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Bluetooth / Is there a way to get headset-profil for MDAIII?

Hello together,
because I want to work with Voice-Dial controlled from a BT-Headset, I try to find a solution for upgrading the BT-stack.
Also would this allow to use BT-Headset for music and video....(Mediaplayer,etc.)
Did anyone have an idea in which way we can integrate a headset-profil??
May be, anyone can post the related files and registry-entries from a other device, that uses Widcomm/Broadcom-Stack.
Thanx
Delfin

Handsfree - would be nice for the BMW Car BT as well
Yes, the handsfree Profile in the MDA III is missing and it hurts badly. I can't make it work with my BMW BT Carkit.
Does anyone know how to integrate Handsfree into the MDA III?

I alos would like to see this get fixed.
Just before this site had technical difficulties and lost several weeks worth of posts, there was a thread on this very topic.
It seem to me that progress was being made, but the current BT Profile only allows for Phone audio, not audio from device.
Even the not so good iPAQ 6315 had audion from device support.
I suppose first that I-Mate should fix the BT Profile all together, which is unstable on my PDA2K.

Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?

Nighthawk said:
Just to clear this up....
The PDA2K does have handsfree profile. The profile only supports handsfree for phone.
What everyone is asking about is the ability to transfer audio from device to a bluetooth device (headset etc.). Is this profile called handsfree or something else, have read posts where someone mentioned it was called a different profile name?
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...Hmmmm....
In a recent online conversation with a "club i-mate" tech rep- I asked about the so-called "Hands Free" profile they advertise the PDA2K as being compliant with....
ME: "My other bluetooth phone would allow me to simply speak the contacts name via my wireless headset and the phone would dial.....With my PDA2K I have to actually use the phone to dial out.......This is not a 'TRUE Handsfree OPeration'....."
Club i-mate: "True."
ME: "So the PDA2K doesn't really support 'Hands Free' profile as advertised, but rather ONLY 'Headset' profile?"
Club i-mate: "Yes."
I have been VERY pleased with all of my PDA2K EXCEPT for the Bluetooth functions. They totally dropped the ball with the Bluetooth on this device....

Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.

Nighthawk said:
Interesting news.
Have you tried with voice software on the PDA2K?
Tomorrow (Saturday night now) I will break out the car kit and headset and see what I can learn. The car kit (nothing special, just Supertooth) allows both headset and handsfree, different button combo to activate.
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Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
Again, this is not a true hands free mode- and it is entirely a limitation of the firmware/bluetooth radio stack Carrier Devices is using in the PDA2K at this time....
...for instance, with my SE T610, I could leave my phone in my jacket pocket or briefcase- in the trunk of my car, and still activate/voice dial anyone in my contact list simply by pressing one button on my wireless headset....
...as well, I could accept incoming calls just the same, as a tone would be heard in the headset, and a single press would accept the call. The PDA2K will not allow this. My PDA2K will not automatically find/activate my headset when an incoming call is made- it wont even let me use the headset 'unless' I have an active link to it- but when you keep an active link to ANY bluetooth headset and turn the unit off, it will repeatedly turn itself back on and run the battery nearly dead in a couple hours. I discovered this the hard way.
ABSOLUTELY USELESS bluetooth software in the PDA2K.....

I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.

d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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"...simply turn it on AND press a button on the headset and call is answered..."
Would you care to exaggerate here?
When I recieve calls, if I do not have an active link to my bluetooth headsets, I cannot answer with them... I must first go inot bluetooth manager and click on headset and click on 'connect'- which can take more than a few seconds each time I do....
I have tried this woth my Motorola, several Bluespoon's and my in-car handsfree system.... None will work unless the connection was made 'live' before the call, and then the PDA2K will not stay shut off, thus draining the battery...........

babj615 said:
Yes, I have Microsoft Voice Command on my PDA2K.
However, It requires activation by pressing a button on the PDA2K- and will only accept voice commands directly- via its own microphone- It will not activate/accept speech via a wireless headset, like ALL my previous bluetooth phones....
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I think part of problem is the required button press, which isn't required on your other phones.

BlueAngel and BT Headset
d3vil said:
I'm using SE HBH60 headset with Qtek 9090, if i receive a call and bt headset is off, i can just simply turn it on and press the button on the headset and the call is answered...If it's on already, i hear a ring in the headset and can answer the call by just pressing the button in the headset.
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When you have your bluetooth headset connected and the PDA enters the standby mode (for example, you don't use it for few minutes), if you receive a call does the headset automatically reconnect?
I'm using 9090 with Nokia HDW-3 BT headset, and I'm in trouble when I put my PDA in stand by leaving BT activated and the headset connected. It seems that after few minutes of standby the headset disconnects, but PDA's BT led is still flashing... Maybe is there any power saving feature in PDA's bluetooth stack so when in standby it disconnects the headset?

BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?

BMW bt car kit
The Xda IIs works fine with handsfree profile BT devices (such as car kits), I have personally tried it with a BMW built in jobby (X5) & a Nokia ck 7w. It also works fine with BT headsets.
I can only assume that the other providers/networks have made the same mistake that O2 did with the XdaII, i.e. use the Microsoft BT stuff which does NOT support hands-free, only headset profiles.
Perhaps one of the clever folk on here can suggest a way to get the O2 version on your phones?

Also microsoft voice command does not support activation by bluetooth headsets, its not a fault of the imate, just no software to accept the voice dial command from the bluetooth headset

BMW BT with XDAII?
Would you please irblinx be more specific about how have you been able to made ANY kind of call through your XDAII?
My BMW series 5 built in BT hands free simply fails to Connect to the XDAII. I'm carrying a SE T68 just to use my car hands free system. Stupid way of using an 1000+ $ BMW extra.
Any help is wellcome!
:?

some confusion here (at least partly due to O2 giving the new model a confusing name!), the xda II does NOT work with car kits.
Only the new IIs works

Headset profile for PDA2K/9090
Sorry for my poor English
I need "HEADSET profile" for my PDA2K
Now all headset work with headset and hands free, but i nead "force" the headset mode with PDA2K
In headset mode (no hands free) I can use one headset for more devices, like PDA2K, notebbok, cellular phone.
In hands free mode the headset work with a device at time.
Regards

Hands Free in Auto with Built in BlueTooth?

Has anyone been sucessfull in using a Hands Free System in any Automobile with the PDA2K? If so what is your Bluetooth Stack & is it modified? Is there a Modified Bluetooth Stack out there able to work in a Hands Free System? There must be someone out there who can make the Right Bluetooth Stack for the PDA2K!!!! :roll: :idea:

I use a parrot CK3000 in my car (I used it with my nokia 6310i before)
It does what it has to do , except for the audio volume setting (I talked to parrot and this will be solved in the next carkit firmware)
I used my 6310i to set the initial volume

Hi,
I have Sonyericssons Bluetooth handsfree HCB-30. It work like a dream. Connects perfect every time. I don't even think about if it have connect to the hands free or not. Work even better with my Qtek 9090 then with my P910.

I have the XDA2s working with the SE HCB-30 in my Audi with absolutely no problems so far. BT stack is 3500.
Rajesh

I use my MDA III with the build in Audi BT handsfree (Cullmann third generation).
I do have problems with the volume control (always jumps back to min) and even worse the connection is lost when I get an incoming call. The ring sound is still coming via the handsfree-speakers, but as soon as I pick up (doesn't matter if via green hardware-button or touchscreen) the MDA III shows the handsfree-symbol on top with a "?" in it and I have to use the MDA III to speak/hear. After I hung up the connection is established again almost immediately (you hear a "pling" sound).
When I make a phone call connection stays up, I can use the handsfree system...
Anyone an idea? What does that question-mark symbol mean?
PEACE AND B WILD!

OK - let me get this straight. This is to those of you who are using a bluetooth headset in your vehicles.
Are you saying that without touching your PDA you are able to press a button on your headset, speak the name of a contact and get connected?
I have been able to do this on every bluetooth phone I have owned, but with my XDA I have to press a button to bring up the voice dial app which then proceeds to try and call a random person in my contacts list.

hfp
I asked ONLY FOR HANDS FREE PROFILE, NOT HEADSET PROFILE. With the latest rom upgrade the HFP does not work. Imate PDA2K supports both the Hfp & the Headset Profile.

BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve quality

Hi all,
I swapped my old O2 G2 BT headset for the new O2 one and have to say I noticed little improvement. I even upgraded to the 3900 build of the stack but no difference. However I then gotta thinking....
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
Well, the audio quality is improved and the range appears to be better. It is still not perfect (or as good as it was on the XDA2) but it is now useable.
I am going to test for the week before I decide if I shall get a refund or not.
Cheers - Rich

Hi Rakh!
Where can I get the BT3900?
Thanks!

ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab

Re: BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve qualit
rakh1 said:
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
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the -vol button on the side?
When did you do that? - it doesn't seem to do anything on mine??
Thanks
--ian

Hi, yes the -vol button on the side. Switch it off (red light) wait 5 secs and then hold the -vol button for 15 (yes fifteen) seconds!
R

Hi,
Nope - still doesn't seem to do anything on mine. Either i'm doing something wrong or it only works on the xdaIIs and not the M2000 (they are suposed to be the same hardware but it might be a software thing).
Thanks anyway,
--ian

-vol button on the side of the O2 BT headset - not the XDA2s
Sorry for the confusion but I didn;t figure out what you were doing unitl now
Rich

Ahhhhh - doh!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I have a Jabra BT250 - and yes I was using the vol- on the phone
--ian

Jabra phones default to the headset program. Holding in the +Volume button on the headset while setting up for pairing turns on the optional Hands-free profile. This is just hte opposite of what the original post was about. The original poster had a G2 headset which defaults to Hands-free, but can be forced to Headset Profile.

Hi,
So what's the difference between headset and hands free?
--ian

Hands-free enables support for voice dialling etc etc etc. Headset simply allows you to use the mic and earpiece of the headset. I presume that the added functionality of the hands-free protocols take some of the 'bandwidth' from the voice part of the protocol and as a result exagerate the bad sound quality...???
R

Jabra headset
Hi to everyone!
I'm a Jabra user myself but I can't seem to enjoy the last number called redial feature with my XDA2 device (with ROM by Dr. Stein).
Any suggestions on how I can use this feature?
Thank you very much!

i have a motorola HS850.
it defaults to handsfree
anyone knows how to force it to headset?
it used to work such that when I open the boom on an incoming call, the call will automatically be answered.
now it doesnt work that way..
it just waits for either the bluetooth action button or the green answer button on xda iis to be pressed..

i have downgraded by BT [ recently upgraded to 3900 ] back to 3500 and the Motorola HS850 can auto answer whenever the boom is opened..
Guess 3900 is not perfect anymore

My HS850 works fine with BT 3900
Perfectly clear. Not tried switching handsfree to headset tho.

jabra bt 250
i m using a JAbra bt 250 and a qtek 9090..i tried the setting...but dont kno if it worked...in my shortcuts..it says hands-free connction to jabra..but i want it to be headset...coz thers too much of crackling right now..?

exec doesnt work with motorola bluetooth handsfree

hi.
i just bought a motorola bluetooth handsfree for my car HB830. i paired it to my exec and it started working. now the problem is that sometimes the pairing fails and the phone doesnt transfer the call to the handsfree i.e the call remains in the phone. when this happens the exec shows that bluetooth is turned off which i switch back on but the problem comes back after the next call. i.e the phone doesnt seem to be able to transfer the call to the handsfree.i have upgrade my ROM to Rom:1.30.107 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00
Ext ROM: 1.30.162 WWE
is this a problem with the new radio ? should i downgrade to the older radio? if yes then which one and how do i? please help me guys.. thanx

My Uni does the same with my parrot CK3100 car kit...
Its a major pain in the ass....
Seems to work fine with my Jabra JX10 tho..
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Same problem here with a medion bluetooth car radio.
Most of the times my universal thinks it's paired (icon in the calling screen), but when making or receiving a call it disappears.
After a succesfull bluetooth call, it isn't posible anymore to call handsfree.
Bluetooth also regulary turns itself off. Tricks found in another topic are not the solution for me

if you enable the device lock start\settings\personal\lock
Prompt if device is unused for 16.7 hours
set simple pin
the phone and the parrot device keep there pairing with no problem at all i have been testing it for the last 48 hours
if you disable the above it loses the paring straght the way.
strange is they anyone else who can try this
Thanks
Paul

bluetooth headest problem
hi.
1st thing how do u set it for 16.7 hrs.... it just gives me options of rounded off hours.
i tried setting it for 12 hrs.. it works better but still a problem

Maybe this is a clue:
I use the newest Qtek German Rom, which is from April or May. This should be same version like WWE version.
Since I upgraded to this Rom, all my problems with Bluetooth disappeared. It works fine with my Logitech mobile pro 2 headset. I assume, the problems are only because of the rom.
try upgrading and see, how it works.

JABRA BT320s

Anyone had any success pairing the JABRA BT320s with MDA 2 and if so, do all the functions of the bluetooth stereo headset work?
Thanks.

Upgrade
Purchased Jabra BT320s and paired with Vario 2 after upgrading ROM. Everything working fine with excellent sound quality. I did not try to pair with Vario 2 on old WM 5.0 ROM so I cannot say if the BT320 would work on this OS.

I DID try to pair a BT320s with my TyTN a while ago, no luck......im going to try again now, as i was quite annoyed it didnt work. Will report back soon.
EDIT:: Gonna need to get a plug adapter as i forgot the dumbasses i bought it from sent an EU power supply and not a UK one...LOL!
from what i remember it was around JUNE time when i tried it, sounds like the bluetooth drivers may have changed since i tried it but it did seem as if the headset was the problem and not the drivers as i have had other A2DP headsets working fine.

Jabra BT320's
Bluetooth can be a real pain at times - with unpredictable results. I cannot begin to tell you how much wasted time I have spent trying to pair gadgets together - so it was a pleasent surprise to find the Jabra's paired first time and functioned as described.
Wishing you LOL.
tange.

well i tried it again and even on my pretty up to date ROM it only pairs as a headset and not wireless stereo urgh!

may be worth a rom upgrade?

i have a 320s (uk version bought from a tmobile shop - their selling them for 25quid) and it works fine on my wm5 spv m700 and is detected as wireless stereo and headset

mrvanx said:
well i tried it again and even on my pretty up to date ROM it only pairs as a headset and not wireless stereo urgh!
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i had the same issue with this thing ... i did a hardreset and it showed up as stereo headset again. i had to do one anyway...
@all how do you like the jabra? mine is quite noisy ... i use my ugly samsung speakers instead and thinking about buying a 3.5mm adapter for the car.

I have been playing with the bt320s for a few days on different roms for my wizzard. I have been tring some WM5 and WM6 roms for features and bluetooth options. What i found was that I could pair with WM5 but even if it gave me the stereo option it was only in mono. After a google search i found someone mentioing that WM5 only supports Mono.
I then tried a couple of WM6 roms and found that they all supported the stereo correctly.
I then hit a problem as I decided that a ROM i tried earlier had everything i wanted (Diamond). So, decision made, I flashed the rom and tried to pair and it would only pair on headset and not offer the stereo. Very wierd as it worked before????.
I then found a post on another site which mentioned the following with the Bt320s headset.
1) delete any pairings on the phone.
2) switch of headset
3) plug the charge into the mains
4) put the charge into the headset 3 times for 5 seconds each.
5) Recreate the pairing with the phone.
Sounds wierd but it worked??????
I now have a wm6 rom with stereo bluetooth.
the only problem now is that WM6 closes all my apps when i switch it off and on using the power button.
This seems to be a bug when you enable a security pin in WM6 which i am forced to do via a directpush policy from work. Does anyone know a workaround for this as it is anoying to have your cub/pointui/media player etc close on you and go back to the home screen whenever I use the power button.
*****Orange are selling the Jabra BT320s online for £9.50 at the moment. Well worth the money*********

Quick update, on the latest pandora ROM (Tytn) ..... Its working great.

OhtwoXDA2 said:
1) delete any pairings on the phone.
2) switch of headset
3) plug the charge into the mains
4) put the charge into the headset 3 times for 5 seconds each.
5) Recreate the pairing with the phone.
Sounds wierd but it worked??????
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Just tried this trick and it work! I have a Jabra BT620.