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I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?
I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?
My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.
You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.
wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.
wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.
About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm
nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino
OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino
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hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks
Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?
Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .
Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.
@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.
nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich
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azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich
1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
2. I can sync my Artemis with PC Outlook software by cable or by Bluetooth without any problem. Would it be possible somehow to sync by WiFi as well? Presumably it would be quicker than Bluetooth.
cheers,
ctibor
For your works PC check what version of Active Sync is installed, I don't have the Orbit but both my HTC Artemis and MDA-CIII will connect and surf the net via a cabled connection - can't comment on sync over Wi-Fi as I have never bothered with it. I find it easier to plug the devices in each night to sync and charge - Mike
ctibor said:
1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
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You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked
victoradjei said:
You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked
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Yes, it IS ticked.
But anyway, thanks.
on device
start>settings>connection>wifi>network adapters
set 'my network card connects to' to 'the internet'
on pc
open activesync
file>connection settings
set 'this computer connects to' to 'the internet'
should be all fine then.
hi ,
is it possible to connect my P3300 to the internet through USB that is connected to my desktop with windows ?
thanks in advance
p.s
i read the manuel and it doesn't mention
Hanan
Yes, it is.
Just connect it to your pc. That's it.
Through Active Sync it will automatically recognize an existing internet connection. Works even via Bluetooth. You just neen an Active Sync Partnership with the device and then you connect it the way you want, Internet connection will then be shared
Fellows.
I was digging into the search an could find nothing about it.
I had my excalibur working properly and after a hard reset, I was unable to reactivate this function.
I'm telling about use USB cable to share PC internet connection to HTC. I mean, navigate over the internet (with HTC) using USB cable conection instead of WIFI or GPRS alike.
When I sync my mobile, it automatically disables the WIFI connection, but I can't navigate just through USB connection.
Any thoughts?
thanks
joaonavarini said:
Fellows.
I was digging into the search an could find nothing about it.
I had my excalibur working properly and after a hard reset, I was unable to reactivate this function.
I'm telling about use USB cable to share PC internet connection to HTC. I mean, navigate over the internet (with HTC) using USB cable conection instead of WIFI or GPRS alike.
When I sync my mobile, it automatically disables the WIFI connection, but I can't navigate just through USB connection.
Any thoughts?
thanks
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maybe this will help.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1057589&postcount=4
tried that.... no luck...
Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?
redrazr7791 said:
I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?
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I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.
Mastoid said:
I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.
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Well...I have been wondering if you could share the internet connection from a broadband card between a laptop and mobile phone (connected via USB cable). I guess I will just have to try it out when my phone gets here.
That is the other way around
You have described phone internet sharing or tethering.
What I meant is like this:
1. Your desktop PC is connected to internet
2. Connect your phone to the PC using USB cable
3. You can now browse the internet in your phone ... using internet connection from the PC.
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
Well, we can forget about this ... I have searched last night and Android simply cant do it.
Why we need this? Sometimes, at work, we cant connect our phone to the office WiFi and 3G is not available.
Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I also have this need.
In case HTC ships updates on-the-air it would be much better not to lose some of the limited 2GB data plan per month I have.
Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?
That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
wuthton said:
Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?
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gogol said:
That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
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Screw security policy! ;?P
Using a adhoc connection would be the simplest (and best?). But if you can't (not allowed) to set up a adhoc connection, you could (unless bridging is forbidden, but then tere's not much you can do..) connect a wifi router/ap to your ethernet card (if it's in use, use a USB-version). Bridge your network connection with the ethernet card and the router/ap and then connect to that..
A long shot? Perhaps! But it should work. If you set the ap to not broadcast its SSID it's harder for others to detect..
And you should be able to run a router/ap on batteries..
Just an idea.. :?D
gogol said:
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
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Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
Mastoid said:
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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gogol said:
I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
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I agree and it's a shame... this was useful when I had it working on my WM device.
Mastoid said:
Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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Could someone please explain how to do this. I can see how to set up the ad-hoc network and to set it allow internet sharing. But a wi-fi scan on my HTC Desire does not find the network.
unfortunately reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which quite frankly is very annoying, hopwfully they will fix this in an upcoming ROM or something.
[q] same prblm but diff device
i have an android tablet. I want 2 connect to the net. But dont have wifi @ home. any way to connect my ericsson phone (or any other 3g modem) via bluetooth or usb(yes the tab acts as a usb mass storage host) to connect to the net as the tab doesn't hav a sim card port. And my tab is Augen Gentouch78 v2 tab not rooted and with stock rom
Any help would be appreciated
gogol said:
Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.
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I don't think that there is a way to do this at the moment with out flashing a Rom, however I'm using RCMix S GingerSense Rom, it seems that HTC Sense version 2.1 has added "internet pass-through" as a option when you plug the phone into a PC, however will HTC leave this in if/when they do an official release I don't know.
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Yeah, if you install a sense 2.0 or 2.1 Rom it has an internet pass through option which allows you do do that
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