VoiceCommand 1.6 and Ford integrated BT System - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I think I read all of the VoiceCommand 1.6 & Bluetooth threads and tried any of the solutions (0.9f , manual regedit, BTVoiceCommand.exe ... )
But probably I missed something.
First question I could not find an answer for:
How is VoiceCommand supposed to be started after the fix:
a) Does it only work starting VoiceCommand with a Button on the Bluetooth device
b) Should it also work using a Button on the Hermes ?
If the answer is a): My Cars Device has a Button to start calls. If you do not dial a number, then this button redials the last called Number. Is this the right "command" that VoiceCommand listenes for to start ?
If not: Is there a possibility to change VoiceCommand to react to this "command" ?
Is there kind of a Bluetooth- Sniffer to find out, which commands are exchanged between the car and the phone to probably fix this ?
Am I totally wrong and all I need is another Version of WM6 ?
Can anyone help me ?
Thanx
Tode
P.S.: It did not work using the original WM5- OS from T-Mobile Germany, and (Radio 1.1x ) and it still does not work with Schaps WM6 3.30a in german, that I actually use (Radio 1.41.00.10)

Voice command can be activated from your hermes and indeed needs to be mapped to button five on the hermes which is the button on the left hand side below the ok button.
In all my many installations on the hermes it seems to map to button 1 (internet explorer) by default and needs to be changed in start>settings>personal>buttons.
My understanding - and I'm no expert - is that the button push on your bluetooth headset merely activates voice command. in order to do a 'redial' you need to activate VC and say 'redial'.
I would say VC overides the usual behaviour of headset and phone functions.
The 'button' you push on your car stereo would need to activate VC.
Never heard of such a sniffer but I assume that if it is set up correctly then the activation from the car stereo should replicate the button push from a headset and fire up VC.
Have you tried pairing a bluetooth headset first just to make sure VC and the fix has installed properly? It's very temperamental and I generally have to install it quite a few times before the combination of reg edits and power off/resets get it stable.
Oh and I forgot to say that if you have any evidence of Cyberon Voice Commander on the device it almost certainly wont work - seems to be a clash. I chose the cleanest rom I could find (LSVW) and had to remove all the voice commander cabs and fixes from the ext rom the hard reset. This seemed to work once I had added the reg edit to make sure the button was firing up BTVoiceCommand and not BTVCBasic.

found an old B-Speech Headset...
at the moment I am trying a Hard reset and Remove of all Cyberon- Registry Entries etc. Probably it will work with a "clean" new Install.
Thanx for your Tipps, I will tell if it worked.
Tode

ok... With my Bluetooth Headset I finally got it to work: I press the Button on the headset, and VoiceCommand starts correctly over the Headset.
BUT: The Button 5 still uses the Hermes' speaker / microphone.
AND: The button in my Car does NOT work the same: It does NOT start VoiceCommand but still recalls the last dialled Number.
So there are two possibilities for me to solve the Problem:
if I could make the Button 5 start Voicecommand over the Headset and NOT over the Handset, then my Problem would be solved. Does this work somehow ?
if I could make VoiceCommand react on the command comming from my Car, instead of redialling the last Number, then it would be ok as well.
Any suggestions ?
Thanx
Tode

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BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve quality

Hi all,
I swapped my old O2 G2 BT headset for the new O2 one and have to say I noticed little improvement. I even upgraded to the 3900 build of the stack but no difference. However I then gotta thinking....
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
Well, the audio quality is improved and the range appears to be better. It is still not perfect (or as good as it was on the XDA2) but it is now useable.
I am going to test for the week before I decide if I shall get a refund or not.
Cheers - Rich
Hi Rakh!
Where can I get the BT3900?
Thanks!
ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
Re: BT headset/handsfree profile - this might improve qualit
rakh1 said:
By default the profile being used was hands-free, but I seemed to remember the XDA2 using only headset. So - I found that by holding the -vol button for 15 secs I could register it as a headset profile (the XDA2s cannot use any of the hands-free bits anyway - voicedial etc etc).
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the -vol button on the side?
When did you do that? - it doesn't seem to do anything on mine??
Thanks
--ian
Hi, yes the -vol button on the side. Switch it off (red light) wait 5 secs and then hold the -vol button for 15 (yes fifteen) seconds!
R
Hi,
Nope - still doesn't seem to do anything on mine. Either i'm doing something wrong or it only works on the xdaIIs and not the M2000 (they are suposed to be the same hardware but it might be a software thing).
Thanks anyway,
--ian
-vol button on the side of the O2 BT headset - not the XDA2s
Sorry for the confusion but I didn;t figure out what you were doing unitl now
Rich
Ahhhhh - doh!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I have a Jabra BT250 - and yes I was using the vol- on the phone
--ian
Jabra phones default to the headset program. Holding in the +Volume button on the headset while setting up for pairing turns on the optional Hands-free profile. This is just hte opposite of what the original post was about. The original poster had a G2 headset which defaults to Hands-free, but can be forced to Headset Profile.
Hi,
So what's the difference between headset and hands free?
--ian
Hands-free enables support for voice dialling etc etc etc. Headset simply allows you to use the mic and earpiece of the headset. I presume that the added functionality of the hands-free protocols take some of the 'bandwidth' from the voice part of the protocol and as a result exagerate the bad sound quality...???
R
Jabra headset
Hi to everyone!
I'm a Jabra user myself but I can't seem to enjoy the last number called redial feature with my XDA2 device (with ROM by Dr. Stein).
Any suggestions on how I can use this feature?
Thank you very much!
i have a motorola HS850.
it defaults to handsfree
anyone knows how to force it to headset?
it used to work such that when I open the boom on an incoming call, the call will automatically be answered.
now it doesnt work that way..
it just waits for either the bluetooth action button or the green answer button on xda iis to be pressed..
i have downgraded by BT [ recently upgraded to 3900 ] back to 3500 and the Motorola HS850 can auto answer whenever the boom is opened..
Guess 3900 is not perfect anymore
My HS850 works fine with BT 3900
Perfectly clear. Not tried switching handsfree to headset tho.
jabra bt 250
i m using a JAbra bt 250 and a qtek 9090..i tried the setting...but dont kno if it worked...in my shortcuts..it says hands-free connction to jabra..but i want it to be headset...coz thers too much of crackling right now..?

XDA2s and MS Voice Command 1.5

Hi all,
Does the XDA2s and Microsofts Voice Command work on a XDA2s?
I'm not English, but I'm sure my English is good enought!
Whenever I give a voice command I get a "please repeate" error..
I think it's something with the mic gain, but where and how do I set it lower? Enabling/Disabling the Microphone AGC settings did not really help!
Any suggestions?
You should rather forget about this application. I tried to use it but with no success, exactly like you. Then I tried other applications (with the same result) and finally I followed suggestions from this forum: Neuvoice - it works and it's cheap.
Rgds
Maciej L
Maciej L said:
You should rather forget about this application. I tried to use it but with no success, exactly like you. Then I tried other applications (with the same result) and finally I followed suggestions from this forum: Neuvoice - it works and it's cheap.
Rgds
Maciej L
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Thanks Maciej L,
Yes I think I will dump it.. It really sucks...
Looks nice the Neuvoice. To bad there is no demo to test it 1st
Yes there is a demo version, just download the full version from somewhere and it works as demo until you purchase the unlock code (as far as I can remember - but I'm not 100% sure - so you should by yourself)
Rgds
Maciej L
XDA IIs Fonix Application
I have just received my XDAIIs upgrade from an XDA II and it comes complete with Fonix Voice Dial. It automatically records test voices against your contacts (name number) and then you can call it up any time. You can also record your own voice which makes it more efficient. It also works with bluetooth. It seems an OK applicaiton to me.
Is this what you have been talking about? :lol:
In a quiet environment, it really doesn't have any problems with recognizing my commands. As long as you don't have a terrible English accent. However, you can forget about if you are in a loud environment though.
of where you have downloaded it to you.
I don't find any demo in any place
greetings and thank you
XDA IIs Voice Software
I got mine with the XDA IIs cd but try Handango.com who have a good range of voice software including Vito Voice....
you have registered in your cd ?¿?
regards
Voice Command 1.5
well, I have to say MS Voice Command works great for me. 95% hit rate on about 1000 contacts in my xdaIIs. Even in the car. Far better that V1.01. A couple of tips from my experienece with it.
1. Make sure the microphone auto gain is "disabled"
2. If it initially has problems and hit rate is very low, a soft reset usually sorts it out
3. Map the "record" button to Voice Command for easier access.
4. If your car is noisy, use a wired head set while driving. (I have not been able to get the bluetooth voice dialing to work at this point)
Re: Voice Command 1.5
cbrow51 said:
well, I have to say MS Voice Command works great for me. 95% hit rate on about 1000 contacts in my xdaIIs. Even in the car. Far better that V1.01. A couple of tips from my experienece with it.
1. Make sure the microphone auto gain is "disabled"
2. If it initially has problems and hit rate is very low, a soft reset usually sorts it out
3. Map the "record" button to Voice Command for easier access.
4. If your car is noisy, use a wired head set while driving. (I have not been able to get the bluetooth voice dialing to work at this point)
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Hmmm... With none of the Voice dial programs I've been able to get the bluetooth to work.. Not sure if it's the bluetooth unit itself, or if it's some ROM version thingy...
The BT headset is a SE HBH-600. The XDA2s is with ROM version 1.12.62 WWE and radio version 1.02.00.
Can/will this work with bluetooth voice dialing??
MS Voice Command & BT Voice Dialing
No, sorry, I have not been able to make it work. I think its still an issue with the implementation of the BT stack (in this case the Widcomm stack) on the HTC devices. I can establish a connect from my headset to the device, but does not "link up" with voice dialing.
I now use a regular noise cancelling wired headset in the car, via an adapter plug sold by PockPCTechs (www.pocketpctechs.com) Other wise just use the phone mic to initiate a voice command dialed call
Regards
Chris
Re: MS Voice Command & BT Voice Dialing
cbrow51 said:
Other wise just use the phone mic to initiate a voice command dialed call
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I was going to ask how well this works?
I'm getting a BT car kit fitted literally in the next hour and was hoping I'd be able to voice dial like I could my old Nokia, while driving.
I am using
O2 xda2s with microsoft voice software
I have a fairly noisy sports car but it works well..
I have the voice mapped to contacts button so one press and direct voice towards pda and no botha.... about 95% hit rate on 200 contacts..
I must add it has only been that good since buying a brodgit car cradle so it positioned well.. obviously you have to turn stereo off
the only complaint i have with it is that when the voice speaks back to you to confirm what you have said I cant hear it very well..
does anyone know of any settings to improve audio levels..
cheers
stay happy
Hi Guys
I have upgraded my 'Voice Command' handsfree solution as follows.
1. Added an FM 'Sound Feeder' from Pocketpctechs, that connects to the xda via one of 2 different pocketpctechs audio adaptors.
2. Tune the radio to one of the 8 frequencies supported by the Sound Feeder and the xda then plays all audio output through the car stereo system. This works for all apps, including my Navman GPS and Media Player!. I also mapped a button (I used the record button) to Voice Command, so one press activates VC and I can initiate a call by voice from there.
The really nice thing about this arrangement is that if i have media player running through the system, and a call comes in, the music mutes automatically, the phone rings, and i can take the call. When you end the call, media player picks right up again!
3. For the microphone part, there are 2 options:
a. The one I am using right now, is to use the pocketpctech 'single' adaptor, that allows sound to play through the stereo, while keeping the mic of the xda active. This means the xda picks up your voice directly for voice command and telecons, while at the same time playing the sound you normally hear via headphones, through the stereo. This works great for the incoming voice, although you need to talk fairly loudly for the party calling to hear you well. Decent enough though...
b. The upgrade I will make this weekend is to use the 'dual' pocketpctechs adaptor. This one accepts the soundfeeder on one side, plus a regular 2.5mm heasdset on the other. This one disables the internal xda mic, and allows you to use the mic from the headset. So I plan to permantly position this mic (after cutting off the ear bud!) on the door pillar as in normal car hands free installs. This should improve the outbound sound a good bit....
Will let you know how I get on
Regards
Chris
In the end, the Parrot CK3100 car kit has its own built in voice recognition, so I have no worries
Great! I looked at the Parrot a while back. How much was it? Work ok?
Regards
Chris
Well, I've not really had chance to test it properly yet, seems to be good. Cost me £180 to have it fitted, the old one removed and a bit of extra power wired in for my GPS & PDA.
Hi Andy
Sounds good. Let us know how it works out for you. I am interested in how the bluetooth connection holds up. I am still having problems with my xda maintaining a connection with my bluetooth headset.
Regards
chris

voice command over bluetooth headset on xdaIIs

I have a O2 XDAIIs been tring to find what exactly I need to do to ativate voice command with my bluetooth headset I have being looking
through the forums but am unable to find the sollution if there is one can someone point me in the right dirrection PLEASE GOING NUTS
I don't think it is possible. Problems with the integratino of Windows Mobile and the Bluetooth Static/Profiles.
So, is this a Blue Angel Issue, a Windows Moblie SE isuse, or both?
If just a Windows Moblie SE Issue does anyone know if WM2005 corrects this?
Thanks!
Its a windows issue rather than a BA issue I think, however there is a partial solution.
Press the connect button on your BT headset as if you were answering a call; then press the "contacts" button on your BA. You should then be able to speak into your BT headset. Once finished, disconnect the BT headset as normal
Not perfect, but a reasonable workaround. I have my BA in a cradle in my car & hardly need to glance at it in order to find the contacts button & get nearly-handsfree operation
Its a windows issue rather than a BA issue I think, however there is a partial solution.
Press the connect button on your BT headset as if you were answering a call; then press the "contacts" button on your BA. You should then be able to speak into your BT headset. Once finished, disconnect the BT headset as normal
Not perfect, but a reasonable workaround. I have my BA in a cradle in my car & hardly need to glance at it in order to find the contacts button & get nearly-handsfree operation
Dear weasel,
I have tried what you have advised to get BT head set to activate voice command. However, it don't work. Is there any thing else that I can do? I really hope I can dial a call via BT haed set.
Thank you.

Need bluetooth help badly!~

Please help me out I'm incredibly frustrated with this thing. I recently got the PDA2k and installed WM05 on it. It looks very nice and it runs speedy with no problems. My problem is the bluetooth which is huge thing to me. Either my headset (Tekkeon Eztalker Mini) is not compatible which I doubt or I'm making a stupid mistake.
This is what I did step by step: I click on the bluetooth icon and turn on the bluetooth, I then put my headset in pairing mode and the imate is able to recognize it and I enter the Pw and I put Set as handsfree. That's it, I would think I would be done at this point yet nothing happens, the headset doesn't do anything and I know its not Tekkeons fault because I was able to hook it up easily with my HP 6315.
So what's going what am I missing?
Also theres a tab at the bottom called "Com Ports" but I only see under this option "Incoming Port", and the description at the top says there should be another option called "New outgoing port". Does this have anything to do with it?
What Am i doing wrong? It's driving me crazy I can't really use the phone without the headset.
help me out pls
Bluetooth
I know the feeling, i have gone back to 2003 cause of that but now i am back on wm5. The bluetooth issue is not fixed yet, it is not stable, it keeps going off. There is a suspend cab file, but it does not work for me yet, also try pokect zen beta. You might get a longer period of bluetooth
thanks for responding, but the problem is not that it suspends or stops working. It doesn't start working at all even though the imate detects it. It's like it's not connected at all, not that it disconnects. I'm doing something wrong I just don't know what.
The bluetooth piece is not faulty and the unit is practically brand new. whats going on?
I used "Display Switch" binded button (From Wisbar Advance 2) or "Toggle Screen" (From SPB Pocket Plus) to turn off the backlight instead of using power button .
This work around will keep bt connection alive.
Note:
1. If you suspend your BA using psShutXP your bt connection .
2. You have to disable auto turn off device under Start -> Setting -> Power
Note:
1. If you suspend your BA using psShutXP your bt connection will be disconnected.
I'm sorry I'm not sure I'm explaining myself correctly. I understand that if the power goes off I will lose the BT connection but the problem is not KEEPING the connection alive, the problem is MAKING the connection. I follow all the steps , the imate recognized the headset but I'm not able to use it..also shouldn't a headset picture show up at the top of the screen when the bt headset is connected (cuz mine doesnt). what am i doing wrong?
thanks.
still need help please.. if someone can walk me through how to setup a bluetooth connection that would be great cuz I apparently haven't done it right.
The headset icon only shows in Phone app
The headset icon only shows up in the Phone application. It no longer is displayed in the notification area (top row).
If your device is paired up, when you make a call, you will see the headset icon in the top right corner.
You may also need to clear any old pairings that you headset has. I have a Jabra 250 and it happens all the time.
there we go you have solved my problem!. I didnt' have to open up the phone application on my hp 6315 to use the bt. So wait can I listen to music with windows media player through the bt headset or does it only work when making phone calls? I was able to listen to music on the HP 6315, is it different with the Imate or is it the NEW 05 os? Please enlighten me
thank you thank you
also one other thing does this mean that if i want to use the headset with the phone that I have to press the answer button on the imate rather than the headset..cuz that would suck big time.
what about when people call me can i answer with the answer button of the bt headset or no?
It works fine with the headset button for answering or hanging up.
Later.......... 8)
droy001 said:
what about when people call me can i answer with the answer button of the bt headset or no?
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Voice Dial with Scala Rider

hi all
i just got myself a scala rider (bluetooth headset for motorbike helmets). one of its features should be voice dialing.
after successfully pairing it with my artemis, the only profile i could choose was "hands-free" (which is ok).
everything works fine, but i can not get voice dial to work: when i press the (correct!) button on the headset, it opens the phone application (number dialing screen) on my phone, but it wont let me use voice dial.
this is not really cool, because "hands-free" should actually be exactly that
anyone here knows a solution for this or a reason why it might not work?
[Edit:]
ok, i should have had more patience with the search function (maybe).
i found this thread over at the wizard boards. post #2 mentions something about changing a registry key:
Here you go:
First:
goto "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\Path ". Change the default value from "\Windows\SDDialer.exe" to "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe".
Now you should be able to activate Micrsoft Voice Command by pressing the connect button on your bluetooth headset. My Scala headset beeps twice when it's ready for the Voice Command. My husbands Motorola headset beeps once when it's ready for the Voice Command.
Then you can also enable your bluetooth headset to receive music and other sound from your MDA by running the tweak "Enable Bluetooth Receive" using the Registry Wizard Program.
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will that help with my problem? (i can not test it before tomorrow)

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