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Hi,
I'm writing some software that needs to send data over the internet using GPRS.
The problem we've had in the past is that users of our software would play with the gprs connections settings or fire up the wap browser or something and that would prevent our software from connecting properly.
What I'd like to be able to do is manually connect to gprs from within our program but specify our own settings for GPRS rather than leaving it up to the connection manager.
I've been exploring TAPI and the lineXXXX functions, but I get the feeling this is a dead end....
If it makes a difference, our original software was written for the XDA1 but I'm writing the replacement for the XDA2 and have access to all the new fancy stuff in PPC 2003
Cheers in advance for any help you can give,
M
I am trying to dial up to Cingular (in the US) GPRS using my Blue Angel. It actually works very well using the ol' *99# method, but that's only when the phone is already disconnected from GPRS. Is there a command I can send to the phone to make it disconnect from its GPRS connection. The error Windows gives is "phone line busy," which makes complete sense.
as you are able to link the pda with the phone? through the BT
Thank you
This is with a laptop. Everything works as it would on another phone, except for one thing. It will say the modem is busy if the XDA is already connected to GPRS.
I have Skype runing fine on my PDA2K using WIFI however it doesn't seem to work at all well when I have only a GPRS connection.
I have a Vodafone SE V800 3G/UTMS phone and had 3G data working with an IPAQ 5550 although didn't get a chance to try it with Skype before getting my PDA2K.
Unfortunately the dialup networking client option that was in the bluetooth manager on the IPAQ appears to be missing on the PDA2K. Somebody has done this before on a XDA II see http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58&PN=1
however it looks like it is with an old version of the MS BT stack which I cannot load on to my device.
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Radio Ver: 1.06.00
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ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
Using broadcom BT-PPC/PE version 1.0.0 Build 3500
Any ideas.
Graham :?
Which GPRS service offering are you using? If you are using the bulk MediaNet from Cingular then I suspect if won't work. That GPRS connection is designed to support WAP and email only, so it only allows the use of certain ports. I don't know which ports SKYPE uses, but I don't think it's limited to Port 80.
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
grahamp said:
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
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The PDA2K is a 2.5G device - so 3G will not be possible through it.
Are you able to connect to other non-web services via your GPRS connection such as email or msn or the likes? I know with O2 you have an O2 Active connection for web/wap and Mobile Internet for everything else.
You could try to get a freeware telnet client and telnet to the skype server on port 80 to see if it can resolve and reach it - this is one way to prove if your connection will allow it.
Both O2 2.5G (PDA2k) and my Vodafone 3G connections (v800) work no problem. I have a connection from my PDA2K to my 3G phone using the 3G modem in the V800 phone across the infrared connection and Skype connects and works. I however want to use Bluetooth rather than infrared as I have to hold my v800 phone right opposite the infrared port on my PDA2K for it all to work. I can't however find a way to create a bluetooth dial up networking connection to my V800 on the PDA2K. On my IPAQ 5550 I had a Bluetooth dial-up connection to the same phone and it worked fine on 3G. :roll:
they troubleshooted that problem at some time (Bt dial up) of our BT
Greetings
GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
veletron said:
GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
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I was talking on skype over GPRS yesterday. Worked flawlessly. No delay on voice and no cutting of voice.
True, with the wrong GPRS plan you run up a cost, but otherwise it works fine.
3G's major flaw is the bandwidth limitation per AP. At 2mbit it just doesn't work well in populated areas. Besides, most 3G operators frown upon VoIP and file transfers over their network, hence trying to block it. Skype is hard to block since it cleverly looks for open ports, however, that causes voice cutouts and delays.
Hah! Try T-Mobile GPRS lmao. There is no way you can use SKYPE with TMO in US. NO WAY! If someone says you can there are full of sh.. I have a PDA2K and a XDA IIs. I tested them both with GPRS and it sounds like shi.. The only way SKYPE will work with no problems is with WIFI.
Vodafone 3G here in the UK maximum upload speed is 64kbps which IMHO should be enough for SKYPE latency could be a problem though. Unfortunately no futher forward in getting my PDA2K to dial up to 3G phone using Bluetooth. Does anybody know of a cradle that can hold the PDA2K and V800 so that the infrared ports face each other :lol:
Buying an xda2s and will join soon
You might look a bit like dom jollie when walking down the street though LOL. I use a voip and sip client on my 5550 and use this by the multitude of wifi access points around London.I have a voip pbx back at the office that i connect to and make calls from(out to the real world not to just other skype users) I have tried skype over GPRS 3G and wifi and found because of the limited bandwidth it worked in lumps of seconds at a time but was not consistant enough to be able to hold a conversation for longer than a couple of seconds (via gprs - Voda uk) and 3Gwork slightly smoother but still not as consistant as on wifi.This i can only put down to congestion on the networks.. Anyway i suppose i ambiased as i have access to pbx voip remotely..Another cheap way to make calls..LOL :lol:
Regards
Marquee
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Thank you for reading this, I really need your help.
Two options: which one below is true or possible?
1- It is possilbe to Connect my Laptop to internet via Dialup connect. on pocketpc phone? and connect my Laptop to pockect pc phone via Bluetooth.
Or should I use the dialup connection on my laptop to connect to internet using Wireless modem on my pocket pc phone?
does this make sense?
I have Siemens SX66.
You must be a mind reader because I was going to ask the same question.
Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated
I've successfully connected my XDAIIs to laptop for internet access.
On USB craddle, you can
1. Laptop connected to internet ( dial up / lan / whatever ) --> XDAIIs sits on craddle and connect to Active sync ---> XDAIIs can access internet
2. Use XDAIIs as the dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need "HTC HUB" modem driver.
IrDA, you can
1. Use XDAIIs as the "Virtual" dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need IrCOMM2k for emulating IrDA port on your laptop to see XDAIIs as its modem on its com port.
Bluetooth
This one i never try. I don't have bluetooth on my laptop :-(
As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...
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On USB craddle, you can
1. Laptop connected to internet ( dial up / lan / whatever ) --> XDAIIs sits on craddle and connect to Active sync ---> XDAIIs can access internet
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Thank you my friend, This one I already know it.
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2. Use XDAIIs as the dial up modem via GPRS
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Yes, --------GPRS -------- I do not like to use GPRS. I want to use my PocketPC Phone number and dial to an ISP using my ISP account.
Can you help me this. I can connect my Laptop to my Pockect PC phone via BlueTooth dialup connection modem (in my pocket pc phone), but how can I connect my pocket pc phone to the internet using ISP dialup modem and not GPRS.
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IrDA, you can
1. Use XDAIIs as the "Virtual" dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need IrCOMM2k for emulating IrDA port on your laptop to see XDAIIs as its modem on its com port.
Bluetooth
This one i never try. I don't have bluetooth on my laptop :-(
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thank you, btw: I WAS ABLE TO open my Laptop and put the USB BT dongle inside my laptop and this way, I have no problem, MY laptop is BT enabled now , if you like that here is a link: http://www3.telus.net/thewitt/BT/
hdubli said:
As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...
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Thank you my friend, but if you get my previous reply, I want to conneted to the internet using my mobile number by dialing up an ISP account and not GPRS as I HATE GPRS, it is unreasonably expensive.
Can you help on this. I have searched and searched and searched...
Hi there,
Follow the steps below.Kindly note that to access your ISP, your SIM card should have Data Services enabled from your service provider.Also, the dial up number should be PSTN Number....viz nos start from 1 cannot be dialed from a GSM Network.Check thiis with your Network service provider.
1.FIrst of all pair your device with your laptop BT, so that your laptop checks the services which your PDA offers viz Serialport,DUN., Activesync etc...
2.Now, go to Network connections on your Laptop and opt for make a new connection.Just take care that you should opt for Bluetooth Modem while selecting the Modem.Rest all is same as you had done for your ISP.
3.Now, just dial the connection...your phone shd be able to maka a data call.
Pls let me know if you were able to do so...Best Luck
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Hi there,
Follow the steps below.Kindly note that to access your ISP, your SIM card should have Data Services enabled from your service provider.Also, the dial up number should be PSTN Number....viz nos start from 1 cannot be dialed from a GSM Network.Check thiis with your Network service provider.
1.FIrst of all pair your device with your laptop BT, so that your laptop checks the services which your PDA offers viz Serialport,DUN., Activesync etc...
2.Now, go to Network connections on your Laptop and opt for make a new connection.Just take care that you should opt for Bluetooth Modem while selecting the Modem.Rest all is same as you had done for your ISP.
3.Now, just dial the connection...your phone shd be able to maka a data call.
Pls let me know if you were able to do so...Best Luck
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Thank you hdubli, I will try it and let you.
How about direct dial up to ISP/PSTN from pda phone?
Can we do that?
Imagine, go anywhere only with pda phone.
Yes one can do that For doing so one has to select the "Cellular Line" while making a new connection on phone and input the dial up number provided by service provider..I suggest consult your service provider for doijg this
sherko said:
hdubli said:
As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...
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Thank you my friend, but if you get my previous reply, I want to conneted to the internet using my mobile number by dialing up an ISP account and not GPRS as I HATE GPRS, it is unreasonably expensive.
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You can only get up to 9.6kbps dialing up to an ISP account (CSD service, typically USD$9.99/mo). With GPRS you can get at least 28.8kbps... That's why GPRS is more expensive (typically USD$19.99/mo)...
Now unless you plan to just browse gopher sites (gopher://quux.org/)... I don't think CSD is worth the trouble...
Can you help on this. I have searched and searched and searched...
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GPRS is fine, but expensive in the UK. It is £2.35 per MB with an 02 monthly contract. Unless you get an 02 Pay As You Go SIM and 'bolt on' 02 Active5. It's £4 for 5mb.
If you use simple old fashioned dialup PSTN/ISDN you can use (for example) a free 0845 dialup (UK2.net) and use your bundled minutes instead.
OK it's slower, but I just want email headers and have over 800 minutes rolled over this month!!
Rich
Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks
I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.
Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers
It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.
USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
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I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!
This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs
Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)