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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

How to disable internet passthrough in ActiveSync?

Is there a way to disable the internet passthrough in activesync? I use a remote software that allows me to use my phone on my PC when docked, SOTI pocket controller. So I like being docked at work, however (this is where this question gets weird)... my work has disabled the port to access MSN messenger on our network, I want to be able to sign in from time to time so I thought using my PPC would be great! However the internet passthrough in active sync means that it won't access the MSN messenger port either, because it's using the same network, so if I undock and connect using GPRS I can use messenger, so what I want to do is be docked still but have my device use GPRS internet instead of the passthrough, this way I can sign on to messenger while docked. Does this make sense? Respond if I'm not being clear enough. I have found web versions of messenger that work, it's just too slow for me and gets in the way, if I could use my PPC it would be just perfect! Thanks in advance, it's a weird one so hopefully someone will have a suggestion that will tickle my fancy out there!

I would like to know the answer to this as well. I have GL installed and cannot retrive new messages while my SX66 is docked.

As much knowledge as there is out there, this one seems to have the experts stumped.
Lots of people asking the question on the net and no answers.

I'm surprised no one has replied to this yet.... It's actually pretty easy to fix. Right click the ActiveSync icon in your tray and click connection settings, change "this computer is connected to" from 'the internet' or 'automatic' to work network. Your phone should no longer look for a connection through AS on these settings.

Doesn't work for me. The wireless data connection is immediately terminated on the phone once the USB cable is plugged in, regardless of how the XP ActiveSync software is configured.

That's rather odd, I used to do just that to make my AIM go through my phone rather than the computer while using MyMobiler.

gboybama said:
As much knowledge as there is out there, this one seems to have the experts stumped.
Lots of people asking the question on the net and no answers.
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have you tried the 'This computer is connected to:' and select 'Work Network', in the Connection settings dialogue box?
edit1: wow, typed this weeks ago, Google chrome saved the page till today...
edit2: on your phone, In connection settings in My Work Network, under the Proxy Settings tab, is 'This network connects to the internet' ticked? try un-ticking it if it is...

Work or "The Internet" it doesn't matter what I select on ActiveSync. It still disables the H on my phone as soon as I connect the USB cable.
For connections on my phone, all I have even in the list of connections is MEdia Net. I can't uncheck Internet there or else I wouldn't get Internet while disconnected.
Despite the fact that my only existing connection on the Settings/Connection page is MEdia Net and that only is set for "Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)" I still can only access the Internet through my work server when connected to my work desktop.
I noticed the same behavior when syncing via Bluetooth. As soon as the connection with ActiveSync is established, wireless connectivity is shut off.

My apologies for the kick, but if someone knows the aswer, please enlighten me!
I cannot disable the internet pass-through either, not even when I select "Network (work)" in "This computer is connected to" in the Windows Mobile Device Center (The Vista version of ActiveSync).
I have set-up Exchange on my phone, which connects to domain.com. My Exchange server runs in my network, so when I connect the phone it should connect to 192.168.1.2 instead of domain.com. If it would stay on HSDPA, then the connection would remain OK. Because of this, it won't sinc with my PC either, because it keeps hanging on connecting to ActiveSync (of which the server cannot be resolved).
Many thanks to the person who knows the answer!

This thing is a bigger pain than it should be, that's for sure. I think I got it working - simultaneously syncing via Exchange over GSM and locally through USB (obviously not the same items).
In my setup Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, and Tasks are using the mobile network to connect to our Exchange server's external Push interface. Notes, Mobile Favorites, Files, and OneNote are syncing through USB or Bluetooth (I tried both) when I connect locally.
I'm currently running Vista on this PC so things might be different on XP or Windows 7. On the PC in Windows Mobile Device Center I enabled "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC" and changed "This computer is connected to:" Work Network.
In Windows Mobile, in the connections manager, edit the existing connection. MEdia Net shouldn't have a proxy set and under the Advanced tab click Select Networks - if the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network" is set to My Work Network then make sure and edit the settings to have "This network connects to the Internet" unchecked. Or alternatively, just change the private network to be Media Net as well. That should do it.

On your pc if you open up ActiveSync and go to file>connection settings and make sure "allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" is checked you should be able to keep your mobile internet connection up while still connected to a pc.

BUG? in ActiveSync configuration on WM6?

When configuring Activesync, you would choose which connection for it to use to sync with exchange server and in the WM5 I would pick My ISP but on the WM6 "Internet" is the only options in the drop down menu.
Shouldn't it be listing all avaiable connections you have added in the Connection settings?
Maybe a bug? or is there a setting where I select connection type for "Internet" on WM6?
Thanks
Bill

In the connections dialogue you select what My ISP (or whatever you use, i.e mine is 'O2') connects to, which is usually the internet.
When you set activesync to connect via the internet it will use ANY connection which does just that. So if you are connected via the USB to your pc it will connect to the internet through that. If you are disconnected from your PC it will use your GPRS instead.
I dont think it is a 'bug' really. Does your activesync work as desired?

mrvanx said:
In the connections dialogue you select what My ISP (or whatever you use, i.e mine is 'O2') connects to, which is usually the internet.
When you set activesync to connect via the internet it will use ANY connection which does just that. So if you are connected via the USB to your pc it will connect to the internet through that. If you are disconnected from your PC it will use your GPRS instead.
I dont think it is a 'bug' really. Does your activesync work as desired?
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Yeah Activesync seem to be working fine but in WM5 it wouldn't work with connections that uses proxy and it would allow me to select a connection in the drop down menu that doesn't have proxy setting ie "My ISP"
Perhaps the new Activesync now works with proxy.
As far I can tell it's working fine.

Mine does not - I have to manually use activesync to get mail from the Exchange Server. Push does not seem to work. There is another thread on this here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297781
It is really annoying me at the moment as I canot find a workaround.
It seems that activesync can find the GPRS when I do a manual Sync, but has a warning that i do not have a cellular internet connection. Odd. I originally used the Orange .cab files to set up the connections, I then deleted them and recreated the connection manually which made no difference.
Any ideas would be welcome!

I have a similar problem. I'm not sure if it's the same or not. Help would be appreciated...
When my Hermes is roaming everything in hunky-dory, GPRS, HSDPA, Push-Email... all is running smooth. BUT...
When I Activesync (I have "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" unchecked - as advised in this thread), the hermes initially drops any wireless connections, then, instead of using the PC's broadband (as per WM5 & Activesync 4.2) to sync with Exchange it tries to dial up to GPRS again. Sync ultimately fails with error code 85020006. This webpage says the problem is "The Connection Manager could not find a path to the destination.
- OR -
Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct, and try again"
This is annoying as I have SPB Insight installed which I want to use the PC's connection to update all the channels, as well as sync with Exchange.
EDIT: I tried this before among other things and it didn't work but now it seems to be working OK. The only thing I can think that has fixed it is changing "This computer is connected to:" The Internet

well i also have WM 6 installed on my device and when i configured AS to sync with mail2web exchange server it stopped accessing the Internet when connected to the PC via USB/ AS.... whenever i try to access the Internet when the device is cradled the device opens the GPRS connection and connects to the net.... how do i get AS to connect to the net when cradled and not GPRS... and the exchange sync gives an error MSG 85020006...
someone please help me.... its really very frustrating not being able to connect to the net when connected via USB/ AS...
thank u

nahguam said:
I have a similar problem. I'm not sure if it's the same or not. Help would be appreciated...
When my Hermes is roaming everything in hunky-dory, GPRS, HSDPA, Push-Email... all is running smooth. BUT...
When I Activesync (I have "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" unchecked - as advised in this thread), the hermes initially drops any wireless connections, then, instead of using the PC's broadband (as per WM5 & Activesync 4.2) to sync with Exchange it tries to dial up to GPRS again. Sync ultimately fails with error code 85020006. This webpage says the problem is "The Connection Manager could not find a path to the destination.
- OR -
Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct, and try again"
This is annoying as I have SPB Insight installed which I want to use the PC's connection to update all the channels, as well as sync with Exchange.
EDIT: I tried this before among other things and it didn't work but now it seems to be working OK. The only thing I can think that has fixed it is changing "This computer is connected to:" The Internet
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This solved my problem....thank you so much!

share intenet TO my HD through USB and Activesync?

HI
I'm trying to share internet using the USB cable and activesync, I already configured my internet connection to share it with the new "local area connection" created when the HD is plugged in, but it doesn't work!
and by the way my computer has an IP:192.168.1.X, but the local area connection has an IP:192.168.2.X
really I even don't know if this is possible, but I did it with my old palm then I thought it can be possible.
thanks!

Using usb or bluetooth with activesync will share in automatic the PC internet connection without the need to set internet connection sharing on the pc

koji_nanami said:
Using usb or bluetooth with activesync will share in automatic the PC internet connection without the need to set internet connection sharing on the pc
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Either with OR without my HD can't see the internet connection on PC with active sync over USB.

Huh
I just plug my HTC Touch HD into the usb port and select "Internet sharing" and it comes up straight away, even works from scratch on windows 7 cos i tested it!

tp2 tethering (tmobile version)

Ok. So I went through the user manual. I installed Microsoft Activesync 4.5 on my HP Netbook and connected my phone via usb. From here i am lost. According to the manual it says that my phone is supposed to say connect to pc with a "internet sharing"option. that option is not there. The only options available are connect via active sync with outlook or disk drive. Am I missing something? I combed through the manual and searched the web and still could not find the solution. Any help will be appreciated and I'm sorry if this has been posted before but i could not find anything on this.

i just did this for my self last week..
the help section ON your phone is where i got this info...
first, disconect your phone from your computer..
then open active sinc on your computer...
click "file" then click "connection settings"
a new window will open.
UNCHECK "allow usb connections.
close active sinc.
plug your phone in.
on your phone tap to connect via "active sync"
now, on your phone go to "programs"
then "internet sharing"
it should now show on your phone,
status
pc connection
make it USB
network connection
should say tmobiel data.
at botom of screen, hit the "connect" tab, if it didnt auto connect..
if done properly status will show it connecting then finaly connect.
your computer will then automatically get an ip adress from tmobile... and then in a few moments you should be able to use computer internet normally...
i notice that it likes to drop connections periodically... all you need to do is go back into the internet sharing on yoru phone and just tap "connect" again and it reconects.

You can leave all the active sync settings at stock.
Plug in the phone and it will make the activesync connection, go to the program menu on the phone and click internet Sharing. Under PC connection it will say USB, Network is Tmobile.
Click connect and it will automatically shut down activesync and start the connection sharing...
In short...
Connect to computer. Activesync should start automatically.
Start Internest Sharing on the phone.
Click Connect
Done....