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Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect, Pocket MSN is better

If any of you of you guys are like me you've been waiting for BlackBerry connect to work for the blueangel forever. I have downloaded the software and fiddled with it a million times, the fact of the matter is that it only works for Tmobile UK right now. The rest of us are screwed. But there is an alternative, microsoft has recently release pocket MSN, it works exactly like the blackberry web client, except that after the initial 19.99 fee it is completely FREE!!!!!!. Unlike other push email alternatives where although you might get a few months grace period they are pay services. Pocket MSN pushes your hotmail account directly to your phone, and no text messaging BS like activesync AUTD. its actual push email. You can either foward your email to hotmail, or have your hotmail account search you pop mail boxes. And plus since microsft makes the phones operating system and has access to the source codes, Pocket MSN works seamlessly with the phone. Now that I finish telling the benefits, the downsides is the fact that there is no alert sound when an email comes in, or at least I dont know how to set it up. Another downside is the fact the there is no way for it to push you coporate email, unless you foward your coporate email to hotmail, which is a security risk. Another downside is having to create a hotmail account, but then again you have to create a blackberry account when using blackberry web client. The last downside the I can think of is the 19.99 freaking fee!!!, I guess a one time payment is better the monthly payments that most companies charge. Tell me what you guys think, I think its worth though

^-- thanks for the infomation. This would be an asset so long as it isn't a spamware of some kind and as long as I don't get any spams from MSN.
Is there a email server script that would do the same thing if one owns there own unix server? I will research on this, but just in case someone out there knows the answer.

So what your telling me is that:
* Pocket MSN works with my companies Corporate eMail services
* Pocket MSN works with my companies iPager (Interactive Pager) service
* that my companies multi thousand dollar BES infrastructure can utilize Pocket MSN
* That As a message is delivered to the system you get a notification
* That as a message is delivered to a user I get a notification
* As the user reads the message I get a notification
* As the user deletes the message I get a notification
* That it is instant and ready for corporate usage
* That I can attach an intranet link (not InterNET) and the receiving party can then access that link over the PocketMSN network
Or are you telling me that you nor your company do not highly depend on these features..... because ours (Large telecom company) lives, breathes, and dies by these little devices.
Thanks for your advice on PocketMSN, however I WANT and Need Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC, regardless if you are happy with PocketMSN or not.
I hope all that use and depend on the blackberry devices will continue to borrow, test, and hack the software until one of us gets it working. That's what this board is for.
Raptor

Hmm, I don't think Pocket MSN is implying on changing the face of such technology. Some of us home users don't have the capital to run a service such as yours, nor do we even use your network. I am looking for a free altrenative that works correctly with no string attached. The key word is "alternatrive", NOT replacement.

Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.

Raptor said:
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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I wasn't aware PocketMSN was pushware. Refuse to pay £20 for the software when it will be free with magneto devices.
Patience on BB - I have been using the latest version, and all indications are that it's mostly good.... as far as BB ever goes on a non-RIM device....
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Might not be BES but still great software
Hey Raptor, yeah ok I understand that if your going to use blackberry to the fullest extent, then pocket MSN or any alternative does not nearly match up. But alot of us only use the most fundamental features of blackberry email, and for that this software seems to be more then enough, as a matter of fact, for those of us who only use blackberry web client, I find Pocket MSN is just as good if not better, paying 20 bucks for the software really sucked especially for a cheap ass like me. But I am not paying any extra monthly fee. Which is good. So this software might not be suitable for your coporate "MEGA" company. But for blackberry Web Client users this software is a great substitute maybe a replacement, I am not sure why microsoft did not offer this for free. Usually when microsoft tries to bully other companies to the ground (Lotus 123, Netscape, Real Audio) they give it away.

Not as cheap as me... Whenever I need to check my Hotmail, I go to http://mobile.msn.com/pocketpc/ and read my Hotmail for free...
Hope the Pocket MSN pushed email feature comes with message notification. If not, it's no better than going to the link above...

For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!

For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!

Questions About Pocket MSN
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David

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davpel said:
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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Does it impact battery life, yes i guess it does. Because technically your leaving your gprs data connection on all the time. But if you compare it to checking your email every ten minutes then its way better. AS for audible alerts i have not been able to figure that out as of yet. And yes i am positive that there are no text messages, it is purely data based

To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.

Thanks for the quick reply. One more question. Do you know whether you can specify a "reply to" address for replying to messages recieved on your device via Hotmail? The reason that I ask is that if I go this route, I will set up a Hotmail account and have it pull my mail from my normal email accounts via POP/IMAP, but when I reply by phone, I don't want the Hotmail address showing. I know that I can do this with the standard Pocket Outlook mailbox and with the autd/exchange solution.
If this works for me, I guess the crappy thing is that it will cost me about 40 bucks. 19 fo Pocket MSN, and then another 19 yearly for Hotmail Plus since, as far as I can tell, Microsoft now makes you get a Plus account if you want to be able to have your Hotmail account pull from POP/IMAP. Kind of crappy, if you ask me. Yahoo!'s free service includes POP/IMAP.
David

Couldn't you just set up a forward from your pop3 account to hotmail?

Yes, forwarding will work. But then if I hit "reply" to the message, it will send the reply to my POP account rather than the actual sender -- at least, that's what I assume will happen.

To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
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Obviously you do not understand.... with better communications programs we are much closer to curing caner and a host of other diseases....

Free Push mail!!!

First of all, a disclaimer I am in no way affiliated with this company.
I just thought to let you know about the fact that I found a company who offers FREE MS Exchange hosting, with 1GB (!) mail storage, with push email for WM5.
After I flashed my unit yesterday, I bumped to this on Google. I signed up, and it seem to work fine. The only catch so far is, that they offer some ads in the webmail, and you cannot access it via POP, but other than that its fully functional. And there seem to be no ads sent to your mobile. (So far)
Its here: http://live.mail2web.com/
Offcourse, you still need to have GPRS data on your phone account, but this is usually much cheaper than to get a blackberry service. At least in Europe it is.
Regards,
Bela

Did you intend to offer up what the name of the service was?
NEVERMIND THIS POST. I was reading too fast. LOL

I think the only negative to mail2web's push mail service is that your email will have to be [email protected], if you want your current email address you'd have to upgrade to a charged account. http://mail.port88.org is an alternative that does provide email masking, you would have to forward your mail to your port88 account. www.emoze.com is another provider, you simply download the software to your pc and phone and it syncs between the two. I haven't tried any myself , you can read the thread on Port88 http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-273878.html. Hope this helps

You can forward all mails from your existing mailbox to go to the mail2web.com account as well.
You can even setup, that the mail2web account fetches your pop or imap mailboxes for you, but only once per hour i think.
I use the forward, that way I have my incoming mails kept in my original pop mailbox, and just auto forward a copy to the mail2web acc.
Regards,
Bela

There was one software which I hoped I could get running on the smartphone, as that was Pocket IRC. I tried and tried (even with SPHelper, there's an adjust option that makes it appear) but no amount of workarounds got it running. I need my DCC, err I want, rather.

Just installed emoze seems to be working very well, will check my GPRS usage online tom to see if used much data through the night, has a built in data counter but want to know over all data.
Will post findings as seems to be a good push mail client.

Please do I'm very interested in your results.

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Please do I'm very interested in your results.
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Well got it all set up but couldn't send mail via client, mind you was silly o'clock i was trying to work it out and my i.s.p online billing off so no way to find out GPRS usage, so will try and get it set up correctly today and see if GPRS usage available, then give you low down.

stylez said:
Well got it all set up but couldn't send mail via client, mind you was silly o'clock i was trying to work it out and my i.s.p online billing off so no way to find out GPRS usage, so will try and get it set up correctly today and see if GPRS usage available, then give you low down.
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To be hoest i'm rather dubious about data as it has to connect o there server before push and always keep the GPRS connection active...

That's somewhat discouraging. Hmm well I'll have to check it out myself and see if I want my default or what have you

So did you ever end up getting the data usage, as I am just curious to find out how much it uses?

jdoggraz said:
So did you ever end up getting the data usage, as I am just curious to find out how much it uses?
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No as i couldn't get data usage before install as account offline when tryed to check, so had nothing to be able to check against, aslo i couldn't get it to send not had time to set up again yet, but now have my GPRS usage so will set up again tonight and see what the data usage is like, i know it only uses data to send recieve but it also has to reconnect to server if connection dropped thats the bit i wonda what ammount of data it uses?

Originally Posted by jdoggraz
So did you ever end up getting the data usage, as I am just curious to find out how much it uses?
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Edit: given up as must have messed something up on install as evrytime i go to send it kicks the server off, tryed to reinstall but residue left over so i'm giving up as i can't be bothered, worth a try but then maybe instructions on web and having a proper uninstall would help..

A little help

Hi guys, and great forum.
At the outset mods should feel free to push this is the appropriate forum.
I seem to have fallen in love with the xda orbit/P3300. I run 2 websites and am more and more often away from home these days that my trusty nokia N73 just aint cutting it for web access.
So I have looked about at something more mobile web access tailored and bumped into this. My questions to help me:
I'm currently with Vodafone, not due an upgrade til November. I could buy the phone sim free, unlocked. Having searched the forum I see that it should work when the Voda settings (wap, mms) are entered. Is this correct?
I hear that some folk have been caught out with hefty data charges because the phone always uses gprs constantly. Again, is this right?
This probably isn't suitable for this forum, but if data charges could be an issue, would it be better to go with someone like T-mobile that give unlimited access?
Finally, having read the manual, i'm a little confused with the messaging email set up. Are texts sent immediately when you tap send? Are mms saved until you next go "online" with wap? When i want to pick up emails, can i do as i do now, connect remotely via wap to my BT server and pick up on demand, or will it always automatically do that on connecting to wap.
My apologies for the questions, and hope one of you good folk can help me out.
Thanking you in advance
Mike

Hi MikI,
It doesn't matter what device you use, as long you have access to the wap and mms gatewats, so with you vodaphone sim you should be able to.
Some software once installed (weather apps, etc) can be configured to automatically download new updates and thus incur charges without you knowing it. The phone itself has nothing to do with that.
It's really up to you with what data plan suits you, if you constantly use gprs, then you should know that getting a flatrate plan is the best thing to do, again it depends on your usage.
Yes SMS messages are immediately sent when you tap send. For MMS you can configure it to either connect automatically and send your message immediately once you tap send or to wait once you go online and then send it.
Hope that helps, just my 2 cents.
Cheers.

If your main motivation is mobile web, I would look into getting a UMTS phone..GPRS might not do the trick for your needs.

Hello gang, and thanks for your replies - they are really helpful.
Web access is one of my motivations, but the main ones I have is being able to pick up my emails from the ISP (and going on web if they emails say I have to), and the organiser functions.
Web access is really restricted to things like google searches for numbers etc, if i had to do some serious web browsing it would only be to my sites and I would hope few and far in between.
Now the choice between sim free, or a new contract
Thanks all again, and if anyone can suggest anything i may not be considering or missing about this handset I'd be most grateful.

HELP ... WM6 - 2 Small questions

I have two small questions. Hopefully they are eay to answer though I have had no luck so far finding if the answers are here.
1) In the mail / sms app the left soft key is "delete", can this be changed to "new" as it was in wm5 ?
2) In the nice new HTML email mode I get my emails fine, but the images don't download in the mail. Is it possible to stop each mail promopting and for it just to happen ?
May not be ROM specific but just in case, I am using Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31.
Thanks for reading
Dave

hi Dave, firstly, no you cannot change the button back. Well not that i know of. Annoying.
Secondly, i assume you are connecting to an msexchange 2007 server so that you are actually viewing the mail in html, a lot of people made the mistake of assuming that wm6 would give them html email through their existing ex2003 server.
I am guessing though that the images in the emails are being seen as attachments and are therefore not downloaded until you say so. Maybe you should tick the box to download attachments automatically and limit the size of them to something sensible. Probly dont want to try this unless you have a decent data plan.

Hi,
Thats a shame. I keep deleteing my message when trying to send new ones !
Actually I am not using any server for my mail. I am collecting directly from my ISP using pop3. The message contains a little notification bar just like IE would saying that I should click it download the images.
Someone I know who has this ROM said that there was a reg key i could change and it would do it all automatically.
Cheers for the response.

Hi dmj1973,
I have done quite a bit of Google research on the pocket Outlook issue of not automatically downloading pictures, and there doesn't appear to be a solution. I myself have switched to qmail and no longer have that problem.

Skydrive Warning

Hi Guys,
Heres a little warning for you all, I've just been caught out by this. Hopefully you can all avoid this trouble.
Basically my Skydrive account was suspended, which made my Omnia 7 (running Mango) almost useless.
Emails still worked, but contacts wouldn't update, Twitter wouldn't sync, I couldn't access ANYTHING stored on Skydrive. From the Phone or my PC's.
Even now that I've got my Skydrive account unlocked, something is still wrong, as new Skydrive files sometimes don't show up on the phone and contacts added/changed on the phone will show on the web, but not the other way round.
Why did this happen.....
I was at a party, had a few drinks and used my phone to take some 'stupid' photos of my mates doing some 'silly' things.
These photos were then automatically uploaded to Skydrive.
Where Skydrives automatic management system decided they were in contravention with the T&C's and insantly suspended my Skydrive account.
According the the T&C's link on the 'Blocking Page' you'll get a warning first, but I and a few others on the Live/Hotmail forums didn't.
The 'Blocking Page' also has a link to request assistants, but all you get is an automated response. Telling you you've broken the T&C's.
To make matters worse, the Mod's on the Windows Live Solution Centre do not have enough authority to help, so they send you to the same link thats on the 'Blocking Page'
Which gets you the very same automated response, telling you you've broken the T&C's.
It's taken me almost two weeks to get sorted out, but my account (the Primary account on my phone) still isn't working right. As noted above.
So Its a reset and start again with a new Live ID, which means changing the default ID's on both Zune and Xbox.
Hopefully you guys can learn from my mishap and avoid all this trouble.

was your skydrive settings set to private or me only?

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was your skydrive settings set to private or me only?
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I don't think it matters what your privacy settings are. You can't upload stuff that is against their terms of service.

I took quite a lot of nude photos of myself but my skydrive auto uploads is set to private. Havent gotten in trouble yet.

Don't sync your camera roll with SkyDrive.
Problem Solved.
Create a New Windows Live ID and factory Reset your phone.
Yea, it sucks, but if you want everything to work seamlessly that's what you're going to have to do.

If you have similar issues and want to get them resolved pretty quickly, try and contact @microsofthelps on twitter. Takes around 2 or 3 days at max until your account is unlocked again.

I guess calling them, would be faster, though.

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I guess calling them, would be faster, though.
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When I faced the issue that my account was blocked, calling the hotline was no solution as they were not able to help me. At least not the german hotline. The guys on twitter DID resolve the problem though.