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Black Dymond or LVSW Cingular Edition

I've been using Black (and currently 3.01) but am looking at moving on. Who can give me advise on the pros and cons between Dymond and the LVSW?

If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.

That is probably my biggest concern, and the reason I left the factory ROM. I'm kind of leaning the LVSW way but want to make sure I'm not passing up something good with Black Dymond. I"m starting to get tired repeatedly setting up my device with all my programs after I move to a new ROM.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.

Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...

drewriddle said:
Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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speed, stability and the latest RTM Rom (not a MS dogfood rom) available. please see the threads over at 4wm for your self.
Black Dymond has been beta, RC1 and RC2 tested by a user group. Any issues experienced will be isolated based on 3rd party applications. Try it and see for yourself.
If someone posts negative feedback by all means please state what went wrong etc over at 4wm so notes can be taken.

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...clip...In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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I am also interested to hear what kind of 'testing' you did.
Dymond is Actually Rock-Solid.

A quick point about "dogfood" since its been spun up with a somewhat bad connotation here.
M$ employees run the latest and greatest software from the development groups. They call it "eating their own dogfood". Its a term of endearment on the M$ campus. Every major M$ developer/presenter I spoke with at MEDC this year was running "dogfood" on their device. Generally, "dogfood" is a few point releases in advance of what gets sent to the masses.
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it. Case in point: check the Kaiser thread.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...

Black Dymond is the best Rom.....

I am using black 3.5 since yesterday and so far it has treated me well. I don't see any stability issues.
I have installed some spb programs like weather and some games and the ROM rocks.
I have been on black 2.5 before and that was stable as well. However dymond is noticeably much faster.
I have not tried any other ROMS besides these 2 so I cannot say which one I would favor over the other. I like black and sticking with for now.

I recently flashed the vp3G ROM after using Black 2.5 for about a month. Black 2.5 treated me very well, however I am happier with the vp3G (LSVW derivative). It is much faster and more polished than the Black 2.5 I was using(because it is newer, I suppose). I have been very excted about the 3.xx versions of Black but have yet to try them until I read through all the threads to see if it is a fit for me (3.0/3.1 didn't seem to be the right move). For now, vp3G/LSVW is an excellent ROM for me.
I'm running SPB Diary, MS VC 1.6, VOIP, IM+, SKTools, DinarSoft HandySwitcher, MOBITV, SettingSavior .94, and a bunch of other stuff. No problems AT ALL to report. Program Memory stays solid, device never freezes, and battery lasts the longest.
Hope this helps...

Black Dymond with C-Start : experiencing sync problem
Using Balck Dymond for 12h. Looks quite stable, not to mention the style. Thanks JJ
All functions work well (haven't tested 3G - China not deploying it yet ).
Most impressive is the performance of WiFi (compared to Black 3.01 and WM Hermes QS Edition) - power settings shoul be on "Best Performance", otherwise do not connects even putting the device next to BS
Found some conflict betwen C-Start and embodied input - haven't explored the issue yet.
Issue with synchronization: When the ROM was "virging" no problem synchronizing. Suspect installing C-Start, after the system runs for some time, there is some software conflict. Have followed all ActiveSync 4.5 troubleshooting advice, but looks like the issue is in the device. Next few days will try to install different Chinese characters software - hope it will work!
-- The same issue had with Black 3.1 + C-Start; the difference is that with Black 3.01 was able to etsablish connection between the PPC and the PC, was able to "browse" the PPC but no sync; with Dymond no connection at all
Hope will figure out some way arround with the Chinese characters

Sleuth255 said:
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it.
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Heh... I think some folks are wishing this "dogfood" came from Menu Foods rather than M$.
Not to mention anyone who's been in IT for any length of time knows a "shipping" version doesn't necessarily equate to a "good" version (can we all say Windows ME?). C'mon, I know y'all didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

I think vp3g rom is by far the best. I ve been playing with this rom since it 1st came out and i must say its Very stable, very BIG storage, very responsive, and the tie in of the cingular settings with this rom adds close to a perfect rom! My only gripe with lsvw rom base is "esmertec java" Opera mini sucks with it! But otherwise a great rom!

jasjamming said:
please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.

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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
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It's given me no hassles at all, aside from the WLAN problem when using WPA2 pre-shared key, which seems to be a problem in a few recent ROMs (Faria's being the exception here). It has the Cingular customization already done, and includes what I need and not what I don't need. I also like the inclusion of a working X-button. No additional CABs to install.

mcvosi said:
I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Well then,
Maybe you should have choose the word "Tried" rather saying something like 'in my "Testing" I found it to unstable.'
You tried it, you didn't actually do any 'testing.'
I was involved in the 'beta' and RC1, and still using it loaded full of apps, and there is NO instability at all.

cant say much about the others but...
I am running Dymond and no stability issues what s ever were detected unless:
You add on HTC X (doesn't matter what version - both Sucks) use alternatives like handyswitcher or others.
This is the ROM I had the longest uptime before SR!
I am running Pushmail (more than 200 email per day) with sms activity fairly high as well as phone calls that could probably fry my ... and still stability is not an issue.
only issue i am wondering about these days is what Radio Version is the best to work with...

I have actually found the same issues with every WM6 rom I have tried to date. I have loaded all of Kyphurs, a couple of LVSW's and Black 2.01 onwards.
I think everyone here knows that actual problems stem from third party apps and/or personal set up and the roms get blamed for the problems.
I also think we all know that a lot of people fall into the two main camps and will argue their rom is better than the other one.
I am on Dymond and havn't had a soft reset for the two days its been on my device - which for a cooked rom I reckon is pretty damn good - but I reckon from what I have read LVSW's latest is probably ok too...
You pays your money and you takes your choice --- oh except you dont pay any money - ITS FREE!

new telstra imate RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108

new
RUU_Hermes_DL_UK_3.62.305.5_6275_1.54.30.10_108_Ship.exe

I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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I couldn't find it on their site either - but I installed this and it is indeed an official Imate Telstra WM6 Pro rom. It's very fast too.

Please visit the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348435

simon_darley said:
I went to the imate website and no release for this that I could find.
Could you provide more details like when, where, how....
Screen shots, customisations, what is installed, memory and storage availability.
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Click here to download
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/JASJAMUPDAU.html#DNLD
Exe version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.exe
Zip version:
http://clubimate.com/jasjamsupport/ROM/Telstra_JASJAM_Upgrade.zip

Can i ask a noob question. Can we install this in HTC tytn ??

Hyins said:
Click here to download
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Hyins - you linked the realy old Telstra\Club Imate upgrade. The original Rom linked at the start of the thread is different and up to date.

This rom works and has the latest radio
This Rom works very well and has the latest radio!!!!

Does this ROM replace the SPL as well?

anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it

xternal said:
anyone else in australia installed this? Downloading now, but havent seen anything offical from telstra or imate about this. Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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Agreed. I installed the New radio out of it, and thats going strong, but i havent tested the full rom.

A SUPER DUPER Rom From Imate & Telstra
A super fine Rom without any call dropouts or hangs. Newest radio delivers optimum performance in connectivity and speed , just the ROM you are looking for ! Though the storage is less ( just 33.73MB ) but on deleting some unwanted games and programs you can push up storage. The details of ROM are : Windows Mobile6 Pro build 18125.0.4.2 ; Rom version 3.62.305.5
Rom date : 6th Nov 2007 ; Radio version : 1.54.30.10 ; Ext Rom : 3.62.305.116. I have been testing the ROM since last 2 Days and found it to be more superior than those cooked ones . It also contains the latest version of MS mobile Office 2007. It also has PV player for razor sharp video playback. Overall who ever has discovered this ROM must be a perfomance freak and not only applications freak.
Great job by sharing this fine ROM !!!!! Also Imate customers can upgrade to this ROM alongwith other users of Hermes 100 series ppcs.

So ugly, it has to be a genuine Telstra upgrade
Installed the new Telstra ROM and it does appear to be official except that it was so boring compared to cooked ROMs I have used from Custel and Black.
My evening got a lot more interesting after I flashed Schapps latest release over the top of the ugly Telstra one.
Of interest was a Telstra 5.5 cab in the extended ROM. Now that it's erased, silly me, I would like to know how to extract it from the installer to share.

i'm also in Australia and want to know more about this ROM. Does anyone know anything......?

I am installing new rom now will have a bit of a play and see how it goes

dont install this if you are in UK,its has weak signal reception and also often disconnect call half way through.now switch back to 1.47

xternal said:
Seems strange someone in Italy has it
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..hey nothing strange there.. caxio does work his magic all the time to bring us here the latest of the stock ROMs available all the time...

Have installed, and it seems stable and quick.
Note if you're not with Telstra (Australia) you'll probably need to change the band settings (GSM 900/1800 and UMTS 850).
I liked the Black roms, except I never got bluetooth issues resolved and it'd crash when answering calls via car kit. I stuck with TNT for a while as bluetooth worked fine, but unhappy it'd randomly crash on me every few days. Not good for a phone used for after-hours support. Most other ROMs would drop ActiveSync connection after just 10 minutes.
So far so good on this one, will add the (very few) apps I'm missing and see how it survives over the week.

I think im going to try and strip some of the stuff out of it, and see how it goes.
So far so good though. Seems nice and quick, stable and good phone connectivity.

I installed this yesterday and so far it's been great.
As others have said, not a lot of storage after installation (with my programs all installed I'm down to about 17 mb free).
Radio seems really good, however if you're in a fringe area it will chew your battery up. In CBD battery usage is very similar to 1.47.
I'm thinking of re-flashing this one and soft-resetting prior to the customisation (which is where most of the bloat comes from). This should improve the memory situation somewhat and as all the customisation cabs are on extented memory I can pick only the ones I need.

I'm lost

I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.

How many WM6.1 roms can we possibly create!?
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I completely agree! In the past I tried several, but ultimately stuck with the Schaps roms. I felt they were the best for me- had what I waned, were fast and stable. Now in this last month with WM6.1, there are so many, and they're all apparently the latest and the greatest. It's confusing too that every cook uses their own revision numbering system also.
I'm using Pays latest rom right now. It's what it claims to be (for me), fast and stable. Will continue with that until Schaps (hopefully soon) releases his final 4.40...
It seems everyone is working very hard to get their own perfect rom happening- but wouldn't it be better if we got more collaboration going between cooks, and worked together to create fewer, better roms? It would probably mean spending less time reinventing the wheel...
Just my thoughts- take them or leave them.

no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...

I use Pandora Naked 7.0b2, the last WM6 Naked rom before mattk_r moved on to WM6.1. It's very fast, very stable and comes with nothing extraneous.

miffymiffy said:
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
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I have to agree. I tried all the 6.1's as they were coming out and within a few hours had hard resets. Kept coming back to Berds rom (linked above).

Like Schap rom so much ...... so waiting for full release of Schap's WM6.1

Thank you guys for the input. I'm using Faria's 6.1 ROM. GREAT rom--very stable. Just two things with it though: there's a memory leak somewhere and voice command doesn't work well at all. So i'll see what ROM to flash. I also wanted a lite rom, but it never came out. Might try schap's 6.1 rom when it comes out.

Have you tried Matt's Pandora Naked Roms? They are clean/stable. I've been using his PN7.2 for awhile with VC & no issues. I haven't tried his 9.1 yet (wm6.1). I'm waiting for all the bugs to get worked out.
Chris

No flame, just a lot of opinion... Regardless of what anyone says, if you are looking for stability, speed, memory, etc... then you may want to stay with a WM6.0 rom... Although I have run and am currently running a WM6.1 variant, I would suggest to anyone that either doesn't have the time to flash repeatedly or isn't afflicted with RFWS to stay away from the 6.1 Roms for now...
How much time is actually spent on a rom to consider it stable...? What are the measurements that are taken to consider a rom fast and speedy...? I am not taking anything away from the cooks and wish I had the grey matter to cook roms myself, BUT unless a rom is tested over a period of time (not two weeks) and repeatedly subjected to beta testing how can one say it is stable... We constantly have roms that are released and then we become the Beta Testers (not complaining mind you, its what I live for)... But we do need to remember that this is primarily a development site and as such there will always be releases that some of us consider to be substandard or less than average... There are several factors that determine stability and how often one has to perform soft/hard resets is one of those factors...
Well, let me get off of the soapbox, I personally liked the Black Series of Roms that are no longer under development... And since they are not supported by the cook any longer (for personal reasons), I would recommend Schaps 4.x series of roms... not the WM6.1 variants, but the WM6.0 variants...
Hope this helps...

kareem9nba said:
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I think Schaps v4.01 is very stable. It can use MS VC very effectively plus it is not hifi version compared to the current ROMs. Just the basic necessary things which are required for a good ROM. I have used both his lite and full version. You can try it out.
The ROM thread is situated here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343942.
I have tried many kinds of different softwares also on this ROM which works pretty well and as desired. You can try it out.

Great to know. I've tried schaps rom actually and liked it but for some reason that i can't remember, i went to faria's. I think i might go back to this one now. Are there any highly anticipated roms coming up like dutty's 6.1 for the kaiser when everybody was talking about it before it came out?

I tried Schaps and just like last time, it freezes up a lot on me for some reason. Things don't go very smooth on it so i might try pay's rom or some other that i find stable. Any further recommendations will be highly accepted.

I was a great fan of Schaps roms but I kept having connectivity issues (ie: bluetooth, wi-fi) so i switched over to TNT roms. Love those. But it all depends on what you're looking for. For example, TNT roms have a lot of 3rd part apps that some people might not want. I personally haven't had any luck with voice command. Not even with the at&t rom. You gotta do your research. Check thru the first few pages of a rom thread that looks appealing to you and see what the immediate problems are and post your concerns/questions. Members here will be more than happy to help you. After all, that's what development is...isn't it?

Guys, I have gone done the same path as so many of you - trying each ROM as it came out. Before 6.1, I was stuck on TNT SE after being a major fan of Schaps for a long while. Now with 6.1, I have found CRC's to be the best. I dont use VC so cant comment.. Randomize is good, but no BT Explorer... have been operating with CRC for a few weeks now. Very rarely have to reset - only if I overload the thing and it locks up at 99% memory utilisation. Try it for yourself... The only comment I have beyond that is related to radio ROM. I have found that 6.1 seems to be more sensitive to which Radio Rom you are using. I have gone back to 1.43 and found it to be superior to 1.54! Be warned though, I have read in some of the other threads that an older radio ROM can cause the phone to freeze up, although I haven't experianced that at all.

RanDomIze Final Storm v2.10
I have tried almost every 6.1 ROM, this on definatly is the best one I have found.

Its Been a While - so which wm6.1?

Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?

Welcome back buddy! WM6.1 builds have a lot problems for now - freezing and HR - maybe depends on BS, but we don't know at the moment.
Maybe you will be successfull...

PDAVIET is the best!!

FARIA.R-32
I've been using it for few weeks now. And had absoultly no problems at all. Best rom so far (at least for me ).

I reakon CRC's ROMs are the best
Try the stable one if you rely on your phone, or the development one if you want to try the bleeding edge stuff...

I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now

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I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now
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I really wouldn't call 2 days stable... If I relied on my phone, I'd be looking for something that has run for weeks before calling it stable

I wouldnt go to 6.1
Many different custom ROMs of WM6.1 that I've tried.
Some crashed to a hard reset
Some frequently froze
Some froze/crashed/kill my dog
All for what? SMS Threading? And it's an ugly SMS threading by the way, and if you got more than a hundred SMS, it would take a while for it to load threaded SMS with each contact. All other features of 6.1 are either useless to common users (such as corporate security junk) or are transferable to 6.0 (such as Office 6.1)
I've went back and forth between 6.1 and 6.0 until sticking to 6.0
It's faster & stable (won't stay "stableR" because 6.1 is NOT stable)
See it this way
WM6.0 = XP
WM6.1 = Vista
One is older than the other, but all the newer version's stuff was transferable to the older version.
Though I wouldnt say WM6.1 has ANY improvement over the GUI like Vista did.
Newer doesnt necessarely mean better.
Eventually, a hardware device is old enough and newer "software" doesnt improve anything at all.
I'm still running mid-2005 Nvidia drivers on my laptop Most stable drivers for THAT laptop (as it's old).
Hermes is old

I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).

Oh that's easy - TNT.19199
The full version.
Only need to add FTouch SL
Simply the fastest and the most fully loaded ROM I've ever used.
(probably partially due to the X-button that actually terminates application process when you click it)
And it's fully loaded with things you can actually make use of...
I'm still finding new useful things to do with the apps it comes with.

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I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).
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I agree with you 100%
HOWEVER, while 19199 doesn't "hard reset", or crash under "CASUAL" use, it is very sensitive to "torture" use.
6.0 can take in a lot of crap, changing radio bands while turning off bluetooth and having Live Messenger trying to initiate a GPRS connection. 6.1 19199 would most likely just vomit, pass out on face first in the toilet bowl and wake up a while later feeling groggy.
Though it's better than 19209 which would end up overdosing (hard reset)
I dont have any concrete examples of how to stress test 19199 into bugging, but after running 19199 (including your 9.1 ROM, which is the last WM6.1 I tried). I defitively saw the difference between WM6.0 and what is considered to be "stablest" in the WM6.1 kind.
WM6.0 is much more responsive.

i've tried all 6.1 roms and they are excellent in all areas but one - the battery life. it's simply too short no matter what you do.
so, i went back to the best rom i've tried so far - K's final WM 6.0 - it's got the speed and battery life way better than any wm 6.1 rom out there

hi JJ
I am using from PDAviet the DVHa rom version 19209 in combination with radio 1.48. I am using my pushmail alot and the phone last 3 days!!
This is the best I ever had. I have tested nearly every rom in the last year (also black ). I'm running this combination a couple of weeks without a SR or HR!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385047&highlight=pdaviet
I want to test the new rom from DVHa but in that threat there a some people with HR issues!

JJ, glad to hear from you again. Hope all is OK with you. I have been using Pandora Naked ROM for a few months now and it is very stable. I have not had any hard reset so far. Worth a try.

jasjamming said:
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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speed: faria , it's a bit unstable(but you gotta see it at least once...
stability: pdaviet, clean and stable(fast as well)

Well, well! If it isn't the highly respected JJ! Notwithstanding your great contributions to this community I would direct you as I would any question about which is the "best"; do a seach in the topic titles with the word 'best' and you'll start to get a good idea.
As of the last couple of weeks I would definitely shortlist the ROMs based on the 19209 builds (i.e PDAViet and PDACorner and maybe try some of the newer PDAViet builds).
Let us know how your get on and how they fare against your once ubiquitous roms.

Nothing has been as smooth as black !!, as a noob i've been sticking with Shaps....Please post which one's you like the best after trying, Thanks JJ

jasjamming said:
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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Get back in #xda-mofos where you belong JJ, and where the **** is walshieau hiding?

Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers

Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers

Crashy Crashy Crashy ROM

Every ROM I get seems to crash
Never ever had crashes on the Kaiser so I was wondering why as I know you guys do a good job.
I have tried
Bxsteez Rhodium Lite & Sexy v2.1
miri 23017
EnergyROM_RHODIUM_20090914_StandardM2.5
ROMeOS3_WM65_1_04_23016_160909_PREMIUM_FINAL
Tom_Rhodium_Manila2.5_Build_23016_v1
Tom_Rhodium_Manila2.5_Build_23049_v1
Touch-IT Leo I_Rhodium
I have tried them both with the standard radio and with 4.46.25.24
At a loss really as the standard roms are no where near as nice as the custom's
Any idea's
Thanks
Graham

what are you doing when it crashes(if anything)?
What carrier are you with, what is the model of the phone?
ie.. my model is the T7373 (Tmobile)

Well, you DO know that Manila 2.5 is still beta, right? There are bugs with it.
Try downloading *more* ROMs with Manila 2.1. If you still continue to crash with those, I would suspect hardware issues (RAM or processor perhaps).

Avoid Manila 2.5 while it's still in development.
If you want stable, I recommend trying EnergyROM 20090922 (Standard).

Not a lot really, the touch flo crashes non stop or is very slow to respond after phone has been in stand by, also if slide to unlock has been on the phone will defiantly need a restart so I turned that off.
The Energy Rom is my current favourite and that needs restarting 2-3 times a day and freezes are so random.

Well it looks like he has tried 2 ROM's so far that are v2.1 Manila.
If he is getting the same result with both 2.1 and 2.5 where the phone is crashing, it may not be the ROM that is the issue.

What about the radio
Official Orange rom and official HTC don't crash at all although can slow at points.
Thanks
Graham

Graham,
Easiest option is to try the ROM I suggested, just to be sure - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
Failing that, could be hardware as others suggest.

Which one titainum or standard

graham535i said:
Which one titainum or standard
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I'm running Standard, which includes Manila 2.1 (very stable).

I am using the NRG Genesis ROM older version (30 August I think) - I don't use Manila (although I think 2.1 is included) as I use MobileShell, and I think I have soft reset once since I flashed the ROM (and that was to apply some changes I made).
In due course I will upgrade to the latest for theodd tweaks but this is the most stable combination of phone and ROM i have ever had.
(I should add that I have not tried any of the other 23016 based ROMs yet and so am not saying they are not as stable - I upgraded to fix bluetooth issues and have not felt the need or had the time to flash any others)

Flashing now with standard, what's the difference with Titanium

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Flashing now with standard, what's the difference with Titanium
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The ROM thread I linked has lots of info. However, 'Titanium' is the name given to the Windows 6.5 homescreen plugin. Many people prefer Manila over Titanium.
I should add that this ROM is only an example of a stable one. There are many other stable ROMs from other chefs, but in your case, you need to eliminate the possibility of hardware. Also, avoid installing any additional programs for a day or two, just in case there's some software conflict causing your problems.
Good luck.

Its already faster and already appears more stable well speedy

Crashy roms
... I also use Standard Energy rom from 17092009. It is rather stable, but consumes battery ower to much as per me. I set up screen backlighting to auto and switched off pushing of emails through exchange server. Now it lasts about 12 hours (previously 5).