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Do we really need a faster device with no functionality?????

Dears...i used almost all the CrossBow ROMs but non of them was good to count on....alot of bugs...hangs....no Video Calling....Window Media Player only works for seconds.......etc..
so what we are seeking now....are we only satisfy with the little bit extra speed???....
anyway...thanks for all the developers...but i think non of them checked his ROM before adding it to the forum....if they did they will clearly notice all these bugs....
ok....now i will return to more trusted and tested rom and i will leave the CrossBow till we get a real trusted ROM....
thanks everyone

astraman said:
Dears...i used almost all the CrossBow ROMs but non of them was good to count on....alot of bugs...hangs....no Video Calling....Window Media Player only works for seconds.......etc..
so what we are seeking now....are we only satisfy with the little bit extra speed???....
anyway...thanks for all the developers...but i think non of them checked his ROM before adding it to the forum....if they did they will clearly notice all these bugs....
ok....now i will return to more trusted and tested rom and i will leave the CrossBow till we get a real trusted ROM....
thanks everyone
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Crossbow rom is not for regular use, because it's not that stable yet. From my point of view, it's just for testing or having the flavour of the OS in advance. I suggest you to select a AKU3.5 rom ...

Astraman, I don't think you are getting the point of all this. We all know that the roms will have bugs. The problem is that any rom as of AK3 is not and will not come for the Universal. Not now and not ever.
The only way there is to get a better OS on you Universal is by having various individuals such as Helmi. Midget and Indra to work with whatever they have from the base WM6 rom, and to constantly improve upons this until the rom is solid and usable. We, the users, provide them with feedback on the bugs and I bow in awe for everyone's efforts in all of this.
Anyway, these quirks and bugs are what I myself and many others accept. We install the rom, and signal back what works and what does not work.
If you don't accept this, then don't upgrade, stick to the original releases and wait until something comes out that works well enough to venture into "unsupported territory".
I for one do not miss the Video calling though, my Media Player (PDAVIET ROM) works fine, and for my purpose it is more than stable enough.

anyway...thanks for all the developers...but i think non of them checked his ROM before adding it to the forum
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lol Astraman, no one made anyone use the roms.
We expressly did not want the roms released, and no one ever made any promises about the roms... come on. You're using a questionably aquired, illegally distributed, incomplete, pre-release rom on an unauthorised device, and you're surprised it has issues?
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The roms aren't running on a final device in a final form. You are doing the right thing by waiting and using a proper rom that you're supposed to use.
DO NOT USE CROSSBOW​V​

just to mention: crossbow rom is the stablest rom I've ever used on Uni, I haven't done a SR in almost a week!

Funny thing is when you look at the url of this forum. It says xda-developers so it's intended as a developers forum to share knowledge, not an end user forum.

OK guys....i just have one point of view from this post....why a develpoer add a ROM to the forum which has bugs....for example...all the CrossBow ROMs has no Video Calling but no one of the developer mention that...also the Media Player is not working....so what i mean why do not you wait until you fix these bugs first....and you know that a lot of people are waiting for any new ROM to flash....i do appreciate you jobs...but we have to go step by step...there are alot of ONLY USERS her and we do not want them to miss with there devices.....keep the good work guys...regards

r_c, if only things were so simple!
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vijay555 said:
r_c, if only things were so simple!
www.therapistfinder.com
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OK funny man....thanks for help

r_c said:
Funny thing is when you look at the url of this forum. It says xda-developers so it's intended as a developers forum to share knowledge, not an end user forum.
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Maybe this quote from the the front page of this site will enlighten you a bit...
Welcome to XDA-Developers.com
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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Back on topic..... I think vijay's reply here just about sums it.

astraman, the release of crossbow for the universal will never be official and as such, should only ever be considered a beta or work in progress. When microsoft releases beta versions of software for testing, they expect people to find bugs - why should the WM6 roms for the universal, being developed by a small number of people, in a VERY unofficial capacity be any different?
What you'll find here is maybe some concensus on aspects that don't work correctly, also some concensus on what fixes can be used to make some of those aspects work better (which may then be incorporated into future releases). You may, if you're lucky and know what you're doing, end up with a rom that is stable and works (mostly) in the way you wish.
What you WON'T get is a guarantee that things will be perfect, and that goes for any cooked rom, not just the WM6 ones. As such, you should consider your viewpoint again, and maybe ask yourself whether you should be playing with roms that are not necessarily going to do what you want them to do 'out of the box'.

astraman said:
why a develpoer add a ROM to the forum which has bugs....
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Considered that you done the following,
(a) paid a lot of $$ for a Microsoft Windows that are full of bugs
(b) paid nothing for a hardwork of the others
(c) complained like a baby for buggy ROMs
Action (b) is a very smart move for a crying baby like you.
astraman said:
so what i mean why do not you wait until you fix these bugs first....
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Good question, why don't you wait until the official release for your phone (which I don't think is to be bug free) then? Oh yeah, did any of the developers point a gun on your head to try it out, huh?

@Astra
My 1st guess is you are not very technical person.
Well, for the start, the 2 official ROMs from my phone maker are full of bugs too.
Many of the bugs of those ROMs done by the forumers here are not introduce by them, it is inherit from the ROM which they have got from the "SOURCE", normally the latest test version release by M$ for its supplier of hardwares. The developers here has no source code, but only binarys to work on and playing around with parameters that they or we can work on to remove some removal bugs and improvements.
In all, my honest opinion is that all the ROMs (official & unofficial) have different bugs. And I personally find that the unofficial ROMs seems to be better. (maybe it is the wife & mistress mentality, LOL)
And I can bet that M$ is watching this site and other sites, and improve on their work.
Lastly, Hanmin is right, nobody uses gun here. The people with the brains put up the ROMs, we have also to use our brain to think if we want to use it. Even if you think your brain make a wrong decision, the ROM upgrade is reversible, you can always use your brain to decide to switch back to whatever you like.
My 0.2 cents worth of input using 0.2% of my brain.

astraman said:
OK guys....i just have one point of view from this post....why a develpoer add a ROM to the forum which has bugs....for example...all the CrossBow ROMs has no Video Calling but no one of the developer mention that...also the Media Player is not working....so what i mean why do not you wait until you fix these bugs first....and you know that a lot of people are waiting for any new ROM to flash....i do appreciate you jobs...but we have to go step by step...there are alot of ONLY USERS her and we do not want them to miss with there devices.....keep the good work guys...regards
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what can you do with AKU2's video call if your device freezes? I've this device for one year but I didn't want to make ANY video call.. it's just as useless as MMS (just one benefit: you can send more text than 160 chars)

I for one welcome our clueless newbie overlords with open arms.

In soviet russia, your clueless newbie overlords welcome you.

Guys...i am just comparing ROMs posted here....WM5 vs WM6
i am using Indra 3.3 Beta6 now....very stable...work very good for me
then suddenly every one is talking about WM6....alot of bugs...REAL BUGS...we can say that essentially function are not working....so why is the hurry...as i said before i do appreciate the work of the people here....and there is alot of good cooked ROMs here.....why don't we keep working on the good WM5 ROMs until we get the best from before we think about WM6....we don't have any advantage switching to WM6....just the apperance....nothing else....we can do as we did in WM5 to reach the apperance of WM6 using the good ROMs of WM5 we have here.
i don't want any one to be made of me.......
we are disscussing here.....just tell me one single advantage of WM6 vs WM5
i just want to know...i am learning from you guys....NO HARD FEELINGS

Astraman,
Its just personal choice. I flashed my device with Midget's vanilla ROM, the PDAVIET ROM and now on PDA VEIT final ROM. I found all the 3 to be stable. Not even once has my device hanged.
So its all personal choice. If it works for you, keep it. Otherwise, go for a ROM that works for you

Guys. Be nice now, it wasn't fair to pick on astraman...
Much of the stuff we do on this website is fairly dodgy, risky or cutting edge.
No one forces you to do it anything here, but to quote a post by Sleuth255,
Once again, I'm posting to register my shock and awe (I seem to do this alot here)
Risking a device brick for the benefit of the community is Godlike in my book. I salute everybody who's tried this here.
Damn, you guys are awesome!
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Guys put their expensive devices at risk for the betterment of this brother/sisterhood. You don't have to follow... but you reap the rewards for their efforts.
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My device has never been bricked although i have been through a lot of problems with the help of a few people on this forum.
Regarding Crossbow ROM's they are still unstable and I agree with Vijay that they should not be used yet.
1. They might brick your device.
2. They might brick your SD Card as you have seen before with me.
Stick to the WM5 ROM's. I find that Ivan's AKU 3.5 is the best in WM5 series. He has done a couple of public and developer tests and I fully credit him with making the best WM5 ROM.
Thanks Ivan once again!
And astraman take a chill pill. There are too many noobs on the forum who will "pick" on you/me/others. A suggested thing to do is "ignore" them.
As for AlanJC I remember him being a better person, different character. Now he is just too awkward, I dont feel the real AlanJC's presence on the forum anymore. Its like someone else is pretending to be AlanJC. Like I used to look forward to AlanJC's enlighting posts in the past but nowadays I fear to see his posts.

THE BATTLE OF THE ROMS!!!! Make ur fav ROM win!

Yea, alright, i know, there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion, so Im creatin a poll ova here, and post your opinions abt different ROMS and why you like them and why you use them and pros and cons.... if you don have so much time, or u think its better to read their description or try em out, atleast vote in the poll, its not a really tough thing im asking you to do...
EDIT: Anyone wanting to vote for a version previous to ones listed plz do, in the same option, eg: AX3L or LVSW's and if you like a ROM not listed here, plz do mention it.

my favourite ?
the next

AkshayGenius said:
Yea, alright, i know, there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion, so Im creatin a poll ova here, and post your opinions abt different ROMS and why you like them and why you use them and pros and cons.... if you don have so much time, or u think its better to read their description or try em out, atleast vote in the poll, its not a really tough thing im asking you to do...
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There's no stoppin' you hey AK?
You've obviously read the other threads - seen what others (the majority) think - seen that this type of thread has been created so many times - and you've even seen that
AkshayGenius said:
none of them hv really continued and provided some useful opinion
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but you figured that your poll would be different - that everyone would vote and comment and that something useful would come of it.
OK fairy play to you - I encourage anyone who feels the same to boycott this thread. Sorry AK - no offense meant - but creating 5 threads for the same thing - I just can't see the point. Your last post was in another thread created today on the same topic.???????
Is it me or what?

this poll is great - a third of voters currently think the best ROm is one that does not yet exist!
You lot wouldn't be taking the p**s by any chance?

I like that "i dont understand english" hehehehe great voting

wow, dude, yea, everyone has their own opinions and I created this thread for the benifit of those ppl who are new here, and want to knw which is the best ROM to suit their needs, and yea it is funny that ppl have voted for ingigo's full version, but its because of their trust on mUn, or they already knw it gonna be good, because the FULL edition is just the lite edition plus more apps.
And yea, I posted in another thread created for the same reason, because it wasnt goin anywhere and it didnt have a poll.
And yea, everyone has their own opinion so I respect those ppl who find this thread useless, but till then, the ppl who think otherwise can continue voting and utilize this thread...

How about adding "Shipped ROM" to the poll?

What about PDAVIET ROMs why can I not express my preference for those ROMs? Also - my favourite AX3L ROM is 2.0.5 - why can't I vote for it.
What about Lasagna, Dopod, Spanish, Faman, Bepe's ROM ENG and GER, FLY ROM, UdK's ROM, Ausdim's ROM etc etc.
Even if you wanted just to look and English language ROMs - there are far more than you indicate. even though I really disagree with this thread on several points, if you insist on doing something- at least do it fairly? If this sort of thing can be done fairly.

well alright, although Im pretty sure your favourite ROM IS NOT A3XL 2.0.5, you have a point, so if anyone wants to vote for AX3L ROM 2.0.08 or earlier they can do that in the same option... I was not aware of the other ROMs, so if anyone has a choice not listed, they can very well mention it here. (although, ROMs of other languages are mostly based on the ROMs listed here)
Well, I tried to be fair, if I wasn't, I apologize, and if you anything else left to say, plz do....

Again : same useless question
I'm agree with nealed : "What about Lasagna, Dopod, Spanish, Faman, Bepe's ROM ENG and GER, FLY ROM, UdK's ROM, Ausdim's ROM etc etc"....
Is it a nightmare ...?? Please somebody wake up me !!! Argh....!!

nealed said:
Is it me or what?
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Absolutely agree.
It's the joint work of chefs to make our devices better, and we shall respect their work without this kind of competition.
Ciao

Should we open a thread asking which is better, P3600 or Trinity?
Or Opel or Vauxhal?
You are free to open as many threads as you want, but when you think 1 minute about the real use of this thread, i think that you will hit your head in the wall and call yourself names.
So you think that making a poll will make life easier for the users that want to choose a new ROM? You think that its not easier to read the threads about each of them and then pick the one that has better support for your device/likings?
Or that by doing this you are actually hurting the community by making people actually choose a ROM and make the cookers of the other ROMs leave the scene?
Everybody deserves the right to freedom, but there is a difference between freedom and stupidity and i guess that you are mixing it somehow.
Just my 10 cents... Feel free to disagree

To all SENIOR members, I know that for you this is just 1 more topic about the same old question, but for example for me it's a good information topic, at least to decide what will be my first WM6 ROM!!
I know very well, that 1 ROM could be the better to someone but for another person it can be the worst!
But if we have some kind of information about the pros and cons of the various ROM's then it's easier to decide wich one we will install!
And maybe later when we have more experience we start to try all of them and then we can decide by ourself's.
Maybe this can go STICKY and then no more questions about this

mikhe69 said:
But if we have some kind of information about the pros and cons of the various ROM's then it's easier to decide wich one we will install!
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You can have it if you're not too lazy for read all the post ... It's the better way of learning (and not posting just to know wich underwear i'm gonna use today) !!

All rom rocks and all coockers try to bring smth new to the comunity.

to Mikhe69 and all the others that think this thread is useful...
If you really want to help anybody choosing their ROM then you can make something more helpful. Read all the threads about the available WM6 ROM's, write down their pro's and con's and present this information to the community. When you do this, i am sure that many people will actually thank you and almost for sure that the thread would be a sticky. But this is the hard way, the easy way i think you already know about it...
This is not a question of who it senior or who is junior, its just a question of being lazy.
(Abraco Mikhe69.)
L.

shym said:
You can have it if you're not too lazy for read all the post ... It's the better way of learning (and not posting just to know wich underwear i'm gonna use today) !!
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Unfortunately sometimes u don't have the time to read all the post, and when u just want to put something new on your device, there should be a easy way to help you!
I started yesterday on the WM6 ROM,and already tried 3 ROM's, and I still don't even know how many ROM there's in this forum.
This is why we should have some starting point of information.
Of course this should not be considered has some sort of competition between the ROM developer's, and eventually the newbies will become more able to try new things and after some experiences (sometimes bad) they will decide what is the best ROM for them!

mikhe69 said:
Unfortunately sometimes u don't have the time to read all the post, and when u just want to put something new on your device, !
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I think it's the best way to brick your device : install something without any information about it ! As you want
Like nealed says in an another thread interesting as this one"You will find the pros and cons of each ROM by reading their threads. (If you can't be bothered to do that - this forum probably isn;t for you)."

mun_rus said:
All rom rocks and all coockers try to bring smth new to the comunity.
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Exactly. I am grateful to all of you guys who add flavor to my bland Trinity and are always outdoing yourselves. So for that, they all are great* and thank you.
*Except for that 'official' release, I hated that one personally.

shym said:
I think it's the best way to brick your device : install something without any information about it ! As you want
Like nealed says in an another thread interesting as this one"You will find the pros and cons of each ROM by reading their threads. (If you can't be bothered to do that - this forum probably isn;t for you)."
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Maybe in the future (when I reach senior ) I'll have the same opinion has you, but for know I just think that at least there should be a Thread with the list of all available ROM's in the forum.
This way the newbie's will know where to search!

New User, just wondering about the best ROM with everything working

Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471

gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks
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Thats an opinion based question. I think CM is best, but it doesnt have working WiMax or HDMI. You're gonna want a sense based rom, as those do have working 4g/HDMI. Try some of the more popular ones until you find one that you like.
This kinda question is better asked in Q/A or General.

How do I root?
I just got the phone yesterday from the sprint store and was wondering if I could root it. It just came with 2.2 and when I saw this, it said new evos won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Can someone tell me where I can root it and give me a step by step guide?
Thanks

gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks
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gokuman,
You probably won't get many replies to this thread, as your questions are very open ended, and also this probably isn't the best place to ask. You really need to post these kind of questions in the Evo Q&A forum. With that said, since you're new, I'll try to help.
First off, you need to root your device. There are multiple posts on this topic depending on what version of the Evo you have - the new ones use a different method than the older ones.
As far as ROM's go, there are two flavors - AOSP and Sense. AOSP is the original "Android as Google intended it" with no skins, tweaks, etc. It's very fast, very stable and completely open-source (if you've ever used or seen a Nexus One, this runs stock AOSP android). The downside is that AOSP (at this time) does not support 4G, so if you live in a 4G area, bear this in mind.
Of the AOSP ROMs there are two that stand out: Cyanogen Mod 6.1 (known as CM 6.1) and MIUI. Both are excellent, although I prefer CM 6.1.
Sense ROM's are very similar to to the software that came on your phone. There are multiple options available, although my two personal favorites are Azrael X 2.1 and Sprint Lovers ROM. No disrespect to anyone else, but these are the ones that have worked best for me... With that said, do your research and try a few to make your own conclusions. Most importantly, once you've done some experimenting, post back and let us know your findings.
Thanks,
Matt_TX

Fresh
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gokuman56 said:
I just got the phone yesterday from the sprint store and was wondering if I could root it. It just came with 2.2 and when I saw this, it said new evos won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Can someone tell me where I can root it and give me a step by step guide?
Thanks
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What hboot version did it ship with? That currently dictates your rooting options.
Turn your phone off. Then turn back on holding pwr+vol down. Hboot will be listed.
If you have 2.02 see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Otherwise see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Whatever method you choose be patient, make sure you read the whole post a few times through before you root, and follow the directions exactly. Do that and you will be up and running quick.

Definately in the wrong section, but the best answer is there is no best Rom.
There are best roms for different people. Roms are like cars, there is a different rom for each person. And even then who two people set up the same rom will be so different it's not even funny, because within each rom are options, just like in a car.
I've used Cyanogen and Myn's mainly myself. No suprise, those are both also the most visited and posted in threads int he development section. They are kind of like the Chevy and Ford of the Roms.
Cyanogen is AOSP without sense, and no working 4g/hdmi as stated.
Myn's is a heavily themed sense based rom with everything working, it's very visually appealing, and yet smooth and snappy.
The third Rom I'd quickly mention would be MIUI, if you wanted an Iphone but cant have one, that rom is for you, it is probably the most dev intensive rom of all. It's made by Chinese devs, but the shear amount of detail put into it is breathtaking, they have re organized all the menus and visuals of the rom, but the crazy thing is, they didn't stop there, if you load a new app on it from the market, it actually will change the menus within that app to their system(one that looks very much like an Iphone) I recommend everyone try that rom at least once, It wasn't for me, but it doesn't mean that the attention to detail, and extensiveness of the UI they put in it did not impress me to no ends.
The amount of good roms out there is crazy though, Azrael, Sprint Lovers, Fresh, Evio, Calkulin's... the list just goes on and on, so try a bunch and find one you like, just like buying a car.

stick with the best ignore the rest...MYNS WARM 2.2 RLS4 but just try diff kernels and see what works best! njoy
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I was an avid CM fan when I had my first EVO, then it got stolen, and by the time I had bought another one, MIUI came out. So I figured I'd try it since it's still AOSP and I've been using it ever since. It just streamlines things so well for you, and running off of their stock kernel it's the snappiest ROM I've ever used.

Well, there is a lot to read. In my case I followed the instructions to the T.
Personally I flash a few roms and they work very good, but the Warm two point tow is my favorite.
Here are some links to follow:
READ FIRST.
REMEMBER TO BACKUP
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=120
Read before start the previous
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=122
My favorite ROM
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
List of Custom ROMS
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Custom_ROMS
Hope this help.

Since we're all throwing ROMs out there, can't forget to mention MikFroyo! He's a very attentive dev who is always open to suggestions for add-ons and always makes time to answer questions. I guess the moral of the story is your options are virtually limitless and the most useful tool is going to be your ability to look before you leap. Knowledge is power...

zookafg3 said:
Well, there is a lot to read. In my case I followed the instructions to the T.
Personally I flash a few roms and they work very good, but the Warm two point tow is my favorite.
Here are some links to follow:
READ FIRST.
REMEMBER TO BACKUP
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=120
Read before start the previous
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=122
My favorite ROM
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
List of Custom ROMS
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Custom_ROMS
Hope this help.
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You, sir, are the man! You made it so easy a caveman could do it!! Lol
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Ok, one quick question before i root
I checked my HBOOT and it showed:
0.97.0000
It's totally different than the ones I was told of, can I still root?
If I can, just tell me, and I'll do it
Thanks

Two pages on a thread that wouldn't exist if you read the very first sticky in this subforum.
In that sticky is also a link for an auto rooter but I guess reading already available information is harder than having people hold your hand and spoon feed you.

lovethyEVO said:
Two pages on a thread that wouldn't exist if you read the very first sticky in this subforum.
In that sticky is also a link for an auto rooter but I guess reading already available information is harder than having people hold your hand and spoon feed you.
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Hey, I was making sure I was doing everything right, I have already seen the links, but they have nothing about my hboot which is 0.97.0000, I want to make sure I root fully and without problems. Thanks for trying to help everyone

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Hey, I was making sure I was doing everything right, I have already seen the links, but they have nothing about my hboot which is 0.97.0000, I want to make sure I root fully and without problems. Thanks for trying to help everyone
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Any HBOOT Version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448 *Updated 12/12/10
If you have a 2.02 HBOOT version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1197 <- People said starting with this post is when things started working. Try this as well.
Another option for NON 2.02 HBOOT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
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If that isn't plain enough english for you then you really need to be spoon fed.

Well, I finally rooted, lol, Thanks, btw.... I used unrevoked........
Thanks again!!!

gokuman56 said:
Well, I finally rooted, lol, Thanks, btw.... I used unrevoked........
Thanks again!!!
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Congratulations man and I guess one lesson to learn from lovethyEVO is to do your homework before posting as some, even though offering nothing useful themselves, will point out exactly how unnecessary your post/thread is! Anyways, enjoy your new toy!

Is there a stable 2.3 gingerbread rom out there?

I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.

You need to calm down buddy!!! If you don't like what you see on xda go somewhere else! There will never be a solid rom they just get better and better!!
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yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty

First off, wow, asking for a stable version of an operating system that's barely out on any phone yet is so terrible that it obviously seems you haven't been doing hours of reading. Skim through the first page of the Q&A section for the evo or any of most recent pages on those "300 pages" of comments and you will find people talking about their problems with these ROMs.
Besides that... ruling out the terrible wiki we have for the evo, I can only offer my own opinion in what gingerbread ROM I believe is best. I suggest the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 RC if you don't keep up with the nightlies. CM7 has just about every feature the evo is hardware capable of. It runs fine for me along with Savaged Zen's kernel. Try out different kernels and ROMs to see what is best for you instead of relying on 300 pages of comments.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's for sure!
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty
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Get latest ROM Manager which has a "ROM" library now. Went from both Gingerbread SalvageMod to CM7RC4 due to Ad-Hoc availability. Lots more listed too.
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OP,
It's fine if you don't want to search. It's fine if you don't want to read through threads that are hundreds of pages long. Both of those things are really your problem, not anybody's here. Also, it's fine if you would prefer a "cleaner" interface or a more organized presentation of ROMS available for the EVO; even I think that's a good idea that someone could really take advantage of on their own personal website with AdSense or something.
But what isn't fine is:
"...you people..."
"...it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!"
"...300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless."
"This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative."
If you came in here to post that and expected not to be insulted, called a troll, or start a flame fest then you, my friend, have some maturing to do.

...most if not all are beta's or rc's (or based off), so i say no!

Nightly 36 of CM7 is working 100% for everything I've tried thus far (4G, wifi tethering, maps, camera) but there's no guarantee there won't be issues later.

First, I can say the information here is some what scattered but the amount of the users on this site would make it nearly impossible for a group of non paid Admins to keep track of. Second, almost all version of GB are as close as they can be to stable, if none of those please you compile your own if it's not that hard. Third, what about Sense? Do you want it or need it, could use some maybe? Finally, IMO the Destroyer V2 is solid, with a lot of options, but requires reading the first post to flash properly.

Im surprised anyone is replying to this arrogant jacka**
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CM7 nightly 36 will have everything working, other than the slight chance you will not be able to get the gps working with the sense fix.
Or try RC8 of the ROM linked in the yet another AOSP Ginger ROM thread in the dev section.
Or if you want something better, learn how to make it yourself (Forum or ROM).

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts,
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You people? You mean those of us who spend time learning how to improve our smartphone experience while also helping others improve theirs?
but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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Many of us have no problem finding the information we seek. We take advantage of the "search this forum" feature as well as a little patience and common sense. Although this forums contain a wealth of information, it is NOT a library.
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
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There are several gingerbread roms available for you to test. CM7, SalvageMod & OMGB to name a few. They all work, but they all have quirks just like the rom that came preinstalled on your EVO.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information.
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Every question is simple to those who have the answers. On the pages where the aforementioned roms can be downloaded are clear descriptions of what works and what doesn't.
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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Seek and ye shall find.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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There are many alternatives for you to choose, however, I must warn you that you will have to read and search for the information you seek therefore, you might find it a bit frustrating.
Now, if you want or need help, there are many of us who will go out of our way to assist you. We enjoy helping others and we don't mind helping you. So please, post your question(s) and leave the berating comments to yourself. Enjoy the rest of your day and, by the way, I was I was helpful to you.
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Been running SalvageMod for a few days now. Not one issue.

i've been runnung destroyer v1 for 3 or 4 weeks, love it, not one issue except i can't get the hdmi out to work, which is fine cause i don't use that feature, other then that its stable enough as my daily, bluetooth, gps, 4g, everything working on my phone

You're right. It's next to impossible, specially if you're new to the forums, to find out certain details about a ROM. The wiki page for the ROMs and kernels are so outdated and rarely, if ever, mention what doesn't work on that ROM/Kernel. Doing searches yield pretty much every thread since most keywords and tags apply to all of them, understandably so. The issue can be remedied by keeping the wiki section up to date.
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.

hermanlf said:
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.
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Was it too much to ask of the OP to simply ask his question? The roms, mods, kernels and themes are FREE for us to use and these forums provide us with a place where we can FREELY enjoy the dedicated work of the devs and improve our overall smartphone user experience. So what, if we have to do a little bit of searching to find what we seek. Do we not search for items at a grocery store or at a retail clothing store? Do many of us not use search engines to find what we seek? The point is this: Instead of taking frustrations out on the people who control/moderate these forums, simply ask the question and let those who are willing to help answer it. If that is too much of a strain then feel free to start a forum of your own and arrange it however you see fit.
As for your comment about garnering hostility, lets review:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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That's like entering someone's house asking for a cup of sugar but then telling the person you're asking how messy his house is.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer
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If is was so simple why was there a need to ask the question in the first place?,
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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These forums are in use 24 hours a day 7 days a week with people posting & replying almost nonstop. The pages will continue to increase and the comments he deem as useless may be important to a great deal of others.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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C'mon. Please explain to me how we should not view his comments as hostile & arrogant. Telling others that they need to do a better job at providing a better way for him to get the information he seeks as if he is a paying customer of some sort is indeed disrespectful, hostile and arrogant. PERIOD! In my opinion, of course.

wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple

CheesyNutz said:
wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple
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'nuf said.......I try to always be respectful when helping others or when asking for help in these forums. On Twitter, my followers will quickly tell you that I tell it like it is, but I try to do so respectfully. Sometimes, I fail...lol...

So I was trying to root via Unrevoked and I got this error:

Edit:
This issue is fixed. Please look at new issue on post #11. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13206953#post13206953
I edited this post with the link instead of making a new thread. Hopefully that will keep SOME of you happy.
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My firmware is:
Software: 3.70.651.1
Baseband: 2.15.00.11.19
However, my Hardware version is:
0004
Is this a problem? Is this also the reason why, when I rooted using the two other others (manual and AutoRoot), I couldn't flash any roms other than CM7??
Inb4 Wrong Section Police.

WELL DOES YUR BOOTLOADER SAY s-off?...........if so.....yur actually rooted and u just need yur recovery......let me know OK?
EDIT.......this has happened to alot of peeps lately./.....boot into HBOOT and check yur status....S-ON or S-OFF.........

What you need to do is boot into the bootloader, select clear storage [factory reset], then run unrevoked again, and you'll be good.
And for future reference, please post questions of this nature in the Q&A section.

reverepats said:
WELL DOES YUR BOOTLOADER SAY s-off?...........if so.....yur actually rooted and u just need yur recovery......let me know OK?
EDIT.......this has happened to alot of peeps lately./.....boot into HBOOT and check yur status....S-ON or S-OFF.........
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Just checked it.
It said off, however there's no SuperUser??
Trying below now.
teh roxxorz said:
What you need to do is boot into the bootloader, select clear storage [factory reset], then run unrevoked again, and you'll be good.
And for future reference, please post questions of this nature in the Q&A section.
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Thanks. Will try this now. Hopefully it's done right because I want to be able to flash Roms other than CM7.
Also, I know it's the wrong section but please believe me, from experience, no one helps you over there. This is at least my 5th thread with a question. 4/5 were in there and got 0 replies.

arozer said:
Also, I know it's the wrong section but please believe me, from experience, no one helps you over there. This is at least my 5th thread with a question. 4/5 were in there and got 0 replies.
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Still no excuse for breaking the rules.

Rooting question
arozer said:
Just checked it.
It said off, however there's no SuperUser??
Trying below now.
Thanks. Will try this now. Hopefully it's done right because I want to be able to flash Roms other than CM7.
Also, I know it's the wrong section but please believe me, from experience, no one helps you over there. This is at least my 5th thread with a question. 4/5 were in there and got 0 replies.
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You need to find a recovery you like in a form of the PC36IMG and put it on the root of the sd card. power down your phone. hold volume down and press the power key and then hit yes to select to flash or install the img.

I understanding where op is coming from. Why post in q&a if nobody replies when you can post in general and actually get answered? Rules are rules and if a mod is in a bad mood, good luck. Everybody had been B-itchy on the forums lately... (Not directed to anybody specific)
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G On The Now Network From Sprint, Using Tapatalk Pro!

Seriously....sorry foe such a late reply.....plus no one is gonna put u in jail...lol......u can do what I uses to do and still do at times......pick a random person and PM them.....more than lineup they'll answer ya.....if not, try another......but like a couple of posts ago.....just grab the PC34IMG and put it on the root of Yur card.....boot into Yuri bootloader and it will ask to perform the update......say yes......then say yes to reboot......after that u for Yuri recovery.......u may still not have superuser........SONT WORRY BOUT THAT.......flash Yuri ROM AND SUPERUSER WILL BE THERE.......PM me if u need to
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sirmx said:
Still no excuse for breaking the rules.
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really? Not surprising so many are leaving XDA...

sirmx said:
Still no excuse for breaking the rules.
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You won the 'Toolbag' remark for the day...congrats. Sheesh...people forget at one point they were noobs as well.

Lol @ the turn out of this thread. Thanks for the replies guys. In all honesty, I don't mean to spam the forums. I'd just like my questions answered that keep getting ignored in the "correct" section.
teh roxxorz said:
What you need to do is boot into the bootloader, select clear storage [factory reset], then run unrevoked again, and you'll be good.
And for future reference, please post questions of this nature in the Q&A section.
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Anyway, this worked like a charm my friend. Thank you sooo much!
Now one other problem, perhaps you can help me?
I am having a problem flashing roms. I have tried ALL THREE METHODS of rooting (Manual, Auto, Unrevoked). What's happening is:
When I flash CM7, everything works fine.
When I flash MIUI or BOS Liquid Royal, I keep getting stuck in bootloop (white evo 4g screen.) NO idea why. I have downloaded the file over 10 times each (in case of bad file, even on 3 diff computers.)
Is it because my Hardware version is 0004??
One side note, when I try to wipe dalvik-cache, I get this error:
Wiping cache...
Formatting CACHE...
Cache wipe complete.
E: Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
(File exists)
You guys can refer to this thread if you'd like to know everything I have tried, or just ask and I'll answer again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039424

I second that sentiment.
Visionikz03 said:
really? Not surprising so many are leaving XDA...
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I come to xda purely for the roms. The support here sucks. Everyone that seems to know anything and especially those that don't seem to come down on those seeking guidance with really toolbag like answers. If someone isn't getting answers in the q&a section then what's the point of even having one. I'm sorry if upsets your precious rules but quite frankly in going to go where I can get help. My suggestion to anyone tired of getting slammed for asking a question or needing help I suggest you turn to android central as they have always been good to me and I see far fewer flamers there. We are all human here people. None of you were born experts, you had to learn from someone. So try lightening up a bit, untwist your panties and get over yourselves otherwise you will indeed lose all your membership base. This is supposed to be a community for growth, support and a place for android users to have fellowship. I apologize if what I have said has offended anyone as this is not directed at all of the xda community, but with that being said if you find yourself with your scivies in a bunch then I am probably referring to you. To those that are supportive I thank you, you are a huge part of what makes android so great.

As far as the error I'm sorry to say I'm not sure about that one......if it were me I would try a FORMAT ALL zip......it does a complete wipe or data and such by u still need to wipe dalvik........sorry I can't answer that one foe ya man.....I'm sure one of these guys will help I with that one.....good luck man......these fellas will her u going for sure.......ohhh........and ignore the TROLLS.......plenty software good guys around here
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arozer said:
I know it's the wrong section but please believe me, from experience, no one helps you over there. This is at least my 5th thread with a question. 4/5 were in there and got 0 replies.
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Yeah when I'm at the DMV and I'm not getting helped fast enough I just cut everybody in line and push people out of the way.
AKA.
Congrats, Your "that guy."

I <3 asshats. GTFU people, I'm sure this question didn't seem that importamd to you, but to this person it was. The DMV reference, yeah ok, its more like going to the library, and you happen to come up to a person and ask a question, and they dont acknowledge you, so you go to another source where you get it answered. Was this wrong, or should you have waited till the first one gave a damn?

Same thing happened to me. In the application there is an app called HTC I believe. I unintalled it and then unrevoked worked fine.

XDA POLICE! COME OUT NOW WITH THE CORRECT SUB FORUM AND YOUR QUESTION ASKED!
Seriously.. to the people who "come here for the ROMS" you know this wasn't a ROM post, ignore it. Man, XDA is srzbzness. Hope OP got his problem solved.

borhaj said:
Same thing happened to me. In the application there is an app called HTC I believe. I unintalled it and then unrevoked worked fine.
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Yeah its called HTC sync and if not uninstalled it will mess up unrevoked

Visionikz03 said:
really? Not surprising so many are leaving XDA...
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Yup really.
I hear your sob story daily about people leaving XDA in droves. I'll believe it when XDA shuts it's doors saying that everyone left because I made a post about following the rules.

androidsupra said:
I <3 asshats. GTFU people, I'm sure this question didn't seem that importamd to you, but to this person it was. The DMV reference, yeah ok, its more like going to the library, and you happen to come up to a person and ask a question, and they dont acknowledge you, so you go to another source where you get it answered. Was this wrong, or should you have waited till the first one gave a damn?
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The problem is, there is this nice little rule on the main development thread about where to post questions.
Take your white knight 'protect the ignorant' speech somewhere else.