BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve quality - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hi all,
I swapped my old O2 G2 BT headset for the new O2 one and have to say I noticed little improvement. I even upgraded to the 3900 build of the stack but no difference. However I then gotta thinking....
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
Well, the audio quality is improved and the range appears to be better. It is still not perfect (or as good as it was on the XDA2) but it is now useable.
I am going to test for the week before I decide if I shall get a refund or not.
Cheers - Rich

Hi Rakh!
Where can I get the BT3900?
Thanks!

ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab

Re: BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve qualit
rakh1 said:
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
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the -vol button on the side?
When did you do that? - it doesn't seem to do anything on mine??
Thanks
--ian

Hi, yes the -vol button on the side. Switch it off (red light) wait 5 secs and then hold the -vol button for 15 (yes fifteen) seconds!
R

Hi,
Nope - still doesn't seem to do anything on mine. Either i'm doing something wrong or it only works on the xdaIIs and not the M2000 (they are suposed to be the same hardware but it might be a software thing).
Thanks anyway,
--ian

-vol button on the side of the O2 BT headset - not the XDA2s
Sorry for the confusion but I didn;t figure out what you were doing unitl now
Rich

Ahhhhh - doh!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I have a Jabra BT250 - and yes I was using the vol- on the phone
--ian

Jabra phones default to the headset program. Holding in the +Volume button on the headset while setting up for pairing turns on the optional Hands-free profile. This is just hte opposite of what the original post was about. The original poster had a G2 headset which defaults to Hands-free, but can be forced to Headset Profile.

Hi,
So what's the difference between headset and hands free?
--ian

Hands-free enables support for voice dialling etc etc etc. Headset simply allows you to use the mic and earpiece of the headset. I presume that the added functionality of the hands-free protocols take some of the 'bandwidth' from the voice part of the protocol and as a result exagerate the bad sound quality...???
R

Jabra headset
Hi to everyone!
I'm a Jabra user myself but I can't seem to enjoy the last number called redial feature with my XDA2 device (with ROM by Dr. Stein).
Any suggestions on how I can use this feature?
Thank you very much!

i have a motorola HS850.
it defaults to handsfree
anyone knows how to force it to headset?
it used to work such that when I open the boom on an incoming call, the call will automatically be answered.
now it doesnt work that way..
it just waits for either the bluetooth action button or the green answer button on xda iis to be pressed..

i have downgraded by BT [ recently upgraded to 3900 ] back to 3500 and the Motorola HS850 can auto answer whenever the boom is opened..
Guess 3900 is not perfect anymore

My HS850 works fine with BT 3900
Perfectly clear. Not tried switching handsfree to headset tho.

jabra bt 250
i m using a JAbra bt 250 and a qtek 9090..i tried the setting...but dont kno if it worked...in my shortcuts..it says hands-free connction to jabra..but i want it to be headset...coz thers too much of crackling right now..?

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Bluetooth / Is there a way to get headset-profil for MDAIII?

Hello together,
because I want to work with Voice-Dial controlled from a BT-Headset, I try to find a solution for upgrading the BT-stack.
Also would this allow to use BT-Headset for music and video....(Mediaplayer,etc.)
Did anyone have an idea in which way we can integrate a headset-profil??
May be, anyone can post the related files and registry-entries from a other device, that uses Widcomm/Broadcom-Stack.
Thanx
Delfin
Handsfree - would be nice for the BMW Car BT as well
Yes, the handsfree Profile in the MDA III is missing and it hurts badly. I can't make it work with my BMW BT Carkit.
Does anyone know how to integrate Handsfree into the MDA III?
I alos would like to see this get fixed.
Just before this site had technical difficulties and lost several weeks worth of posts, there was a thread on this very topic.
It seem to me that progress was being made, but the current BT Profile only allows for Phone audio, not audio from device.
Even the not so good iPAQ 6315 had audion from device support.
I suppose first that I-Mate should fix the BT Profile all together, which is unstable on my PDA2K.
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
Nighthawk said:
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
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...Hmmmm....
In a recent online conversation with a "club i-mate" tech rep- I asked about the so-called "Hands Free" profile they advertise the PDA2K as being compliant with....
ME: "My other bluetooth phone would allow me to simply speak the contacts name via my wireless headset and the phone would dial.....With my PDA2K I have to actually use the phone to dial out.......This is not a 'TRUE Handsfree OPeration'....."
Club i-mate: "True."
ME: "So the PDA2K doesn't really support 'Hands Free' profile as advertised, but rather ONLY 'Headset' profile?"
Club i-mate: "Yes."
I have been VERY pleased with all of my PDA2K EXCEPT for the Bluetooth functions. They totally dropped the ball with the Bluetooth on this device....
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
Nighthawk said:
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
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Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
Again, this is not a true hands free mode- and it is entirely a limitation of the firmware/bluetooth radio stack Carrier Devices is using in the PDA2K at this time....
...for instance, with my SE T610, I could leave my phone in my jacket pocket or briefcase- in the trunk of my car, and still activate/voice dial anyone in my contact list simply by pressing one button on my wireless headset....
...as well, I could accept incoming calls just the same, as a tone would be heard in the headset, and a single press would accept the call. The PDA2K will not allow this. My PDA2K will not automatically find/activate my headset when an incoming call is made- it wont even let me use the headset 'unless' I have an active link to it- but when you keep an active link to ANY bluetooth headset and turn the unit off, it will repeatedly turn itself back on and run the battery nearly dead in a couple hours. I discovered this the hard way.
ABSOLUTELY USELESS bluetooth software in the PDA2K.....
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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"...simply turn it on AND press a button on the headset and call is answered..."
Would you care to exaggerate here?
When I recieve calls, if I do not have an active link to my bluetooth headsets, I cannot answer with them... I must first go inot bluetooth manager and click on headset and click on 'connect'- which can take more than a few seconds each time I do....
I have tried this woth my Motorola, several Bluespoon's and my in-car handsfree system.... None will work unless the connection was made 'live' before the call, and then the PDA2K will not stay shut off, thus draining the battery...........
babj615 said:
Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
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I think part of problem is the required button press, which isn't required on your other phones.
BlueAngel and BT Headset
d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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When you have your bluetooth headset connected and the PDA enters the standby mode (for example, you don't use it for few minutes), if you receive a call does the headset automatically reconnect?
I'm using 9090 with Nokia HDW-3 BT headset, and I'm in trouble when I put my PDA in stand by leaving BT activated and the headset connected. It seems that after few minutes of standby the headset disconnects, but PDA's BT led is still flashing... Maybe is there any power saving feature in PDA's bluetooth stack so when in standby it disconnects the headset?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?
Also microsoft voice command does not support activation by bluetooth headsets, its not a fault of the imate, just no software to accept the voice dial command from the bluetooth headset
BMW BT with XDAII?
Would you please irblinx be more specific about how have you been able to made ANY kind of call through your XDAII?
My BMW series 5 built in BT hands free simply fails to Connect to the XDAII. I'm carrying a SE T68 just to use my car hands free system. Stupid way of using an 1000+ $ BMW extra.
Any help is wellcome!
:?
some confusion here (at least partly due to O2 giving the new model a confusing name!), the xda II does NOT work with car kits.
Only the new IIs works
Headset profile for PDA2K/9090
Sorry for my poor English
I need "HEADSET profile" for my PDA2K
Now all headset work with headset and hands free, but i nead "force" the headset mode with PDA2K
In headset mode (no hands free) I can use one headset for more devices, like PDA2K, notebbok, cellular phone.
In hands free mode the headset work with a device at time.
Regards

Hands Free in Auto with Built in BlueTooth?

Has anyone been sucessfull in using a Hands Free System in any Automobile with the PDA2K? If so what is your Bluetooth Stack & is it modified? Is there a Modified Bluetooth Stack out there able to work in a Hands Free System? There must be someone out there who can make the Right Bluetooth Stack for the PDA2K!!!! :roll: :idea:
I use a parrot CK3000 in my car (I used it with my nokia 6310i before)
It does what it has to do , except for the audio volume setting (I talked to parrot and this will be solved in the next carkit firmware)
I used my 6310i to set the initial volume
Hi,
I have Sonyericssons Bluetooth handsfree HCB-30. It work like a dream. Connects perfect every time. I don't even think about if it have connect to the hands free or not. Work even better with my Qtek 9090 then with my P910.
I have the XDA2s working with the SE HCB-30 in my Audi with absolutely no problems so far. BT stack is 3500.
Rajesh
I use my MDA III with the build in Audi BT handsfree (Cullmann third generation).
I do have problems with the volume control (always jumps back to min) and even worse the connection is lost when I get an incoming call. The ring sound is still coming via the handsfree-speakers, but as soon as I pick up (doesn't matter if via green hardware-button or touchscreen) the MDA III shows the handsfree-symbol on top with a "?" in it and I have to use the MDA III to speak/hear. After I hung up the connection is established again almost immediately (you hear a "pling" sound).
When I make a phone call connection stays up, I can use the handsfree system...
Anyone an idea? What does that question-mark symbol mean?
PEACE AND B WILD!
OK - let me get this straight. This is to those of you who are using a bluetooth headset in your vehicles.
Are you saying that without touching your PDA you are able to press a button on your headset, speak the name of a contact and get connected?
I have been able to do this on every bluetooth phone I have owned, but with my XDA I have to press a button to bring up the voice dial app which then proceeds to try and call a random person in my contacts list.
hfp
I asked ONLY FOR HANDS FREE PROFILE, NOT HEADSET PROFILE. With the latest rom upgrade the HFP does not work. Imate PDA2K supports both the Hfp & the Headset Profile.

no sound on BT

I've read the info on here and can't find the help i need, so heres my question.
XDAIIs 1.42 rom 3900Brodcom BT stack
Pairs with logitech BT headset fine. JUST NO SOUND! I can hear the headset click on/off when i press talk/end on phone. but no sound, also when i press talk or end on headset, nothing happens on device except icon shows headset.
this headset works fine with my razr. any one know any answers?
Thanks!!
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Jasjar- BT Jabra 500 sound Problem

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Hi!
I have i mate JasJar, but there are some problems which are a bit annoying and I will ask you if you can help
Does anybody have problems using BT Jabra 500 working with Jasjar?
I cant hear any of my incoming/outgoing calls nor can I hear a ringing in BT.
Jasjar discover BT and pairing is OK ( just in case I did couple times -no luck)
when I use answer/end button on BT is dialing out but no sound on BT
on other side that I call they can hear my voice but I can't hear anything
Do I need any software to instal in jasjar ???
ROM version 1.13.53 WWE
ROM date 09\23\05
Radio version 1.03.01
Protocol version 42.36.P8
ExRom version 1.13.137 WWE
Please help me out
Thanx
I have BT 500 and have no problems, it sounds like the headset has a problem not the phone.
Also have my own and a client's Jabra 500 working successfully with o2 Xda Execs.
Stupid question I know, but you have tried increasing the volume on the headset buttons?
I did try everything , volume etc , contact jabra and try there sugestion
such as :
could be a pairing issue, or a bad speaker on the BT500. Please try a reset and re-pair of the phone and headset first:
Turn the headset off.
Plug the headset charging cord into a wall outlet.
Connect the headset to the charging cord for 5 seconds.
Disconnect the headset.
Remove the headset from the phone Bluetooth menu.
Turn the phone off.
Remove the battery (and sim card, if removable), and hold out for 5 seconds.
Re-install the battery (and sim card, if applicable) and turn the phone on, but do not touch any settings.
Turn the headset on.
Put the headset into pairing mode by pressing and holding the pairing button until you see a steady blue light. Release the button.
Perform the pairing procedure for the phone.
SIMPLY IS NOT WORKING
try with friend V3 razor and same thing
I also have the BT 500 + jasjar
It just works better than the BT 250 which was my past one.
To be honest, what I have on my jasjar is the new O2 rom upgrade (and that should not do any difference) I think there is something wrong with your jasjar
Maybe you will be forced to try the bad solution HARDREST try the headset with other phones before doing that
i beleive it's the headset that has the problem, since you tried it with another phone.
i have the bt500 with the imate jasjar and also the kjam and it's more than perfect for me, the sound is cristal clear on all the phones i tried on.
maybe you should replace it with a new one.
What I mean is not a factory mistake in the headset
I think the phoen is getting complex and some data have been lost (possible)
By the way, I haven't installed the BT headset fix, yet it works fine.

I had tried many roms but still have problem with BT headset. Please help???

First of all, I would like to says big thank to all rom cooker. You all did a very great roms. However, I still have a little problem that annoy me a lot...
I had connected the stero bluetooth headset with Hermes and choose both "Wireless Stero" and "Headset" profiles in bluetooth setting.
Then when there is incomming call, the Hermes will not ring. So I had a lot of miss calls.
However, if I disable the "Wireless Stero" profile in bluetooth setting, the Hermes will ring normally.
I used to use the Prophet before and there is no problem. The Prophet will ring normally although I choose both profiles.
The stero bluetooth headset is the same, iTech Clip Radio.
I had tried on many roms and found the same problem. So I guess that maybe I have to modify the registry setting to enable ringing on "Wireless Stero" profiles. Can somebody help me to solve the problem please???
I have the same issue and assumed that's how it worked since I just got this Jabra BT8040 that supports wireless stereo. It would only ring through my headset when wireless stero was enabled. If there is a way to get the phone to ring also that would be great. Right now I do the same thing as you, disable the wireless stereo until I need to use it.
My guess is this is by design since all sound is routed to stereo headset then so would the ringer. This isn't an issue for me since the Jabra BT8010 I can turn on/off stereo by simply pressing a button on the headset.
Sorry don't know of a solution.
Thinking about it I guess you could use something like mortscript and make a button that turns stereo pairing on/off to make it simpler I dunno.
I have similar issues with the PAYS rom, when listening to music via my BT earpice (Jabra) where you click the answer button on the earpice it then takes the music from the device and plays it through the jabra ONLY for about 5 seconds and then defaults back to the device?
Any suggestions would be appreciated?

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