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Hi,
I would like to get some peoples thoughts/feedback on the different WM6 ROMs available.
I have a Dopod 838 Pro and am probably going to flash it purely to see if any extra functionality can be gained out of it & seeing as i have Windows Vista on my Laptop, it seems logical to have WM6 on my XDA
XDA Live & LVSW seem to be looking the most populat of the current flavors around?
Any comments?
I'm actually just flashing the device now with LVSW but was reading some of the posts about XDA Live & it seems tempting...
I guess i may aswell mention i'm also testing out Telstra NextG at work, so anything which will make the radio more responsive & reliable is going to go down well in my books.
If mine goes good, then i might have to do the same for one of the managers at work who has the i-mate jasjam but with the current Telstra ROM on there it is performing like a snail in a sand pit.
All comments appreciated, seeing as i'm the guinea pig at work for most of this stuff.
Thanks.

I tried first LVSW, and run into installation trouble. I got the infamous white screen, and after I made it work, it was really slow. Maybe all my mistake, don't know. I tried than XDA Live 2, and that installed like a charm, and works like a charm, very fast. I am using it since 3 days now, and did not have a single time to soft re-set - and that was necessary with WM5 at least 3 twice a day.

Hi there,
I have notice many users with i-Mate JasJam have upgraded to WM6 Black Edition V1.2.
Anyone have any comments or comparison to the other two?
I am currently own a JasJam with WM5 - this thing runs like a dog and having to soft re-set almost everyday - I am currently considering upgrade to WM6 but really not sure which one to go for.
Any advice would be really appreciated - thanks.

See this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/664668.html
You may have to do that reg hack to enable nextg.. that was the first thing I noticed after flashing a non standard rom.. less band options.. being on plain ole gsm, it didn't bother me.. but that's the only place I've seen mention of it.

I flashed my Dopod 838Pro with Black 1.2 and couldn't be happier. It's really quick, as stable as I noticed WM5 to be, and (being an Aussie) I prefer to have a rom which was cooked here and has carrier settings for here. This was my first experience with flashing a ROM but I only intend to flash again with a later version of the Black ROM. I'd highly recommend it.

I began with the WM6 vanilla and then went to an earlier LSVW ROM. The earlier LSVW took 25 min to flash. I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
I went back to the vanilla ROM. It takes a little tweaking to get it right but takes only a few minutes to flash. It's also stable. One does have to move the windows office icons around to use MS office.
Remember to SIM and CID unlock your hermes before flashing. Also, you'll have to use the keyboard fix cab for certain hermes versions.

I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
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nope...I installed the OS only version and it took about only 6 minutes to install.
you need an 'OS only' rom if you have already flashed the radio to the latest version.

WM6 Black 1.2 is the best IMHO. I used XDA Live for several weeks, but find Black more quicker and more stable, less soft resets etc.

My preference is with the latest LSVW. It has less baggage than WMBE but if you need the functionality of the extra software provided with WMBE then you should chose that.
I think there is not much difference in terms of stability between the two although there has been issues with white screen (more apparent with the LSVW apparently) tho I haven't been cursed with that yet. Most of the instability/compatibility issues lie within the software installed after flashing the OS.
If I'm correct, LSVW has not had the OS version number editted to allow BBC/GOODLINK to work on it but WMBE has. This is not an issue for me since I have no use for these programs.
There is also some more recent additions to the variety of WM6 roms tho they are based on the LSVW version.
I'm looking forwards to Jasjammings WMBE 2.0 which he claims to be based on a final version of WM6. This should be very promising and despite the various added features which I won't need I'll definately be installing.

I was using Vanilla at first, sometimes my TyTN hung up but not too often. Then XDA Live v.10, without any problems. Then I've tried Black Edition v.1.2 but it had issues with SPB Software, sop that was no good for me at all.. Now I'm trying LVSW 2007-03-26, so far so good.. but probably i will flash again to XDA Live v.30 when it's avalaible

Best rom?

I know its a kinda noobie question and that every rom has its pros and cons, but i'm going to have to ask anyway.
Is there a "definative" rom?
I'm currently using the M5000 rom (as shown in my sig)
What ones are out there? and what sort of features can i expect to see in them? can anyone link to any usefull info or rom developers sites?
What is the better of the opperator roms?
I'm sorta tempted to try a WM6 rom, as i'm eager to see it in action. have the issues with the WiFi and the video call been sorted? i dont use video call much but i feel it would be a shame not to have it. i live in a 3g area so am able to test if needed
Again i appologise for a kinda stupid and hard to answer thread but i've gotta ask
Last of all, whats the stance that the operators have on using other roms than their own?
Thanks.

Sorry to bump, But i'd really appreciate any info you can give me here.
Thanks
Ryan.

If you value Video Calls, then you can only use WM5. There are only 4 I can recommend.
If you prefer OFFICIAL ROMs, I only recommend to look at these 2:
1) The latest QTEK ROM: ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]_qtek_wwe_13077_130176_10900_wwe_ship.exe
2) The T-Mobile NL ROM: http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/hardware_updates/mda_pro_update.aspx
Both of these are stable and supports A2DP, both AKU2 ROMs.
If you prefer UNOFFICIAL ROMS, I only recommend to look at these 2:
1) JWright's ROM AKU 3.2 (1.90.96): http://rapidshare.com/files/21864540/J_s_3.2__IMate_1.90.96_.zip
2) Helmi's ROM (AKU 3.5 version 1.3.1): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286036 (I don't have a link, sorry)
Both of them are EXCELLENT. But Helmi's ROM is faster to reboot, so after a soft reset, you don't have to wait for more than 2 minutes to get all the data in place. Something those 3 I listed above suffer. BUT with Helmi's ROM, the Windows Live Messenger that came with it is a TRIAL version, so you have to install the HACKED Windows Live Messenger version that removes the expiration over the original. JWright's ROM will work well after install, no need to customize anything. From my experience, Helmi's ROM works well with my BT headset Motorolla HT820, I don't have lags, something I experience with JWright's ROM more often. But I don't know, it might be a software conflict. So in the end, it is still up to you to decide.

Cool thanks for the info, i'm not totaly sold to either official or unofficial roms at the moment i'm liking my m5000 rom without the orange crap, if i can improve on that, which it sounds like i can that would be great.
I've been a little reluctant to just randomly try out different roms, mainly because i'm scared i'll brick my Uni. i guess i'll just try a few out.
how hard/easy is it to wreck a uni whilst changing roms?
anyone got any info on the WM6 roms?

new telstra imate RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108

new
RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108_Ship.exe

I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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I couldn't find it on their site either - but I installed this and it is indeed an official Imate Telstra WM6 Pro rom. It's very fast too.

Please visit the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348435

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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Click here to download
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/JASJAMUPDAU.html#DNLD
Exe version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.exe
Zip version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.zip

Can i ask a noob question. Can we install this in HTC tytn ??

Hyins said:
Click here to download
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Hyins - you linked the realy old Telstra\Club Imate upgrade. The original Rom linked at the start of the thread is different and up to date.

This rom works and has the latest radio
This Rom works very well and has the latest radio!!!!

Does this ROM replace the SPL as well?

anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it

xternal said:
anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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Agreed. I installed the New radio out of it, and thats going strong, but i havent tested the full rom.

A SUPER DUPER Rom From Imate & Telstra
A super fine Rom without any call dropouts or hangs. Newest radio delivers optimum performance in connectivity and speed , just the ROM you are looking for ! Though the storage is less ( just 33.73MB ) but on deleting some unwanted games and programs you can push up storage. The details of ROM are : Windows Mobile6 Pro build 18125.0.4.2 ; Rom version 3.62.305.5
Rom date : 6th Nov 2007 ; Radio version : 1.54.30.10 ; Ext Rom : 3.62.305.116. I have been testing the ROM since last 2 Days and found it to be more superior than those cooked ones . It also contains the latest version of MS mobile Office 2007. It also has PV player for razor sharp video playback. Overall who ever has discovered this ROM must be a perfomance freak and not only applications freak.
Great job by sharing this fine ROM !!!!! Also Imate customers can upgrade to this ROM alongwith other users of Hermes 100 series ppcs.

So ugly, it has to be a genuine Telstra upgrade
Installed the new Telstra ROM and it does appear to be official except that it was so boring compared to cooked ROMs I have used from Custel and Black.
My evening got a lot more interesting after I flashed Schapps latest release over the top of the ugly Telstra one.
Of interest was a Telstra 5.5 cab in the extended ROM. Now that it's erased, silly me, I would like to know how to extract it from the installer to share.

i'm also in Australia and want to know more about this ROM. Does anyone know anything......?

I am installing new rom now will have a bit of a play and see how it goes

dont install this if you are in UK,its has weak signal reception and also often disconnect call half way through.now switch back to 1.47

xternal said:
Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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..hey nothing strange there.. caxio does work his magic all the time to bring us here the latest of the stock ROMs available all the time...

Have installed, and it seems stable and quick.
Note if you're not with Telstra (Australia) you'll probably need to change the band settings (GSM 900/1800 and UMTS 850).
I liked the Black roms, except I never got bluetooth issues resolved and it'd crash when answering calls via car kit. I stuck with TNT for a while as bluetooth worked fine, but unhappy it'd randomly crash on me every few days. Not good for a phone used for after-hours support. Most other ROMs would drop ActiveSync connection after just 10 minutes.
So far so good on this one, will add the (very few) apps I'm missing and see how it survives over the week.

I think im going to try and strip some of the stuff out of it, and see how it goes.
So far so good though. Seems nice and quick, stable and good phone connectivity.

I installed this yesterday and so far it's been great.
As others have said, not a lot of storage after installation (with my programs all installed I'm down to about 17 mb free).
Radio seems really good, however if you're in a fringe area it will chew your battery up. In CBD battery usage is very similar to 1.47.
I'm thinking of re-flashing this one and soft-resetting prior to the customisation (which is where most of the bloat comes from). This should improve the memory situation somewhat and as all the customisation cabs are on extented memory I can pick only the ones I need.

Good Stable Rom i dont think there is one!?!

Alright i have tried about every rom on this site now i have had alot of good runs with some but some of them i have bad runs with some now i am going to ask some people...which rom is the best one for Texting and MMS...i would also like it to be fast and stable does anyone know of a rom like it lol
Thanks!
P.S - Some roms would restart on there own I HATE THAT!

I've use this one since it's arrival, and it's fast and reliable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
I find this one incredibly stable, just as long as you don't stupidly add the x-button program on top of what's already there. It'll create a conflict in the software and force a reset.
I don't text, so I'd advise reading through to gauge what other people think.

LlamaLord said:
Alright i have tried about every rom on this site now i have had alot of good runs with some but some of them i have bad runs with some now i am going to ask some people...which rom is the best one for Texting and MMS...i would also like it to be fast and stable does anyone know of a rom like it lol
Thanks!
P.S - Some roms would restart on there own I HATE THAT!
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If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.

st3v3 said:
If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.
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What RADIO version are you using ?

CRCs ROM
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.

Agree CRC's are the go
quarlow said:
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.
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I agree with this. IMHO CRC's Stable roms have all the features that are required. I have played with many but always come back to his stable versions when I want to use my hermes for work.

Stable and fast
Hi
I have tried most of the roms released here, and just 2 months ago came across DVH roms. This Vietnamese guy is really finding speed and reliability in my Hermes. It is the only roms that didn't mess up no matter what I install. All the others fail sooner or later or they are too slow compared to the roms of this guy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392042
Best regards RT, Norway

st3v3 said:
If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.
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If you are on your 6th one in a month then how do you know they are stable? You dont seem to use them long enough to find out.

Most of the 6.1 roms out there are stable, however you need to follow the rules and flash a carrier rom before flashing. - some require a good radio rom etc.
i saw you posted in binkys 3.9 thread.. well im using that rom and have been using it pre-release and its fine.. no problems what so ever.. so theres something wrong with the way your running your roms.

So far I found Pay's last one to work the best for me. I have kept it longer then any ROM including the stock one so far. I will probably try one of the 6.1 roms again now that they are getting figured out more, but that will be after I come back from Greece.

All I do is text, MMS, make phone calls, and check the weather or check my email from time to time and the best IMHO is the MRH ROMs followed closely by the Binkey11's ROM. The MRH one is my favorite because it has most the features and apps but Binky's is really good for being light and fast. I am bouncing back and forth between them and I like them the most right now.
I am also a HUGE fan of Schaps ROMs so be sure to look for that one here in the next little bit. I would venture to guess it will probably be the benchmark all other WM6.1 ROMs are measured by.

bartybet said:
If you are on your 6th one in a month then how do you know they are stable? You dont seem to use them long enough to find out.
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If u flash often, then u know u'r device's feel, behavior, apps, etc. So, it doesn't take that long to evaluate if u'r own device is stable, buggy, quick, slow, etc.
I find most of these cooks roms (from hard work & revised versions) very stable...

This is how to go about?
kingsizeriz said:
Most of the 6.1 roms out there are stable, however you need to follow the rules and flash a carrier rom before flashing. - some require a good radio rom etc.
i saw you posted in binkys 3.9 thread.. well im using that rom and have been using it pre-release and its fine.. no problems what so ever.. so theres something wrong with the way your running your roms.
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So i flash to AT&T New Rom 1st then install a rom that i want and it should run fine???
quarlow said:
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.
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I am going to give that a shot and upgrade my radio...i have had 1.54.30.10 before but maybe i should stay with it = D...I am alrdy running CRCs rom and i do like it but so far i loved Binkys roms but it just keep restarting on me i cant have that! = /

PDAViet WM6.1 build 19900 black version ROM is the best thing that happened to my TyTn. I've been running this for a month now, its fast, stable, no problem what so ever though loaded with lots of apps. Its really a good one for my hermes.

LlamaLord said:
So i flash to AT&T New Rom 1st then install a rom that i want and it should run fine???
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yeah - should depending on applications that you install after and their 6.1 stability

i dont get why?
kingsizeriz said:
yeah - should depending on applications that you install after and their 6.1 stability
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So why do we do this and what is the reason to go through all of this?

LlamaLord said:
So why do we do this and what is the reason to go through all of this?
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i believe it has something to do with the storage, and the carrier rom returns the device to the original settings.

CRC's ROM's are the best in my opinion & I think I've tried most of the others.
Been running CRC 10.4 since release with no issues.
I find it's only add-ons or bad CABs that may make them unstable.

Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite
Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite or Berd's 4.31 SS (=Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite with 3.62 SuperStorage).
Have been running this ROM for months now, zero issues and very very fast.

New Phone - best ROM

Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.

Extinguishers at the ready! a popular question indeed. I use Dutty's it rocks.

I use Bepe's ROM, 1st because they are really stable, 2nd because I can manage my own language

Fallen Spartan said:
Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.
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Anything based on the 1.93 roms are good. I used one of the stock roms on mine.
Generally it is considered that the .05 radio is the best, but I found the .11 gave me slightly better 3G coverage. I think there might be a .16 on the way but I dont know when that will be released.

I'm just using the latest official ROM (1.93). For once I find the official Diaond ROMS quite stable and usable. I've flashed a few ROMS such as Diamond project and Elite and find more annoyances on these ROMs than the original: things like modded splash screens I don't like and web links opening with I.E. instead of Opera.
I recommend just using the latest generic HTC ROM for now, unless you have particular cause to change, though to be fair you could just try all of them and see which you like best!
It's all good fun.

OK thread cleaned up. Stay on topic please people.
@ Reb0rn - lose the attitude, if you dont like the thread, dont post in it ....simple.

I use the TLR 3 ROM, it runs on 1.93.xxx.2 and i like it coz it keeps most of the stock features/look but with upgrades and tweaks to make it faster + its very stable - It is also one of the very few (if only) ROM's that includes the AppToDate application which allows you to update the phone over the air and hence means you don't have to flash the phone too often to get the latest stuff.
The .05 radio is the best and also makes the phone quad band... (you may also want to check out the Gsensor apps page on the 'diamond' part of the forum some cool stuff their.)