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hi everybody you guys are geniuses!
i m new to this whole spartphone thing! i just bought my htc evo and i m trying to root it but i don t even know the basics! what is a flash and how do i flash? what is sd configuration and how do i do that! how do i do backup ;nandroid backup?what is a kernel and how to put it into my rom!! basicly i need all the info from the begining until i run a custom rom! i really need help on this one! thank you!
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There are plenty of people around here that like to help, but asking to have the entire android guide spelled out for ya is a bit much. Go search and read up on what you can understand, then read a little further. When it starts to get confusing again, come back and ask a specific question or two. You will get a lot more help that way.
That s why I m asking! I did look it up, and it s confusing
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utzu said:
That s why I m asking! I did look it up, and it s confusing
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You gotta look up the tutorials. Flashing means moving something to your SD card and installing it.
unrevoked is kinda advanced since ur brand new..search on youtube for how to root evo 4g
swyped htc supersonic
stay stock
Google the basics . Most people don't have time to explain everything to you. There is a lot to learn, and I would advise you to not mod your phone unless its something you like to do. Your home work too google.
What is : nand recovery, back up, restore
What is: flashing
What is: recovery
What is: sd card, what is stored on it
What is a : rom
What is a :kernel
How do I flash them?
Learn what a ".apk" file is
What two recoveries do you have to choose from?
What is root? And its history (where it came from)
What is "su command"
What is "s" off and "s" on
Like I said, if you don't like too do this stuff and aren't a geek like the rest of us then I wouldn't bother, it takes a lot of reading and learning, one thing we all have in common is we are all still learning.
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Honestly, I would love to help, but you are asking too much. It takes weeks, months, even years to get fully acquainted with android and hacking it, especially if this is your first smartphone. If I were you, I would enjoy being stock for now. Once you figure out how to use either terminal or command prompt (Mac or pc, in that order) then maybe start making gradual changes. If you need ANY actual help, pm me as you would not be the first noob i helped. I consider it my duty (ha). Take developments from the experts, give info to the noobs. Really, get familiar with everything, look up some stuff, watch some videos, and if you still need any help, shoot me or another one of the experienced and helpful devs at the xda a pm (private message. Click their name and it will give you the option.) and you will be helped, I garuntee it.
utzu said:
hi everybody you guys are geniuses!
i m new to this whole spartphone thing! i just bought my htc evo and i m trying to root it but i don t even know the basics! what is a flash and how do i flash? what is sd configuration and how do i do that! how do i do backup ;nandroid backup?what is a kernel and how to put it into my rom!! basicly i need all the info from the begining until i run a custom rom! i really need help on this one! thank you!
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Hahahaha really! I mean c'mon did you even read any of the sticky's (threads at the very top of the forums)? Youll be amazed that all or most of your answers are there..
Heres a link to get you started read the page and click the links and read some more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic&useskin=vector
Not picking on ya but you need to understand the basics on yor own because its likely your phone will get messed up if you dont, and you are the only one to blame if it does. Thays why its important to fully understand what you are doing, remember flashing anything to your phone WILL void the warrantee if you screw up so be carefull.
Read for a month!
Read up on everything for a month, then start your EVO hacking experience!
Here are a few that are great starting points:
Common Misconceptions and Info
HTC EVO WIKI
How To Use These Forums
How To Search XDA
Helpful/Popular Threads
REMEMBER! - Any question you are thinking to ask, has most likely been asked and answered before on these forums SO SEARCH!
Good luck, and welcome!
I would start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
once you get that done the custom recovery is installed things will be much easier
I used that root method one my replacement evo and it worked just fine.
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I would start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
once you get that done the custom recovery is installed things will be much easier
I used that root method one my replacement evo and it worked just fine.
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This is if the OP does NOT have Android v2.2.
OP - If you go this route you will need to downgrade in Regaw's 2.2 ROOT METHOD, but stop before using unRevoked.
I am in an overly good mood today so i will help out with some basic information
What is : nand recovery, back up, restore - A nand back up is basically a way to back up your phone its rom and settings. a nand restore uses the a nand back up you made to put your phone back to where is was when you made the nand back up (think about a restore point on a windows computer very similar concept).
What is: flashing - Flashing is the process used to install system files. this is usually done through a recovery which i will get into below. the reason it is called flashing and not installing is because it needs to be done through recovery and is a slightly different process but in more basic terms it is basically installing your rom or radio or other system critical pieces onto the phones internal memory.
What is: recovery - a recovery is basically a program that lets you access some advanced system features, these include nand back up and restore, wiping cache, data, and dalvik, and the ability to flash (install) certain files to your phone. to get into a recovery with your phone off hold volume down and the power button you will load to a white screen with several options (this is the hboot or bootloader) select recovery.
What is: sd card, what is stored on it - Out of the gate your sd card is set up as it should be. their are a few reason you might change this however with 2.2 it has become less of a need and i recommend just leaving it be. The main reason people configure there sdcards is to allow a script called apps2sd to work. what this does is it allows you to store all your apps on the sd card they are normally stored on the phones internal memory. Froyo or 2.2 (the android os version on your phone) has the ability to allow apps to move to your sd card through the settings. now this doesn't work for all apps as it has to be turned on by the app creator but many it will. Because of this i would leave your sdcard alone while you learn the ropes.
What is a : rom - a rom is basically the operating system of your phone. what a rom does is replace the default os with a custom one that has been tweaked or built by a developer. this is the piece of the phone you interact with.
What is a :kernel a kernel is basically the software that translates what you do in the rom to the hardware. think of it as the phones steering wheel. you let the phone to do this and the kernel interprets it so the hardware knows what to do,
How do I flash them? To flash files is relatively easy you place them on the root of your sd card (basically drag and rop onto the sd card but not in any folder). then you boot into the recovery. in the recovery you shoudl be able to find the options to wipe cache, wipe data/factory and wipe dalvik. you select each of these and then yuo select flash .zip from sd. next you scroll to the file you want to flash (the rom or kernel etc you want) and select it (normally power button) you should then flash the rom. once it is flashed select back until you see reboot phone and then reboot it and you should boot up with your new rom.
What is "s" off and "s" on - s on and s off is basically the way you can tell you are rooted in the bootloader (or hboot i talked about above) at the very top you should see one of these options. what these mean is whether your phone requires a signed file (s on) or whether it can flash unsigned files (s off). for now just consider a signed file as an official file with an unsigned file being unofficial or modded.
Now hopefully this explains a bit of the basics better and gives you enough information to better understand what is going on. My recommendation is to take the steps to root flash etc 1 at a time it is easy to read through all the instructions and go wow this is confusing. it really isnt as bad as it seems and as long as you follow each step you should be fine. just do exactly what each step tells you to do and dont worry about the next steps till you are there. you still have a lot to learn and the best way you can learn it is by searching the forums think of it as your library.
many people are glad to help however as you can see from some of the posts it is expected that you at least try to learn and research things for yourself. if you get stuck on something ask and you will normally get an answer just try remember if you cant take the time to search and research things you shouldn't expect others to take the time to help. i'm not saying you did i ma jsut giving advice for the future.
anyway best of luck and hopefully this will get you in the right direction.
NOTE: i have "dumbed" down some of the explanations to give the jiest of the idea with out getting to technical so for those that are more technical it is on purposse.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI
I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum. This is a good way to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Samsung Epic 4G. This includes, but is not limited to, people that are providing the following:
- Roms & Kitchens
- Programs & Apps
- Fixes & Tweaks
- Skins & Themes
- Tips & Tricks
I would like to request the help from other members to keep the thread in order and in check. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question a billion times...
Please refer to the Wiki first before asking any questions though! It can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI
Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
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Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
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Unfortunately, we don't have anyone in the community who has inside access to that information. Some of our members are affiliated with Sprint, and so have slightly more reliable rumors, but even their sources have thus far been wrong if they quoted a specific date...
So I hope you understand that I'm not being a jerk when I say, we won't know until it actually happens (and this will probably always be the case)
That being said, this most recent leak (DK28) seems stable so far IMO, so it could potentially become our official update
ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
EDIT: Angry rant removed, thanks to the mods for a quick response (and to the member who's post was removed: no hard feelings, I hope you understand)
Just remember to read before posting, to make sure your post will be relevant and not redundant
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ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
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Whenever flashing a ROM using either recovery, it's always a good idea to wipe the phone (as in factory reset - I'm not referring to wiping the cache or the dalvik cache, although both steps are also usually recommended)
If you used the odin method described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213
then you might have flashed the wrong tar - DK05 and DK17 both had the camera problem, make sure you have the DK28 file.
If you have the right tar, then you could have an incomplete download... I doubt that though, when that happened to me, my phone wouldn't boot at all. But you might want to redownload the tar just to be sure (double check the filesize after it finishes and before you flash, if it seems too small then it messed up again)
That's the best general advice I can offer, but if you'd like to provide more details about the method you used (especially a link to the guide you used, if it isn't the one I provided), someone here might be able to identify where you're going wrong
i followed the instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213. i didnt use odin, i just used the .zip method. it took me a lot of tries cause i kept getting errors. the second mirror link worked for me, but like i said, my camera, gps, gallery and some other apps dont work.
oh and everytime i try to flash again, i get the error.
It sounds like you're either starting from the wrong rom or not wiping the phone before flashing the zip. All of the zip updates I have seen require you to start from DI18 stock (root an clockwork seem to be okay in my experience, all other mods must be removed) - if you have installed any custom roms, your best bet is to follow the odin method using the stock DI18 tar - so you may as well just skip the zip methodand odin to the stock DK28 tar
And you absolutely must wipe the phone (again, factory reset - I suspect many people are just wiping the cache and/or the dalvik cache).
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I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
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I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
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Are you doing the strictly odin method (full froyo in a tar file)? Or an update.zip?
The odin method *should* include the modem and everything (and you use the updated pit in the same process) - you'll have to read the particular thread that you got the download link from, but I haven't noticed any odin tar files that required the modem separately
For the update.zip method, I don't know if it matters whether you flash the modem before or after applying the zip through recovery - I don't think either one overwrites the other, but that's a part of the process I can only guess about. But regardless of when you odin flash the modem, that's when you'll use the new pit file (the same as the odin-only method above).
As far as I know, the primary difference is that the update.zip doesn't inherently overwrite user data (but you'll probably have broken programs that FC all the time, which means a wipe is necessary, making this somewhat null). I prefer the odin method because it is a fresh flash of the entire system (I usually let it repartition as well - no one else has posted about that feature so I have no idea if it's a fluke that it hasn't given me problems)
Hope that helps
which is the best
so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
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How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
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How I understand it, especially with Froyo, you shouldn't have to kill programs in the background, if said 'background' process or service is working normal or efficiently. I still kill the DRM process when I reboot my phone, and not sure if it's still causing drain issues.
Also (someone else confirm this), I believe that constantly 'killing' certain background processes actually uses MORE battery, since it has to constantly restart itself. I've had a much more stable device *not* using auto killers, and just sniping one here and there that I know to cause drain.
Some reading material on GC, tho, in regards to memory management
Ignore me!
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so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
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A lot of it is personal preference - this early in the game, the primary differences between the roms are going to be mostly cosmetic. So for now, the best advice I can offer is to try each of them and decide which theme you like. Regardless of how you upgraded, you had to use odin, so you have succeeded at the most difficult step of the process - and odin can bring your phone back to life if something goes wrong, so it's an invaluable skill to have.
In the meantime, keep watching the threads (quietly, unless you have a question that hasn't been asked already - we're working on cleaning up the forum to make it easier for everyone to find answers... but I digress...)
It's too early to be sure of any of the fixes out there - we have at least three separate fixes for the GPS issues; some people find success with one, others with another, and a lucky few don't need the fixes at all... so in summary, we can't say which is better or worse just yet, stay tuned and decide whether you want to experiment on the bleeding edge, or wait for these things to be stable and thoroughly tested.
And if you have any doubts, just stick with the stock DK28 for now
tl;dr, questions in BOLD.
Okay, after spending the entire night scouring the internet/this forum and starting from absolutely zero-knowledge about the Android OS, I managed to update my Epic to 2.2, and root the phone. Now, I'm kinda stuck as far as customization goes. I see all these cool skins and battery life mods and stuff, but they don't exactly offer any steps as to how to install them. Since I don't exactly know what file-types do what, I'm kinda shooting blindly at trying to update/install something "custom" onto the phone. So, my question(s) is/are:
What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
I know the root basically "unlocks" your phone, but that's all I know. The process of customizing the phone still remains a mystery. (that's the problem with following step-by-step instructions, rather than actually knowing what you're doing.)
I also don't understand the purpose of flashing a phone. Flashing, in my experience is to update something, like say a BIOS. But that sets the system back to square 1 as far as all settings go, in this particular example.
If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?
Sorry if these are questions easily answered by searching, but I just spent my entire sleep-cycle trying to find the answers to these questions, and managed to only get so far. I look forward to the answers On another note, I am now EXTREEEEMELY pleased with my phone. Before this evening, I was just the regular, old run-of-the-mill enduser. I liked the cool built-in customizations and all the apps and what not, but never dreamed of being able to customize my phone to THIS EXTENT. So, now it's something I'm very interested in doing..it makes my phone truly mine.
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What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
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Did you see the link to the Wiki in the original post of this thread? That's where I started when I first got here, it helped me understand the basics.
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If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?.
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It depends on what you flashed with Odin. If you only flash a modem file, then your customizations and apps are untouched. If you flash an entire ROM in "tarball" form then not only does it re-write the modem but it also overwrites all user data. Think of the latter as resetting the phone to stock and works even if you cannot boot up.
When can we expect a custom Kernel with netfilters for wifi tethering?
n00b question.
If an SDK version is released (say, like, Gingerbread today), does that mean chefs could take it and cook up a ROM for ANY phone (say, like, the Epic)? Or do they need something else to do that?
Remove Touchwiz Launcher (consequences?)
Hey-- I'm using Quantum 2.0.0 ROM, and I never use the touchwiz launcher. Does anyone know if it's safe to just remove the apk? (TouchWiz30Launcher.apk) or is there other functionality tied to it?
I use LauncherPro, fyi.
Please forgive my ignorance... I've searched the forums, looked at the wiki...
I use titanium backup and am now running the DK27 froyo build by noobnl. My question... How do I restore my e-mail accounts to the phone everytime without having to re-type them in? I've been flashing a rom every other day on average since I got the phone and it's getting REALLY old.
Hey Guys,
I am at a certain level of expertise with this rooting, rom, etc business, but I need some more fundamental understanding. I have a series of questions that I have looked everywhere for...I feel like the answers are probably quite simple, but somewhere down the line I missed the "android 101" class or something.
What I know how to do:
1. I have rooted my Evo 4g with unrevoked, and verified that S-off is there, etc.
2. I have installed Rom Manager, and "flashed" cyanogenmod and MIUI using it
3. I have booted my phone into Clockworkmod's recovery, and tried to "flash" some other types of files (like radios, wimax, etc), without success...but at least I know how to get into the recovery? lol
What I need to know how to do:
1. I don't understand how "flashing" works at all. I know how to do it when it comes to a Rom, and I can use Rom manager. But I don't know how to flash smaller things, like the radios found in this thread, for instance. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 As far as I knew, "flashing" was only for roms, and I always thought that every time you "flashed" something, you were wiping everything else out.
2. I don't understand how to load different kernels onto my phone.
3. I don't understand how to get different boot animations onto my phone. I think that once I understand how to "flash" things, I will also understand how to do this.
4. I don't know whether I need or want the newest version of Hboot....do I?
I really appreciate all your help, guys. AS of right now, I have a beautiful EVO, with a wonderful MIUI theme all loaded up, but it doesn't work that well - needs upgraded radios, etc. I'd appreciate the help
Thanks!!!!!
There's a Q&A forum for a reason.
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Hey Guys,
I am at a certain level of expertise with this rooting, rom, etc business, but I need some more fundamental understanding. I have a series of questions that I have looked everywhere for...I feel like the answers are probably quite simple, but somewhere down the line I missed the "android 101" class or something.
What I know how to do:
1. I have rooted my Evo 4g with unrevoked, and verified that S-off is there, etc.
2. I have installed Rom Manager, and "flashed" cyanogenmod and MIUI using it
3. I have booted my phone into Clockworkmod's recovery, and tried to "flash" some other types of files (like radios, wimax, etc), without success...but at least I know how to get into the recovery? lol
What I need to know how to do:
1. I don't understand how "flashing" works at all. I know how to do it when it comes to a Rom, and I can use Rom manager. But I don't know how to flash smaller things, like the radios found in this thread, for instance. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 As far as I knew, "flashing" was only for roms, and I always thought that every time you "flashed" something, you were wiping everything else out.
2. I don't understand how to load different kernels onto my phone.
3. I don't understand how to get different boot animations onto my phone. I think that once I understand how to "flash" things, I will also understand how to do this.
I really appreciate all your help, guys. AS of right now, I have a beautiful EVO, with a wonderful MIUI theme all loaded up, but it doesn't work that well - needs upgraded radios, etc. I'd appreciate the help
Thanks!!!!!
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1. You flash it just like you would a ROM. The area where this information is stored is just like the area where the ROM is stored, albeit separate.
2. Kernels are the same. You flash it like a ROM and it replaces the kernel that is stored in the "kernel area" of the phone.
3. Consult this area: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=655
Nice write up just failed by dropping it here
from my phone duh
Stay away from flashing radio ext if you don't no what your doing u could brick your phone. And flash RA recovery it works beter
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Nice write up on issue mate, but I've moved thread to correct forum
Alright, as some of you know, I really, really, REALLY, messed up on my last root attempt.
Apparently I didn't backup what I was supposed to. That was my own stupid a55 mistake and I have admitted to it.
I DO plan to attempt a root again so that I can get this theme on my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042268
There are things that I need to know before I attempt this (and yes I know there are forums already on this but I need to be 110% sure)
1) How do I back up EVERYTHING on my phone and put it on my computer or SD card or somewhere that I can go to incase I mess up again?
2) What is the EASIEST program/method to root this Samsung Epic 4g?
3) (I'm not too sure what I'm talking about here ((remember, I'm a total noob)))
I tried CWM 3.0.0.5 before... is this a ROM that I attempted to go to?
3ii) If I should'nt be using CWM, what should I use?
4) Is Froyo and CWM the same time of thing? or two different things completely?
and finally:
5) Give me all of your recommendations on this please! I DON'T WANNA MESS UP AGAIN!
And please none of this "You messed up before, dont try it again!" crap, I know I messed up, and I know this is stupid, but the fact of the matter is, I'm trying it again to get this theme on my device. So PLEASE help me out!
Thanks everyone!
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Alright, as some of you know, I really, really, REALLY, messed up on my last root attempt.
Apparently I didn't backup what I was supposed to. That was my own stupid a55 mistake and I have admitted to it.
I DO plan to attempt a root again so that I can get this theme on my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042268
There are things that I need to know before I attempt this (and yes I know there are forums already on this but I need to be 110% sure)
1) How do I back up EVERYTHING on my phone and put it on my computer or SD card or somewhere that I can go to incase I mess up again?
2) What is the EASIEST program/method to root this Samsung Epic 4g?
3) (I'm not too sure what I'm talking about here ((remember, I'm a total noob)))
I tried CWM 3.0.0.5 before... is this a ROM that I attempted to go to?
3ii) If I should'nt be using CWM, what should I use?
4) Is Froyo and CWM the same time of thing? or two different things completely?
and finally:
5) Give me all of your recommendations on this please! I DON'T WANNA MESS UP AGAIN!
And please none of this "You messed up before, dont try it again!" crap, I know I messed up, and I know this is stupid, but the fact of the matter is, I'm trying it again to get this theme on my device. So PLEASE help me out!
Thanks everyone!
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Ok, first things first. Not to be rude, but you are at the first step of enjoying Epic goodness; rooting your phone. It should be obvious that this step is covered ALL over XDA and a simple google search would have lead you to the following page:
CWM 3.0.0.5
There are already wayyyy too many threads asking questions that were answered long before they were ever even asked in the first place.
Okay, now that that's out of the way .
1. If you're absolutely freaked about losing anything, MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will back up all your apps. Then simply plug your phone into your computer and copy the entire contents of your sd card to your harddrive. Mybackup Root can be used once your rooted and is free.
2. Use the link i posted.
3. CWM is not a Rom. It replaces the default recovery subsystem with one you can use to flash Roms. You enter it from the off state by pressing Volume Down+Camera+Power. Do not use CWM 3.0.2.4.
4. Froyo is simply the version of android. The Samsung Epic is on Froyo, or 2.2. Roms come in various flavors like Eclair(2.1), Froyo(2.2), and hopefully soon for the Epic, Gingerbread(2.3).
5. Search around the Epic Android Development for a Rom that makes you excited. A good suggestion for you would be Midnight 5.2. All you have to do is download the Rom .zip file to your SD, boot into CWM 3, Install from SD, and point it to the .zip. Read the forums for how to safely install their Roms like clearing data and making/restoring backups.
Remember, everything you've asked has been asked and answered many times, so please search next time to avoid making unnecessary threads and to gain your answer faster!
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Ok, first things first. Not to be rude, but you are at the first step of enjoying Epic goodness; rooting your phone. It should be obvious that this step is covered ALL over XDA and a simple google search would have lead you to the following page:
CWM 3.0.0.5
There are already wayyyy too many threads asking questions that were answered long before they were ever even asked in the first place.
Okay, now that that's out of the way .
1. If you're absolutely freaked about losing anything, MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will back up all your apps. Then simply plug your phone into your computer and copy the entire contents of your sd card to your harddrive. Mybackup Root can be used once your rooted and is free.
2. Use the link i posted.
3. CWM is not a Rom. It replaces the default recovery subsystem with one you can use to flash Roms. You enter it from the off state by pressing Volume Down+Camera+Power. Do not use CWM 3.0.2.4.
4. Froyo is simply the version of android. The Samsung Epic is on Froyo, or 2.2. Roms come in various flavors like Eclair(2.1), Froyo(2.2), and hopefully soon for the Epic, Gingerbread(2.3).
5. Search around the Epic Android Development for a Rom that makes you excited. A good suggestion for you would be Midnight 5.2. All you have to do is download the Rom .zip file to your SD, boot into CWM 3, Install from SD, and point it to the .zip. Read the forums for how to safely install their Roms like clearing data and making/restoring backups.
Remember, everything you've asked has been asked and answered many times, so please search next time to avoid making unnecessary threads and to gain your answer faster!
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Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.
cheech92007 said:
Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.
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After reviewing your other posts, I am now aware that you have asked a lot of this and already been answered but are clearly not interested in reading the information presented to you. This should have been continued in the last thread that you started, but what's done is done. Your key problem is rooting with CWM which converts the file system to EXT4. You will have to flash a new rom or kernel immediately following or the phone can't boot. This means that you must have a new rom or kernel .zip file on your sd card PRIOR TO ROOTING. I haven't messed around too much with a rooted stock rom, but at the least you need a new kernel, search for and try VisionKernel if thats all you want.
Please refrain from starting any more threads, you've already been given more information than you need by myself and others. Search around XDA, it can be fun!
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You will have to flash a new rom or kernel immediately following or the phone can't boot. This means that you must have a new rom or kernel .zip file on your sd card PRIOR TO ROOTING. I haven't messed around too much with a rooted stock rom, but at the least you need a new kernel, search for and try VisionKernel if thats all you want.
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Alright, I just downloaded the EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip to my desktop...is THIS what you were talking about that I need on my SD card first? I looked inside it and it has a KERNEL file in it... So I put this on my SD card, then ROOT, then UNZIP the EB13 on my devices when Im in CWM Reboot?
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Alright, I just downloaded the EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip to my desktop...is THIS what you were talking about that I need on my SD card first? I looked inside it and it has a KERNEL file in it... So I put this on my SD card, then ROOT, then UNZIP the EB13 on my devices when Im in CWM Reboot?
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There is no unzipping. In CWM, you simply select "Install from sd", point to your .zip file, and tell it to start. CWM is pretty straight forward to navigate. It will probably take a couple minutes, after which you will select the Reboot option and watch your phone load.
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Okay the main thing that I am confused about is number 5. Why do I want these ROM's exactly? Pretty much all I want is that Red Angry Alien theme.
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What randomking said....and
I didn't see what the red angry alien theme was designed for.... it just says ec05...ec05 is the latest build of froyo we have. Because all you want is a theme I'm going to suggest you do the oneclick root cwm version 2.5.5(stock file system).
I assume you'll need to be on a deodexed rom to flash that, but you may want to try it(since you learned how to odin you can just about recover from anything) and see if it works.
After you run the oneclick 2.5.5 root your good to go, just boot back into clockworkmod(2.5.5 is green text and not orange) click down to backup/restore, click on it and then click backup. This is what's called a nandroid. A nandroid is a complete backup of your entire system, including all user data. The only thing it will not backup is the kernel, since your not changing the kernel it won't matter. If you have problems or mess up you just wipe everything/factory reset/cache/dalvik cache and instead of going to backup, you select restore....blaam exactly the way your phone was when you backed it up. BTW backing up and restoring takes about 10minutes and don't try it when your battery is almost dead.
Hope that helps a bit more and don't rush it, the theme will be here for a long while I'm sure.
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There is no unzipping. In CWM, you simply select "Install from sd", point to your .zip file, and tell it to start. CWM is pretty straight forward to navigate. It will probably take a couple minutes, after which you will select the Reboot option and watch your phone load.
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Great, Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Now all I need to do is get my theme on here xD
cheech92007 said:
Great, Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Now all I need to do is get my theme on here xD
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On second thought cheech, go herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997 and watch every single one of these videos and don't ask anything more untill you have.....deal?
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On second thought cheech, go herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997 and watch every single one of these videos and don't ask anything more untill you have.....deal?
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yessir!
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yessir!
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I'll thank that post later if you really watch ALL those videos.....they're really helpful
Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
I am running OSX Snowleopard, and have gotten Heimdall to run, but it will not recognize my epic when I put it into download mode. I feel like I am out of options, but I do have one more idea, and I wanted to run this past all of you ...
Since I cannot get my Heimdall to find my epic when I put it into download mode, would it be feasible for me to get a microsd reader (I found one at walgreens for 20 bucks), put an update.zip on it of like a stock eclair or froyo ( I hardly even care which version now, I just would like a working phone...) and run the update from sd via the still working clockwork recovery??
If this would work, it would rock, but I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere. I don't see why it would work, but then again I am not a wizard.
Any suggestions? Comments? Reassurance or Guidance?
If anyone could point me towards the best update.zip to try and push via the microsd reader, I would be eternally grateful. Or in general, if you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it...
Thank you so much in advance, to anyone willing to give me a shot or lend a hand...
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Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
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I have NEVER tried this but it sounds like its worth a shot...i would try CM7 just to get something booting (and its a small file to DL).
But you should definitely "find" a copy of windows (google it *cough cough*) and use bootcamp (search in spotlight) to partition your hard drive and install it and have a mac with osx and windows lol i have xp but you can try newer...
its pretty easy (instructions are detailed) and you will never have to worry about "soft bricks" because you have odin
Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
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Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
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Your welcome, and HERE is CM7 (cyanogen mod 7). This is just to see if your phone still works (seems to me like it will) and after that you can root with clockwork 3.0.0.6 (if you want ext4). Be sure to have an EXT4 compatible rom when u boot into CWM. You will need to flash it after it converts your filesystem.
If you dont mind having a "dead" phone i suggest trying bootcamp...some files dont have "god knows what" and you will be able to odin EC05 prerooted. ALOT easier lol by dead i mean get no calls and sms, etc..
Just download file, put on sd card and flash...should work. I hope it works for you!
I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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Lmao yea i have an epic. And ext4 is just a faster filesystem than RFS which is stock. Also most roms have journaling off which means you
cant just pull your battery and stuff like that because you will have corrupt data (most likely). Journaling enabled (like in stock with RFS)
will simply keep a journal of what the system does and in case of an improper shutdown (battery pull or phone falls and batt. pops out or
batt. drain to 0) when it turns on it will "recover" from where it left off. The only bad thing about this is that it writes to the nand (i
think) ALOT...maybe more than RFS but really it would kill your phone in 3-4 years and you probably wont keep it that long anyway lol
I usually run bonsai but you have to sign up to their forum for the download...i dont think im allowed to post a link. but ive heard Syndicate
rom frozen is also VERY good. And quick. But in short, if you want a speedy epic, choose EXT4 lol
Also you can try MIUI 1.3.5 rom..Its really cool. Sort of like best of iphone and android in one. Im actually one of the guys trying to port it now...
but im not a dev lol
Good luck!! and trust me, custom roms are fun. Especially when you become a flash-a-holic lol
Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Lol it happens to everyone xD
And let me know if it works...if not you will have to try the bootcamp way
Will do...
Thanks again for your help! I truly appreciate it!
As long as you're rooted with a working ClockWorkMod and can manually access your sd card, you can flash anything to your phone. You may want to make sure you format Data, Cache, And Dalvik Cache 3 times before flashing a rom though. Also, you may want to upgrade to ClockWorkMod 3. I have it referenced in my signature. It will need to be booted into first, while it converts to ext4, then a suitable rom like Syndicate Rom Frozen will have to be flashed.
Have you tried to fix it with an update.zip? My assumption is that this would not work for a number of reasons.
Your questions are not new, and have been asked more than once in their own threads as well as general question threads. GOOGLE search your question with "XDA" in the search bar. It's your friend, and it will answer your questions.
Just to recap:
1. CWM 2.5 or 3
2. Flash suitable rom
3. Shutdown properly, no reboot or battery pull!
4. Boot into CWM
5. Backup, and then immediately restore! This will re-engage Journaling and prevent future data corruption
6. Use Google! The more questions that are asked repeatedly, the more threads people will have to dig through to find answers.
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
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Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
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I can also recommend Bonsai and Midnight as fantastic roms. I use them all, but Syndicate is my current. Syndicate EB13 is the one you want. EC05 didn't change the firmware, it only modified the modem. I've tested EB13 as well as EC05 with Syndicate, switching back and forth, with no visible problems. If your phone is on EB13 or EC05, then Syndicate Frozen 1.1 should work nicely, it's linked in my signature.
Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
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Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
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If you're able to use Odin on your computer, just use my CWM Odin link. You'll find EB13 pre-rooted with CWM 3 and you can flash that straight from the computer. Just be sure you have a Rom on your SD card first so it's ready to install from the recovery menu.
Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Good luck to you! Hopefully you read the following:
What does NOT work in CM7 for Epic::
GPS
Camera
Multimedia Messaging
Bluetooth In-Call (Hands-Free Profile)
WiMax 4G (This is absolute LAST priority, DON'T ASK ABOUT IT)
I don't develop personally, but I make it a habit to try and understand what's going on, and as such I rearrange and personalize ROMs to my liking, and subsequently carefully test them to maximize performance and battery. I like to share my understanding and insight to help alleviate the task from developers who already do so much work in an effort to pay them back!
Yes, I am aware of the current limitations of this incarnation of CM7, it seems as though right now, cell coverage radio is going a bit insane (toggle rapidly airplane mode) with my setup. I am currenly looking into how to get CW3 on it.
Hey I managed to gain access to a windows laptop, installed odin on it, and attempted to reflash with what I imagine are the stock files, but it's failed twice...
Which files should I be using? My phone WAS on DK18, but all i'm looking for now is to get it working in a stock way, then I can venture out again....
Any help?
Edit: Odin said it failed, but it seems like some stuff took, it will boot to the samsung screen, do the sprint yellow boxy thing with music, go to the glowing S, it'll pulsate for a while, then it goes to a black screen sat for a good while., Now when I reboot, it hangs at the first samsung screen again..
Does it look like I just used the wrong files, or was it a usb issue?
I'm a bit perplexed...
I'm a noob as well. You need to watch qbking77 on you tube. He goes through the exact steps and exactly what files to use if using odin in one of his videos. The links are all there as well. I have hade my epic a week and have done about everything in his videos to help me understand what I am doing.
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http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=qbking77&v=YQ2g6J1JgjU&view=videos
That is a link to the video.
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