ok i broke the touchscreen on my 02 xda11s. and i would like to know where to get one for relitivley cheap. any help would be greatly appriciated. also i would like to know if it is hard to dismantle. some pics would be nice but i dont want to ask to much.
thanks very much
paul sinclair.
Re Blue Angel Touch Screen
I also did the same with mine two weeks ago (Cracked the screen)
Took out the left hand screw of my XDA 2s and then took it back to O2 shop and made out that it was because the screw fell out that the screen broke I know its a bit naughty but I got mine replaced for a new one
Naughty indeed. i like the way you think though. the prob is i kinda know the fella in the shop. does it have to be the shop that i bought it in.?
craked screen
Dont think it matters as long as its a o2 shop (in my case)
I just took it to the shop with the warranty 2 weeks ago as i had droped the XDA i took out the top left hand screw and said because the screw was loose it made the screen crack when i touched it with the stylus.
They replaced it under the warranty for a nice brand new one.
Now got 2 batteries and 2 chargers.
mabye i'll just do that. i was gonna get a screen of e-bay. but your way sounds better
thanks
No probs good luck but remember that it is possiable that this could happen (Screw coming out screen cracks) So dont let O2 fob you off and say it is not coverd by the warranty because the situation can happen.
mine is cracked too, but i have to get one off ebay cause it's out of warranty
(only £20 though so not as bad as when i broke the actual lcd - that was £90)
Was the screen hard to replace?
the lcd was kinda easy, and that involved removing the touch screen so i guess not (my new touchscreen hasn't arrived yet)
did you get your touch screen ?was it easy to install ?
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did you get your touch screen ?was it easy to install ?
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I replaced my touchscreen (without LCD) by myself. It is not very hard. You have to solder 4 small cables. If you can handle the tiny screws and aren't afraid soldering 4 cables onto a 7 mm flatband cable. No Problem.
It is a little bit tricky to open the device because of the slider. The two cables of the slider are just plugged in onto the mainboard, so you can just pull them out with a screwdriver.
Plz help me........
Hello i m using O2 Xda IIs { Also Called HTC Blueangel }.
The problem is tht the strip on the back of the display { the strip which is broad } which joints with the board have a small scratch on it.... bcoz of which my display screen flicks n goes blank and many times touch screen doesnt works....
so plz can u help me with it....! wht shld i do ?
Will be waiting for ur reply.... bye tc
Hope u will help me... Thank You
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I replaced my touchscreen (without LCD) by myself. It is not very hard. You have to solder 4 small cables. If you can handle the tiny screws and aren't afraid soldering 4 cables onto a 7 mm flatband cable. No Problem.
It is a little bit tricky to open the device because of the slider. The two cables of the slider are just plugged in onto the mainboard, so you can just pull them out with a screwdriver.
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can you tell me where you bought your touch screen?
BrainWashed said:
I replaced my touchscreen (without LCD) by myself. It is not very hard. You have to solder 4 small cables. If you can handle the tiny screws and aren't afraid soldering 4 cables onto a 7 mm flatband cable. No Problem.
It is a little bit tricky to open the device because of the slider. The two cables of the slider are just plugged in onto the mainboard, so you can just pull them out with a screwdriver.
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Can you give some hints on how you disassembled the display.
Related
Is there a guide to how this device comes apart?
I remember there was one for the xda II but is there one for the blueangel?
Many thanks
Taking it apart is no problem, I've already done that. What I miss is the replacement screen... :?
2 screws on the sides, 4 under the battery. Remove cover, remove the keyboard connector on the side and the screws that hold the PCB. Slide screen up, lift the PCB carefully and dicsonnect the 2 flat cable connectors.
Then remove 4 screws on the screen part, 2 at the top and 2 under holes at the bottom.
Any idea where to find the screen?
screen
you can get a sreen here http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
the cost is $250 delevered anywhere in the world hope this helps i know its not cheap. but this is the only source that i have found.
or http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/xda.htm
offer a full repair service but im unsure for there cost as u need to email for quote.
anyone know where i can get a replacement case? I dropped my sx66 twie already and it is pretty banged up.
kilrah said:
Any idea where to find the screen?
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Which one:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
If you need 60H00018
http://www.parts4pdas.de/cgi/websal...fc}{md5/0ca94eea8a008b08e23c10da58a8679c/md5}
try to call this company
Code:
SRS GmbH
PDA Service Center
Kilianstädter Strasse 48
61137 Schöneck
TEL. 06187 9064-0
FAX. 06187 9064-11
E-Mail: [email][email protected][/email]
Internet: [url]www.srsgmbh.de[/url]
Oops thanks for that, I wasn't aware of the 2 different ones. Haven't finished dismantling mine cause I miss the smaller screwdriver for the 2 top screws of the screen part...
Will try and find one.
You can order the touch screen for $80 ( included shipping)
visit www.goldenbyte.com
Reseller wanted!!!!
or You can email to me at [email protected]
You can buy the screen for $80, www.goldenbyte.com
kilrah said:
Taking it apart is no problem, I've already done that. What I miss is the replacement screen... :?
2 screws on the sides, 4 under the battery. Remove cover, remove the keyboard connector on the side and the screws that hold the PCB. Slide screen up, lift the PCB carefully and dicsonnect the 2 flat cable connectors.
Then remove 4 screws on the screen part, 2 at the top and 2 under holes at the bottom.
Any idea where to find the screen?
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apex laptops are stupidly expensive
any one got the disassemble in pics by any chance. I wanna make sure i d it right without n e more costly mistakes. (the first costly mistake being drunkenly dropping it )
Thanks
Rich
Hmm, finally finished the disassembly (how stupid I am, had forgotten I actually had the suitable screwdriver bit somewhere in my mess)...
I have the Toppoly TD035STEC1 screen. Still trying to find a supplier, the one mentioned above does not really seem of confidence to me... :?
I might take a few pics when I have time :wink:
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Still trying to find a supplier, the one mentioned above does not really seem of confidence to me... :?
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Their webpage says now "not in stock"
I think another one was
http://www.handy21.de
http://www.handy21.de
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Wow, I could get another entire second-hand unit for that price :?
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I might take a few pics when I have time :wink:
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Did you ever get the chance to take those pics Kilrah, If you did I would be very interested to see them, I'm sure they would be of intrest to others too.
Cheers
yep they would, still looking for the cheapest supplier of the acutal LCD as well
n e one found cheaper than $225 http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
which is around £131 with the current conversion rates..
Alright... so the other day i take my sx66 out of my pocket, only to see the touch screen cracked... the phone still works, most of the time, and you can still use like half of the screen. So i need to know, how hard is it to actually change out touch screens. Ive heard it is difficult, and would really like to know how to do it.
Thanks
-Greg
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Alright... so the other day i take my sx66 out of my pocket, only to see the touch screen cracked... the phone still works, most of the time, and you can still use like half of the screen. So i need to know, how hard is it to actually change out touch screens. Ive heard it is difficult, and would really like to know how to do it.
Thanks
-Greg
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We can repair the system for you. We do not have DIY kits for the TS repair though.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...epairs-Full+Service+Repairs~item~XDA-TS03.htm
wow, wayyyy to expensive... you can almost buy another unit for that... i mean, i can buy the touch screen for ~$40, and do it myself. i heard it requires some soldering, and what else?
bigbluemnm said:
wow, wayyyy to expensive... you can almost buy another unit for that... i mean, i can buy the touch screen for ~$40, and do it myself. i heard it requires some soldering, and what else?
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You can do it yourself. We've had people do it before. Some are successful, most end up causing more damage and have to ship it in anyway.
Here are some tips:
First, double-check the new TS. There are few different mfg of the TS. Some that we evaluated have fibers & dirt between the layers of the TS.
Be very careful with the flex cable coming off of the LCD. It runs through the slide mechanism and tears easily. You'll need to remove the LCM assembly from the top cover/slide assembly.
Use a soldering iron to desolder the TS cable from the back of the flex cable of the LCD. Use a xacto knife or something similiar to seperate the TS from the frame of the LCD. Usually the TS will shatter during this process. If you push the blade in too far, you'll scratch the top of the LCD which cannot be repaired. If you get the glue from the seal of the TS onto the LCD, you'll need to use 99.9% alcohol to clean the top of the LCD using a microfibre cloth. Having tweezers handy helps.
When you go to install the TS, start at the top and then slowly lower it onto the frame of the LCD. Do not push it all the way down. You'll probably have several bits of dust and debris that has been attracted to the TS. You'll need to have moisture free air to gently blow out the dust before pressing down and sealing the TS. We actually use grade 5 nitrogen to blow out the area.
When resoldering the cable do not apply too much heat since the mylar of the cable melts easily.
Hopefully with these tips and others on the board, you'll be successful.
thet doesnt sound hard at all. last night i already took it all apart, and didnt mess up anything. so hopefully i can get a new ts and get it back on without damaging anything. thanks so much for the info.
I got something really weird..
I have opened the unit and checked the configuration..
The old TS versus the new TS is totaly opposite?
Old 1 2 3 4
New 4 3 2 1
Pin configuration..
I manage to hook it up but it won't get pass the alignment screen.. is there a way to re-teach it?
Please help..
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I got something really weird..
I have opened the unit and checked the configuration..
The old TS versus the new TS is totaly opposite?
Old 1 2 3 4
New 4 3 2 1
Pin configuration..
I manage to hook it up but it won't get pass the alignment screen.. is there a way to re-teach it?
Please help..
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If it will not align, then the pins are hooked up out of order or the TS is defective.
The interesting thing, there are different touchscreens, have different pinouts. The most important thing (from my experience) is to connect pairs properly. So, you have on touchscreen top, bottom (vertical pair), left and right (horizontal pair). If you'll look at touchscreen, you'll see how your cable is wired to glass/film. At first, you definitely need to put pairs properly. vertical to vertical (on board) and horizontal to horizontal. If you'll mix up wires - you'll fail calibration procedure.
By the way: if you'll mix up top and bottom or left and right - touchscreen will work and pass calibration. Of course, calibration values in registry will be hmm... other, than usual, but touchscreen will work.
If you have multimeter, you can easily check your tuuchscreen. Horizontal pair should be 250..400 Ohm, vertical - 300..800 Ohm. If your touchscreen is not tapped, there should be infinity (not connected) resistance between pairs.
Where can you buy replacement touchscreens or housings?
ebay. search for all the different models and use worlds like broke, dead, fix repair, etc. And if you buy the right touch screen then you don't need to do any soldering. It's a really simple job. The hardest part is the disasembly, but just take your time and for god sakes tape all your screws to a white peice of paper and label them :roll: i can't tell you how many integral screws i've lost doing stuff like this.
alright, so im getting ready to buy a new TS... the SN of my phone is... HT509D615597. so what TS would i need?
this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...10024651851&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
or this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ryProximity&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
Thanks!!
Using my htc device suddenly touch screen went off and i could'nt use the stylus at all. The strange thing is that all of the other keys are working good. I tried hard reset the device but nothing happened. Now im stuck in the screen "tap the sreen to set up your windows mobile based device. Can anyone please help? Before the appearence of the above problem i was using google maps, if this helps.
many thanks
Does t have a crack in it? If so then it needs changing, if not then probably the ribbon has come out. Is it under warranty?
no there is nt any crack! everything was good and suddenly while i was tapping to check some maps, stopped.
Sorry for asking but ribbon is that thing above the screen? Is it possible to come out so soon? (6 months). and finally does the warranty covers ribbon change?
Sorry for the above questions but i really dont know what to do!
many thanks
call the company where you buy it from and ask them
savrol said:
no there is nt any crack! everything was good and suddenly while i was tapping to check some maps, stopped.
Sorry for asking but ribbon is that thing above the screen? Is it possible to come out so soon? (6 months). and finally does the warranty covers ribbon change?
Sorry for the above questions but i really dont know what to do!
many thanks
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If it's only 6 mths old it shoud be under warranty, so take it back to the place you ought it.
If you are determined to try to fix it yourself you have to do the following.
Remove the battery cover & battery.
Remove the 4 small screws
Remove the back-case by running your fingernail round the gap (hard 1st time then easy after that)
Remove 4 more screws
Remove front-case from the middle
Remove the motherboard assembly from the front case and unplug the screen/digitiser assembly, carefully pull that off the motherboard (again not easy 1st time).
You will now see the small digitiser ribbon at the bottom coming off the digitiser and disappearing into the bottom of the screen. It's very easy to take out and not easy to put back in. I use some flat-bladed tweezers to do mine but sometimes it takes a couple of tries. Obviously it's much easier if you are fitting a new digitiser because it's not fixed to the screen like yours will be. If you try to remove the digitiser chances are you will crack it. I re-fitted mine after removing my broken one by using thin cut strips of double-sided tape.
Before you do anything else, just clean with sharp knive or razor between the screen and the cover.You will be surprised how much rubish is is in there.
this things are keeping the screen pressed.
Hope it helps
many thanx 4 the instrustions guys. i'll try that. if everything ok i'll inform you. if not i'll give you my bank account number to deposit money in order to buy a new one.
many thanx again
i've got this big ass crack on my display last night. the touchfunction dosn't work so I can't press my PINcode to access the telephone. how, where and how much can i replace the display?
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i've got this big ass crack on my display last night. the touchfunction dosn't work so I can't press my PINcode to access the telephone. how, where and how much can i replace the display?
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The best price I've seen for the touchscreen is on ebay. But, there are a few catches...
First issue: There are two different LCD/touchscreen assemblies that were used on the angel. One is made by Sony, the other by Toppoly. The touchscreen or LCD from one can not be used on the other due to programming and physical layout.
Second issue (and this is probably the biggest): The way they touch screen and the LCD are connected is a major pain in the arse to fix. It's a plastic ribbon cable that has been soldered to a point on another ribbon cable. Unless you are very good at soldering, it's not something I'd attempt due to the largish chance of melting the cables and making things worse, not to mention the potential to hurt the LCD itself.
If you look in the wiki under the hacks and tweaks, the Technical Stuff (including disassembly) link has two pages to look at:
Blue Angel/PPC6600 Disassembling Procedure with Pictures
Blue Angel Spare Screen
While they are not the best pictures, the last image under the disassembling section shows the ribbon cables I'm referring to, and the touchscreen assembly picture for the spare screen page shows a sony touchscreen ribbon cable detached from the LCD cable, which will show the connection points I'm referring to.
I've got this exact issue as well on my O2 branded angel. Due to the cost of a new LCD/touchscreen assembly (almost the cost of a working angel), I'm considering trying to solder a new touchscreen. If I ruin it, well, I've got parts for the next one I get.
I replaced a touch sreen today, its not that bad if you have soldered before. Unfortunatly the screen i got of ebay is not perfect and will need replacing. I have contacted the seller to see if he will send me another one.
Its worth doing!
Gary
Dimlow_uk said:
I replaced a touch sreen today, its not that bad if you have soldered before. Unfortunatly the screen i got of ebay is not perfect and will need replacing. I have contacted the seller to see if he will send me another one.
Its worth doing!
Gary
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I've soldered plenty of times (a bit out of practice tho), but never something like that.
Any tips and suggestions? My main worry is melting the ribbon cables.
Well, no real tips, just take you time and don't rush it. The plastic can stand quite a bit of heat, i never managed to melt it, The job looks harder that it realy is. you will need a steady hand! Also , taping the connector down before you solder helps.
Gary
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Well, no real tips, just take you time and don't rush it. The plastic can stand quite a bit of heat, i never managed to melt it, The job looks harder that it realy is. you will need a steady hand! Also , taping the connector down before you solder helps.
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Ok, that's good to know. The plastic didn't look all that durable, but if it's stouter than it looks, I may check with the house controller (aka CFO aka my wife ) and see if we can spare the dosh to pick one up.
I have to be careful as she wants it once it's fixed!
how do i separate touch screen and lcd? i only need to solder the new touch screen, right?
any help? thanks
pVilaça said:
how do i separate touch screen and lcd? i only need to solder the new touch screen, right?
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There is a disassembly guide in the wiki.
What kind of screwdrivers are needed to remove those tiny screws on the LCD/ digitizer casing. I have 2 SX66's with broken LCDs and one with a broken digitizer. Time for some repairs.
jdc said:
The best price I've seen for the touchscreen is on ebay. But, there are a few catches...
First issue: There are two different LCD/touchscreen assemblies that were used on the angel. One is made by Sony, the other by Toppoly. The touchscreen or LCD from one can not be used on the other due to programming and physical layout.
Second issue (and this is probably the biggest): The way they touch screen and the LCD are connected is a major pain in the arse to fix. It's a plastic ribbon cable that has been soldered to a point on another ribbon cable. Unless you are very good at soldering, it's not something I'd attempt due to the largish chance of melting the cables and making things worse, not to mention the potential to hurt the LCD itself.
If you look in the wiki under the hacks and tweaks, the Technical Stuff (including disassembly) link has two pages to look at:
Blue Angel/PPC6600 Disassembling Procedure with Pictures
Blue Angel Spare Screen
While they are not the best pictures, the last image under the disassembling section shows the ribbon cables I'm referring to, and the touchscreen assembly picture for the spare screen page shows a sony touchscreen ribbon cable detached from the LCD cable, which will show the connection points I'm referring to.
I've got this exact issue as well on my O2 branded angel. Due to the cost of a new LCD/touchscreen assembly (almost the cost of a working angel), I'm considering trying to solder a new touchscreen. If I ruin it, well, I've got parts for the next one I get.
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Hey MATE!! damn why didnt i ask this before!!!
i have the o2 xda IIs.. same problem, display works fine.. but tapping doesnt! after it was dropped!
Now, i got a guy to get a spare MDA T-mobile (blueangel) which doesnt work, but its lcd/touchscreen works.. i connected that LCD to my O2, it didnt WORK! how can i differentiate b/w the two LCDS?
i mean, how can i know that the LCD is made by Toppoly or Sony?! that'd be a great HELP!
SyNcViEw said:
i mean, how can i know that the LCD is made by Toppoly or Sony?! that'd be a great HELP!
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Part numbers on the back or the cable design.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
TD035STED1
this is the code written behind my LCD. I have the O2 XDA IIs.
Is there anything else I need to look at aswell? or should I just buy a LCD with that code?!
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TD035STED1
this is the code written behind my LCD. I have the O2 XDA IIs.
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Interesting. Looks like the LCD used varies depending on when the phone was made.
My O2 has the Sony LCD.
SyNcViEw said:
Is there anything else I need to look at aswell? or should I just buy a LCD with that code?!
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Cables and the wiki. The link I posted shows the difference between the two.
And yes, you will have to get the same LCD assembly/glass cover as what you have now. The two are not interchangeable.
There is a tool set you can purchase at radioshack that has the proper tip. Its a cheaply made tool but does the job. It is one of the kits with many bits. It would be the star tip. You can also order the tool online. I've taken mine apart a few times. Its sort of a pain but gets easier the more times you do it (replaced my screen three times). I have however, never been able to get the touch to work again because I can't really see how I would be able to solder such a fine ribbon. Ive had my mogul for almost a year and if my memory serves me the metallic strips are only about an 1/8th of an inch thick or less. I got lazy and put a piece of tape across the ribbon and put a small amount of glue to hold it down. Still didnt work. Didn't really expect it to either, but it was worth a shot. I turned it into insurance said I lost it and ended up with a broken 6600 and when I called to complain they sent me a mogul. So it's been awhile but I loved the phone. Hope this helps out.
dont scare the people
it can be replaced in 15 minutes with proper tools (screwdrivers)
i ve found some russian manual with pictures how to disasemble the BA (just look for it on the net) and its very easy, no need for soldering
there are 2 versions of displays, one have silver ribbon and the other have golden
when you opet your BA you ll see the display and the ribbon, also there is serial number of the display so you can check it too... all BA displays on the ebay have info about the ribbon and the serial number
I bought it for about 30$ and works perfectly, as original one...
buy digitizer and screen in one piece
you have to be total noob to have problems with changing of the display, so go for it !
If you are planning to replace the digitiser YES you do need to some fine soldering, all you need is the correct soldering iron tip for fine soldering and it is possible, done it about 4 times so far and everytime I promise myself not to brake it again but hahaha,
You can buy the LCD + digitiser together if you are unable to do soldering,
I use a razor which i took out from my shaver and thats what I use to seperate digitiser from lcd.
There are very cheap digitiser panels on EBAY, However some of these are not so good and ( digitiser is a 2 layer glass assy.) sometimes little area of this 2 layers stick together making touch screen non responsive.
Alternative is look out for spares, repairs sales if the screen is good buy it replace it, if you are a novice when it comes to these things, just take your time and dont rush it, even if it helps make little notes when you are opning the device as it ll make it easy when it comes to puting it back together.
And if you can get your hands on one keep a spare screen
Im sooo sad
I just cracked my screen I really hope I get a replacement cus I got more attached to my BA ever since I found out I could upgrade it. I thought it was not a biggie crashing it because I have dropped so many times and nothing happened but today something happened...
screen is 30$ at ebay, and no need to be sad, in few days it can be fixed
Recently my play with no recent modification + stock kernel + treated always with care started to light the screen less than normal (but still working) and now the screen is totally black, it only vibrates pressing the power button.
I tried flashtool many times but nothing.
I searched in the forum and probably is a trouble with the flex cable (also cause sliding sometimes changed the intensity of screen's light), but how can I be sure that is exactly this piece? Also I'm not so good at taking apart phones (but i'll try if i'll be almost sure that is the flex cable)...
No warranty (too old) and I don't know how much i'll pay at sony center...
I was always afraid about the slider cause too shaky in my opinion.
"sliding sometimes changed the intensity of screen's light"
Most definitely your flex cable. It needs to be changed.
Yeah... I only have to cross my fingers cause if it's not the cable I don't really know what could be...
Is there a way in case that works to increase the new flex cable's life? I don't really want to fight with this anymore...
Get a new phone.
chery2k said:
Get a new phone.
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I'll miss the gamepad and all emulators too much...
But surely i'm not going to spend a lot of money on the play.
Frankieee said:
I'll miss the gamepad and all emulators too much...
But surely i'm not going to spend a lot of money on the play.
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Black screen is a sign the flex cable broke. On the other hand by the time you replace something else might of broke. If you saw a disassebly video on the xperia play you will literally take the whole thing a apart including the gamepad.
Good luck while replacing flex cable.
I changed it on my phone and on another 2 of my friends, it is not very easy to do, but still better than trash your phone
I can give you little tips to make it working longer as I did on mine.
PLACE A STICKER ON A CABLE on one or on both sides, you can cut a sticker to make it fit the most to cable and you can glue edges if needed. It is good to prevent from scratching and breaking cable caused by sliding phone.
Tips while you repairing your phone:
When you are going to put Flex cable on its place, you should perfectly fit that three little 'tails' to its holes if you don't your display will touch a digitizer and make a spots on your screen.
And after you connect flex cable with motherboard try to press the cable the most you can 'under the motherboard' because flex cable is getting a damage if you don't do this.
Now i have time to replace the flex so i'll try and see if the phone will work.
Is adhesive tape good inside the phone? Or is insulating tape (that is thicker than adhesive tape...) better? Or other/nothing?
PS: Did it! The phone works good :good: