixing issues. It’s not even about upgrading performance, stability, operating system. It’s about addiction. Flashing takes anywhere between 10 and 20 minutes, completely setting up your device takes anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours. I don’t even actually use my device that much a day, and believe me, I bought it for a mobile office solution!
How long did you stay clean? Try to make it as much as possible and remember to actually use your device every now and then, because you bought a Smartphone, not a lab rat.
NOTE:
Anonymous poll included!

im addicted and like being an addict to flashing the diamond ,,,and not hardcore dope by the way how many times can we flash the diamond/touchpro till we gots to get anotha won

my name is kukuriku and thanks to the RFA (Rom Flashers Anonymous) i am clean for 14 days, 37 minutes and 12 seconds now.

I am about to use, im preparing right now

KukurikU said:
my name is kukuriku and i am clean for 14 days, 37 minutes and 12 seconds now.
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Hi KukurikUuuuuuuu!

Hello to everyone, my name is Sergio and Im an addict to flashing.
It all started when I got my Diamond. The rest is just downhill.
I have stayed clean for 8 days.

falshing addiction?
I agree that flashing is an addiction .... but it does pass. on my old apache I used to flash almost weekly, now with my diamond I have only flashed once(so far) as many of the "custom" roms are all the same (essentially) I haven't felt the need to flash over and over for little to no benifit. I am currently trying to find a good tut to help me learn to cook my own rom so I can make exactly what i want. Then hopefully I can stem my own urges to flash just for the sake of having a new rom that i can post about over and over till some one fixes all the bugs for me just so I can flash again and start this cycle anew.
Flashing is an addiction that has also become an epidemic IMHO
Unreal
P.S. if any1 knows of a good tut I would appreciate a PM to let me know how or where to start to learn to cook up my own.

hi sergiooooo! we love you sergiooo!

unrealpun said:
I agree that flashing is an addiction .... but it does pass. on my old apache I used to flash almost weekly, now with my diamond I have only flashed once(so far) as many of the "custom" roms are all the same (essentially) I haven't felt the need to flash over and over for little to no benifit. I am currently trying to find a good tut to help me learn to cook my own rom so I can make exactly what i want. Then hopefully I can stem my own urges to flash just for the sake of having a new rom that i can post about over and over till some one fixes all the bugs for me just so I can flash again and start this cycle anew.
Flashing is an addiction that has also become an epidemic IMHO
Unreal
P.S. if any1 knows of a good tut I would appreciate a PM to let me know how or where to start to learn to cook up my own.
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yep! that's the next step. from user to producer and distributor!

Hi, I'm addicted since I got my first HTC, the MDA Compact (the Magician).
Since then I got an Hermes, a Kaiser and now a Diamond.
It's been about 3 years by now, must have flashed at least 500 times.
The devices and ROMs keep getting better and better.
But still...I'm searching for the ONE...
Am I ashamed I'm addicted? No not at all........................... Who is???

I was clean for 2 Days Yes I am an addict

The greed in all of us makes us addicts or victims. One has to know its limits, and then we can all answer your question..
If u can get more for the money you've spent, and get some new OS or application that u can use, u become addictive to the process, but not an addict. If u continue to search for more, and u get close to the limit, u feel boring and u become an addict. When the hardware capabilities are depleted, HTC will introduce a new device, so here we go again .. That is why Nokia (as leading mm producer) still keeps the recipe: new phone-new features.
And we keep the motto: new flash-new options-new problems i think that HTC as the biggest WM supplier divorces from MS, and starts implementing new OS's, then our motto can truly be: new flash-new options-no problemos
I hope I’ve put some of my perspective to the issue..
Take care flashers and keep the social side of this forum to the highest levels.
greets...

I'm doped on flashing Mostly experimenting more on my XIP guides

im a flashing whore
ill flash anything you throw at me
ps....flashed twice yesterday....next flash sunday.....fingers crossed for duttys update

i'm definitely an addict...
think i flashed my diamond >50 times right now, and with dutty's new release
today or tomorrow the number would increase by one shortly...

See my signature, do I need to say more ?

iXiR said:
See my signature, do I need to say more ?
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Do you get to actually use the device, like making a call, sending a text message and so on?

tnyynt said:
Do you get to actually use the device, like making a call, sending a text message and so on?
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Yes, I actually do.
During the day I use it. At the end of the day I flash. If there is nothing to flash, I cook my own ROM to flash.
It's bad, isn't it

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Flashing takes anywhere between 10 and 20 minutes, completely setting up your device takes anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours.
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2 hours? If I could get all my software installed, configured and tweaked in less than a day I'd probably flash more often!
I've had my Diamond (my first WM device) since the start of August and I've only flashed twice so far!

Davey101 said:
2 hours? If I could get all my software installed, configured and tweaked in less than a day I'd probably flash more often!
I've had my Diamond (my first WM device) since the start of August and I've only flashed twice so far!
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I am up and running in an hour (I made cab files and scripts with different settings so my personal settings are back in no time )

Is there a stable 2.3 gingerbread rom out there?

I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.

You need to calm down buddy!!! If you don't like what you see on xda go somewhere else! There will never be a solid rom they just get better and better!!
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yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty

First off, wow, asking for a stable version of an operating system that's barely out on any phone yet is so terrible that it obviously seems you haven't been doing hours of reading. Skim through the first page of the Q&A section for the evo or any of most recent pages on those "300 pages" of comments and you will find people talking about their problems with these ROMs.
Besides that... ruling out the terrible wiki we have for the evo, I can only offer my own opinion in what gingerbread ROM I believe is best. I suggest the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 RC if you don't keep up with the nightlies. CM7 has just about every feature the evo is hardware capable of. It runs fine for me along with Savaged Zen's kernel. Try out different kernels and ROMs to see what is best for you instead of relying on 300 pages of comments.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's for sure!
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Get latest ROM Manager which has a "ROM" library now. Went from both Gingerbread SalvageMod to CM7RC4 due to Ad-Hoc availability. Lots more listed too.
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OP,
It's fine if you don't want to search. It's fine if you don't want to read through threads that are hundreds of pages long. Both of those things are really your problem, not anybody's here. Also, it's fine if you would prefer a "cleaner" interface or a more organized presentation of ROMS available for the EVO; even I think that's a good idea that someone could really take advantage of on their own personal website with AdSense or something.
But what isn't fine is:
"...you people..."
"...it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!"
"...300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless."
"This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative."
If you came in here to post that and expected not to be insulted, called a troll, or start a flame fest then you, my friend, have some maturing to do.

...most if not all are beta's or rc's (or based off), so i say no!

Nightly 36 of CM7 is working 100% for everything I've tried thus far (4G, wifi tethering, maps, camera) but there's no guarantee there won't be issues later.

First, I can say the information here is some what scattered but the amount of the users on this site would make it nearly impossible for a group of non paid Admins to keep track of. Second, almost all version of GB are as close as they can be to stable, if none of those please you compile your own if it's not that hard. Third, what about Sense? Do you want it or need it, could use some maybe? Finally, IMO the Destroyer V2 is solid, with a lot of options, but requires reading the first post to flash properly.

Im surprised anyone is replying to this arrogant jacka**
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CM7 nightly 36 will have everything working, other than the slight chance you will not be able to get the gps working with the sense fix.
Or try RC8 of the ROM linked in the yet another AOSP Ginger ROM thread in the dev section.
Or if you want something better, learn how to make it yourself (Forum or ROM).

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts,
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You people? You mean those of us who spend time learning how to improve our smartphone experience while also helping others improve theirs?
but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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Many of us have no problem finding the information we seek. We take advantage of the "search this forum" feature as well as a little patience and common sense. Although this forums contain a wealth of information, it is NOT a library.
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
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There are several gingerbread roms available for you to test. CM7, SalvageMod & OMGB to name a few. They all work, but they all have quirks just like the rom that came preinstalled on your EVO.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information.
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Every question is simple to those who have the answers. On the pages where the aforementioned roms can be downloaded are clear descriptions of what works and what doesn't.
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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Seek and ye shall find.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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There are many alternatives for you to choose, however, I must warn you that you will have to read and search for the information you seek therefore, you might find it a bit frustrating.
Now, if you want or need help, there are many of us who will go out of our way to assist you. We enjoy helping others and we don't mind helping you. So please, post your question(s) and leave the berating comments to yourself. Enjoy the rest of your day and, by the way, I was I was helpful to you.
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Been running SalvageMod for a few days now. Not one issue.

i've been runnung destroyer v1 for 3 or 4 weeks, love it, not one issue except i can't get the hdmi out to work, which is fine cause i don't use that feature, other then that its stable enough as my daily, bluetooth, gps, 4g, everything working on my phone

You're right. It's next to impossible, specially if you're new to the forums, to find out certain details about a ROM. The wiki page for the ROMs and kernels are so outdated and rarely, if ever, mention what doesn't work on that ROM/Kernel. Doing searches yield pretty much every thread since most keywords and tags apply to all of them, understandably so. The issue can be remedied by keeping the wiki section up to date.
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.

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I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.
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Was it too much to ask of the OP to simply ask his question? The roms, mods, kernels and themes are FREE for us to use and these forums provide us with a place where we can FREELY enjoy the dedicated work of the devs and improve our overall smartphone user experience. So what, if we have to do a little bit of searching to find what we seek. Do we not search for items at a grocery store or at a retail clothing store? Do many of us not use search engines to find what we seek? The point is this: Instead of taking frustrations out on the people who control/moderate these forums, simply ask the question and let those who are willing to help answer it. If that is too much of a strain then feel free to start a forum of your own and arrange it however you see fit.
As for your comment about garnering hostility, lets review:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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That's like entering someone's house asking for a cup of sugar but then telling the person you're asking how messy his house is.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer
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If is was so simple why was there a need to ask the question in the first place?,
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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These forums are in use 24 hours a day 7 days a week with people posting & replying almost nonstop. The pages will continue to increase and the comments he deem as useless may be important to a great deal of others.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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C'mon. Please explain to me how we should not view his comments as hostile & arrogant. Telling others that they need to do a better job at providing a better way for him to get the information he seeks as if he is a paying customer of some sort is indeed disrespectful, hostile and arrogant. PERIOD! In my opinion, of course.

wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple

CheesyNutz said:
wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple
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'nuf said.......I try to always be respectful when helping others or when asking for help in these forums. On Twitter, my followers will quickly tell you that I tell it like it is, but I try to do so respectfully. Sometimes, I fail...lol...

[8.14.11] Honeycomb 3.2 SGT dev log

Android 3.2 Honeycomb for the Samsung Galaxy Tab
8/14/11: For the time being, this thread will close. Work continues on this (and many other) projects, but this thread has grown too large for its own good and has ceased to be relevant. I will start a new thread when I release 3.2 HC, until then, I'm doing my part to help keep XDA crap-free.
See you soon.​
8/5/11: I've been pretty quiet for the last week or so... I've had a lot on my plate, but a lot of things are beginning to fade into the background and HC is more in focus. So far, we have a working kernel for HC (which was a much bigger undertaking that I had thought it would be,) and an HC system based on 3.2 and GB that boots minimally, but provides proof of concept. Next up is correcting video issues, merging in things from the Xoom, building wifi and 3G and enabling the SDcard. I plan to fix video issues first, if only to provide you with some screenshots.
7/25/11:
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public void studyForFinals()
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if eatSleepUrinate()
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7/23/11: Made quite a few kernel modifications and achieved an HC boot today. Hammering out GFX issues as the system doesn't fully boot in.
7/20/11: I just finished building the first version of the new HC kernel with the latest CWM and it boots. The source is up on github.
7/20/11: I spent the last couple of days building a new honeycomb kernel based on the recently released gingerbread cdma kernel along with a recovery built from CM7 source. Things are proceeding slowly, but progress is being made. It looks like I'll begin assembling the basic system components tomorrow and start uploading things to github as they change. Drop in and watch the magic happen in slow motion over the next few days if you want.
7/17/11: Didn't get quite as far as boot, but I did layout the SDK and the Xoom dump, made a lot of notes and made a system map. Next step is to identify the changes that provide compatibility to our type of device to make sure I target my coding for that. Also working on a new kernel based on gingerbread. Since I'm starting fresh here, I might as well switch to a GB base. So the next couple of days will be about kernel building and assembling a bare base of 3.2 into which I can pour code from the GB releases. Oh, and by the way, I just wanna say:
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7/15/11: Getting caught up on things. Looks like dev starts tomorrow on HC. Hoping to at least have boot by tomorrow evening.
7/12/11: It never fails; wait a few minutes and everything changes. 3.2 dropped today for the Xoom. I told ya, as soon as I say anything, it's almost immediately irrelevant. Well, now I'm committed to a couple of things, so I'll have to start development in a few days, but I'll let you know how it's going as I do.
7/12/11: It's been one crazy thing after another... It seems that the universe has conspired to prevent development.
First, I got 3G running on both tabs... but spent days trying to work out a way to connect, (it recognizes the modem, but wont actually latch onto a network.) Then I learned about GB dropping shortly and spent a few days doing research on that in hopes of avoiding a slew of bricks, (only to discover that there is no change to the bootloader so far with CDMA devices... excellent news, but a lot of wasted research.) And then I got tied up with family affairs, work, summer classes etc. etc. etc.
The last straw was when I discovered that 3.2 is going to drop on a new 7 inch tab in a month or two (and will be pushed to the Motorola Xoom in a matter of days according to various accounts on tech blogs.) With that news, I've dropped development altogether.
3.2 is designed to be compatible with 7 inch screens and single-core processors... So continuing this port would be like trying to cram your foot into the wrong size shoe when the right size shoe is sitting just across the room... what's the point?
So when I get my hands on that, we will have an HC that was designed to run on devices like ours (with all of the tasty features available in 3.1 plus whatever new things they do for 3.2.) As the port of 3.01 will like never run with full features for our tab, I think waiting for 3.2 (a short wait) will be the best option as we will have all of the features we should have had in the first place, and then some.
In the meantime, I have been swamped with work of various kids, cheifly the development of a website that will provide a space for new and less experienced developers to hone their skills with the benefit of more experienced developers to directly assist them (along with a web page of their own, a forum with moderator privileges and a mirror for projects.) We've been calling it an "Android development lab" and I have high hopes for it as a place for individuals to develop skills, build software and stage releases fit for XDA and the like. Though XDA fulfills this function in some ways, it is often difficult for the new developer to realize a vision by simply searching forum posts. (We are in no way attempting to draw traffic away from XDA, but rather providing an environment focused on preparing inexperienced individuals to contribute to places like the XDA community.) It's still under construction, but should be ready in a few days.
Also, I've been contributing to various other projects in small ways and have worked in an advisory capacity with several individuals to help them get projects going. I've found that I really enjoy this role, and will continue in it for the time being.
While we are waiting for 3.2, I will be working in partnership with others to bring you MIUI for the tab (already under way), a dual boot option for the galaxy tab and a native linux installation focused on utility and hacking. Look for these projects soon.
For now, I will no longer be updating this thread. My apologies for leaving it hanging here so long, it's just that every day seemed to bring with it an unpredictability that quickly rendered anything I had to say irrelevant.
See you soon.
~Space
7-5-11 #2: fyi:
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7-5-11: I know I'm dragging my ass on this one, but sit tight. Good things are coming.
7-1-11: I meant to update sooner than this, but shortly after I created this thread, I found out that gingerbread would be coming to the Sprint tab in a matter of days... (and perhaps the Verizon tab soon?) This changes things in several ways.
There will be new bootloaders on upgraded Sprint tabs that won't be compatible with my froyo-based HC build (and the Verizon tab as well if GB ever gets released for it--I assume it's to happen in the near future.)
I don't know if these boot-loaders will be locked. I don't know if it will be possible to revert to froyo boot-loaders to run my HC, and I definitely don't want to tell anyone not to upgrade their tab to GB just to run my HC. Preventing you folks from enjoying your device would defeat the entire purpose of what I'm doing here.
Not knowing how things are about to change for us, I took a couple of days to do some research and see what I could find out... And I found that there is no existing information, leaked or otherwise, on what the boot-loader situation will be (but if your google-fu outranks mine, please post your find here.)
So i began to look into moving my work into a GB base. I think that not only will this be possible, but should net similar results as using a froyo base for the same purposes (it might be a touch more difficult as GB is not nearly as clean, organized or stable a system as froyo IMO.)
So, I have a froyo based HC release soon to come after it gets some finishing touches and a few last minute fixes. At the same time, I'm working on getting a GB base assembled and functional so that we can side-step these potential issues. When the new HC is released, some of you will be able to run it, others may not, but please don't hesitate to upgrade to GB if you wish. I'll do my best to get HC working for upgraders as well.
This whole thing has me running a little behind schedule--of course. But stay tuned for more details on the upcoming HC release... I think you'll be pleased.
6-30-11: Here we go again.

Reserved for later

And again, reserved

what are the plans now Space?

looking forward to this

k0sh said:
what are the plans now Space?
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Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!

spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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I, for one, will be glad to join you on your campaign of world, and martian domination!
Onwards!
PS: I mashed your Thanks button until it chided me

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Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?

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LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?
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Depends on the broadband speed...

Count in me if there are some chicks , otherwise i'll take the next flight.
spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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k0sh said:
LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?
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af974 said:
Count in me if there are some chicks , otherwise i'll take the next flight.
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now this is what really i should call LMAO .and WOW you dude just made my night

I've been checking these forums like 3 times a day for a while. Thanks for increasing those numbers. I'm highly anticipating the next release of Honeycomb!

Cant wait man, reading the first three posts made me think of my car lol.
Suzuki Kizashi
(kizashi translated in japanese: good things are coming)

I don't want to be a debbie downer here... and I'm normally one to just stay quiet on most matters...
However, the last thread got out of hand. Off-Topic shenanigans and a constant repetition of questions made it difficult to navigate for both novice and n00b alike... please keep this thread on topic as much as we can. I'm no one, myself. However, I keep my post count down by looking for answers and searching, and it's easier to search a thread full of topic-related posts as opposed to random, mindless banter.
Thanks and Thank you Space for your continued work ethic!

mr2324jgf said:
I don't want to be a debbie downer here... and I'm normally one to just stay quiet on most matters...
However, the last thread got out of hand. Off-Topic shenanigans and a constant repetition of questions made it difficult to navigate for both novice and n00b alike... please keep this thread on topic as much as we can. I'm no one, myself. However, I keep my post count down by looking for answers and searching, and it's easier to search a thread full of topic-related posts as opposed to random, mindless banter.
Thanks and Thank you Space for your continued work ethic!
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Here here!
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spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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I'll bring my father along and together dad and I can engineer and build our war planes. (He tells people how to build jets like the jsf stvl, etc.)
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oldmacnut said:
I'll bring my father along and together dad and I can engineer and build our war planes. (He tells people how to build jets like the jsf stvl, etc.)
Sent from my GTab running Better Than Life RC1
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i can be the assistant engineer, i can rig anything on to anything.

the honeycomb threads make me not want honeycomb

robkoehler said:
the honeycomb threads make me not want honeycomb
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Lol
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so any news? this thread has been pretty quiet considering the fact that the 2.5 thread got locked. im hoping to hear some good news today