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First, just wanted to say thanks to all that have donated their time, brains and energy for all the updates and suggestions. I think it's definitely worth a paypal donation even if it's only 10 bucks.
Second, I'm surprised (not sure why though) at the lack of using the search button. Sometimes it takes some digging but generally with enough of it, the answer is there.
Okay, now for my stupid question. (Yes, I did do a search first... )
I've made the tweaks I wanted to do and I've backed up my system. My question is, if I do a ROM upgrade and then do a restore, will the restore put my tweaks back in it or do I have to start all over?
Thanks,
Mark
PS. Obviously everyone has an opinions but on average, was it worth doing the 1.37 ROM upgrade?
what kind of backup did you do? what ROM are you flashing to?
racerx_ said:
what kind of backup did you do? what ROM are you flashing to?
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I used Sprite backup and I've got 1.35.456.3 WWE and I was looking at the 1.37 ROM upgrade for my Diamond.
Sers,
it is good to see somebody new here who follows the rules and searches!! There's really a lack in that for the past weeks ( especially since diamond's release ) !
I dont know what tweaks you did especially, but generally registry tweaks etc. gets lost if you flash a new rom.
You could even back up your registry but I wouldn't recommend that because in case of an update there will be some changes in reg before.
If dont want to install all your apps ever again try SASHIMI - that's an customizable auto installer for apps and maybe reg-tweaks too!
regards
demacus said:
Sers,
it is good to see somebody new here who follows the rules and searches!! There's really a lack in that for the past weeks ( especially since diamond's release ) !
I dont know what tweaks you did especially, but generally registry tweaks etc. gets lost if you flash a new rom.
You could even back up your registry but I wouldn't recommend that because in case of an update there will be some changes in reg before.
If dont want to install all your apps ever again try SASHIMI - that's an customizable auto installer for apps and maybe reg-tweaks too!
regards
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I know what you mean. I read all 50 pages and if I had to read one more time where can I get this program, how do I install this, blah, blah, blah... wow, I can see how it gets frustrating for those that have a) the knowledge already b) have posted the answer 1000 times.
I understand that sometimes you just don't feel like chasing something down but for basic questions... they need to search.
As far as my mods, they're simple. I did the battery one (disableling auto-attach) and #1 on the list.
Both are easy to reinstall.
I guess my question was if I use Sprite to back up programs and then do a ROM update, using Sprite to reinstall those programs won't affect the new ROM, will it?
I'm assuming Sprite backups programs, not registry changes too.
I ask because I don't want to backup with Sprite, do the ROM update and then use Sprite and have it put the old registry back into it.
Or does Sprite copy the registry also?
Thanks,
Mark
orangecrush said:
I know what you mean. I read all 50 pages and if I had to read one more time where can I get this program, how do I install this, blah, blah, blah... wow, I can see how it gets frustrating for those that have a) the knowledge already b) have posted the answer 1000 times.
I understand that sometimes you just don't feel like chasing something down but for basic questions... they need to search.
As far as my mods, they're simple. I did the battery one (disableling auto-attach) and #1 on the list.
Both are easy to reinstall.
I guess my question was if I use Sprite to back up programs and then do a ROM update, using Sprite to reinstall those programs won't affect the new ROM, will it?
I'm assuming Sprite backups programs, not registry changes too.
I ask because I don't want to backup with Sprite, do the ROM update and then use Sprite and have it put the old registry back into it.
Or does Sprite copy the registry also?
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi Mark, welcome to xda-dev,
Sprite Backup copy the registry also.
Some apps are key in the registry to operate properly.
That is why you must avoid making a restore of your old ROM on your new ROM.
yeah its not recommended.. unless you're updating to a newer version of the same ROM, provided the chef hasn't done new registry tweaks.. or your old registry will reverse the new tweaks.. SASHIMI is recommended for sure..
welcome new person
no question is silly......unless its been asked many times before.
enjoy your diamond and have fun in this forum!
Thanks guys.... I'll buy the other program instead of using sprite.
Much appreciated.
Mark
Does anyone know if it is possible to take an entire backup image of your HD rom so you can later restore from it? I guess this would be like making a ROM backup from your device that you could later burn back to the device as a restore.
It's common when screwing around with theme hacks to stuff manilla and then have to go back to reburning a rom and setting it back up again. I saaw there's tools that try to backup/restore settings but it would be nice to be able to restore from a complete device state (kind of like using Ghost to backup/restore a Windows desktop image).
From my very noob knowledge I'm wondering if you can use the rom tools to do something like this (tools for cooking the roms, the RUU tools used for loading the roms on the device and HSPL/SPL/USPL, etc)...?
nope, sorry mate, there are no noob tools around for backing up.
Only things like PPCPimbackup for backing up your contacts, calendar, text messages, custom folders, and more.
You could also use SASHIMI. It can be very difficult to use it, but if you only want programs installed and your email configured automagically, then it's quite easy. Just watch the first two demonstrations on youtube.
Seriously, only play with your phone if you know how to fix a broken one. Or make sure you have enough cash to just buy a new one
thanks - all good advice. although have to say the tutorials and advice here is ample for you to experiment in an educated way. great site.
so nobody is doing entire rom backups except for the top l33ts eh? I could understand why based on the fact these are not just mini pc's...whole different ball game
cheers
Sprite Backup???
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Sprite Backup???
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Hey now that other product they do "SpriteClone" looks like it is exactly what I'm after;
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-clone
...albeit it's $300 because it's designed for corporate/enterprise. Thanks for that link...wonder if anyone knows of a product like that designed for personal use?
SPB Backup is the best
I usually use it to restore all my files and unstalled softwares when changing the ROM
BUT
the new ROM should be of the same type as the older one, i.e., if you are on COM2 upgrading the ROM should be to a COM2 type too and so on
Thanks - SPB Backup looks like an affordable yet sturdy solution. I guess whatr you mean about matching ROM's is fine provided you are restoring to the same rom/hardware you backed up from?
I think it would be very useful to have available a tool which could dump to the sd card the rom that is currently on the phone, all settings, pim data, etc. and make so all you have to do is flash the rom and when its done, everything is as it was. Kind of like making restore points on your pc. Currently it seems people are using a combination of this to do that, that to do this, and there is a kinda steep learning curve for new users, and experienced users are still taking 1/2 hr to an hr to set everything up after flashing and it seems every chef has thier preferred autoinstall stuff cooked in. I would be willing to donate $50 to author of a working tool such as I have described but it would have to restore everything, just t29, flash the b/u rom and ur in business, and it would have to be noob friendly at least for the most part as this tool would be a preferred method for newer users. I think such a tool would make experimentation with apps and modifications, rom building/testing much safer and faster for people just to flash back to a stable rom all set up if something doesnt go right. I know theres some seriously smart people here at xda, hopefully some of you could look into creating a tool that would benifit many people, and hopefully more people would be willing to donate for such a tool.
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I think it would be very useful to have available a tool which could dump to the sd card the rom that is currently on the phone, all settings, pim data, etc. and make so all you have to do is flash the rom and when its done, everything is as it was. Kind of like making restore points on your pc. Currently it seems people are using a combination of this to do that, that to do this, and there is a kinda steep learning curve for new users, and experienced users are still taking 1/2 hr to an hr to set everything up after flashing and it seems every chef has thier preferred autoinstall stuff cooked in. I would be willing to donate $50 to author of a working tool such as I have described but it would have to restore everything, just t29, flash the b/u rom and ur in business, and it would have to be noob friendly at least for the most part as this tool would be a preferred method for newer users. I think such a tool would make experimentation with apps and modifications, rom building/testing much safer and faster for people just to flash back to a stable rom all set up if something doesnt go right. I know theres some seriously smart people here at xda, hopefully some of you could look into creating a tool that would benifit many people, and hopefully more people would be willing to donate for such a tool.
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The problem is that when you backup program items, it also backs up the registry entries, and those entries may vary between ROMS. I use SPB Backup on my system, but ONLY restore to the same ROM version - to avoid this very issue.
The absolute safest way to flash a new ROM is to use activesync to backup your contacts, emails, and schedule (plus mobile shortcuts), and then flash. Then manually install each of your programs onto the phone. This ensures that your phone will be setup to match the OS. Then restore your contacts, etc, by using activesync again.
There are various solutions to get around this (I use XDA_UC myself), but that requires some reading and knowledge.
stevedebi said:
The problem is that when you backup program items, it also backs up the registry entries, and those entries may vary between ROMS. I use SPB Backup on my system, but ONLY restore to the same ROM version - to avoid this very issue.
The absolute safest way to flash a new ROM is to use activesync to backup your contacts, emails, and schedule (plus mobile shortcuts), and then flash. Then manually install each of your programs onto the phone. This ensures that your phone will be setup to match the OS. Then restore your contacts, etc, by using activesync again.
There are various solutions to get around this (I use XDA_UC myself), but that requires some reading and knowledge.
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Right, I understand about reg entries not matching between roms, I'm saying to restore the same rom that was backed up. That way, if you installed a app, wanted to try a new rom, made some change or whatever that made the rom unusable, you could just restore that rom to the last stable configuration that you backed up. You could have the rom on your sd and have a stable rom to flash back to anytime, so you dont have to restore everything anytime you screw up your phone and must HR. Since I have had my TP2, I have had to HR many times, caused by messin with stuff trial and error style, I think it would be a nice safety net, to be able to flash back to something stable, all set up the way it was when the backup was made. Then alls you would have to do is get your rom all set up once, and remember to back it up.
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Right, I understand about reg entries not matching between roms, I'm saying to restore the same rom that was backed up. That way, if you installed a app, wanted to try a new rom, made some change or whatever that made the rom unusable, you could just restore that rom to the last stable configuration that you backed up. You could have the rom on your sd and have a stable rom to flash back to anytime, so you dont have to restore everything anytime you screw up your phone and must HR. Since I have had my TP2, I have had to HR many times, caused by messin with stuff trial and error style, I think it would be a nice safety net, to be able to flash back to something stable, all set up the way it was when the backup was made. Then alls you would have to do is get your rom all set up once, and remember to back it up.
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Oh, for THAT I recommend SPB Backup. It isn't free, but it does a good job. But it would not contain the flash contents, and all bets are off if you are attempting to overwrite a newer ROM. What I do is re-flash the ROM that matches the backup, and THEN restore the SPB backup file.
can someone direct me to a way that i can extract my google information from a data.img so that i can put that in my newer rom that gives me a "cant establish connection with server" because i cant seem to get things working when i flash new...and when i do an advance restore and choose the data.img from my old account, my google works perfectly with great connection but my youtube or anything with videos dont work....
or someone atleast kno a more active community? i have asked so many questions here and there isnt really anyone active or they probably dont care..
First of all, that question isn't entirely clear. You've tried only restoring data through recovery and it works, but videos don't? Do you have flash installed?
Try backing up your accounts with Titanium Backup then restoring. The problem is most likely with your rom or with Google.
Also, less than two hours without a response doesn't make this an unhelpful community. You're welcome to find a new one, but with that attitude people won't want to help you.
Next time, give more information so people can help you. What rom is giving you issues, which rom are you coming from? There's a thread somewhere about extracting data from nandroid backups. I'm not sure what you'll find there or if it'll answer your question, but you can try reading that.
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i understand what your saying , and if its abbrasive the way it sounded i assure you it was not. reason i said that comment is this...i been a member since 2007 and lately i asked the same question in different forms on other threads. as far as what your saying, i flashed mainly all roms and nothing..omj, cynogen, but will try the titanium backup thanks.
Man,
For 3 days, i've been reading and getting distracted and confusing mysef with this OG EVO.
Can I backup with nandroid, TB, or mybackup?- which is the most current and reliable?
Can I backup to dropbox, drive, or flash card cos I'm temporarily without my 6ram HP and accessing this info through my phone and a different pc.
Do I back up before visiting HTC DEV for the bootloader?
Where is the folder I'm supposed to put my recovery.img and .zip fies in for s-off functionality?
Which new, updated and most reliable recovery should i flash?
You got the time to tweet tips to me @niteridet?
I have no idea what's going on right now and i need a devoted individual to tutor me please and thank you.
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niteridet said:
Man,
For 3 days, i've been reading and getting distracted and confusing mysef with this OG EVO.
Can I backup with nandroid, TB, or mybackup?- which is the most current and reliable?
Can I backup to dropbox, drive, or flash card cos I'm temporarily without my 6ram HP and accessing this info through my phone and a different pc.
Do I back up before visiting HTC DEV for the bootloader?
Where is the folder I'm supposed to put my recovery.img and .zip fies in for s-off functionality?
Which new, updated and most reliable recovery should i flash?
You got the time to tweet tips to me @niteridet?
I have no idea what's going on right now and i need a devoted individual to tutor me please and thank you.
posted by another annoying noob troll with 2.3.5 android; stock 2.6.35.10 kernal; build 5.07; PRL 60690; hboot 2.18.0001; hardware 0004
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Yes: Nandroid BKUP
Yes: Either Or
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NO
Tell everyone a little bit more of whats going on. I still don't know what your problem is, be specific.
i think i need a book of this stuff.
I just want to be pointed in the right direction..I don't know much about tweaking gadgets, but i'm a fast learner and i'm more hands on then a visual observer.its hard for me to visualize specific steps of something, but i know as i get into a routine doing this, i'll be more comfortable and not so much a loof.
whats the correct order with the root and the best up to date one?
i want to tether internet and have something other then this boring setting customization option HTC gives us, and I want my phone to be smooth....Mybad, earlier I typed out a whole thread like it was a freakin novel and it randomly disappeared. wow.
Is it possible to flash a jb custom rom after first rooting OG? All these guides are in different locations and its constant flipping back and forth between directions and i lose track of what i'm doing because I get distracted easily. I need someone to hold my hand and watch over my shoulder to correct my every kink. is that even possible. I need training! What you got? :silly:
First off, you are thinking way, way to hard. Slow it down a notch and think things through. I would really recommend that you use Youtube. I mean, since you and me both are more of a visual type of person. Try this link first http://youtu.be/zEwEM641gBs
and or/ go to Youtube and type in How to root HTC EVO4G and find the most recent one.
Second choice is to actually find a "How To" on here, but like you said, you are more of a visual person, as am I also.
Rooting is overwhelming, with all the custom Roms, Kernels etc etc. Once you are rooted it basically gives you permission to do anything with your particular phone. With following the "How to root", the recovery is included. Basically, once I was rooted I found a Rom that I wanted that looked cool and looked suitable to my needs, I downloaded it, made a new folder on my SD card called "Rom" and transfered the Rom I downloaded from my PC to my Rom folder on my SD card. I then went into recovery mode, made a backup, wiped all 3 (factory reset-dalvik cache & cache), went to flash zip, went to my Rom folder, found the Rom I put in my folder and flashed it. Re-boot and BOOM you now have a custom Rom! If need be, send me an E-Mail. [email protected] and I can help you some more.
Thanks, I'll do that and let you know Nick.:good: