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ok, i am going to get a pda phone for cingular wireless, but of course, they only have 1 PDA phone. i'm guessing i will get the XDA phone from somewhere?
i just need to know exactly what i need to do, i have looked on the forums and don't really understand any of the things your talking about, so please help.... thakyou alot!

travman said:
ok, i am going to get a pda phone for cingular wireless, but of course, they only have 1 PDA phone. i'm guessing i will get the XDA phone from somewhere?
i just need to know exactly what i need to do, i have looked on the forums and don't really understand any of the things your talking about, so please help.... thakyou alot!
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Sjeesh man, life is too short to be vague. :| What is it you wish to accomplish?
(Since you posted in 'Unlocking it', it may well be that you wish to use this phone on some other provider than the one that is providing you with the phone, and that you suspect that the phone has a SIMlock set....)

XDA-Developers
i've got an MDA Vario II and just updated it to the original WM6 ROM which was available from T-Mobile, but I am very disappointed - in some things:
- The Power Consumption has increased
- Some Programs are even not in this ROM like the "Notes" Application and the Calculator
- The Performance is not as good as under WM5
- The WMP cannot play MP4 Files
...There are some more issues but I don't want to list them all, because this is not my core question
What I want to know is if it is possible to install the O2 Rom or if you can recommend me another ROM, it is no problem if it is in english, it just should be having all the WM Standard Programs and it should have more performance.
Can I get the original HTC ROM somewhere ?

Ok confused now

If i install onto my exec Helmi WM6 v.1.1
will i still HAVE all of o2s random tripe like the tinterweb settings and such like... im just a lil worried that it wont work and ill have a nice expensive brick and i really dont like the thought of that
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can i install WM6 then just update with the damn O2 rom from their site??? or is it not compatable???
-DTM

There's nothing stopping you from flashing any ROM you like onto your device, and putting the O2 GPRS/MMS settings onto it.
There are enough links on the site with the O2 settings cab file if you search.
You will not be getting the O2 Active either, but again, this is something you can search for yourself and add to it.
I suggest you read the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269118 (which really should be a sticky hint hint mods) before you do anything, as it sounds like you need to understand the difference between a ROM, and an Extended ROM.

I cannot beleive it was that easy,, i just needed to extract 2 files.... stoopid me lol.. TY Very much Alan
-DTM

Whoops spoke too soon...... the dreaded thing has happened
not really its working so crisp and clean upgraged and totally workin in 30 mins,, not bad
one little ammendmant tho the phone keypad is well not there,, the buttons all work and it makes calls but i would like to be able to see things on the screen,, no biggie tho but if anyone can help let me kno
-DTM

Never mind,, had a quick rummage around and fixed t with trusty Resco RegEdit,, muhahaha,, WM6 is the best
-DTM

WM6 Installation Success poll

Hello all,
I recently purchased a Cingular 8525 and I'm really considering upgrading the phone's OS to WM6. I've successfully used the unlocker to unlock the SIM and made it SuperCID.
I did a search on this topic but really couldn't find anything that was in one spot....
I'm creating this poll for all those newbies (like myself who want to upgrade).
This poll is for any flavor of WM6....
Cheers to all...

Wow!!!!
It's pretty amazing that no one has bricked their phone while upgrading to WM6. As a newbie, I feel pretty confident upgrading this weekend...
I've printed up the guides and downloaded all the software...
I've decided to use the LVSW version.
Thank you to all for all your input and advice.

There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll

mfabre said:
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
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That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim

I brick and can unbrick my tytn
Yes i try to upgrade my softbank with a dopod rom, for winmobil6 LVSW, and my phone brick after a 17% but reading all wiki, i can recover so is beautiful mobile 6, i'm happy with black edition 1.1 cyu

I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
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I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...

Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...

Hi truffle1234,
You may want to create a new thread asking your question. The intent of this thread is to find out the installation success rate for people who have already tried to upgrade to WM6.
truffle1234 said:
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
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joel32137 said:
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
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Well...I guess after I successfully flashed LVSW without bricking my (almost) new 8525 I thought what the hell and flashed Black v1.2 on the spur of the moment...my wife says I have impulse control issues. But I'm glad I did. It seems to run smoother, quicker response and better handling of some of my 3rd part apps.
I've done ALOT of trial and error. I have hard reset my phone (of my own volition) 5 times over the past week. I'm a bit OCD and after trying out programs to see how I run it seemed like the memory went back up all the way. So I hard reset to start over again.
I finally have it working the way I like and the Black, from my low-level of experience, seems stable and more functional than the Palm I used t carry.
I have the following installed:
Weather to Go (working construction/realty I need accurate Wx)
BattMemory (I'm anal about checking program memory and its a small plug in)
O2Plus (great for hitting a button and seeing what apps are open)
Palm threated SMS (I hate the native SMS program on the 8525)
MORTGAGECalc (REALTOR, nuff said)
GoogleMaps (REALTOR, nuff said)
Batti (I like the top bar that shows charging status and level no matter what app I'm in
ClearTemp (cleans out settings and temp filed quickly)
VibraSwitch (allows me to switch between vib and sound a la Treo 650)
PTTFix (allows me to remap the PTT button)
I've tried some other apps that did not go so well...SPB, Mobile Shell worked well a few days then slowed everything down...I liked the tabs and the plug in but it kept slowing the system down...and a bunch of others.
I'm not a big media user so I don't need TCMP or any other cool multimedia gadgets so I kept it to what I need. I keep my laptop with me normally so I don't need to watch movies or do any of that stuff. Most of my business work is done on the laptop. I have avvenu (www.avvenu.com) on my desktop so I can pull any file from my desktop from my phone via IE, which is a nice feature.
I soft reset every morning when waking the system up and it runs alot smoother than my T650 did.
I've not missed a single call since getting the 8525, the Push email is alot better than 3rd party apps for Palm, the 3G rocks where I am, and I get better reception. On my T650 I would get 1-2 bars or no service sitting in my house but with the 8525 I get 2-3 3G bars as a rule.
JIm
Impatiently waiting for Black v2.0 to be released!

aatjitra said:
I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
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Check out the Hermes Section and look for "Palm SMS" thread or something like that. It goes over the MMS settings quite in depth.

just follow the guide and it should be fine. I am a beginner to this too but do some research and reading and follow the GUIDE! the guide is excellent!

Well everybody, just wanted to give a brief update that I was able to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to WM6 No problems on this end. Would definitely recommend the update to all.

Which flavour did you upgrade to??

Black is back in
I had no problems with either Black 1.1 or 1.2. Upgrades went like a charm. Not waiting for Black 2.0

Used Mr Vanx's guide to upgrade my HERM200 to the LVSW edition (25/3 version). I encountered no problems at all.
Device seems to work fine, though in Surinam we don't have all the advanced mobile phone features as in europe (like gprs etc).
First time upgrade

Do not understand this WM6 and hermes issue

hey Guys,
I'm pretty new to this kinda stuff and i just got a Dopod 838 Pro, im guessing this is the Australian version of the Hermes, its manufactured by HTC. here in Australia for some reason we have like 3 different brand names for them but their all the same!.... anyways to the point, i read all these different threads with all these different WM6 versions on it and i have no idea anymore which is the right one?!?!?!
i want to upgrade my dopod to the WM6 but i don't no which OS to choose? which is the best atm and why is it so hard to get them working? its not like just a copy of windows xp and you install it?
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
Latest Version Software? haha
So yea which copy do i use?

Hi,
I'm using Dopod 838Pro too.
There are pros and cons for all the WM6, it all depends on what you want (more embedded software? more memory?)
As for myself, I've been using XDA Live v0.1 then v0.2. I'm still waiting for v0.3 I have not tried the rest, because I think I prefer XDA Live and I'll wait for kyphur
Thanks!

remigi said:
hey Guys,
I'm pretty new to this kinda stuff and i just got a Dopod 838 Pro, im guessing this is the Australian version of the Hermes, its manufactured by HTC. here in Australia for some reason we have like 3 different brand names for them but their all the same!.... anyways to the point, i read all these different threads with all these different WM6 versions on it and i have no idea anymore which is the right one?!?!?!
i want to upgrade my dopod to the WM6 but i don't no which OS to choose? which is the best atm and why is it so hard to get them working? its not like just a copy of windows xp and you install it?
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
Latest Version Software? haha
So yea which copy do i use?
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best thing to do is get onto Hard-SPL then start trying them all out before finally settling on one and lobbing all your crap into it.

I would even go one step further (which I have) and purchase Sprite Back and perform an Update Restore .. this will allow you to flash new ROMS and in one restore you have all your apps back...
The Update Restore function allows you to change OS's or devices and restore all of your applications. (Just be sure to follow the steps every time)

remigi said:
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
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LVSW is a user that cooked one of the WM6 versions.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299564

Remigi,
There is some good advise in all of the above. The only thing you can really do to be honest is read all of the forums relating to the upgrade process, especially the wiki!!!! Then once you feel you are adequately ready take the plunge. An extra piece of advise that I will dispense if you don't mind as I am struggling with it at the moment is;
Copy down all of your data settings and connection details - or confirm (via the forums) that the settings that are out here all work and will get you back sending mms / gprs / wap(?) etc etc. I flashed my 2 day old Orange M3100 (same thing as you just branded for UK) and I am still trying to get all of this functionality back properly.
As for which ROM to use..... I am using the one mentioned in my sig block (the second one) the black v1.2. It absolutely dumps all over the bog standard carrier rom!!!
Hope this helps
WBeresford

wberesford said:
Copy down all of your data settings and connection details - or confirm (via the forums) that the settings that are out here all work and will get you back sending mms / gprs / wap(?) etc etc. I flashed my 2 day old Orange M3100 (same thing as you just branded for UK) and I am still trying to get all of this functionality back properly.
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This is good advice...but what are you missing? I am on Orange UK and it takes less than five minutes to re-enter GPRS/WAP/MMS settings and load the sdk certs and the smsproviders.dll (to get the voicemail notifications) following a rom update.

so whats the difference between them all? like atm i have the standard WM5 Hutchinson's three software on there which has nothing special apart from every time u put a simcard in it downloads the settings automatically.... called network setup or something... but yea.. what the diff between like vanilla and xda and black and all those... isnt it all just WM6?

upgrade to WM6.1&touchflo, how???

Dear xda-developers forum,
I just bought an HTC artemis, very nice phone, and was searching for apps for it, most of links in the search engines returned to here ( xda-developers ), so I thought..this must be the best website on the net specialized in PPC, so I registered..and this is my first post
To be honest i always were a symbian fan, but i wanted to break the rule this time, I'm new in windows mobile world..please help me!
I just have one question: Can anyone tell me how to install the latest version of WM6 (I currently have some WM5 version), and then show me how to turn it into a nice touchflo device (what's this cooking all about)???
Thank youuuuuuu!

Have a bit more of a read round the forums and then carefully follow the instructions for installing a new ROM.
I've got 6.1 with touch working though I have to say that the touch stuff is very limited.
Once you've worked through it, it is easy enough as long as you follow each step carefully.

knightnet said:
Have a bit more of a read round the forums and then carefully follow the instructions for installing a new ROM.
I've got 6.1 with touch working though I have to say that the touch stuff is very limited.
Once you've worked through it, it is easy enough as long as you follow each step carefully.
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thank for your response, knightnet, I am delighted to know that there still are few helpful people around here ... why are you saying that touchflo is limited?? I watched some youtube clips that showed really fast responding touchflo Artemis...
can someone please give me a link to a guide for begginers in PPCs, I read some guides in the wiki section, but there are alot of weird terms that i just couldn't get into my head ... pleaseeeeeee hellpppppppppp

belal_se said:
I just bought an HTC artemis, very nice phone,
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Did you buy a new phone or a used one? Just wondering since new phones come with WM6 & not WM5, I got a new one 4 months back.
And like knightnet said, have a look around thr forums, check out the wiki & you will see guides on installing a custom ROM. You can try it out but personally I'm not a fan of TouchFlo on the Artemis - it ain't got the processor or memory for that, TouchFlo is heavy. You can also find the new TouchFlo versions around in the forum, the kinds which come with Diamond & later phones with those smooth sliding. That TouchFlo is pretty slick & I like it a lot & had it on my Artemis for a week but then removed it as the phone has become too slow to bear it.

kautilya said:
Did you buy a new phone or a used one? Just wondering since new phones come with WM6 & not WM5, I got a new one 4 months back.
And like knightnet said, have a look around thr forums, check out the wiki & you will see guides on installing a custom ROM. You can try it out but personally I'm not a fan of TouchFlo on the Artemis - it ain't got the processor or memory for that, TouchFlo is heavy. You can also find the new TouchFlo versions around in the forum, the kinds which come with Diamond & later phones with those smooth sliding. That TouchFlo is pretty slick & I like it a lot & had it on my Artemis for a week but then removed it as the phone has become too slow to bear it.
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yes, my artemis is brand new, didn't really need it but it was on sale
it has OS 5.1.342, build 15096.3.0.0 (whatever that means!!)
im on this forum for the last 6 hours learning how to upgrade the phone, thinks a little clearer now, but i have new questions (that makes me a noob, saw this term used here when a pro wants to pick on a beginner, i really dont know what that exactly means )...
so i want to know if i can backup the original rom before doing an upgrade, or is there a place to download them??
I have :
ROM version 1.12.415.1 WWE
Radio version 2.67.90 (which is old compared to the ones available here)
thaaaaaaaaaaanks!

Have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

belal_se said:
yes, my artemis is brand new, didn't really need it but it was on sale
it has OS 5.1.342, build 15096.3.0.0 (whatever that means!!)
im on this forum for the last 6 hours learning how to upgrade the phone, thinks a little clearer now, but i have new questions (that makes me a noob, saw this term used here when a pro wants to pick on a beginner, i really dont know what that exactly means )...
so i want to know if i can backup the original rom before doing an upgrade, or is there a place to download them??
I have :
ROM version 1.12.415.1 WWE
Radio version 2.67.90 (which is old compared to the ones available here)
thaaaaaaaaaaanks!
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There are some standard ROMs available I think, I remember seeing some when I was looking to change mine (it's been a while I'm afraid so I'm a bit hazy). But you can and should back-up your own.
It isn't easy being a "noob" in phone upgrading - I remember what it was like & I wasn't being nasty to you (honest!) but the instructions on the wiki are clear after you have followed them carefully. If you've backed up your existing ROM and taken out any additional memory cards (oh, and charged up the phone before starting - just in case), there is really no danger of "bricking" your phone.
Don't forget to back up any information on the phone as well. I use the excellent PIM Backup for that as I can shedule it to do a daily backup of all of the PIM (Calendar, contacts, tasks, notes) data and any other data I want (I back up the internal memory "My Documents" folder) to the memory card in the phone and then regularly copy that to my PC (and from their back up to a server on a different continent - though I am a bit paranoid about my data!).
So go for it

guys am i am trying to put a new ROM in my artemis....!!!
what about that rom? " ROM : Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE | RADIO : 03.34.90 "
or have u any other to suggest me for better... ty

knightnet said:
There are some standard ROMs available I think, I remember seeing some when I was looking to change mine (it's been a while I'm afraid so I'm a bit hazy). But you can and should back-up your own.
It isn't easy being a "noob" in phone upgrading - I remember what it was like & I wasn't being nasty to you (honest!) but the instructions on the wiki are clear after you have followed them carefully. If you've backed up your existing ROM and taken out any additional memory cards (oh, and charged up the phone before starting - just in case), there is really no danger of "bricking" your phone.
Don't forget to back up any information on the phone as well. I use the excellent PIM Backup for that as I can shedule it to do a daily backup of all of the PIM (Calendar, contacts, tasks, notes) data and any other data I want (I back up the internal memory "My Documents" folder) to the memory card in the phone and then regularly copy that to my PC (and from their back up to a server on a different continent - though I am a bit paranoid about my data!).
So go for it
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i have my artemis for 10 days now, experimenting all kinds of stuff, i dont have any important data on it so no spooks their, haha, i even never made a call with it!

Blexakos said:
guys am i am trying to put a new ROM in my artemis....!!!
what about that rom? " ROM : Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE | RADIO : 03.34.90 "
or have u any other to suggest me for better... ty
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ok if you want a manila rom, this is the best ever in my opinion :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440478
now, what i did not try until now is using spb shell, i saw this on youtube and i want it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vW92WEUeg&watch_response
it has the Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE rom with a diomond theme, looks nice cant wait for flashing to end!!

now i have an important question:
is there a maximum number of times for flashing my artemis, coz im afraid that i might fry the rom from to much flashing?

belal_se said:
now i have an important question:
is there a maximum number of times for flashing my artemis, coz im afraid that i might fry the rom from to much flashing?
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I expect that there is since all FLASH memory has a limit.
However, you won't be hitting it any time soon even if you were to FLASH a couple of times a day!