Develop Bugs

Is there a stable 2.3 gingerbread rom out there?

I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.

You need to calm down buddy!!! If you don't like what you see on xda go somewhere else! There will never be a solid rom they just get better and better!!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WOW! Someone needs to get some booty

First off, wow, asking for a stable version of an operating system that's barely out on any phone yet is so terrible that it obviously seems you haven't been doing hours of reading. Skim through the first page of the Q&A section for the evo or any of most recent pages on those "300 pages" of comments and you will find people talking about their problems with these ROMs.
Besides that... ruling out the terrible wiki we have for the evo, I can only offer my own opinion in what gingerbread ROM I believe is best. I suggest the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 RC if you don't keep up with the nightlies. CM7 has just about every feature the evo is hardware capable of. It runs fine for me along with Savaged Zen's kernel. Try out different kernels and ROMs to see what is best for you instead of relying on 300 pages of comments.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's for sure!
rvoisine4 said:
WOW! Someone needs to get some booty
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Get latest ROM Manager which has a "ROM" library now. Went from both Gingerbread SalvageMod to CM7RC4 due to Ad-Hoc availability. Lots more listed too.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

OP,
It's fine if you don't want to search. It's fine if you don't want to read through threads that are hundreds of pages long. Both of those things are really your problem, not anybody's here. Also, it's fine if you would prefer a "cleaner" interface or a more organized presentation of ROMS available for the EVO; even I think that's a good idea that someone could really take advantage of on their own personal website with AdSense or something.
But what isn't fine is:
"...you people..."
"...it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!"
"...300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless."
"This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative."
If you came in here to post that and expected not to be insulted, called a troll, or start a flame fest then you, my friend, have some maturing to do.

...most if not all are beta's or rc's (or based off), so i say no!

Nightly 36 of CM7 is working 100% for everything I've tried thus far (4G, wifi tethering, maps, camera) but there's no guarantee there won't be issues later.

First, I can say the information here is some what scattered but the amount of the users on this site would make it nearly impossible for a group of non paid Admins to keep track of. Second, almost all version of GB are as close as they can be to stable, if none of those please you compile your own if it's not that hard. Third, what about Sense? Do you want it or need it, could use some maybe? Finally, IMO the Destroyer V2 is solid, with a lot of options, but requires reading the first post to flash properly.

Im surprised anyone is replying to this arrogant jacka**
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
CM7 nightly 36 will have everything working, other than the slight chance you will not be able to get the gps working with the sense fix.
Or try RC8 of the ROM linked in the yet another AOSP Ginger ROM thread in the dev section.
Or if you want something better, learn how to make it yourself (Forum or ROM).

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You people? You mean those of us who spend time learning how to improve our smartphone experience while also helping others improve theirs?
but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many of us have no problem finding the information we seek. We take advantage of the "search this forum" feature as well as a little patience and common sense. Although this forums contain a wealth of information, it is NOT a library.
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are several gingerbread roms available for you to test. CM7, SalvageMod & OMGB to name a few. They all work, but they all have quirks just like the rom that came preinstalled on your EVO.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every question is simple to those who have the answers. On the pages where the aforementioned roms can be downloaded are clear descriptions of what works and what doesn't.
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seek and ye shall find.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are many alternatives for you to choose, however, I must warn you that you will have to read and search for the information you seek therefore, you might find it a bit frustrating.
Now, if you want or need help, there are many of us who will go out of our way to assist you. We enjoy helping others and we don't mind helping you. So please, post your question(s) and leave the berating comments to yourself. Enjoy the rest of your day and, by the way, I was I was helpful to you.
Posting & replying via the XDA Premium app

Been running SalvageMod for a few days now. Not one issue.

i've been runnung destroyer v1 for 3 or 4 weeks, love it, not one issue except i can't get the hdmi out to work, which is fine cause i don't use that feature, other then that its stable enough as my daily, bluetooth, gps, 4g, everything working on my phone

You're right. It's next to impossible, specially if you're new to the forums, to find out certain details about a ROM. The wiki page for the ROMs and kernels are so outdated and rarely, if ever, mention what doesn't work on that ROM/Kernel. Doing searches yield pretty much every thread since most keywords and tags apply to all of them, understandably so. The issue can be remedied by keeping the wiki section up to date.
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.

hermanlf said:
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Was it too much to ask of the OP to simply ask his question? The roms, mods, kernels and themes are FREE for us to use and these forums provide us with a place where we can FREELY enjoy the dedicated work of the devs and improve our overall smartphone user experience. So what, if we have to do a little bit of searching to find what we seek. Do we not search for items at a grocery store or at a retail clothing store? Do many of us not use search engines to find what we seek? The point is this: Instead of taking frustrations out on the people who control/moderate these forums, simply ask the question and let those who are willing to help answer it. If that is too much of a strain then feel free to start a forum of your own and arrange it however you see fit.
As for your comment about garnering hostility, lets review:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's like entering someone's house asking for a cup of sugar but then telling the person you're asking how messy his house is.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If is was so simple why was there a need to ask the question in the first place?,
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These forums are in use 24 hours a day 7 days a week with people posting & replying almost nonstop. The pages will continue to increase and the comments he deem as useless may be important to a great deal of others.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
C'mon. Please explain to me how we should not view his comments as hostile & arrogant. Telling others that they need to do a better job at providing a better way for him to get the information he seeks as if he is a paying customer of some sort is indeed disrespectful, hostile and arrogant. PERIOD! In my opinion, of course.

wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple

CheesyNutz said:
wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
'nuf said.......I try to always be respectful when helping others or when asking for help in these forums. On Twitter, my followers will quickly tell you that I tell it like it is, but I try to do so respectfully. Sometimes, I fail...lol...

[Q] Best Rom for desire

I am getting a bit tired of the browser in the stock 2.2, my batterylife is almost non-existing, and I always have less than 10 mb space left of internal memory.
If I had the money, and galaxy nexus wasn't so ugly I would have changed my phone a long time ago.
So instead I am trying to figure out which Rom is the best for my carrier-free Desire.
I like HTC-sense, (yeah I know it's a battery hog), I won't give up essentials like GPS and camera, and if it could have the possibility of http proxy over WiFi, then I could use the WiFi at my school.
Of cause it has to run smoothly, so newer android versions might not be suitable.
Any suggestions to what might fit my needs?
[English is not my strong suit, so bare with me]

Have u rooted your phone and get S-off'd? If yes then follow me.
If u want to try out a Sense 3.0 ROM, choose Aurora v6.0. Its super fast and much more battery efficient with the included kernel.
If u want sense 3.5 ROM, try Runnymede AIO v6.5. Its also nice and fast. Also the rcmix tweaks do some nice treaks.
If u want something exceptional (with a sense experience and a bit of ICS taste), try Cool Ice Cream Sense. Its also super fast and a great ROM for day to day use.
These are all sense ROMs. If u prefer AOSP one's, the scenario will change drastically.

*sigh* Best brain for human?

I personally think that RSK has the best desire ROM. Its based on runnymede, but when I used runny mede I found it to be quite laggy. Granted I havent tried many ROMs but most people on the RSK thread who claim to have done so pretty much swear by this ROM.
Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431908
---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 PM ----------
plus, if you are having issues with your browser, you can just download another one. I personally love dolphin HD

Cool Ice is the fastest sense rom for the desire. And IMHO the best one.

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

erklat said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this is amazing another quality reply . what pants should i wear

dan281082 said:
this is amazing another quality reply . what pants should i wear
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Geee, I can't say.
Maybe these, these, these, these or these?
This one qualifies too. Though it is in domain of abstract thinking for most of the community here. To comprehend that one has to observe that the best and the smoothest is the one they are using at the time of posting, and none other.

twisted_forever said:
Have u rooted your phone and get S-off'd? If yes then follow me.
If u want to try out a Sense 3.0 ROM, choose Aurora v6.0. Its super fast and much more battery efficient with the included kernel.
If u want sense 3.5 ROM, try Runnymede AIO v6.5. Its also nice and fast. Also the rcmix tweaks do some nice treaks.
If u want something exceptional (with a sense experience and a bit of ICS taste), try Cool Ice Cream Sense. Its also super fast and a great ROM for day to day use.
These are all sense ROMs. If u prefer AOSP one's, the scenario will change drastically.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would agree with this list also. Not sure about Aurora V6 - was not as good as cools version or 007 but that's my opinion. For a 2.1+3.0 I would try Alex-V's ROM. Only trial and error will you know what is right for you.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Erklat and others who just hate threads like this and yet come to contribute to them in a non-helpful manner:
Why don't you just ignore these threads if you hate them so much????
Personally, if I just started with flashing on my Desire, I would LOVE to see what users who have tried most of the roms, think which rom is the best.
I am one of the long time "flashers" and it took a loooong time to come to a rom that feels just great.
Why would everybody have to go through all this?
My thoughts:
1) AOSP roms IMHO plain suck. You will NEVER be able to customize them the way HTC does it with sense, so why even bother? The ones who still want to bother will not ask such questions here. Yes they could be a bit faster but that's because these roms have nothing. You have to install everything and then your phone looks just like windows mobile 6. Every single thing looks and feels different...
2) Sense 3.x roms have weak multitasking and become laggy when you actually use the phone. Yes, at first one thinks they are fast, because sliding home screens and other rosy stuff seems fast. But then you try to sync with dropbox or something and someone calls you and it takes 10 seconds or more to answer the phone etc etc....
3) For our Desire Sense 1.9 roms are currently the best. But even with those, you have to choose which ones are the fastest/most stable.
After a looong time of trying various roms, my opinion is that Cool Ice is the cream of the Desire roms (the other two roms in my signature are a very close second place) It's VERY fast, it's as stable as it gets and it feels responsive even after 2 weeks of installing apps and power use.
Of course this it my personal opinion, but it's a valuable one. I get a LOT of private messages where people are thanking me for advice and are very happy.
So what exactly IS your problem with those kind of threads??? And why on earth do you keep posting in them???

On my Desire i've loaded ICS BCM 2.0U1
It works great ans smoothly

I've flitted between cyanogenmod 7, oxygen and playing with ics beta (0.4.1.5). Best bet is to try them and see which suits.
I was using oxygen because it doesn't have things I don't need. Trying ics beta because I like it, when it doesn't keep rebooting, which it hasn't for a day
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Sklblue said:
. Best bet is to try them and see which suits.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this is so true, try the one that fits u best, there's so many posts saying which rom is best, there aint one, its personal preference, yes its good to see what other people use, but there's a thread on that already, i could tell joe blogs the rom i use is the best, but it might not be for joe blogs
in my opinion u have to try them see what u like, maybe search in the thread of a rom u like see what people say, those are the people that use it.
it makes no diff what rom me or anybody likes its personal choice, use the search button find out for urself

in1400 said:
On my Desire i've loaded ICS BCM 2.0U1
It works great ans smoothly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree =)

dan281082 said:
this is so true, try the one that fits u best, there's so many posts saying which rom is best, there aint one, its personal preference, yes its good to see what other people use, but there's a thread on that already, i could tell joe blogs the rom i use is the best, but it might not be for joe blogs
in my opinion u have to try them see what u like, maybe search in the thread of a rom u like see what people say, those are the people that use it.
it makes no diff what rom me or anybody likes its personal choice, use the search button find out for urself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't agree.
One thing is if you want to experiment and toy with all the roms. The other thing is if you want to actually use your phone and need stability and responsiveness that is at least as good as the stock rom, which you came from.
If you want the latter, there are only a few roms available that suit the criteria (responsiveness + stability). And this is not a "personal" opinion, it's an objective one. I try to point such roms out.
If you think some other rom is better, do tell. I will nandroid my current rom and give it a spin (and probably go back to my current one in mere 30 minutes of "testing").

sudkcoce said:
I don't agree.
One thing is if you want to experiment and toy with all the roms. The other thing is if you want to actually use your phone and need stability and responsiveness that is at least as good as the stock rom, which you came from.
If you want the latter, there are only a few roms available that suit the criteria (responsiveness + stability). And this is not a "personal" opinion, it's an objective one. I try to point such roms out.
If you think some other rom is better, do tell. I will nandroid my current rom and give it a spin (and probably go back to my current one in mere 30 minutes of "testing").
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u need to experiment and test to find one that u like correct?

dan281082 said:
u need to experiment and test to find one that u like correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you like to experiment and live with a possibly buggy rom most of the time, then yes.
If you just do not want to waste time experimenting, then no.
And the poster of this question falls definitely into the latter category. So I try to help them.
I think I've said it all, so for me, this debate is over.

sudkcoce said:
So what exactly IS your problem with those kind of threads??? And why on earth do you keep posting in them???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you read my previous post with understanding, then you'll maybe catch a grasp of it. I post merely out of phun lately. I don't entertain myself with trying to spoon feed idiots a few times a day to gain a few cheap thanks. Am I aware that this place degraded to the end of the universe and further in the last year? Yes I am and I don't hope to change that as long as number of loonies who opened 120 threads grow. But that won't stop me to have fun while I'm at it.
EDIT: Very interesting.

sudkcoce said:
If you like to experiment and live with a possibly buggy rom most of the time, then yes.
If you just do not want to waste time experimenting, then no.
And the poster of this question falls definitely into the latter category. So I try to help them.
I think I've said it all, so for me, this debate is over.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with this post and everything you said. I will try also to help.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Nice thread... yawn...

[README] New? Before flashing any ICS-based rom, READ THIS

Welcome to..
Android 4.0
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!
Before you consider it though, READ this. Read it closely.
The goal of this thread isn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue...this topic didn't really have to be posted.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. I hope this information helps you determine whether or not the ICS leak is good for you.
There are common issues among all ICS-leak based ROMs. I hope this helps a lot of you since I've seen the same questions in a lot of ROM threads, over and over.
Mods if you can sticky, +1!
#0: A LITTLE BACKGROUND
================================================
When I say "ICS-leak based ROMs", I am saying that the current state of ICS roms on the T989 is that they are based on the ICS leak for our AT&T cousin, the Skyrocket. Thus there are still issues.
That being said...flash Skyrocket roms at your own risk.
Common issues in ALL leak-based roms:
(* Does not neccesarily apply to Raver's AOSP build, it is FUNDAMENTALLY different so read his topic and follow his posts *)
Call echo for about 50-75% of us. A temporary solution is to play around with your case(if you have one on your phone) OR turn off Noise Reduction while in a call
There is no Wi-Fi calling
Shutdown doesn't work for some people. THIS IS WHY YOU MUST SUPERWIPE!! (See #3)
Some video streaming problems
Some video recording problems (depends on ROM)
Some AT&T specific modifications that can give you problems. I.E. there is no 2G/4G toggle switch
Point is: THEY'RE NOT PERFECT YET
#1!
================================================
BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
If you don't know what ClockworkMod is and how to access the Recovery menu,
STOP here. Look around, read some tutorials, and immerse yourself in some basic Android knowledge.
This can mean the difference between frying a $250+ device and running a cool ROM on it. Do what you do wisely.
Keep your battery charged and make backups.
#2!
================================================
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
This is the same as using the Backup and Restore menu in CWM. You have been warned. The devs aren't responsible for lost data.
#3!
================================================
BEFORE FLASHING ICS ROMS
Super super important:
Run this script via CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955
THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE...and align the partitions properly for ICS
Run it again. Do it twice to be safe!
Then flash your ROM.
#4!
================================================
PATCH YOUR ACCELEROMETER
Without this, your phone will not AutoRotate, games and many media apps will give you headaches, and your CAMERA WILL BE BROKEN.
Most of the ROMs here should have this patch built in. If you're a dev and haven't added it in yet, please do so !!
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592170
#5
================================================
WHEN LOOKING AT THE DEVELPMENT TOPIC
Use the topic search function before you post a question.
I'm not a topic police officer. I don't really care what people post in my own topics as long as its not bickering. But asking questions when they've already been asked does take up space and makes the topic harder to sift through so please be courteous to the devs Do yourself and all of us a favor. Look through it first! This is a cycle...if people look through the topics before posting, their question will be most likely answered and then they will not need to post. The topic gets less cluttered and the next person who has a question has less pages to look through
And different OP's have different requests for their topics. Please be courteous.
THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION
I can stand with Raver in saying this. As a matter of fact, I plan on collaborating with him.
The point is:
XDA isn't about competition. It's about innovation. So please don't say X ROM is better than Y ROM, everyone has their own taste.
TO REPORT BUGS
Follow the instructions in the ROM dev's OP.
I'm actually going to make a Mantis bug tracker for our ICS ROMs. Devs and themers, let me know if you're interested via PM.
GOING BACK TO GINGERBREAD?
Although the ICS roms are fairly stable at this point, some of you may wish to go back to Gingerbread for whatever reason. Before flashing back to GB: REPEAT STEP 3 ABOVE, DO THE SUPERWIPE!

must read if your new to ics
This should be sticky or like placed in the top 5 spots or something where people are sure to read it.
Oh ya if you missed it
DARKSIDE WIPE MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

Just asked a mod to sticky it

yaldak said:
Just asked a mod to sticky it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BTW that is some amazing you pulled on the rotation. Straight boss
Your thanks/post ratio says it all

I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

JaZart said:
I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true. Which is why its a caution / at your risk thing

sound advice in this sticky. superwipe really gets the job done.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

To add and not that it maybe required, after running super wipe a few times I have ran samsung_ultimate_kernel_cleaning_script_by_lippol94 which has given me almost perfect results with any ICS flash I have done.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's my take on this. What's the first thing someone is going to be looking for when going to their phones section on xda? "Development" right? Now thnknof how many people, more specifically those with the xda app, go to "stickies" for information first?. My guess is not the majority. This thread is also clearly labeled as to what it is and is formatted so anyone can relate and understand. Therefore while I see that you think its the same I vouch it stays. Until we get our own version of ics we and the more bugs are fixed or found, this sticky would prove useful. It also keeps random questions or repeat questions out of from threads.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The goal wasn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue and I'm not a topic cop...IDC what people post but to make it easier for everyone in general its nice to have a little primer.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. You'll be surprised.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. You guys and your wipe 3 times.. lmao..
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

I think it's great right here. Especially for those who are new, don't know how to search, are mentally slow on finding stuff. It's right here in your face when you walk into the Dev section. Don't close this. Just because some people know enough, doesn't mean others do. I know, but there's still a lot of people who don't.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming

The post was appreciated, not for me but I know for some who are new as replied above. Many forget that there are people out there that are not as perfect as they are. Remember, you once were as newb as those who are (new) here. Treat others as you would wanted to be treated.
Although ICS is nice and I have had great results it's just so early in dev stages I must go back to the darkside.

To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using XDA

}{Alienz}{ said:
To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you can flash Skyrocket roms. I have flashed several of the ICS leak roms, and have not lost data connection. I just wipe and flash. No issues for me.. other than having to de-att it.
If you loose data then try a superwipe?
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

Sorry for the double post..

Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started

yaldak said:
Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think alot of the issues people have which are common across many ICS leak based roms but that only a percent of users get are purely due to the way the rom was flashed. Clearly you dont need to do all the wipes but if you dont and you get one of these bad rom flashing bugs then dont complain to the dev.

PJcastaldo said:
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Curiously, that "local genious" is the very same guy that started this thread!! So at least for that reason (gratitude) you should just let it be...you dont need it? Fine, we heard you...no problem, but im sure someone will benefit from it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

What is going on....

Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks

I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
Sent From E4GT CoNsTriCtEd bY B0A
"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."

einsteins said:
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel

daryelv said:
Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Calk is leaving. Remember, work phone/changing jobs. lol

There are a lot of good, active ROMs out there. Spend time in the Dev section and read through the comments, you'll be able to pick up what's still active very easily.

Things will also pick up when ICS ota comes and source drops.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

There's always a dip before an update. I speak from experience
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

D1rk said:
I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
Sent From E4GT CoNsTriCtEd bY B0A
"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
please dont misunderstand me....I fully respect the Devs have a life...I was mainly talking about Threads dissapearing or being locked. If I dev needs time that is fine as you still have the thread to ask questions or reseach issues. Once the thread goes away or is closed you are limited in your options.
Sorry if I was misunderstood...

If I deleted a thread it was because it needed to be deleted, for reasons that may not be known to the common member. There's a lot that goes on behind the scene, its not just cut and dry.
---Jay--- From the AOKP'd Nexus

Blazer has only gotten so far since ICS started leaking, I mean your coming in pretty late in the phones life. I always liked Calk's rom but since CM9 got so far so quick I am sticking with that for the life of the phone. AOKP will pick up eventually.

i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.

einsteins said:
Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Esoteric68 said:
I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now that^^^^ answer to one above ^^^ was right on point. You are not a true android enthusiasts if you cant see the difference between these roms. Honestly I go into the Evo forum since I was a big part of that forum for a year and all I see is the same rom split in 12 different pieces. In this forum there happens to be some pretty great developers and all working on different stuff. The roms you happened to pick were by the same guy. So if his life has sent him in a different direction and he can not keep putting out quality work then either you pick it up for him or choose a different rom.
Sorry man not trying to be harsh but I just dont believe in the nice guy crap. It is what it is. Loved the Evo but in the beginning over there it was the same as it was over here. Not sure if you remember but there were like 2 roms out for a while and the steps to root were crazy(like 40 steps). My friend jump on CM9 lay back and enjoy the ride or hey you can always go back to an Evo3d

i didnt come from any other phone except the intercept(crap). and i think that CM9 has the most activity of the roms, only bcuz there are soo many phones that have been ported. and Esoteric68 is right the EVO has had way more time to come out with roms. and our phone is still fairly new compared to the EVO series. but you gotta make do with what you have, once source comes out for ICS for our phone, we'll have more roms and more things going on.

graffix31 said:
i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately I think its more than that... guys go read the last few pages here and this is the reason why you loose developers. Some of you have got to learn to how to relax especially if you are leeching and can not or have not contributed yourselves.

Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

kpakpo89 said:
Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes its because so many users think they are the chosen 1. I mean xda is a hell of a place if you know how to use it. I have learned to do so much just by searching these threads with any issue I have. I have themed my own stuff made changes to the system files and basically tweaked the hell out of my phone just by searching the web. My attitude is I am damn sure not the first person to ask whatever question I have to ask and knowledge is the key(hmm heard that somewhere)
With people demanding stuff and claiming stuff is broken when they are the only ones with the issue and then addressing it rudely in a thread does not make a developer WANT to do anything for you. I could go on for a while on the BS I have seen.
We need to take what these developers have given us and be grateful as well as learn how to fix some of this stuff ourselves. If you can not help yourself then either ask nicely or #gositdownsomewhere
*rant over* Playya Out!

Noooooooooo I think its because of the trollz...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Dam trollz are everywhere...
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

I am using ParanoidAndroid atm and it seems awesome! I hope some avenue opens so that it can stay current.

}=>OFFICIAL AT&T OT<={ I747 The league of SPAM

All Forum Rules Apply, and Thank You
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium

Great idea. I have a question: What happened to Mr. Highway?
Sent from my SGH-I747M using XDA Premium HD app

The Archangel said:
I'm still here, just changed my name.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to hear you are still around dude, this forum can't afford to lose mod's like you.
On another note, I am really hoping ppl start to calm down in the development forums. I have never witnessed anything like this on XDA before. Constant sniping is a pure waste of everybody's time and does nothing for development or enjoyment of this site. I would be interested to hear if anyone has some "positive" ideas on how to improve the situation?

The Archangel said:
thanks
all of the mods here for the S3 are working on something special
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I look forward to seeing the finished product. Thanks.

GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions

andrewnelson23 said:
GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. people who are rude and ignorant.
2. Use the no trip root method and everything should be fine. Tripping a flash counter is a way for att/samsung to know that you messed with your phone, it can be a problem for warranty returns, but there is an app called triangle away that should reset this. I havent tried it so I personaly cannot confirm.
3. there was a little bit of argument on which recovery was better when there was the missing imei problem, now that it is solved it doesn't really matter (all personal preference). But please don't forget to do a NV backup or at least a backup of your Imei no.
and by the way welcome to xda it is a great place for information and if you do searches first and post in the propper section the people here are great.

Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?

NightSkylar said:
Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.

kschumake83 said:
One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I must agree with you there, the ringtone selection wasn't what I had hoped for. Luckily they're apps which help resolve this issue

David Dee said:
Perfect place to post, good to see someone else joining myself and Archangel in this chat thread. Here are my answers to your questions:
1. Troll - Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Flaming - Hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity.
2. If you trip the flash counter and take your phone in for warranty work, Samsung will know you have flashed unsigned firmware on your phone and may deny your warranty claim. There is a working method in place to reset your trip counter back to zero but it costs a few bucks. If you root and install a custom recovery (cwm or twrp) using this method, then flash all roms using that recovery, you will not trip the counter.
3. This is up for debate, so here are the facts. CWM is the recommended recovery for most custom roms and many developers will not provide support if you flash using another recovery. On the other side of the coin, a number of people have lost their imei flashing roms (phone cannot connect to cellular network), and a theory exists that cwm may be the culprit as no one using any other recovery has experienced this loss. I personally use twrp, a touch based recovery alternative to cwm, works well and gives me comfort on the imei issue.
One more item: If you are planning to flash custom roms, make sure to backup your imei using this method. Restoring these backups has been proven to fix the issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.

andrewnelson23 said:
Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, backups are incompatible between twrp and cwm. I have done all of my flashing with twrp, problem free.
Sent from my SGH-I747M using XDA Premium HD app

Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.

whiplash353 said:
Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can only really see the pentile pattern if you actively look for it. It was far worse on my old Captivate because the resolution was much lower; on the S3... i haven't noticed it casually, but if I get up real close and examine the diff between red/green/blue diagonal lines, I can still see the crosshatch diff in red and blue (green is solid).
Much ado over nothing. Samsung said they returned to pentile for the S3 (vs nonpentile in the S2) because the screen lasts longer. I'm fine with that.
EDIT: And because this is OFF-TOPIC, let me just add........ Marklar marklar marklar?! Marklar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

defnow said:
Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I watched a simulation video of its landing sequence, and it blew my mind.
Herp derp SGS3 Tapatalk 2

that stuff is crazy!!! Those guys are all SO smart. wonder if any of them hang out on the forums.

Where do you guys get authoritative information about Android flashing/modding/development? Like, where does a developer go?
I've read about 10 explanations of deodexing and, while I totally get the "concept," I have lots of little questions questions (are new apps also de-odexed? how can only the first boot slow? someone said they d/l'd regular files and de-odexed himself?!). All the guides explain it simplistically. Where can I find the nitty-gritty and technical explanations of these things? Some super-guide? I don't mind reading 100 pages, as long as it's thorough and authoritative.
I used to mod Sony Ericssons and, while a little difficult, there was one flashing tool, maybe 5 skins for your media player, three or four I-know-what-I'm-doing developers, and we "rooted" using a brute-force method that took sometimes 15 hours. And there was no nitty gritty, really, because, if you could edit an XML file, you were close to the end of our knowledge, haha.

Off topic
What's be happening, Romney's new VP, Mars pics..........rooted my Galaxy SIII but still running stock rom as I like it. :laugh:

10-4, luv my Galaxy!
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

Today the forums that I mark as read go back to unread. Anyone else seeing this? I also noticed that the Accessories forum under all variants always appears as read while it still has unread threads, but I assume this is because it's shared forum for all the variants... right?