Hello together,
because I want to work with Voice-Dial controlled from a BT-Headset, I try to find a solution for upgrading the BT-stack.
Also would this allow to use BT-Headset for music and video....(Mediaplayer,etc.)
Did anyone have an idea in which way we can integrate a headset-profil??
May be, anyone can post the related files and registry-entries from a other device, that uses Widcomm/Broadcom-Stack.
Thanx
Delfin
Handsfree - would be nice for the BMW Car BT as well
Yes, the handsfree Profile in the MDA III is missing and it hurts badly. I can't make it work with my BMW BT Carkit.
Does anyone know how to integrate Handsfree into the MDA III?
I alos would like to see this get fixed.
Just before this site had technical difficulties and lost several weeks worth of posts, there was a thread on this very topic.
It seem to me that progress was being made, but the current BT Profile only allows for Phone audio, not audio from device.
Even the not so good iPAQ 6315 had audion from device support.
I suppose first that I-Mate should fix the BT Profile all together, which is unstable on my PDA2K.
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
Nighthawk said:
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
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...Hmmmm....
In a recent online conversation with a "club i-mate" tech rep- I asked about the so-called "Hands Free" profile they advertise the PDA2K as being compliant with....
ME: "My other bluetooth phone would allow me to simply speak the contacts name via my wireless headset and the phone would dial.....With my PDA2K I have to actually use the phone to dial out.......This is not a 'TRUE Handsfree OPeration'....."
Club i-mate: "True."
ME: "So the PDA2K doesn't really support 'Hands Free' profile as advertised, but rather ONLY 'Headset' profile?"
Club i-mate: "Yes."
I have been VERY pleased with all of my PDA2K EXCEPT for the Bluetooth functions. They totally dropped the ball with the Bluetooth on this device....
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
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Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
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Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
Again, this is not a true hands free mode- and it is entirely a limitation of the firmware/bluetooth radio stack Carrier Devices is using in the PDA2K at this time....
...for instance, with my SE T610, I could leave my phone in my jacket pocket or briefcase- in the trunk of my car, and still activate/voice dial anyone in my contact list simply by pressing one button on my wireless headset....
...as well, I could accept incoming calls just the same, as a tone would be heard in the headset, and a single press would accept the call. The PDA2K will not allow this. My PDA2K will not automatically find/activate my headset when an incoming call is made- it wont even let me use the headset 'unless' I have an active link to it- but when you keep an active link to ANY bluetooth headset and turn the unit off, it will repeatedly turn itself back on and run the battery nearly dead in a couple hours. I discovered this the hard way.
ABSOLUTELY USELESS bluetooth software in the PDA2K.....
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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"...simply turn it on AND press a button on the headset and call is answered..."
Would you care to exaggerate here?
When I recieve calls, if I do not have an active link to my bluetooth headsets, I cannot answer with them... I must first go inot bluetooth manager and click on headset and click on 'connect'- which can take more than a few seconds each time I do....
I have tried this woth my Motorola, several Bluespoon's and my in-car handsfree system.... None will work unless the connection was made 'live' before the call, and then the PDA2K will not stay shut off, thus draining the battery...........
babj615 said:
Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
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I think part of problem is the required button press, which isn't required on your other phones.
BlueAngel and BT Headset
d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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When you have your bluetooth headset connected and the PDA enters the standby mode (for example, you don't use it for few minutes), if you receive a call does the headset automatically reconnect?
I'm using 9090 with Nokia HDW-3 BT headset, and I'm in trouble when I put my PDA in stand by leaving BT activated and the headset connected. It seems that after few minutes of standby the headset disconnects, but PDA's BT led is still flashing... Maybe is there any power saving feature in PDA's bluetooth stack so when in standby it disconnects the headset?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
Also microsoft voice command does not support activation by bluetooth headsets, its not a fault of the imate, just no software to accept the voice dial command from the bluetooth headset
BMW BT with XDAII?
Would you please irblinx be more specific about how have you been able to made ANY kind of call through your XDAII?
My BMW series 5 built in BT hands free simply fails to Connect to the XDAII. I'm carrying a SE T68 just to use my car hands free system. Stupid way of using an 1000+ $ BMW extra.
Any help is wellcome!
:?
some confusion here (at least partly due to O2 giving the new model a confusing name!), the xda II does NOT work with car kits.
Only the new IIs works
Headset profile for PDA2K/9090
Sorry for my poor English
I need "HEADSET profile" for my PDA2K
Now all headset work with headset and hands free, but i nead "force" the headset mode with PDA2K
In headset mode (no hands free) I can use one headset for more devices, like PDA2K, notebbok, cellular phone.
In hands free mode the headset work with a device at time.
Regards
Related
Has anyone been sucessfull in using a Hands Free System in any Automobile with the PDA2K? If so what is your Bluetooth Stack & is it modified? Is there a Modified Bluetooth Stack out there able to work in a Hands Free System? There must be someone out there who can make the Right Bluetooth Stack for the PDA2K!!!! :roll: :idea:
I use a parrot CK3000 in my car (I used it with my nokia 6310i before)
It does what it has to do , except for the audio volume setting (I talked to parrot and this will be solved in the next carkit firmware)
I used my 6310i to set the initial volume
Hi,
I have Sonyericssons Bluetooth handsfree HCB-30. It work like a dream. Connects perfect every time. I don't even think about if it have connect to the hands free or not. Work even better with my Qtek 9090 then with my P910.
I have the XDA2s working with the SE HCB-30 in my Audi with absolutely no problems so far. BT stack is 3500.
Rajesh
I use my MDA III with the build in Audi BT handsfree (Cullmann third generation).
I do have problems with the volume control (always jumps back to min) and even worse the connection is lost when I get an incoming call. The ring sound is still coming via the handsfree-speakers, but as soon as I pick up (doesn't matter if via green hardware-button or touchscreen) the MDA III shows the handsfree-symbol on top with a "?" in it and I have to use the MDA III to speak/hear. After I hung up the connection is established again almost immediately (you hear a "pling" sound).
When I make a phone call connection stays up, I can use the handsfree system...
Anyone an idea? What does that question-mark symbol mean?
PEACE AND B WILD!
OK - let me get this straight. This is to those of you who are using a bluetooth headset in your vehicles.
Are you saying that without touching your PDA you are able to press a button on your headset, speak the name of a contact and get connected?
I have been able to do this on every bluetooth phone I have owned, but with my XDA I have to press a button to bring up the voice dial app which then proceeds to try and call a random person in my contacts list.
hfp
I asked ONLY FOR HANDS FREE PROFILE, NOT HEADSET PROFILE. With the latest rom upgrade the HFP does not work. Imate PDA2K supports both the Hfp & the Headset Profile.
Hi all,
I swapped my old O2 G2 BT headset for the new O2 one and have to say I noticed little improvement. I even upgraded to the 3900 build of the stack but no difference. However I then gotta thinking....
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
Well, the audio quality is improved and the range appears to be better. It is still not perfect (or as good as it was on the XDA2) but it is now useable.
I am going to test for the week before I decide if I shall get a refund or not.
Cheers - Rich
Hi Rakh!
Where can I get the BT3900?
Thanks!
ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
Re: BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve qualit
rakh1 said:
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
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the -vol button on the side?
When did you do that? - it doesn't seem to do anything on mine??
Thanks
--ian
Hi, yes the -vol button on the side. Switch it off (red light) wait 5 secs and then hold the -vol button for 15 (yes fifteen) seconds!
R
Hi,
Nope - still doesn't seem to do anything on mine. Either i'm doing something wrong or it only works on the xdaIIs and not the M2000 (they are suposed to be the same hardware but it might be a software thing).
Thanks anyway,
--ian
-vol button on the side of the O2 BT headset - not the XDA2s
Sorry for the confusion but I didn;t figure out what you were doing unitl now
Rich
Ahhhhh - doh!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I have a Jabra BT250 - and yes I was using the vol- on the phone
--ian
Jabra phones default to the headset program. Holding in the +Volume button on the headset while setting up for pairing turns on the optional Hands-free profile. This is just hte opposite of what the original post was about. The original poster had a G2 headset which defaults to Hands-free, but can be forced to Headset Profile.
Hi,
So what's the difference between headset and hands free?
--ian
Hands-free enables support for voice dialling etc etc etc. Headset simply allows you to use the mic and earpiece of the headset. I presume that the added functionality of the hands-free protocols take some of the 'bandwidth' from the voice part of the protocol and as a result exagerate the bad sound quality...???
R
Jabra headset
Hi to everyone!
I'm a Jabra user myself but I can't seem to enjoy the last number called redial feature with my XDA2 device (with ROM by Dr. Stein).
Any suggestions on how I can use this feature?
Thank you very much!
i have a motorola HS850.
it defaults to handsfree
anyone knows how to force it to headset?
it used to work such that when I open the boom on an incoming call, the call will automatically be answered.
now it doesnt work that way..
it just waits for either the bluetooth action button or the green answer button on xda iis to be pressed..
i have downgraded by BT [ recently upgraded to 3900 ] back to 3500 and the Motorola HS850 can auto answer whenever the boom is opened..
Guess 3900 is not perfect anymore
My HS850 works fine with BT 3900
Perfectly clear. Not tried switching handsfree to headset tho.
jabra bt 250
i m using a JAbra bt 250 and a qtek 9090..i tried the setting...but dont kno if it worked...in my shortcuts..it says hands-free connction to jabra..but i want it to be headset...coz thers too much of crackling right now..?
I've recently acquired one of these headsets and have managed 2 pair it with my O2 XDA II mini. However, i am unable to stream music to the headset but am able to answer calls and make them too. Does anyone know how i could stream music from my phone to my headset?
if you check in the forum for your pda, i believe you will find you have to upgrade your bluetooth software?
then you will find new menu's in the bluetooth settings including audio/audio streaming.
have the headphones, and am very pleased
already have da software
Hey, i already have the software but the thing is nothing appears in the box labelled "default headset" even after i have paired the device with my XDA. And whenever i try 2 stream music, it initially says connecting but eventually the connection fails and the music does not stream to my headset. Does anyone know how i can get the headset to appear in the default headset drop down box?
when you paired the h/set & phone, what choices did you get?
When I turn my headphones on, my handsfree part pairs but my stereo part won't pair automatically, usually. I just connect it manually, but sometimes it won't just connect so I have to disconnect the handsfree part before I connect the stereo part then reconnect the handsfree part. Occassionally, I have to repeat more than once.
Pair it to the device you want stereo from, start the default "Headset" system for normal talking, press the left multifunction to terminate the connection to the "headset" profile, then press the right multifunction button to trigger the "stereo headset" profile to start.
Or, try to force it after pairing and then press the rightmultifunction to accept the connection and have the device bind that call to that function, enabling and disabling the stereo data.
I had to do the first part with my new HP iPAQ hx2495 to get the stereo headset profile going when i installed the headset as both stereo and regular.
I finally got my HT820 working
I have a T-mobile US MDA.
I first upgraded to ROM 2.24 which supports A2DP, which is what the headset uses for sound other than the phone. (When you flash your ROM it intalls all new boot up software so it changes your hard-reset process, and you lose your support.) Then I paired. You should see the services the headset offers, handsfree and stereo. There's also a menu available when you hold-slelect the name of the BT device in the device list that's handy.
I did discover that it is a headset problem if the sound skips out irratically averaging about 20 seconds. There was a bad batch sent out to/from Hong Kong. Motorola is replacing mine, but I had to pay to ship it to them.
Hope this helps!
I don't want to hijack your thread but I don't know where else to turn. I have requested help elswhere on this forum for my problem but I can't seem to get any help.
I have a ht820 and a cingular 8125. I've been able to pair the headset with my phone but, when I try to play a mp3, the voice speed dial comes up, the mp3 plays for about 3 seconds, then the mp3 audio reverts back to the phone.
Do I have to flash to a different rom, do I have to tweak registry settings? I don't really have a clue what I should do. Please help.
Porter
Edit: I've solved my problem. See this thread for my fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58192&highlight=
Thanks
Actually what it sounds like is the phone is only connecting to the headset for that time under the premise of a voice dial with the headset profile. I think you're lucky enough that you can get it to play for those 3 seconds. I have a Sony Ericcson w810i and I can't even get any audio from it to the headset at all without using the w810i's 3.5mm adapter to the patch cable on the headphones which just looks weird. But you might want to do a search for your model phone like this, "Cingular 8125 Motorola HT820" and see what kinda results you get.
I have just obtained a Samsung BT wep210 which is brilliant 'cos it doesn't fall out of my ear. But although it has some handsfree functions, it doesn't do as much as my cheapo unit from ASDA. The Asda one allows me to use voice tags when I depress the button on the headset, but when I do the same on the WEP210 it instantly does a last number redial. Am I doing something stupid?
Thanks
Mike
Not all BT Headsets have the same funtions or same button functions. What does the manual say? My Samsung BT Headset does not give me the possibility to use Voice Dial, although i don't know which one i possess
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Not all BT Headsets have the same funtions or same button functions. What does the manual say? My Samsung BT Headset does not give me the possibility to use Voice Dial, although i don't know which one i possess
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the manual is poor but it definitely makes reference to voice dialling if the phone supports it - which it does as it's a XDA orbit
Also I have discovered that this (Samsung) headset, does not switch itself off if I leave it in the car and walk off with my phone. In one way this is good as I don't have to switch it on again when I get back in, but it makes me wonder how often I am going to have to recharge it.
Thanks
Mike
Hello at all,
I've searched a long time for a solution, but I really couldn't find it.
I have an
- Ameo (same like HTC x7500, with original t-mobile WM6 german) and a
- LG Style-i HBM 700 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CZICHA , for calling.
I had bought a couple of weeks ago a wunderful bluetooth bracelet LM 959. http://www.lm-technologies.com/ci/index.php?/products/details/38
Both, the bracelet and the Style-i want and could connect to my Ameo over the same profile (phone profile, hands-free).
I've tried a couple of days, but it doesn't run as I want:
I want that the bracelet will shake when the phone is ringing (that's normal).
And then I will accept the call with my LG Style-i. If the call finish, all should go again in stand by.
If the next call arrive, the bracelet have to shake first, and so on.
But reality is hard and bad:
If I power on the bracelet, and power on the LG iStyle the bracelet go in sleep and the LG Style-i is active connect to my Ameo. No action's could make the bracelet function, only if I power off the LG Style-i. But than I couldn't take a call (not with this brick on my ear)
I think both are using the same profile (hands-free). And only one could go in active, or ?
Is there a way to let both function, and as I want ?
I would be lucky for any suggestions.. any idea ?
I'm afraid I can't answer that with any experience, but I think the bluesoleil driver will allow connections to two devices.
When someone with more experience comes along, does anyone know if it is possible to connect two devices with different profiles.
I wish to connect my car kit (HFP) and an audio streaming connection (A2DP), to a kaiser, and keep them both connected.
ping, I want infor on this to for my ameo before I buy the bracelet!!
new status:
I've seen, that all entries in the registry between the braclet and the LG style-i are different. Not the channel entry : both are channel 0x2.
I've changed the channel from bracelet in the registry:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Device/001b3500023b
from 0x2 to 0x1.
Bracelet connect with Ameo furthermore, but situation doesn't changed.
Now I will change the ROM from 6 to 6.1 (from original t-mobile 6 to sogarth 6.1) this weekend.
let me see ...
bad story ... sorry.
I've changed the ROM from original t-mob WM6 to sogarth WM 6.1 ROM but without any changes.
I've no solution to connect the bluetoorh bracelet AND the Bluetooth headset at the same time.
Any other idea's ?
please help ...
Not possible afaik. I personally tried it when I had two Motorola s9s and only one would connect at the same time :S.
Does anyone know if you can connect to *different* profile devices?
I want to connect a HFP device and an AD2P device.
ian_c said:
Does anyone know if you can connect to *different* profile devices?
I want to connect a HFP device and an AD2P device.
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Hello all,
I'm currently using wm6.1 build 20273.1.3.3 cook (FInixNOver v3.6) on my Trinity with iDream BTSH01 + Nokia BH-102.
The BTSH01 can act as either "Hands Free" or/and "Wireless Stereo" (A2DP).
I can select which mode I want to use on that device by using the standard "Bluetooth Settings-->Device" menu.
The BH-102 is only an "Hands Free" device.
I successfully can listen music on the iDream and make/receive calls with the Nokia.
As you may guess, my main use of these combination is on the car! the Trinity is used as my MP3 player, my GPS and my phone with ear bud, while its battery is being charged.
The BH-102 works very smooth alone! just need to power it on, wait 2-3 seconds to ear the beep and start to use it, even while receiving a call (it happens a lot while I'm driving!).
That particular cook has the BT sound volume adjustment working very well!
The BTSH01 is tricky to pair... I always have to start it in "pairing" mode and do a BT search on the Trinity (I have a button on the "Today" for that!) to have it work properly. If I not do this way, the music is shopped in 500ms pieces !!!
I can only launch the music/sound app (Mortplayer and/or GPS app) after pairing it. If not, the sound goes out through the internal speaker.
By having the BTSH01 decoding music, the HTC becomes slower (still ok for the GPS app)!
Now, combining both... I'm using both since a couple of days and I still have no procedure to have both running ok (BTSH01 as "Wireless Stereo" and BH-102 as "Hands Free") at first shot!
Sometimes the BTSH01 start to decode my calls, sometimes the BH-102 is not able to pair ... it's always been asked the PIN code.
But, once both are up, I have no more troubles and can start my trip!
i'm using an r35 itech set as handsfree...although it can be switched to include a2dp. however, i also have a sony ericsson car kit that's set for a2dp or wireless stereo. thus, when i'm in the car my u1000 automatically connects to the ericsson and thus streams the music. any calls that come i can answer through my r35. when i leave the car, the ericsson then disconnects with my u1000 (either through range or when i shut off the ignition). my r35 is continuously bonded and thus any calls are answered through it.
i don't think it's really possible to connect 2 bt devices with hands free profiles at the same time. i tried that with both my r35 and ericsson kit....if the first device bonded is my r35 a message appears on my ameo indicating an error when i try to set hands free. it only accepts wireless stereo.
cheers
I don't think so. In my opinion it's not possible. u can use stereo.