Help Can't charge!! - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

My himalaya has stopped charging through the cradle or car charger. It syncs and charges through the usb and my wired sat nav connects up but neither method charges my phone anymore. Obviously the battery will die down quick when I use my tom tom so I need that to work and only being able to charge via usb is a pain and inconvienient.
What can I do to fix it??

What kind of charging connector your PDA has? ie. my universal has a mini usb, it is used to charge/sync, it can be done at the same time, on the contrary an old Ipaq (series H38XX & H39XX) had two different ways for power to arrive to the PDA, this means that you could charge it with its charger or via usb while syncing or just charge via usb.
Why am I asking this?
In this way I'm trying to understand if you could have a problem with a connector/cable (different connector for charging with the craddle/car charger and usb charging) or you could have other problems.
If it's possible for you, take some pictures of your pda's syncing and/or charging connector, to your craddle, car charger and usb syncing/charging cable.
Possible causes for your problem are:
Defective craddle/car chargers, defects can be not the chargers themselves, but the cables that go from the chargers to the PDA.
Defective/unsoldered PDA power/charging connector, it is not so unusual that after you pull the cable too hard, without pressing the unlocking secures (in case your cables have them), accidentally hit your charging cable/craddle or the PDA itself while they are tied togheter you cause a malfunction due to a false contact or a broken cable.
See if one of this might be the cause in your case, how? Can you have a borrowed craddle/car charger to verify if yours are ok?
Try to move the charging cable/craddle or the PDA (easy and carefully) to see if the PDA begins to charge.
Let me know how it goes.

unfortunately I don't know anyone that has an XDA - so no other chargers unless I try the o2 shop.
THe XDA has a cradle with a usb connector that can charge and sync and also a mains lead which plugs into the cradle or there is a little adaptor piece(which I've lost) which plugs straight into the xda to charge. I stiooed using that because it would push in properly.
My thoughts are that its the PDA itself as the car charger was only bought december whilst I have had the PDA and cradle since 2004 and they both stopped charging at the same time. The adaptor stopped chargin in the summer.

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Charging a TMobile MDA PRo in the Car

Hi, I have a TMobile MDA Pro and i have purchased an in car charger so that I can use it with TomTom satnav unit, slight problem, unit does not charge when in the car. Bizarre, as when I use the standard USB Charge & Sync cable with PC happily syncs and charges with no issues. Anyone any ideas, does there have to be a specific setting on the unit to enable it to accept charge via the cigarette socket in car?
Many thanks
I found that to charge the universal, pins 4 and 5 in the mini USB plug need to get joined together - by default pin 5 is not connected to anything (well, wasn't in the cable I had). I've made that modification, and am powering a couple of devices of of a 2 port hub in the car.
Cheers,
Steve
Hi, sounds like a problem I am having and meaning to ask about.
I've got a USB cigy lighter adapter and tried plugging in the sync lead to provide power when it's in the car. So if I have my Exec in standby the charge light will come on (I think it charges sitting on the today screen, but not to sure) but as soon as I fire up tomtom the charging light goes off....
Does this sound like your problem, or are you not charging at all?
I'm interested in finding out what I need to charge the Exec while it's running tomtom? Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers
Matt
I'm pretty certain that I didn't get a charge light at all with my cable until I modified it, then it works, as expected, including in TomTom.
To confirm what I've got is:
- A Ciggy to USB socket adapter
- A two port hub plugged into the adapter
- Modified cable into the hub (along with an unmodified cable connected to my BT-77 GPS unit).
Plugging the cable (prior to modification) directly into the adapter, rather than the hub, didn't work either. The Brodit all-in-one adapter/cable worked fine (and I still have it intact, but not in use), but if memory serve, pins 4 & 5 appear to be connected. I used a multi-meter to try and find out why that one worked, and my combination didn't.
All of this stuff is wired in behind the centre console, so I've not got any unsightly wires, or anything.
Cheers,
Steve.
I think you need a car charger that can output 1000mA to charge the Universal. Same requirement also for an AC charger. 1000mA is what's important. Cheers
Hi, We have had quite a few customers with this issue, we advised and they have opted for the brodit active mounts which have the inbuilt cig chargers and it has cured the problem, or for the neater solution they went for the Molex hardwired versions to stash the cables behind the dash area,
The codes are: 968649 for the cig charger version or 971649 for the Molex hardwired version, http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/T-Mobile+MDA Pro-Brodit-Holder.asp
Hope that helps, drop me a line if you need any advice,
Thanks again
Bryson
Found 1A 5V car adapter
this is the only place I found off ebay that has a 1A car adapter
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-CIGAR-CIG...4QQihZ006QQcategoryZ15329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It works fine on my MDA Pro, just need to plug it in while it is off for it to start charging.. if turned on, then pluged in, then it won't start charging.
I even have an 800mA adapter, but that doesn't help the MDA Pro, it needs more power!
bryson said:
Hi, We have had quite a few customers with this issue, we advised and they have opted for the brodit active mounts which have the inbuilt cig chargers and it has cured the problem, or for the neater solution they went for the Molex hardwired versions to stash the cables behind the dash area,
The codes are: 968649 for the cig charger version or 971649 for the Molex hardwired version, http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/T-Mobile+MDA Pro-Brodit-Holder.asp
Hope that helps, drop me a line if you need any advice,
Thanks again
Bryson
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Hi there Bryson
The items you quoted are actually the charger and the holder for the PDA. I also notice from the link you provided that there are 2 cig chargers (items codes 942625 and 942650). Can I know what are the differences between these 2 models and would either of this chargers charge the Universal while it is running a navigation software such as TomTom or Garmin Que?
Also, do you ship to Singapore?

Cradle charger with AC adapter doesn't work

Hi,
Just purchased a cradle for the universal which has a USB and an AC adapter connection.
The USB works fine for charging the Universal.
The AC Adapter connection on the other hand doesn't charge the PDA at all.
I thought I remember reading something concerning a fix for this but can't seem to find the post for it.
Any body got the solution for it or do I have a faulty cradle?
Thanks.
I would change usb cable
modem_man said:
Hi,
Just purchased a cradle for the universal which has a USB and an AC adapter connection.
The USB works fine for charging the Universal.
The AC Adapter connection on the other hand doesn't charge the PDA at all.
I thought I remember reading something concerning a fix for this but can't seem to find the post for it.
Any body got the solution for it or do I have a faulty cradle?
Thanks.
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Did you ever find a solution to this?, I have the desktop charger jobby. The grey one that looks like a docking station. It has an ac adapter and a usb out on it .. but like you the charger doesn't seem to work.
p.s its the one with the stylus that stands up straight at the back.
Nope.....
Never found a solution for it.
Dam...
Does your original jasjar/xda exec charger work? mine doesn't.. only my 5v dc 550ma motorola charger works ... oh and the usb direct cable works..
Does you pda charge while sat in the cradle with just the usb attached?
Here's what I have working:
FYI, I have the Qtek 9000.
Original Power Charger - working
Aftermarket Car Adapter charger from Proclip - working
Aftermarket Desktop Charger (AC powered) - NOT working
Aftermarket Desktop USB plug - working
Aftermarket USB cables - working (at least the ones I've tried = 3)
Joe,
I remember reading that you should be careful of what you plug in to power up your HTC-Universal because the voltage needs to be regulated.
Also, don't even go buy those Alkaline battery powered travel charger - they don't work. I even tried with a 9V Altoid Tin Battery Charger (with the required 5V USB regulator) and it didn't work.
I just gave up and carry 2 batteries with me. Planning on getting a bigger battery later on.
Hope that helps.
modem_man said:
Here's what I have working:
FYI, I have the Qtek 9000.
Original Power Charger - working
Aftermarket Car Adapter charger from Proclip - working
Aftermarket Desktop Charger (AC powered) - NOT working
Aftermarket Desktop USB plug - working
Aftermarket USB cables - working (at least the ones I've tried = 3)
Joe,
I remember reading that you should be careful of what you plug in to power up your HTC-Universal because the voltage needs to be regulated.
Also, don't even go buy those Alkaline battery powered travel charger - they don't work. I even tried with a 9V Altoid Tin Battery Charger (with the required 5V USB regulator) and it didn't work.
I just gave up and carry 2 batteries with me. Planning on getting a bigger battery later on.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the reply,
Just checked on the web and the moto charger is regulated so it should be fine to use, I was thinking that my original charger may be buggered but because my new desktop charger doesn't work either I don't know what it could be. I'll need to try my cradle with just the usb attached tonight and see if it charges... if it does thats ok .. I can live with that.
My Cradle has a built in usb cable for the pc and a separate dc in socket for the wall adapter so unless it switches between the two i'm thinking that maybe the pins for charging are hardwired to the wall adapter and the data to the pc so it will only charge from the wall and not from the pc..
Maybe I shouldn't have bought such a cheap one
Joe,
I believe I might have the same cradle as you do.
I've open up the cradle to see how the connection is soldered and the points for the ground and powered seemed soldered into the USB port correctly.
I do remember reading something concerning the pins for the USB are wired differently (last 2 pins are shorted - on the Universal-wiki I think) for powered USB charge. Maybe that's why the cradle AC charger doesn't work while the USB cable works.
FYI, I've tried putting both the AC and the USB and you'll find that having the AC in is useless....you're just wasting electricity cos the PDA is still being charged by the cable (just turn off you PC and you'll find that the PDA is not charging).
Does your cradle have the annoying blue LED?
I think all aftermarket cradles are created equal = "CRAP"
If somebody out there have a cradle that have AC that works, please post where you bought it so that others will know which one to get.
modem_man said:
Joe,
I believe I might have the same cradle as you do.
I've open up the cradle to see how the connection is soldered and the points for the ground and powered seemed soldered into the USB port correctly.
I do remember reading something concerning the pins for the USB are wired differently (last 2 pins are shorted - on the Universal-wiki I think) for powered USB charge. Maybe that's why the cradle AC charger doesn't work while the USB cable works.
FYI, I've tried putting both the AC and the USB and you'll find that having the AC in is useless....you're just wasting electricity cos the PDA is still being charged by the cable (just turn off you PC and you'll find that the PDA is not charging).
Does your cradle have the annoying blue LED?
I think all aftermarket cradles are created equal = "CRAP"
If somebody out there have a cradle that have AC that works, please post where you bought it so that others will know which one to get.
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Sounds like I have the same cradle as you fella , I've tried the usb on its own and it seems to charge ok .. I tested it by putting a movie on and leaving it plugged in, started at 67% its now 77% so its charging through the usb.. dam it .. I could probably send the cradle back since I wanted it mainly for AC charging. Wish there was another one I could get that worked!
Thinking of getting this one instead:
http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/product.php/28408/0/
What dya think?
joe....
According to this guy on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1097137&posted=1#post1097137
his is working just fine.
If you can return it for another one, maybe you'll get one that's working properly.
i'm thinking maybe we have pda's from the same manufacture date.. and the hardware revisions are different and thats why our desktop chargers dont work, surely its not coincidence that both of ours dont work?
And if thats the case getting another of the same won't do much good.. theres just no way to be sure about any of this, think I may just send it back and try a different one entirely
Joe,
Good luck!

cradle not charging

Hi All
Since 2 days ago my cradle stopped charging via the mains. It charges the battery separately in the back and It syncs fine but nothing happens when I plug the mains in. However it does charge the XDA when it is sync'd and in the car
any ideas???
The XDA i have is a XDA iis (blueangel PH20B) with my cradle (desktop stand)it charges either with mains adaptor or will charge via the usb cable without the mains connected. What XDA do you have also what is the cradle part no.
I have the XDA II (Himalayer PH10B).
I don't get why it will sync & charge and mains charge the battery separately but won't mains charge in the cradle.
it sounds like a fault with the cradle, if you can check it against another one
maybe a friend has got one if not ask at the phone shops,see if anyone has got one in and get them to check it for you.
my xda2 cradle had a pretty poor connector
sometimes it would sync and charge something not
(was a bit of an issue in the middle of a flash :S)
changed to my old xda1 cradle and no problems
no car charging either
update:
I don't think its the cradle after all as its not charging in the car now either but the wired sat nav is still working.
could it be a lose connection in the XDA itself?

TyTN won't charge with car charger??

Hi,
I recently bought a car charger (actually, it's a 3-in-1 kit, with USB-2-miniUSB cable, plug-in car charger, and travel charger). This set seems not to work with my TyTn, but work perfectly with other HTC pda's - Touch, Cruise etc. However, that cable works nicely when plugged to PC.
Anyone have a clue? Maybe, I should change some power management settings in the TyTN?
Thanx
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Sometimes is charging O.K. (when the screen is off and Hermes is in Standby). But if I have a Phone Call, or if I use the car navigation, charging won´t work.
(Everythink was O.K. with WM5, I think, but WM6 and WM6.1 has this problem on my Hermes - I tried many ROMs, now I use CRCs PHKv12r9, Radio 1.47.30.10)
Get an inverter from Maplins http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48723&criteria=inverter&doy=3m4 for £19.99 you can then use your home charger...
Ah OK scratch that idea I didn't look at the flags before posting...
I have one, but the question is, why car charger won´t work.
I use the inverter with everything up to 300W without any problems.
I dont understand WHY people have this problem.... I bought a CHEAP little car charger that allows me to use a usb cable. I plug in, leave for a minute or so and it starts charging. Make/ recieve calls, use GPS software and never have a problem. I would say that the charger was made good BUT its a generic "made in china" charger.... Must've been BLOODY LUCKY to find it...
I had this problem with mine, sometimes it would charge, other times it would need to be restarted before picking up the charger? This was using the same sort of charger that plugged into the lighter socket, then the USB-to-MiniUSB plugged into the charger.
I started using a spare charger for a TomTom One which worked perfectly.
In fact, I have 2 car chargers to which I plug USB-mini cable, both not working. I just wonder why... Can it be hardware or software problem? I suspect you all use WM6.... OK with WM5?
I can't find the post now, but there have been a couple of discussions about the charging issues with the TyTN. My TyTN is very picky about the charging cable. It has something to do with a requirement that the data pin in the USB cable either be connected to something live(like a computer) or that the data pin be jumpered to the ground pin.
I have tried a number of charging solutions and keep going back to the AT&T store for a charger that works. I have an external battery for my laptop from Battery Geek, Inc that has both a USB port on it and a mini USB charging cable. Both don't work with my TyTN but work with my wife's Wizard. Actually they work with my TyTN about 2% of the time, just enough to make me think it is going to work.
Someplace back in the archives I've seen a description of how to modify a USB charging cable to work with the TyTN, but I can't find it right now.
Rick
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[Q] Not sure how charger works on this phone?

Anyone know what needs plugging in to get this phone to charge please? I have always used it with both cables plugged in. Suddenly I am trying not to bother using the USB cable and it only charges in the cradle for a minute or so before the orange light goes off. With the phone plugged in OR with the battery plugged into the slot on the cradle. (therefore this doesnt seem to be to do with the charging circuits in the phone itself). I dont think it has always done this.
So I tried plugging the USB cable back in and hey presto, my brand new battery starts to charge properly.
Does anyone know if this means that the ac adapter connected to the cradle is malfunctioning and not putting out enough power? Or enough power constantly enough to continue putting out the necessary 5v? Or is it only supposed to work with both cables plugged in? When I unplug the ac adapter, the battery stops charging so I cant figure out where the cradle is getting its 5v to charge! Other have reported, worryingly, that the unit should charge with the USB cable alone.
I did look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282983 but they all talk about after market chargers not working, whereas I am pretty sure mine is the original Siemens sx66 charger. Does anyone think that the adapter is failing and eventually BOTH the power cable AND the USB cable wont put out enough power to charge the unit?

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