Does it always have to be pda starting activesync using bluetooth manager? Or can it be pc's bluetooth initiating it without pda intervention?
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jang said:
Does it always have to be pda starting activesync using bluetooth manager? Or can it be pc's bluetooth initiating it without pda intervention?
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Since you can start activesync (that is after connection !) on the PC using MS Activesync (The application). I think there could verry well be the same option on BT...
Put more important: What do you want to do, and why ?
It's difficult to get cellphone signal in our area. I have to leave cellphone by the window sill to have signal. I'm currently using Jeyo Mobile something, to send receive sms through pc. Once I remove cellphone from the window, to enable BT, phone signal will be off. I plan to leave it there as soon as I get home, and use PC to initiate BT connection, and use Jeyo immediately. I don't want to get the Blue Angel and start activesync via BT.
jang said:
It's difficult to get cellphone signal in our area. I have to leave cellphone by the window sill to have signal. I'm currently using Jeyo Mobile something, to send receive sms through pc. Once I remove cellphone from the window, to enable BT, phone signal will be off. I plan to leave it there as soon as I get home, and use PC to initiate BT connection, and use Jeyo immediately. I don't want to get the Blue Angel and start activesync via BT.
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You could chose for the option to try activesync each xx minutes, that would cause a connection to the PC when it gets in range....
Do you cradle it in the window ? Maybe you could set 'activesync when cradled' to BT ? It would also start a connection...
You mean I can start activesync from my pc as long as my blue angel's BT is on? Without me having to press anything on the blue angel?
no, you will have to set "sync every xx minutes" on the PPC..
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I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?
I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?
My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.
You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.
wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.
wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.
About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm
nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino
OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino
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hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks
Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?
Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .
Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.
@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.
nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich
Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich
...I have just upgraded to T-Mobile 1.42 and decided to subscribe to T-Mobile UK's Instant Email using Blackberry Connect. This of course uses GPRS and works perfectly wherever I go.
At work, however, I often leave my phone cradled. When I 'sync-up' to the PC, I lose my GPRS connection, and forcing a connect drops the ActiveSync connection. As such, Instant E-Mail stops working.
Some may argue that if I am synced up, I instantly get all my e-mails through the cable anyways, but in fact I also get personal e-mails via Instant Email.
1) Is the disconnecting normal behaviour?
2) Is there any way of keeping a GPRS connection whilst ActiveSyncing?
3) If not, is there any other way of using BB Connect in this state?
Regards,
Darren
disconnecting is normal behaviour - I have not found a way to avoid it
Hi!!!
It´s normal, you only have one chance, sync or GPRS.........if you want to conect by GPRS while your PDA is in the cradle you sholud disable USB conection on active sync
PD:excuse me for me english
1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
2. I can sync my Artemis with PC Outlook software by cable or by Bluetooth without any problem. Would it be possible somehow to sync by WiFi as well? Presumably it would be quicker than Bluetooth.
cheers,
ctibor
For your works PC check what version of Active Sync is installed, I don't have the Orbit but both my HTC Artemis and MDA-CIII will connect and surf the net via a cabled connection - can't comment on sync over Wi-Fi as I have never bothered with it. I find it easier to plug the devices in each night to sync and charge - Mike
ctibor said:
1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
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You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked
victoradjei said:
You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked
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Yes, it IS ticked.
But anyway, thanks.
on device
start>settings>connection>wifi>network adapters
set 'my network card connects to' to 'the internet'
on pc
open activesync
file>connection settings
set 'this computer connects to' to 'the internet'
should be all fine then.
I cannot seem to get ICS to work properly (win xp pro sp2)
I plug my laptop USB cable into the 8525, the laptop immediately initiates a connection between it and the 8525.
Laptop msg "local area conection 10 is now connected"
On the 8525, I go to ICS and click connect via USB.
Laptop msg "local area connection 14 is now connected"
IP looks like it was assigned but... i cant connect to internet on laptop. The tcp/ip connection details shows 11 packets sent... 0 received.
Any help would be very appreciates.
You don't have your Laptop's WiFi radio on, do you?
Also, ck to see in the ActiveSync settings if you have the dialog to allow wireless connections ck'd.
Tried the above suggestion... still nothing. I looked at the connection information (after selecting connect using ICS) and I do have an IP address but no gateway..
I see packets transmitted but 0 received.
there is a whole help section on your phone just click the help icon and type internet sharing
you have to uncheck the allow usb connections
its really simple to set up and get working really. Also use the search button up there and there many threads just on this topic.
scmguru said:
I cannot seem to get ICS to work properly (win xp pro sp2)
I plug my laptop USB cable into the 8525, the laptop immediately initiates a connection between it and the 8525.
Laptop msg "local area conection 10 is now connected"
On the 8525, I go to ICS and click connect via USB.
Laptop msg "local area connection 14 is now connected"
IP looks like it was assigned but... i cant connect to internet on laptop. The tcp/ip connection details shows 11 packets sent... 0 received.
Any help would be very appreciates.
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I find it is best to activate Internet Sharing first, then press connect to activate the data connection to your cell provider, after that is says "check cable connection", at this time, connect the USB. Screen changes to connected and all is working.
If I connect the USB first, then my Vista laptop goes to connect via "Windows Mobile Device Centre"
hope that helps
tried all of the suggestions but still no good....... my ICS is working on windows xp but it aint working in vista
ICS cause a blue Screen
All,
I am using the wm6 verions rom and ICS causes my Win XP sp2 pc to blue screen. Any ideas. I could have swore it worked after reflashing it.
Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks
I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.
Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers
It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.
USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
TangerineTractor said:
I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
toosas said:
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!
This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs
Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)