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Please Help: Problems with charging!!

:?: Hello. I was wondering if anybody has had same problem as i have.
I work on my xdaIIs a fair bit away from home and as a result i need to recharge it every now and then. I have a usb charger cable that i use to charge it using other computers and also via a usb car charger pluggy thingy sorry cant remember name :lol:
The problem i have is that while i am charging my xdaIIs using this method the battery power starts running DOWN as if the power is being drained!!! The device is definately telling me its being recharged.
Please help... I have no idea what is going on???!!!
THANKYOU in advance. 8) :?

Depends what you are using to charge I had the same problem with a mini sync cable I bought sync'd fine but didnt charge but that because it was designed for an XDA not an XDA2 bought a new one from boxwave and its fine.
But certainly if your device is sufficiently drained it will be pulling more power that your PC's USB slot will be willing to give it so you could be running into that.

Novice Gadget Boy said:
The problem i have is that while i am charging my xdaIIs using this method the battery power starts running DOWN as if the power is being drained!!! The device is definately telling me its being recharged.
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I would guess that the charger doesn't supply sufficient current to actually charge the unit. I say this, because I have seen exactly the same thing (= orange light on and the battery power level decreasing fast) when I built my custom charger for XDAII. XDAII is very "picky" and needs a lot of power to charge and the "USB car charger", as you described it, probably can't supply enough.

Thanks for the reply guys.
It used to work when i first bought it but now doesnt.
Any ideas on what i could purchase that WOULD work??

I have had a similiar problem with a similiar charging setup, but mine charges fine as long as the battery level does not fall too low, if it gets below about 30% then it seems to decharge instead of charge... its really strange.

Cigarrete adaptor charger Draining mine too..
I had a Ipaq 2210 installed in the handle bars of my bike with a Holux BT GPS, recently after breaking 2 of them( IPAQS) I've replaced with a XDA IIs, I had a cigarrete adaptor for the IPAQs and another for powering the speakers... as now i can't use the speakers (due to the horrible 2.5 jack)I've modified the supplied connector for charging without the craddle to fit the connector for the speakers...
I realized from time to time the XDA turned it self off... and last travel it just died with the orange led on and battery 0%....
However first time I've used it was a 700km trip (paris - switzerland) and that time had no pbm (once or twice it turned off but that was all)
I've noticed that the supplied wall power adaptor is a 2Amp one... which looks like enourmous to me... but i tought that cigarrete adaptors were not amperage limited (but for your battery and generator/alternator)
One think I havent tried is to cut the Ipaq's one and fit the connector there... as the Ipaq uses the same wall power thing perhaps the cigarrete adaptor will be the same too....
Please any advice for me ??
I would also like to mod the suppplied connector into a usb stand alone sync cable (pls advise on it too....)
Also i would like to fit an Ipaq IR led onto the XDA to use it as remote for my digital rebel camera.... (advice again?)
Thanks in advance
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cradle not charging

Hi All
Since 2 days ago my cradle stopped charging via the mains. It charges the battery separately in the back and It syncs fine but nothing happens when I plug the mains in. However it does charge the XDA when it is sync'd and in the car
any ideas???

The XDA i have is a XDA iis (blueangel PH20B) with my cradle (desktop stand)it charges either with mains adaptor or will charge via the usb cable without the mains connected. What XDA do you have also what is the cradle part no.

I have the XDA II (Himalayer PH10B).
I don't get why it will sync & charge and mains charge the battery separately but won't mains charge in the cradle.

it sounds like a fault with the cradle, if you can check it against another one
maybe a friend has got one if not ask at the phone shops,see if anyone has got one in and get them to check it for you.

my xda2 cradle had a pretty poor connector
sometimes it would sync and charge something not
(was a bit of an issue in the middle of a flash :S)
changed to my old xda1 cradle and no problems

no car charging either
update:
I don't think its the cradle after all as its not charging in the car now either but the wired sat nav is still working.
could it be a lose connection in the XDA itself?

Help Can't charge!!

My himalaya has stopped charging through the cradle or car charger. It syncs and charges through the usb and my wired sat nav connects up but neither method charges my phone anymore. Obviously the battery will die down quick when I use my tom tom so I need that to work and only being able to charge via usb is a pain and inconvienient.
What can I do to fix it??

What kind of charging connector your PDA has? ie. my universal has a mini usb, it is used to charge/sync, it can be done at the same time, on the contrary an old Ipaq (series H38XX & H39XX) had two different ways for power to arrive to the PDA, this means that you could charge it with its charger or via usb while syncing or just charge via usb.
Why am I asking this?
In this way I'm trying to understand if you could have a problem with a connector/cable (different connector for charging with the craddle/car charger and usb charging) or you could have other problems.
If it's possible for you, take some pictures of your pda's syncing and/or charging connector, to your craddle, car charger and usb syncing/charging cable.
Possible causes for your problem are:
Defective craddle/car chargers, defects can be not the chargers themselves, but the cables that go from the chargers to the PDA.
Defective/unsoldered PDA power/charging connector, it is not so unusual that after you pull the cable too hard, without pressing the unlocking secures (in case your cables have them), accidentally hit your charging cable/craddle or the PDA itself while they are tied togheter you cause a malfunction due to a false contact or a broken cable.
See if one of this might be the cause in your case, how? Can you have a borrowed craddle/car charger to verify if yours are ok?
Try to move the charging cable/craddle or the PDA (easy and carefully) to see if the PDA begins to charge.
Let me know how it goes.

unfortunately I don't know anyone that has an XDA - so no other chargers unless I try the o2 shop.
THe XDA has a cradle with a usb connector that can charge and sync and also a mains lead which plugs into the cradle or there is a little adaptor piece(which I've lost) which plugs straight into the xda to charge. I stiooed using that because it would push in properly.
My thoughts are that its the PDA itself as the car charger was only bought december whilst I have had the PDA and cradle since 2004 and they both stopped charging at the same time. The adaptor stopped chargin in the summer.

[Q] Soo I learned this about my car charger.........

I drive a 08 F-150 and I put my phone in my cupholder and it bends my charger putting the weight of the phone on it and recently it started to bend the contact port that receives electricity and I would connect my phone but it would say connected but would drain my battery so I have to bend charger cables to charge my phone( ive tried many) and one day I put my phone connected to my car charger and it was powered off and than I looked and my phone was in download mode and something got downloaded I then rebooted my phone and my triangle was gone!!!!!!! Is it possible my charger turned into a usb jig? And anybody have an ideas on maybe moving the contact to its original position? Also when plugged intoi a computer itll charge but needs to bent up on the port of my phone to be usb recognized.
Or a car charger that bends around the phone? like at a 90 angle?

master acehole said:
I drive a 08 F-150 and I put my phone in my cupholder and it bends my charger putting the weight of the phone on it and recently it started to bend the contact port that receives electricity and I would connect my phone but it would say connected but would drain my battery so I have to bend charger cables to charge my phone( ive tried many) and one day I put my phone connected to my car charger and it was powered off and than I looked and my phone was in download mode and something got downloaded I then rebooted my phone and my triangle was gone!!!!!!! Is it possible my charger turned into a usb jig? And anybody have an ideas on maybe moving the contact to its original position? Also when plugged intoi a computer itll charge but needs to bent up on the port of my phone to be usb recognized.
Or a car charger that bends around the phone? like at a 90 angle?
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sounds like out of no where it turned into a jig by being at a 90• angle. im not sure but it may sound like that. just charge it with the headphone side down, charger port up!
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Its possible, but not probable. It would be a combination of only certain pins transferring current, and the resistance only being like 300k ohms. Totally possible over time i suppose with a faulty connection.
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krazy_smokezalot said:
sounds like out of no where it turned into a jig by being at a 90• angle. im not sure but it may sound like that. just charge it with the headphone side down, charger port up!
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Lol its really weird but my headphone jack is bent lol I have ocd that's why I put it right side up lol

Sounds like you need to get a phone holder of some sort.
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I grab my phone to much driving lol yes its illegal but thanks anyway guys

i have seen those 90° male to female plugs on the web somewhere. seems those might be worth taking a look at.
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I've been using a simple $6.00 vent mounted holder from Walmart ever since my HTC Mogul days. It sure beats breaking your charging port.

This is why I hate having the charger port on the BOTTOM of the phone... Its stupid design because that's the part of the phone that is going to be bumping up against something most of the time. It really should be next to the headphone jack.
I purchased a right-angle USB cable about a month after I got my phone, and I love it. I can actually set my phone in a cup holder in the car with it charging and NOT feel like I'm going to break the USB port.

Dalmus said:
This is why I hate having the charger port on the BOTTOM of the phone... Its stupid design because that's the part of the phone that is going to be bumping up against something most of the time. It really should be next to the headphone jack.
I purchased a right-angle USB cable about a month after I got my phone, and I love it. I can actually set my phone in a cup holder in the car with it charging and NOT feel like I'm going to break the USB port.
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You wouldn't have a link? Thanks and my other problem is that might not charge my phone my charger has to bend up ='(

Dalmus said:
This is why I hate having the charger port on the BOTTOM of the phone... Its stupid design because that's the part of the phone that is going to be bumping up against something most of the time. It really should be next to the headphone jack.
I purchased a right-angle USB cable about a month after I got my phone, and I love it. I can actually set my phone in a cup holder in the car with it charging and NOT feel like I'm going to break the USB port.
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I prefer this design. 1000x better then the og epic. I hated trying to type on keyboard with charger and headphones plugged in.
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KIDIGI DOCK - AC charge fix!

Hi!
All owners of Kidigi car dock should read and do this!
I got a Kidigi car dock with charger. The first thing I tried was putting the phone on the included charger - and indeed, it did charge in "AC mode" (aka 1000mA max).
Then I installed the cradle, connected the charger to the cradle and started using it.
But after 2 days I noticed it doesn't really charge when navigating or recording - and it was not an overheat issue. So today I looked again and it was charging in USB mode!
Apparently, the good folks at Kidigi screwed up the connection inside the dock (probably to trigger Car mode and forgot to connect it all).
The fix:
1) unscrew the four visible screws on the back of the dock (not the 4 center ones)
2) unscrew the fifth screw under the label on top
3) unscrew the phillips screw that holds the connector
4) short PINs on the phone side labelled D- and D+ (I just used a blob of solder)
5) that's it
Now it triggers Car mode AND charges in AC.
This fix is essential for anybody using this dock, and I'll be mailing Kidigi shortly to let them know they screwed up...

mine charges mine fine whilst using GPS and Bluetooth.
Not a quick charge tho but it definitely charges more than discharges if that makes sense .
I will check the pins tho thanks =)
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I hope this wasn't on purpose for the sake of overheating?
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colemanuk said:
mine charges mine fine whilst using GPS and Bluetooth.
Not a quick charge tho but it definitely charges more than discharges if that makes sense .
I will check the pins tho thanks =)
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I hope this wasn't on purpose for the sake of overheating?
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It doesn't overheat from charging, but from using it (Navigation, recording, video...). AC charging does no harm in this respect (nor does it help).
You'll notice it when something is running and the brightness is on full - USB charging will not feed the phone and it will start to discharge.

So is this a problem at the charger end if so I have a belkin 1amp charger I can use.
I understand the data pins have to be shorted for it to see the AC mode.
In my power menu both the chargers I have say AC whether plugged in through the dock
or just to the cable and charger without the dock.
surely this means its OK or would show usb am I wrong?
I've opened the dock and can't see for the life of me the name on the pins +
my soldering skills are a bit much to be desired when working this small
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colemanuk said:
So is this a problem at the charger end if so I have a belkin 1amp charger I can use.
I understand the data pins have to be shorted for it to see the AC mode.
In my power menu both the chargers I have say AC whether plugged in through the dock
or just to the cable and charger without the dock.surely this means its OK or would show DC am I wrong?
I've opened the dock and can't see for the life of me the name on the pins +
my soldering skills are a bit much to be desired when working this small
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No, the problem is inside the cradle itself - even though pins on your charger are shorted, they are not even connected through the cradle connector. You have to short them at the cradle connector.
Btw all chargers will work as AC then
Strange that it shows AC for you, are you sure it's right? Can you make a photo of the connector? Maybe you got a different revision or something...

zvieratko said:
No, the problem is inside the cradle itself - even though pins on your charger are shorted, they are not even connected through the cradle connector. You have to short them at the cradle connector.
Btw all chargers will work as AC then
Strange that it shows AC for you, are you sure it's right? Can you make a photo of the connector? Maybe you got a different revision or something...
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Yes it definately shows AC for both my chargers whether plugged through the cradle or not.
Does yours show USB or something? Like I said mine does charge all be it very slowly when using copilot.
Is the writing for the pins obvious for you as I swear I have none
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I'll be damned!
Plug phone in dock then plug in charger (shows AC!)
Plug charger in FIRST then put phone in dock shows USB!
In the instructions they say to do it the first way I think.
I wonder if it is charging AC then hmmmmmm?
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I got mine today and found it was charging in AC when I tried either way!

optiknerv said:
I got mine today and found it was charging in AC when I tried either way!
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WTH maybe some of you got an updated version

zvieratko said:
WTH maybe some of you got an updated version
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Gonna go get dressed ( I'm having a lazy morning ) and i will double check but I swear its fine
EDIT : Confirmed mine is fine. I checked with the bundled charger cable as well as my own and whether the plug is in before the HOX is in the cradle or after, power settings shows "Charging AC" in all cases. I haven't seen USB charging at all with the cradle. They must have realised their mistake and fixed it.

Today the car dock Kidigi arrived.
When connecting the phone, I noticed that there is recharged via USB.
Through this tip, Is now loaded by AC ....!
BIG [email protected] zvieratko.
(Sorry for my bad English)

Seems I'm the only one with a working dock out the box!!

Mine is aslo writing AC charge, but it is definitelly not AC charge. Going to fix it

I'm definitely curious how mine is going to work.
Ordered mine last week through ebay, so I hope it's a late build without the problem.
'Cause I don't have a blob or solder or whatever can fix this thing...

Hi guys,
I recently bought one of these Kidigi car mounts for my HTX One X and have found that the battery will slowly drain (about 1% every 10 mins) when I have it docked and am using sat nav (Google Nav or Co-Pilot). My battery app says that the phone is charging (estimates about 6 hours to charge 30%).
I've checked the charging method and it shows that it's charging via AC (not USB).
I've tried a few things like running Co-Pilot in power saving mode, dimming the screen, closing down all over background apps, but my battery still slowly drains.
Do you think this soldering fix might help?
Thanks all.

AC or USB changing
Hi, i've brought various chargers off ebay and other sources and even when the phone reports AC charging i've had leads that use wire so thin that the phone cant get the high current charging to work.

Check that your adapter is providing more than 500 mA. Certainly I've had no trouble with it charging the phone while navigating.

I have a question regarding this mod. I bought this charger and am fixing to recenter the microusb port to properly mate with otterbox commuter case still on. The OP states to just short the 2 data pins together, but I'm wondering if I should do this with a resistor to load balance the lines or if that is even necessary?