Hello together,
because I want to work with Voice-Dial controlled from a BT-Headset, I try to find a solution for upgrading the BT-stack.
Also would this allow to use BT-Headset for music and video....(Mediaplayer,etc.)
Did anyone have an idea in which way we can integrate a headset-profil??
May be, anyone can post the related files and registry-entries from a other device, that uses Widcomm/Broadcom-Stack.
Thanx
Delfin
Handsfree - would be nice for the BMW Car BT as well
Yes, the handsfree Profile in the MDA III is missing and it hurts badly. I can't make it work with my BMW BT Carkit.
Does anyone know how to integrate Handsfree into the MDA III?
I alos would like to see this get fixed.
Just before this site had technical difficulties and lost several weeks worth of posts, there was a thread on this very topic.
It seem to me that progress was being made, but the current BT Profile only allows for Phone audio, not audio from device.
Even the not so good iPAQ 6315 had audion from device support.
I suppose first that I-Mate should fix the BT Profile all together, which is unstable on my PDA2K.
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
Nighthawk said:
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
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...Hmmmm....
In a recent online conversation with a "club i-mate" tech rep- I asked about the so-called "Hands Free" profile they advertise the PDA2K as being compliant with....
ME: "My other bluetooth phone would allow me to simply speak the contacts name via my wireless headset and the phone would dial.....With my PDA2K I have to actually use the phone to dial out.......This is not a 'TRUE Handsfree OPeration'....."
Club i-mate: "True."
ME: "So the PDA2K doesn't really support 'Hands Free' profile as advertised, but rather ONLY 'Headset' profile?"
Club i-mate: "Yes."
I have been VERY pleased with all of my PDA2K EXCEPT for the Bluetooth functions. They totally dropped the ball with the Bluetooth on this device....
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
Nighthawk said:
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
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Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
Again, this is not a true hands free mode- and it is entirely a limitation of the firmware/bluetooth radio stack Carrier Devices is using in the PDA2K at this time....
...for instance, with my SE T610, I could leave my phone in my jacket pocket or briefcase- in the trunk of my car, and still activate/voice dial anyone in my contact list simply by pressing one button on my wireless headset....
...as well, I could accept incoming calls just the same, as a tone would be heard in the headset, and a single press would accept the call. The PDA2K will not allow this. My PDA2K will not automatically find/activate my headset when an incoming call is made- it wont even let me use the headset 'unless' I have an active link to it- but when you keep an active link to ANY bluetooth headset and turn the unit off, it will repeatedly turn itself back on and run the battery nearly dead in a couple hours. I discovered this the hard way.
ABSOLUTELY USELESS bluetooth software in the PDA2K.....
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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"...simply turn it on AND press a button on the headset and call is answered..."
Would you care to exaggerate here?
When I recieve calls, if I do not have an active link to my bluetooth headsets, I cannot answer with them... I must first go inot bluetooth manager and click on headset and click on 'connect'- which can take more than a few seconds each time I do....
I have tried this woth my Motorola, several Bluespoon's and my in-car handsfree system.... None will work unless the connection was made 'live' before the call, and then the PDA2K will not stay shut off, thus draining the battery...........
babj615 said:
Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
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I think part of problem is the required button press, which isn't required on your other phones.
BlueAngel and BT Headset
d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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When you have your bluetooth headset connected and the PDA enters the standby mode (for example, you don't use it for few minutes), if you receive a call does the headset automatically reconnect?
I'm using 9090 with Nokia HDW-3 BT headset, and I'm in trouble when I put my PDA in stand by leaving BT activated and the headset connected. It seems that after few minutes of standby the headset disconnects, but PDA's BT led is still flashing... Maybe is there any power saving feature in PDA's bluetooth stack so when in standby it disconnects the headset?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
Also microsoft voice command does not support activation by bluetooth headsets, its not a fault of the imate, just no software to accept the voice dial command from the bluetooth headset
BMW BT with XDAII?
Would you please irblinx be more specific about how have you been able to made ANY kind of call through your XDAII?
My BMW series 5 built in BT hands free simply fails to Connect to the XDAII. I'm carrying a SE T68 just to use my car hands free system. Stupid way of using an 1000+ $ BMW extra.
Any help is wellcome!
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some confusion here (at least partly due to O2 giving the new model a confusing name!), the xda II does NOT work with car kits.
Only the new IIs works
Headset profile for PDA2K/9090
Sorry for my poor English
I need "HEADSET profile" for my PDA2K
Now all headset work with headset and hands free, but i nead "force" the headset mode with PDA2K
In headset mode (no hands free) I can use one headset for more devices, like PDA2K, notebbok, cellular phone.
In hands free mode the headset work with a device at time.
Regards
I think I read all of the VoiceCommand 1.6 & Bluetooth threads and tried any of the solutions (0.9f , manual regedit, BTVoiceCommand.exe ... )
But probably I missed something.
First question I could not find an answer for:
How is VoiceCommand supposed to be started after the fix:
a) Does it only work starting VoiceCommand with a Button on the Bluetooth device
b) Should it also work using a Button on the Hermes ?
If the answer is a): My Cars Device has a Button to start calls. If you do not dial a number, then this button redials the last called Number. Is this the right "command" that VoiceCommand listenes for to start ?
If not: Is there a possibility to change VoiceCommand to react to this "command" ?
Is there kind of a Bluetooth- Sniffer to find out, which commands are exchanged between the car and the phone to probably fix this ?
Am I totally wrong and all I need is another Version of WM6 ?
Can anyone help me ?
Thanx
Tode
P.S.: It did not work using the original WM5- OS from T-Mobile Germany, and (Radio 1.1x ) and it still does not work with Schaps WM6 3.30a in german, that I actually use (Radio 1.41.00.10)
Voice command can be activated from your hermes and indeed needs to be mapped to button five on the hermes which is the button on the left hand side below the ok button.
In all my many installations on the hermes it seems to map to button 1 (internet explorer) by default and needs to be changed in start>settings>personal>buttons.
My understanding - and I'm no expert - is that the button push on your bluetooth headset merely activates voice command. in order to do a 'redial' you need to activate VC and say 'redial'.
I would say VC overides the usual behaviour of headset and phone functions.
The 'button' you push on your car stereo would need to activate VC.
Never heard of such a sniffer but I assume that if it is set up correctly then the activation from the car stereo should replicate the button push from a headset and fire up VC.
Have you tried pairing a bluetooth headset first just to make sure VC and the fix has installed properly? It's very temperamental and I generally have to install it quite a few times before the combination of reg edits and power off/resets get it stable.
Oh and I forgot to say that if you have any evidence of Cyberon Voice Commander on the device it almost certainly wont work - seems to be a clash. I chose the cleanest rom I could find (LSVW) and had to remove all the voice commander cabs and fixes from the ext rom the hard reset. This seemed to work once I had added the reg edit to make sure the button was firing up BTVoiceCommand and not BTVCBasic.
found an old B-Speech Headset...
at the moment I am trying a Hard reset and Remove of all Cyberon- Registry Entries etc. Probably it will work with a "clean" new Install.
Thanx for your Tipps, I will tell if it worked.
Tode
ok... With my Bluetooth Headset I finally got it to work: I press the Button on the headset, and VoiceCommand starts correctly over the Headset.
BUT: The Button 5 still uses the Hermes' speaker / microphone.
AND: The button in my Car does NOT work the same: It does NOT start VoiceCommand but still recalls the last dialled Number.
So there are two possibilities for me to solve the Problem:
if I could make the Button 5 start Voicecommand over the Headset and NOT over the Handset, then my Problem would be solved. Does this work somehow ?
if I could make VoiceCommand react on the command comming from my Car, instead of redialling the last Number, then it would be ok as well.
Any suggestions ?
Thanx
Tode
Hi all
As this is my first post I just want to say a big thankyou for all the contributers to this site, awesome information and keep up the good work.
I have been running Black Majik on my M3100 for a week or so now and have been really impressed. the only slightly annoying problem I have is with my BT Stereo headset (HTC BH S100) which I have had only a couple of days.
Listening to music and controlling the media player(s) (Audio Manager and WMP) is fine, the problem I get is answering/initiating calls from the headset. After a reboot of the phone, the headset works OK for both music and calls, but after turning the headset off/on, the call handling functions don't work although wireless stereo does - its as though the phone loses the headset profile but not wireless stero. Stopping/Starting the BT stack from comm manger seems to reinstate the headset functions but this is frustrating!
I have searched multiple forums but have not found anything of use yet!!
Does anyone have any ideas
Thanks in advance
M.
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same problem
please help us
Up ... Same WM6 version, same problem ... with a Nokia BT Headset, and a Sony Ericsson too ...
Thank you.
guess i have a worse problem then. cant hear my phone ring from my BT HS. not that ive tried to figure it out. i can live without listening to music. but it would be interesting to know how everyone is able to hear their phone ring from their headsets. im thinking its because of my headset. i have a moto hs810. does anybody concur?
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Hi all
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After a reboot of the phone, the headset works OK for both music and calls, but after turning the headset off/on, the call handling functions don't work although wireless stereo does - its as though the phone loses the headset profile but not wireless stero. Stopping/Starting the BT stack from comm manger seems to reinstate the headset functions but this is frustrating!
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M.
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I have the same problem and I've tried a P3600 and kaiser and the same problem.
As merlynuk wrote the problem seem that the HD lose a free hand function of it profile and only a reset and sometime a pairng od device solve it.
It's for me important to use this function in car or call a voice command but the MTB button seem not work.
bought this HD because belived it would be perfect with a HTC PDA but it's not really.
Do you have some suggestion ?
Do you believe it's better to sell this HD and to buy another ?
Someone know a HD device thet work perfectly as free hand and function as a call, a start a vocal command etc etc work fine ?
Regards
aladino
got the same problem: bought the HTC BH S100 after my touch cruise cause I thought to have no problem with vocal commands, but it doesn't work. music, player control, phone and pairing are perfect but no vocal dialling..
how can we solve this??
I have installed VC 1.6 and all works fine except one thing :
if i want to redirect the audio to the BT Headset ( for tomtom commands or WMP music ) i can use some utility like BTAudioON/OFF/Toggle but after an incoming call / Voice command all return as before and only the internal speaker is used ( expect during voice dialing of course ) and i have to re-issue a BTAudioON manually.
How can i get this situation :
1. push talk on the BT Headset
2. issuing : "Start tomtom navigator"
3. Tomtom starts and audio is redirected to the BT Headset even after voice dialing period expired.
4. shut down BT headset.
5. internal speaker is used as usual
6. switch on BT headset again
7. internal speaker disabled and audio is forwarded again to the BT Headset
It is possible ?
Quick answer is 'It depends'
If the headset has a 'Headset' service then yes, if it only has a 'handsfree' service then without using something to redirect the output then no.
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Quick answer is 'It depends'
If the headset has a 'Headset' service then yes, if it only has a 'handsfree' service then without using something to redirect the output then no.
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The profile of my headset ( motorola H3 ) is only 'handsfree' so im am searching something 'clever' that redirect the audio output on/off after phone calls.
Tried BlueMusic 2.0 that claims to behave like before but doesn't restore after phone calls.
Hey!
I'm a proud owner of this bt stereo headset. Everything works fine except of small hissing when playing music. Can't do a thing about it. If anyone can help... thanx a lot. But my main question is: Qtek has a Voice recognition software. Is there a possibility, how to make one of the buttons on the headset, starting the ms voice recognizer software and make commands only by talking to headset? Because I don't see a meaning of this software if i have to pull my qtek of my case and open it, then push the button on it, and tell the device "What Time Is It?" because i can see it on the display already.
Thanks guys