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Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect, Pocket MSN is better

If any of you of you guys are like me you've been waiting for BlackBerry connect to work for the blueangel forever. I have downloaded the software and fiddled with it a million times, the fact of the matter is that it only works for Tmobile UK right now. The rest of us are screwed. But there is an alternative, microsoft has recently release pocket MSN, it works exactly like the blackberry web client, except that after the initial 19.99 fee it is completely FREE!!!!!!. Unlike other push email alternatives where although you might get a few months grace period they are pay services. Pocket MSN pushes your hotmail account directly to your phone, and no text messaging BS like activesync AUTD. its actual push email. You can either foward your email to hotmail, or have your hotmail account search you pop mail boxes. And plus since microsft makes the phones operating system and has access to the source codes, Pocket MSN works seamlessly with the phone. Now that I finish telling the benefits, the downsides is the fact that there is no alert sound when an email comes in, or at least I dont know how to set it up. Another downside is the fact the there is no way for it to push you coporate email, unless you foward your coporate email to hotmail, which is a security risk. Another downside is having to create a hotmail account, but then again you have to create a blackberry account when using blackberry web client. The last downside the I can think of is the 19.99 freaking fee!!!, I guess a one time payment is better the monthly payments that most companies charge. Tell me what you guys think, I think its worth though

^-- thanks for the infomation. This would be an asset so long as it isn't a spamware of some kind and as long as I don't get any spams from MSN.
Is there a email server script that would do the same thing if one owns there own unix server? I will research on this, but just in case someone out there knows the answer.

So what your telling me is that:
* Pocket MSN works with my companies Corporate eMail services
* Pocket MSN works with my companies iPager (Interactive Pager) service
* that my companies multi thousand dollar BES infrastructure can utilize Pocket MSN
* That As a message is delivered to the system you get a notification
* That as a message is delivered to a user I get a notification
* As the user reads the message I get a notification
* As the user deletes the message I get a notification
* That it is instant and ready for corporate usage
* That I can attach an intranet link (not InterNET) and the receiving party can then access that link over the PocketMSN network
Or are you telling me that you nor your company do not highly depend on these features..... because ours (Large telecom company) lives, breathes, and dies by these little devices.
Thanks for your advice on PocketMSN, however I WANT and Need Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC, regardless if you are happy with PocketMSN or not.
I hope all that use and depend on the blackberry devices will continue to borrow, test, and hack the software until one of us gets it working. That's what this board is for.
Raptor

Hmm, I don't think Pocket MSN is implying on changing the face of such technology. Some of us home users don't have the capital to run a service such as yours, nor do we even use your network. I am looking for a free altrenative that works correctly with no string attached. The key word is "alternatrive", NOT replacement.

Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.

Raptor said:
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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I wasn't aware PocketMSN was pushware. Refuse to pay £20 for the software when it will be free with magneto devices.
Patience on BB - I have been using the latest version, and all indications are that it's mostly good.... as far as BB ever goes on a non-RIM device....
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Might not be BES but still great software
Hey Raptor, yeah ok I understand that if your going to use blackberry to the fullest extent, then pocket MSN or any alternative does not nearly match up. But alot of us only use the most fundamental features of blackberry email, and for that this software seems to be more then enough, as a matter of fact, for those of us who only use blackberry web client, I find Pocket MSN is just as good if not better, paying 20 bucks for the software really sucked especially for a cheap ass like me. But I am not paying any extra monthly fee. Which is good. So this software might not be suitable for your coporate "MEGA" company. But for blackberry Web Client users this software is a great substitute maybe a replacement, I am not sure why microsoft did not offer this for free. Usually when microsoft tries to bully other companies to the ground (Lotus 123, Netscape, Real Audio) they give it away.

Not as cheap as me... Whenever I need to check my Hotmail, I go to http://mobile.msn.com/pocketpc/ and read my Hotmail for free...
Hope the Pocket MSN pushed email feature comes with message notification. If not, it's no better than going to the link above...

For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!

For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!

Questions About Pocket MSN
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David

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For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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Does it impact battery life, yes i guess it does. Because technically your leaving your gprs data connection on all the time. But if you compare it to checking your email every ten minutes then its way better. AS for audible alerts i have not been able to figure that out as of yet. And yes i am positive that there are no text messages, it is purely data based

To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.

Thanks for the quick reply. One more question. Do you know whether you can specify a "reply to" address for replying to messages recieved on your device via Hotmail? The reason that I ask is that if I go this route, I will set up a Hotmail account and have it pull my mail from my normal email accounts via POP/IMAP, but when I reply by phone, I don't want the Hotmail address showing. I know that I can do this with the standard Pocket Outlook mailbox and with the autd/exchange solution.
If this works for me, I guess the crappy thing is that it will cost me about 40 bucks. 19 fo Pocket MSN, and then another 19 yearly for Hotmail Plus since, as far as I can tell, Microsoft now makes you get a Plus account if you want to be able to have your Hotmail account pull from POP/IMAP. Kind of crappy, if you ask me. Yahoo!'s free service includes POP/IMAP.
David

Couldn't you just set up a forward from your pop3 account to hotmail?

Yes, forwarding will work. But then if I hit "reply" to the message, it will send the reply to my POP account rather than the actual sender -- at least, that's what I assume will happen.

To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
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Obviously you do not understand.... with better communications programs we are much closer to curing caner and a host of other diseases....

A little help

Hi guys, and great forum.
At the outset mods should feel free to push this is the appropriate forum.
I seem to have fallen in love with the xda orbit/P3300. I run 2 websites and am more and more often away from home these days that my trusty nokia N73 just aint cutting it for web access.
So I have looked about at something more mobile web access tailored and bumped into this. My questions to help me:
I'm currently with Vodafone, not due an upgrade til November. I could buy the phone sim free, unlocked. Having searched the forum I see that it should work when the Voda settings (wap, mms) are entered. Is this correct?
I hear that some folk have been caught out with hefty data charges because the phone always uses gprs constantly. Again, is this right?
This probably isn't suitable for this forum, but if data charges could be an issue, would it be better to go with someone like T-mobile that give unlimited access?
Finally, having read the manual, i'm a little confused with the messaging email set up. Are texts sent immediately when you tap send? Are mms saved until you next go "online" with wap? When i want to pick up emails, can i do as i do now, connect remotely via wap to my BT server and pick up on demand, or will it always automatically do that on connecting to wap.
My apologies for the questions, and hope one of you good folk can help me out.
Thanking you in advance
Mike

Hi MikI,
It doesn't matter what device you use, as long you have access to the wap and mms gatewats, so with you vodaphone sim you should be able to.
Some software once installed (weather apps, etc) can be configured to automatically download new updates and thus incur charges without you knowing it. The phone itself has nothing to do with that.
It's really up to you with what data plan suits you, if you constantly use gprs, then you should know that getting a flatrate plan is the best thing to do, again it depends on your usage.
Yes SMS messages are immediately sent when you tap send. For MMS you can configure it to either connect automatically and send your message immediately once you tap send or to wait once you go online and then send it.
Hope that helps, just my 2 cents.
Cheers.

If your main motivation is mobile web, I would look into getting a UMTS phone..GPRS might not do the trick for your needs.

Hello gang, and thanks for your replies - they are really helpful.
Web access is one of my motivations, but the main ones I have is being able to pick up my emails from the ISP (and going on web if they emails say I have to), and the organiser functions.
Web access is really restricted to things like google searches for numbers etc, if i had to do some serious web browsing it would only be to my sites and I would hope few and far in between.
Now the choice between sim free, or a new contract
Thanks all again, and if anyone can suggest anything i may not be considering or missing about this handset I'd be most grateful.

what programs are u using on ur dash

Essential Software
Well, I am sure this is a common question with any new phone. I have been trying to transfer some of the applications such as Pocket Plus, MS Streets, etc. from my sister's PPC and I have been unable to do so due to incompatibility. What software do you guys recommend that is compatible for the Dash?
I would like an e-mail software that works over Wi-Fi rather than T-Zones. I do not have the data service from T-Mobile but am constantly covered by Wi-Fi from my school.
In addition, I would like something that would keep my finances in check. I had a software called SplashMoney for the Palm that would synchronize with my bank account everytime I AutoSynched so that my account would automatically be updated. Anything like that for the Dash?
Finally, I am wondering if there is a MS Streets program for the Dash? As a new resident of Boston, I am constantly getting lost in this web of streets. Something to guide me from A to B would be essential.
Thanks again guys...

Using the e-mail on the dash will use the WiFi if you have a WiFi connection. Make sure your e-mail is setup to connect using "The Internet" and it will use WiFi and if you don't it will use T-Zones.
However I would wait for someone else to confirm what I'm saying just to be safe.

Good to hear. Do you know exactly how to set that up?

What e-mail domain are you wanting to setup?

What do you mean by domain? I am using my school's e-mail service with the following information.
pop.ufl.edu
smtp.ufl.edu

.PoNeH said:
Do you know exactly how to set that up?
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Use this to help you setup your account.

Hmm in that case, you may browse around on your schools website and look for directions on how to setup pop3 e-mail programs with your schools e-mail service.

There are a lot of online resources for you to look into, maybe start with http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/default.mspx -- take a look at sites like http://www.handango.com to get an idea of the software available. Sounds like you're used to homework, you have some more now

Wow guys, thanks. The e-mail is working perfectly. I wish it had the ability of setting up 2 outgoing servers within the same account so that you could just choose what account you'd like to send from, like Outlook on the computer. But having 2 separate accounts isn't too bad.
Thanks again guys.

Voice Recorder
I see a Voice Notes program on the Dash, which will record both sides of a conversation for 60 seconds during a phone call.
However, when you try the Voice Recorder application located in the Accessories folder, it doesn't allow you to record during a phone call. The record option is simply unresponsive. But, as soon as the call ends (even when you are still in the app), you're allowed to record.
My question -- if someone knowledgable about these things would be so gracious enough to answer -- is this: Could there be a registry entry that allows you to record during conversations?
Just poking around I found a binary for: HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/Recorder
I have no idea what it's for. Maybe this can't be done? Thanks in advance.
(p.s. I know there are legal implications about this in certain states, etc. with notifying the other party. But sometimes when you're on the phone in a place you can't take notes and you're receiving directions, important info, phone numbers, etc. it would be so nice to simply say "hold on a sec, i wan't to record this.")

Voice Notes as the name implies is for taking voice notes, not for recording a conversation.
Vocal data going through the modem is not handled by this application.

That would actually be a good idea. Having directions recorded would be a major life saver. I'm sure someone will be able to tweak around it.

Just use this instead: http://1800message.com/SPWM5CallRec.cab

website for free downloads for dash
does anybody know a good website where i can download free programs for the days? thanks in advance
omar

www.dashsmartzone.com.
Thats actually how I found this board.

this will work on ur phone...
www.surrealnetworks.com/mpx

Here is a direct link.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/MDAapps.htm

thanks guys, just btw, that last link is for the mda, not the dash

omaralt said:
thanks guys, just btw, that last link is for the mda, not the dash
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It says MDA but all of the apps on the page are for Smartphone Edition. Trust me it's a favorite on my dash.

thats weird, cuz when i tried downloading them, none of those programs would work? do i have to do something first?

Huge SMTP problem with WM 6.1

Unfortunately I narrowed this down to the WM 6.1 upgrade. I can no longer send emails.
+ T-Mobile Dash (aka Excalibur aka HTC s620)
+ RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE installed
(generally working wonderfully!)
+ 2 different Pop3/SMTP email accounts (my own domains, hosted by godaddy)
+ EMail settings set-up on the dash (not using My Tmobile as a gateway)
(SMTP uses authentication, no ssl and port-80)
Emails were working just fine for 2 years under WM5, 6. After I installed 6.1 ... receiving worked fine, and still does.
Sending emails would work for a few hours, then I would get a vague error message (error - something is wrong - check the settings or that the network is working)
For a few days I was able to sometimes get it to work if I toggled SSL for outgoing. But no more.
The only way I can get emails to send is to delete the email settings, and re-set it up again as new. Then after a few hours it fails again.
After hours and hours of playing and on the phone with tech support - we've determines that the settings are (and always have been) correct and that there are no network or hosting problems. And the phone is brand new.
The email sending worked fine until the 6.1 upgrade.
Any suggestions, insights, help, therapy, anything???
Thanks!
Please someone help out - I'm going nuts.

You should change your password because if you have been using unsecured smtp for 2 years it's likely someone has already stolen it. Turn on SSL and keep it on ;-)
Not sure why it would fail after a few hours though.

reconfigure your connection settings

D-ville Solja said:
reconfigure your connection settings
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Not to sound too sarcastic - but can you be a little more vague? ; ) "tweak the settings" ... hmm. OK.
After hours and hours of troubleshooting (and I'm no newbie) with the mobile provider, hosting company etc ... I think we've reset, reconfigured just about everything.
The only thing that works - temporarily - is if I delete the entire email account from the phone, and the create a new (identical) one. It will work for a few send/receive sessions, then the same sending problem will occur ... never to recover until I repeat that process.
If anyone has any specific experience with this problem (or specific suggestions) - I'd really be grateful !

lemme get everything straight first, your saying you upgraded to 6.1 correct? and now your email account wont let u send emails correct? well is your EDGE working? can u still get on the internet with no problem?

D-ville Solja said:
lemme get everything straight first, your saying you upgraded to 6.1 correct? and now your email account wont let u send emails correct? well is your EDGE working? can u still get on the internet with no problem?
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yes yes yes yes yes
After 11 hours of testing and troubleshooting over the past 2 weeks - we've definitely covered the basics.
In case you were wondering
+ the phone is turned on
+ I am pressing the buttons on the device as opposed to trying to use tele-kinetic ability (which can be inconsistent)
+ My eyes are opened and are in working order
+ I made sure I was in no tunnels, caves, canyons or steel-concrete enclosed bomb shelters
+ I verified that my network provider (T-Mobile) did not go out of business, or suddenly remove all their cell towers
+ I verified that most my 2,000 email contacts (potential recipients) have not been abducted by aliens who also deleted their email accounts.
Also
+ This is happening with 2 different email accounts.
+ The Pop3 and smtp servers are indeed working - since
a. I am able to put the settings in my PC, and another phone device (a older sprint phone that allows me to setup pop/smtp) - send/recieve emails work fine
+ Emails were working fine before I upgraded to WM 6.1
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+ EMails worked ok for the first 2-3 days then the trouble started.
+ I can only get emails to send now when I delete the account, and create a new one (with identical settings). This lasts for a few hours before it fails to send.
+ I've been on the phone troubleshooting with tmobile and my hosting company for hours on end - trying all sorts of funky settings and tests ...
They hosting company seems to have determined that the smtp request is never getting to them; tmobile verified in great detail that the network is working.
Their idea was something along the lines of "the email client part of upgrade of WM 6.1 seems to be deleting a security certificate" or something .
I dunno about that - but it is clear that something is going on with the email client. The network, and email hosting is just fine, as are the settings.
Hope some of this helps - and that someone has some ideas I can try.
Oh - and just to pre-empt some suggestions:
1. No I won't change to linux, a mac or an iphone - but thanks for the suggestion.
2. I have checked out that I have not transported into an alternate reality, where everything is pretty much the same as in this reality - except my emails don't work.
3. Yes, I am using a Dash/HTC s670 - the battery is charged, and I have powered down, taken the battery and sim card out, hopped on one foot and made sure I have no other software running (even on all my pc's) before I powered it back on.
4. Yes, I can make phone calls and do everything else
5. yes, I have an internet connection - and the proper one (GPRS - but have also tried this via the wifi connection.
6. No I am not talking on the phone or browsing the internet during the ill-fated email sending.
7. I am pretty sure there is no conspiracy between t-mobile and my hosting company to block me from sending emails - only from this phone.
8. There are no unusual limitations or special issues with my hosting company about sending these emails.
9. I've tried sending to myself, others, multiples etc ... no difference.
10. It happens with more than one email address/domain.
Thanks for all the help! Sincerely. Thanks. I really need to solve this.

not sure if this helps, but i too cannot send via smtp, but one thing i found out is the email account ( as i found out) i setup (which was my ISP's ..Cox Communications) blocks smtp transmissions sent via proxy (which is what you go through via edge or gprs,...not sure about wi-fi though).

pudgedaddy said:
not sure if this helps, but i too cannot send via smtp, but one thing i found out is the email account ( as i found out) i setup (which was my ISP's ..Cox Communications) blocks smtp transmissions sent via proxy (which is what you go through via edge or gprs,...not sure about wi-fi though).
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I had tmobile level-3 tech support (aka as their obi-wans) conferenced in with my hosting company (godaddy) - and tmobile specifically asked about the proxy issues. Nope. Nice suggestion
PLEASE note everyone - MY issue is not merely "I can't get my emails to send" ... as if I am trying to figure out the proper settings or trying to get email sending to work for the first time
Emails USED to send until I upgraded to WM 6.1 ... for 2 years
If my settings were wrong, if there were some incompatibility between the network and my smtp server then my emails would NEVER have sent.
As it is ... they send sometimes (when I set up the email client with a new account).

wow im not sure about that one then, sorry

D-ville Solja said:
wow im not sure about that one then, sorry
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A lot of the senior members here (including yourself) seem to know what they are talking about and are quite helpful - despite many others answering without bothering to read the question. So thanks
I honestly and at a brick wall here. The only thing that seems to make sense is some sort of concept that involves my smtp settings being corrupted (upon saving or sending) ...
And I mean corrupted - since they work consistently for a few hours and then stop.
Other than that, I haven't a clue - neither do tmobile nor my hosting (and for once I feel sorry for them - since the time they put in trying to troubleshoot far exceeds any profit they might make from me).

i dont know if this will work or not but its a suggestion since I also own a domain with Godaddy. Sometimes even my SMTP fails though I am using WM6 and not WM6.1 so this is what i have done.
Goto www.mobisync.com and setup ur account with them. They support upto 5 accounts. Then configure ur settings according to the site.
There are 2 advantages for this. 1 is that you get push email in real time and when u send email its using mobisync servers and not the godaddy SMTP.
Also it totally free.
i am using this with no problems till now. I suggest you try it and its very easy to setup mobisync on ur cell phone...will probably take 30sec or less.
Hope this helps...cheers mate..!!

Hi - thanks for chiming in ...
actually I am not looking for "alternatives" - I am looking to solve the problem with the email client. If I need to send emails I can indeed send from my PC, or even webmail from my phone or just about anywhere else.
Sure, I can use some sort of network based email, IMAP or Microsoft exchange or whatever.
RIght now I want to solve the issue at hand. It's sort of like my trying to get about microsoft word on my PC working again, and getting suggests to type my letters in a text editor or other client. I *know* other ways exists - but this way is the one I prefer and it should be working. Clearly there is a problem and I'd like to solve it.
If no one else is experiencing this issue (in this forum), then I'll have to consider something specific with my setup/network etc .. but then again 6.1 has not been out long enough to make that assumption yet.
I appreciate the ideas and help - keep them coming - eventually we'll hit upon something.
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i dont know if this will work or not but its a suggestion since I also own a domain with Godaddy. Sometimes even my SMTP fails though I am using WM6 and not WM6.1 so this is what i have done.
Goto www.mobisync.com and setup ur account with them. They support upto 5 accounts. Then configure ur settings according to the site.
There are 2 advantages for this. 1 is that you get push email in real time and when u send email its using mobisync servers and not the godaddy SMTP.
Also it totally free.
i am using this with no problems till now. I suggest you try it and its very easy to setup mobisync on ur cell phone...will probably take 30sec or less.
Hope this helps...cheers mate..!!
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Since you can initially send, your setting must be at least basically correct. It sounds more like the SMTP session is not being closed correctly, since deleting and recreating (which would be effectively a close) works. I would guess WM6.1 thinks the connection is still active but the server has closed it. You really need a trace of the SMTP session.
As a work around/test you need is another completely different SMTP server you can authenticate with. I suggest your home ISP. They should have one you can authenticate with for use when travelling. Try it with that. If it works there is a compatibility issue between the Godaddy SMTP server and WM6.1 so you will need a trace for us to figure out what is going on. If it doesn't work there as well, well we still need that trace.

Darn, your suggested sounded promising - and I did indeed spend about 2 hours chasing it. I tried smtp from my cable op - who is my broadband isp ... no luck - same problem. Then I got on the phone with t-mobile, using their smtp settings. Same issue.
We're all stumped.
Not sure how to do a trace of the smtp session from my device.
Again - this worked for 2 years (until WM 6.1) - at which point sending worked for a few hours then not. The only way it works again is if I create a new account with the same settings.
jamssx said:
Since you can initially send, your setting must be at least basically correct. It sounds more like the SMTP session is not being closed correctly, since deleting and recreating (which would be effectively a close) works. I would guess WM6.1 thinks the connection is still active but the server has closed it. You really need a trace of the SMTP session.
As a work around/test you need is another completely different SMTP server you can authenticate with. I suggest your home ISP. They should have one you can authenticate with for use when travelling. Try it with that. If it works there is a compatibility issue between the Godaddy SMTP server and WM6.1 so you will need a trace for us to figure out what is going on. If it doesn't work there as well, well we still need that trace.
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It's OFFICIAL- WM 6.1 is the problem !
Damn. Damn.
OK - after yet ANOTHER 4 hour marathon session with Tmobile tier 3 support - in trying everything ... SMTP email still does not send reliably
(again - starting with WM 6.1, emails simple do not send - no timeout no port errors, bounceback, security issues). The only way it sends is if I create a NEW account with the identical settings. Then it will work for several hours 2-4 ... then emails go back to not-sending.
Finally after a total of over 30 hours of testing in the last 8 days (yeah, I've got a full time job too, and had been traveling!) ... I had to go to a tmobile store and side by side test with a WM 6.0 dash. Same everything - settings etc. 6.0 works. 6.1 not.
And where would I officially report this?
Even more of a tragedy since I absolutely loved everything else in 6.1
PLEASE PLEASE (whoever does these things) - please post a fix or rom update!
Please!
Thanks

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And where would I officially report this?
PLEASE PLEASE (whoever does these things) - please post a fix or rom update!
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I would recommend waiting for an official release from T-Mobile or HTC before filing any bug reports.
"Hi, I downloaded a hacked beta rom from some website and it doesn't work right" doesn't usually get them moving fast.

Well, I sort of meant reporting this to whomever ported. I honestly don't know the logistics here of what ROM I have or how it came about. the point of confusion (on this point) is that the announcement and link for the 6.1 release actually appeared on a T-Mobile affiliated blog or site (forget which) - giving the perhaps mistaken impression that this was some sort of official release for the Dash - only that T-mobile was not yet supporting it. I definitely claim ignorance here.
My comment about reporting the bug - was more about letting the person/team who "ported" WM 6.1 to the Dash know about this issue. I am sure they would want to know (especially if this issue was specific to the port). Just because I posted a thread on this issue does not mean that the right people know about it yet - which is why I mentioned it.
Thanks

smtp problem with wm 6.1
is there a solution to this problem yet? I have the same problem since upgrading to 6.1. I've noticed that it appears to be related to smtp authentication. It seems to work ok on an earthlink account i have, which does not require smtp authentication.

No solution yet. Problem still persists (though intermittent). Seems to be related to 6.1 not resetting or saving a security certificate or something. But I am no expert. All I know is I can no longer rely on my Dash for SMTP email since upgrading to 6.1

i'm having the exact same issue
i have my phone setup for imap with gmail and i can receive perfectly fine, but it wont send
i delete the account and recreated it and it worked but after a few hours stop sending again
any fix?

Activesync with exchange while roaming

Hi,
It seems that I have a systematic security error when active syncing while I'm roaming. I did not have this error on my previous phone : push was disabled but I could sync manually.
And of course, sync works fine when not roaming.
I havd read that ICS does support some more parameters for the active sync protocol but what could lead to that error message only when roaming?
Thanks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Coming back to this, Touchdown does sync when roaming, so the issue seems to be more on client side than server one.
Nobody else is facing this issue?

Hi, sorry that I re-post on this one, but the truth is that I still have this very same problem for already 9 or 10 months.
Exchange Sync is not working properly when I'm roaming... Scenarios are as follows:
- Sync works just fine when I'm not roaming or via Wifi
- When I'd land in a different country, I'd get a couple of syncs working fine
- Then after 1 hour or 2 max, sometimes not even, sync stops working and the Exchange process is emptying my battery in less than 1 hour...
- When I go back on Wifi (e.g. hotel) or when I get back home, that's it, sync works fine again...
I fail to understand what can the cause of this and where to look for solutions or workaround...
As said earlier, I checked with Touchdown and syncs work just fine, roaming or not roaming... But I'm a "stock" guy and I don't want to use Touchdown just because of this roaming active sync that is not working...
Any recommendation on what I should look for? Anyone who would be having roaming active sync working?
Thanks.
PS : I'm on JB stock. I had the same problem with ICS stock and with ICS AOKP before...

Its possible you have a policy on your exchange server that doesn't allow syncing while roaming.
I experience the same battery drain you speak of while roaming. So to save battery life I disable data if I don't need it or sync only when I'm connected to WiFi.

Thanks a lot for the answer. I think I was not clear in my earlier post. My issue is not that the sync is not working, it is that I don't even have the possibility to manually sync and thus access my emails when I request them...

Maybe that's a DNS issue. Does ActiveSync even hit your Exchange Server? Do you have access to the internet when you have problems syncing?

What was your previous phone? Not Android I'm guessing.
That being said, there remain a number of issues with the Exchange related code in the native client. I myself just submitted a calendar related defect that is scheduled for a fix in the next major release. My suggestion is that you go to http://code.google.com/p/android/issues and do a quick search. If you don't find anything then open an incident for this.
If you want to try to figure it out, it is helpful to enable debugging mode since it can show specifically what might be happening in your case (if you open a defect report then you will need this log too). Here's how:
choose add account in email settings and for the email address enter "[email protected]" with a password "debug" (no quotes). You will get a new account named "Debug" in the list. Tap that and check "enable extra debug logging" along with "Enable exchange sd card logging". Now reboot. When your phone is finished booting, email sync operations will be logged to a file named "emaillog.txt" on the root of the sdcard folder. To disable, rename emaillog.txt to something else or delete, then set up the debug account again and uncheck anything that's checked.
Also, checking "Enable Verbose mode" will log detailed sync operations that may be helpful in your case. Be forewarned however, that the log will grow quickly!
At this point in time, the Touchdown client is by far the best exchange related client for Android.

Thanks a lot for the extensive answer. I'll go through it in all details a bit later but I can already say that my previous phone was a Desire Z, so Android as well.

thefa said:
Thanks a lot for the extensive answer. I'll go through it in all details a bit later but I can already say that my previous phone was a Desire Z, so Android as well.
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In many cases, the operator/manufacturer supplies their own email client which may have been the case in your previous phone. Nexus is pure Google however. My XP with the native client has been bad from day 1, but has gotten successively better. When ICS was released, I could finally connect with the native client. Now, I'm finally using the native client but haven't seen it in action when roaming yet.....

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Maybe that's a DNS issue. Does ActiveSync even hit your Exchange Server? Do you have access to the internet when you have problems syncing?
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Thanks for your suggestion. I am not sure about the DNS issue : I have access to internet while I'm not able to connect to the activesync server. I do think that activesync does reach the exchange server. I see no reason why it wouldn't (Touchdown does reach it for example)...

Sleuth255 said:
If you want to try to figure it out, it is helpful to enable debugging mode since it can show specifically what might be happening in your case (if you open a defect report then you will need this log too). Here's how:
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Very good. I followed the instruction, was initially connected via Wifi and did get the log filled. Moved to 3G (still roaming) and so far it is working. It is not entirely new that sometimes it works for a while as I mentioned above. I'll update tomorrow after a longer testing time.
Thank you very much for the how-to on exchange logging... I should have looked for that myself directly

So, I had to wait a bit longer than usual for the thing to start not working when connected via mobile and roaming, but I eventually did get the error :
I have 3MB of log (I kept using the phone for a good while with logging on...) with error paterns again and again but I think the relevant line is that at some point in time I get:
Sync response error: 449
Then there is a bunch of other strange things which I guess are a consequence of this one...
I also have a log for when I was connected and via Wifi.
I'm back from my trip and, as usual, as soon as I'm connected to my operator's network, it does work again, just fine...
I googled a bit the 449 error code without getting to any conclusion...
What would you suggest? Should I submit a bug?
Thanks,

I'd post it as a defect and see what they say.