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Hi all,
Noob user here
I've a problem with my XDA IIs that I thought I'd get some advice on rather than dispensing of it. Basically...it won't switch on. When plugged into mains the red light comes on for a bit then goes off.
Phone was working perfectly, put it in my pocket got home and nothing, assumed it crashed but doesn't respond to anything. Has been sat on my wardrobe for over a year but could do with using it for sat nav.
Any advice on what to try? Could be the battrey but don't wanna fork out extra cash for a new one as it's even more money lost
If I wasn't to fix it, any idea on what it's worth? Screen is unmarked and it has all standard accessories with it.
Ta
Save you BA man! More or less it's the battery (I think). Or the internal battery is drained to 0%. Have you tried charging it first for a couple of minutes?
Yeah tried charging overnight. Charge light comes on for a bit then goes out. Does the same thing when connected via usb, red light comes on but it doesn't register on the pc.
Was working fine but then one day it just woudn't come on. Would like to keep it if I can, got a touch diamond too now, but this is actually a better phone to use!
try to use a different battery first. And let's see what happens next.
Yeah, I may have to but want to avoid as much extra cost as I can
Bit more info, using the docking station plugged into the mains:
Batt alone - Charge light on dock comes on.
BA alone - Red light on BA comes on.
BA with batt attached - no lights on.
Any ideas??
can you try to put it in bootloader mode?
red_hanks said:
can you try to put it in bootloader mode?
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Don't know how to
Plus it doesn't actualls switch on or register on the PC, so can I do much to it?
It's just like what I did with my BA a few days ago, I am flashing it with a new ROM and while in the process I intentionally unplugged the cable during the process and I got an error on my PC and my BA does not turn on anymore. I tried to put it in bootloader mode a couple of times and it did and I re-flashed it again. And it works. Check the wiki...
red_hanks said:
try to use a different battery first. And let's see what happens next.
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yeah, the best thing to do to isolate the problem..
Astecas said:
Yeah, I may have to but want to avoid as much extra cost as I can
Any ideas??
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no need to buy at once, borrow first, then if your BA works using another's batt, thats the time you need to decide spending... cheers
The same problem I had!!!!!!!!!!
I had this trouble... and... YUP!!!!! is the backup battery.
So you cant charge your BA via USB if the main batt reaches less than 35% so keep it safely above 35% men...
BTW... if you have your batt less than 35% the OS can be runing just a little seconds so your batt is dying is not truth that it have 35% it has almost 5% trust me...
Yes!!!! the red led Turns On a little then Goes off... so sad isnt it?... now your backup batt is almost 0% thats why your red led appears... so...
Get a craddle USB-AC_Charging base it has a backtrace to charge apart the batt charge it individual. Once you get a full charged main batt, let your BA rest a little on the freezer to obtain a little power of the Backup batt... (YES ON THE FREEZER!!! ) at least 3 minutes before you plug the main batt.
It wakes up the device... maybe it becomes a few seconds on but... is enough.... if it starts... cradle your entire device on the craddle and wait till its full charged... again the green led appears cause the main is full but let it charge more and more... caus there is no led indicator for backup batt.
NOP!!!!!!! I dont do the freezer trick when i had this problem... cause i get it works faster than you...
Hope this works... post your adventure men....
Red Hanks/Que - Tried both those (ok, maybe not the freezer bit!), and stil no joy. Gonna go out over the weekend and see if a repair shop can try another battrey. Otherwise I may be saying goodbye :-(
Phezthie - The BA was rare when new, now they are non-existent. No chance of borrowing a friends.
Cheers for the help guys.
Well it is a nice idea!
you can make a modded battery for BA with two nokia bl 5c taiwan batts... check the post on winmo 6 subforum.
In my opinion. it's the internal battery since you didn't use the phone for over a year. Hope you can make your BA alive again because there's so much nice apps waiting out there...
I was using it daily before this though, it suddenly stopped working one day. It did however crash a few times before it finally went. I'll have a read up on changing internal batt. Red...I'm gonna try and save it!
Ok...keep us posted and good luck mate!
Astecas said:
Red Hanks/Que - Tried both those (ok, maybe not the freezer bit!), and stil no joy. Gonna go out over the weekend and see if a repair shop can try another battrey. Otherwise I may be saying goodbye :-(
Phezthie - The BA was rare when new, now they are non-existent. No chance of borrowing a friends.
Cheers for the help guys.
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both batteries, main and backup, could be the reason thats why you need to determine which one of it by isolating the cause of the problem. to know if its the main battery, you can improvise by using different battery with same voltage rating (3.7volts, no need to worry as to the Ah rating), but be sure to connect the proper polarity to the BA's correct pin terminals, otherwise, power circuit of your BA will be compromised.
As to the backup battery, you can do nothing it but to replace if defective. the "freezer trick" is actually one of the shattering myths of electronics and cannot be relied upon to have an optimal performance, as it neither charge nor extend the life of the battery. it simply reduces the the power dissipation (power loss due to heat and resistance) during the initial boot so that it can draw enough power to run unit in its chargeable condition.
but since it is not prossible to borrow or no available battery can be used as a test unit, I suggest that you try the first procedure aforementioned, this of course, if you are familiar with battery polarities and know the corresponding terminals of the unit. regards
Hmmmm, my diamond has a 3.7v batt...never thought of that!
I'm near preston, with the origional battery . .
I'm near preston, with the origional battery . . fully charged, will last 6/12Hrs=using it, P.M. me ur postcode + House #, I will send it to you to try
(stick with the BA, new HTC Elf is half the PPC, that the BA is!!!!)
FleaBay'd a 2400mAh (incl shipping)=under £10GBP !!! (late last year)
#===#===# Currently Being Pimped (1st go!) #===#===#
Cheers mate, but I've just paid for one off ebay so I'll just wait for that to come now. If it doesn't do it I may be selling up...
Fingers crossed
Ok, new battrey arrived this morning. Gave it a charge and just tried it...
....no change
Screen, green and blue top corner and red end call lights momentarily flash when I press the power button. Then nothing.
Both batteries seem to charge in the cradle but not in the phone.
So, any other suggestions oh technically superior ones??
Btw, I received 2 batteries this morning, so I've listed the new one to get some cash back here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3519343#post3519343
I just bought a GSM Galaxy Nexus from the Google Play store for $350, and it won't turn on out of the box. I tried turning it on with the battery in, plugged in with battery, plugged in without battery, etc. and nothing is working. The power button refuses to do anything and holding the volume buttons doesn't do anything either.
What should I do?
return it....
I'm asking if this is a common issue or if there's any way to fix it. Is there supposed to be a light on the device when it's charging? Because even with the battery inserted, the phone doesn't light up or anything with the power cable plugged in.
This is going to be so stupid if I have to return it on day 1. I understand some products come in DOA but seriously, don't they at least make sure this stuff works before they send it out?
FIXED: Nevermind..apparently the cleaning solution they use on the gold contacts for the battery causes it to not connect sometimes, and rubbing it with my finger made the phone turn on. WOW!
Source - http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-galaxy-nexus/193412-info-if-your-gms-nexus-google-doa.html
You asked what you should do. Without further testing it is hard find the cause of the problem. Could be the vcc regulator, battery charger,battery connector,usb connector, usb cable, power adapter.
Try a different cable and supply. If still no response from the unit, hold both volume buttons and power, it should do a quick vibrate and turn on. if still no response, its DOA and should get it rma'd back soon so you can get your replacement quick because i know how much it sucks when you are excited for a new toy and it comes in broke >.<
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I'm asking if this is a common issue or if there's any way to fix it. Is there supposed to be a light on the device when it's charging? Because even with the battery inserted, the phone doesn't light up or anything with the power cable plugged in.
This is going to be so stupid if I have to return it on day 1. I understand some products come in DOA but seriously, don't they at least make sure this stuff works before they send it out?
FIXED: Nevermind..apparently the cleaning solution they use on the gold contacts for the battery causes it to not connect sometimes, and rubbing it with my finger made the phone turn on. WOW!
Source - http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-galaxy-nexus/193412-info-if-your-gms-nexus-google-doa.html
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Lol that's the weirdest issue I've ever heard of
dude.... no ****, i just had the same problem and rubbing the contacts fixed it :highfive:
I searched as best I could so please bare with me..
Brand new e971, less than a week old and I managed to drop it in the toilet bending over to tuck in a shoelace after I took a leak. Fell out of my sweater pocket, and right in the bowl.. that'll teach me to put the seat down.
Anyway, I was out somewhere and obviously didnt have the sim key or any tools to crack the back and pop the battery..I 'windmilled' to get what I could out.. but that was the best I could do. I held the power button down hoping itd shut off and it eventually did, flashed something on the screen and that was it.
When I was able to I opened it up and popped the battery and dried whatever water was inside, whcih there was some.. took the mainboard out, blew it off with compressed air (it was actually dry, all the covers worked well). Put it back together sans battery and put it in rice for 36~ hours or so (would have waited longer, but I was confident I got the majority of the water out in the first place).
Phone won't power on though. The best I can do is get it to start download mode by pressed vol up+down and inserting the USB. Plugging in the USB on its own sees the charge indicator flash red intermittently, in a very long slow frequency - im thinking the battery is fried, maybe the power button too. The LG logo comes on the screen for a second and disapears for about 5, and repeats this cycle.
I've never rooted or messed with anything like this before but someone said I may be able to reflash the phone and have it work.. but I really have no clue. Any advice would be appreciated.. like I said this is brand new :/
How to "Unbrick": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010624
That reflashes new stuff.
If you hold down Volume Down + Power Key you should get into factory reset, can you see if that works or you might have fried the storage or something.
If you somehow get it to work but need battery you have here:
http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/optimus/lg-optimus-g-e975.html
Which ships World wide I think and pretty decent price.
Hope it works and please come back and tell us how it went.
wargreymon89 said:
How to "Unbrick": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010624
That reflashes new stuff.
If you hold down Volume Down + Power Key you should get into factory reset, can you see if that works or you might have fried the storage or something.
If you somehow get it to work but need battery you have here:
http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/optimus/lg-optimus-g-e975.html
Which ships World wide I think and pretty decent price.
Hope it works and please come back and tell us how it went.
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Thanks for the response
vol down + power key has no response
Im tempted to think the power switch is broken and the battery shorted and is dead, but I am no expert
If I plug it into USB all it does is flash the LG logo, no lights nothing.
if I hold the vol down button down, when the LG logo flashes the back/home/search buttons illuminate for a second, and occasionally the red light will come on for a second, but thats it, other than being able to get into download mode the phone is a total brick. I'll check out your link when I get home. I have insurance but there is still a replacement fee and I can't afford it right now.. and the fact that I opened the phone I think they may try to **** me over with that even though its clearly water damage (indicators are all purple/pink)
thanks again
Dudley Do-Right said:
Thanks for the response
vol down + power key has no response
Im tempted to think the power switch is broken and the battery shorted and is dead, but I am no expert
If I plug it into USB all it does is flash the LG logo, no lights nothing.
if I hold the vol down button down, when the LG logo flashes the back/home/search buttons illuminate for a second, and occasionally the red light will come on for a second, but thats it, other than being able to get into download mode the phone is a total brick. I'll check out your link when I get home. I have insurance but there is still a replacement fee and I can't afford it right now.. and the fact that I opened the phone I think they may try to **** me over with that even though its clearly water damage (indicators are all purple/pink)
thanks again
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If the red light flash, it's usually because the power button is hold down. I think your power button might be stuck. Also try to plug it in wall and no on computer USB.
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If the red light flash, it's usually because the power button is hold down. I think your power button might be stuck. Also try to plug it in wall and no on computer USB.
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I was at work with the phone (dropped it out somewhere and took it apart and left there) so I had not tried plugging into a regular wall charger
Plugged it into a charger, backlight came on and the LG logo flashed, went away and flashed again, but a lot faster this time, and then I got a message "battery too low to power on!! I assume its charging, or trying to?!?! The red light goes bright, and then dims to nothing, and then goes bright again. Pressing the power button turns the screen on to the "too low to power on" screen again, and pressing again turns it off as per normal!
I'm kind of excited now, it may just be the battery after all.
Now, either the water shorted it and ruined it (and ill be checking the phone closely to see the lipo doesnt blow up on me..), or somehow the battery fully discharged? The battery was pretty full around the time of the toilet incident, but stranger things have happened right?
Dudley Do-Right said:
I was at work with the phone (dropped it out somewhere and took it apart and left there) so I had not tried plugging into a regular wall charger
Plugged it into a charger, backlight came on and the LG logo flashed, went away and flashed again, but a lot faster this time, and then I got a message "battery too low to power on!! I assume its charging, or trying to?!?! The red light goes bright, and then dims to nothing, and then goes bright again. Pressing the power button turns the screen on to the "too low to power on" screen again, and pressing again turns it off as per normal!
I'm kind of excited now, it may just be the battery after all.
Now, either the water shorted it and ruined it (and ill be checking the phone closely to see the lipo doesnt blow up on me..), or somehow the battery fully discharged? The battery was pretty full around the time of the toilet incident, but stranger things have happened right?
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The indicator going from dim to bright during charging is pretty normal. It also means your battery is charging. Give it a full charge and see how it goes. And do try keeping your phone in your trouser pockets. It's safer that way.
MarcSinger said:
The indicator going from dim to bright during charging is pretty normal. It also means your battery is charging. Give it a full charge and see how it goes. And do try keeping your phone in your trouser pockets. It's safer that way.
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I left it on the wall charger for a little over an hour but the phone appeared to make no progress so I unplugged it deeming the battery dead, that and I didnt want to run the risk of anything bad happening charging a dead battery (im a little leery with these lipo's due to my RC experience with them..). Maybe I'll try again for a while this evening.. but since the battery had a full charge prior to toileting, I can't imagine it totally discharging; is this possible? The other not so nice reality is that maybe the power circuit on the mainboard fried and its not reading the battery properly?
Yes.. will definitely have to keep phones in my trousers and put all seats down from now on..
So I'll try charging again for a longer time period to see what happens, otherwise I'll be ordering a battery on Monday and waiting about a week to two weeks for it
I'll keep the thread updated as much as I can without double posting
Thanks for the response
Well.. you'll never believe this but.. it works. Flawlessly as if the toilet never happened..
I tried the insurance route being that a battery shipped to me would cost half the price of a claimed replacement and it would have been a gamble.. so I went that route. Was told they denied my claim because my insurance was not activated because I need to make an outgoing phone call.. I only ever text and had not made one..
So down in the dumps and considering spending $25 shipping on a $30 battery, I went home and decided to try the phone one more time by reseating the battery..
I plugged it into the charger and got a blue battery charging.. I pressed the power on button and the phone came to life..
Not sure what the hell happened, maybe the battery needed to dry out inside or it wasnt seated just right the last time I tried but everything is working flawlessly.. wow. I am in shock.
Now I guess its time to root it
Thanks everyone for the advice and tips, but it seems all I needed was some time and luck!
Somehow my HTC One X (tegra 3) phone must have bricked itself overnight. It will not turn on and when I connect the charger lead the light does not come on.
Since the phone is still under warranty I take it to Phones 4u, the guy there reckons that it is a battery fault (which makes sense to me, given the circumstances). Anyway that was all last week, today I get a phone call from P4U saying that it's going to cost me £125 to repair it because it is not under warranty. They are claiming that the phone has been opened before and the VOID sticker is damaged as is a load of the shielding tape inside the phone. This came as quite a shock to me since I bought the phone "new" from them last year and it has never been opened in the time that I have had it.
My theory is that the phone has a fault that is going to cost a lot to repair so Phones4U (Would it have been sent to HTC?) have either claimed that the phone has been damaged or they have damaged it so they can thieve some money from me.
Anyway, back to the point, has anyone else had this issue if so does anyone know how to resolve it (or if that's feasible)?
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Somehow my HTC One X (tegra 3) phone must have bricked itself overnight. It will not turn on and when I connect the charger lead the light does not come on.
Since the phone is still under warranty I take it to Phones 4u, the guy there reckons that it is a battery fault (which makes sense to me, given the circumstances). Anyway that was all last week, today I get a phone call from P4U saying that it's going to cost me £125 to repair it because it is not under warranty. They are claiming that the phone has been opened before and the VOID sticker is damaged as is a load of the shielding tape inside the phone. This came as quite a shock to me since I bought the phone "new" from them last year and it has never been opened in the time that I have had it.
My theory is that the phone has a fault that is going to cost a lot to repair so Phones4U (Would it have been sent to HTC?) have either claimed that the phone has been damaged or they have damaged it so they can thieve some money from me.
Anyway, back to the point, has anyone else had this issue if so does anyone know how to resolve it (or if that's feasible)?
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I'm on the same boat
Mine was off and i put it to charge and noticed that it wasnt charging. no light! it reboots. I'm on 5% charge
nothing on ADB/fastboot.
solution!
ATTENTION! HERE IS SOLUTION! MIGHT WORK FOR! IT WORKS FOR ME!
hi there! first of all i want to apologize as my english is not perfect.
now the story, i have this problem for 3 months now. nothing helps to permanently fix this. it started one day, my battery runned out while i was surfing internet, phone switched off as it does normally. i did put in on charger (original) but no charging light came on, i checked it after few hours but no light where there, phone was dead! i didnt worry to much and just left it there over night to charge, but in the morning i found that red light is still not on, not charged and completely dead. i did every method metioned on any forum- holding buttons, pulling sim out combination nothing helped!!!! my HOX is rooted with custom rom and latest HBOOT version. i were so dissapointed that my warranty is void. then i decided to take phone apart, take battery out and measure its voltage with multimeter, so i did that and battery was 3.18v. so i cut USB lead and charged battery up to around 3.8v that was wery tricky to do as HOX's battery have odd connector, after that i did put every thing together and phone turned ON, i did charge it normally to 100% which measures 4.2v in APP. calibrated battery by deleting batterystats.bin file. next day battery went flat, and exactly same thing happened again. it must be something wrong happening when phone swithing off by it self, it does not switching off completely that causing it not reacting to butttons. SO i think if i put in freezer for 10-15min it will kill the battery and cut power to phones PCB (eq = battery pull) because any button combo is not = battery pool. so i wrapped it in cling film to prevent condinsation and kept phone in freezer for 15min. do not attack me with commets like "cold temp killing LI-ion battery for ever" i dont care i dont want to hear any of these stuff i did what knowing that, cuz there is no real solution to this problem! it is sounds like crazy! i know! im am russian so im used to do crazy stuff ) after i took it from freezer my HOX felt like ice.. hooked up charger and WOALIA!!! red light started to blink = battery to low to swith on. after half an hour red light came on persistant and my phone swithed ON without problems. after few weeks i replaced battery with other one but no joy! still same thing, i used to do this for months because sometimes i wasnt able monitor battery and turn phone off manually before it reaches 1% charge. I did not experienced any battery life shortening (at least i didnt spot any serious life drops) I SUSPECT THIS IS SOFTWARE RELATED PROBLEM, SO PLEASE IF ANY DEVELOPER OR ANY ONE WHO IS KNOWS WHAT EXACTLY CAN CAUSE THIS, PLEASE LOOK AT THIS CASE. IT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION OTHER THAN MINE!! cuz in the end it sux putting ur phone to freezer
NOW - solution! kind off..
when u did my methot if it worked for you of coure.. you need APP from Playstore - LLAMA location profiles. in LLAMA app you can create action based on event. se lets make event BATTERY under x% and create action for that - POWER OFF PHONE! set delay for 2min so u can stop ongoing event once u on charger and ur battery is less set %. I did set it for 5% and 2 min delay just to be on safe side. once battery reaches 5% charge action is created after 2 min, and phone turns off. dont try to power it ON!!! if u did by accident, just turn it off once it booted! dont ask me for help using LLAMA it is not complicated as it looks, play aroud with charged battery, experiment. u can add additional actions like play sound + screen on+ vibrate+ power off. if that helped u press thanks button as this text took me whole hour to type
AND PLEASE SOMEONE SORT THIS! AS HTC ONE X' PCB NEED TO BE CUT FROM POWER TO RESET AND START CHARGING. I DO THAT BY DEPLEATING BATTERY CHARGE WHRE PCB CUTS OFF POWER. SUB-ZERO TEMP DOES THAT TO BATTERY, BUT WE NEED REAL SOLUTION!!
thank you if read this til end
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ATTENTION! HERE IS SOLUTION! MIGHT WORK FOR! IT WORKS FOR ME!
hi there! first of all i want to apologize as my english is not perfect.
now the story, i have this problem for 3 months now. nothing helps to permanently fix this. it started one day, my battery runned out while i was surfing internet, phone switched off as it does normally. i did put in on charger (original) but no charging light came on, i checked it after few hours but no light where there, phone was dead! i didnt worry to much and just left it there over night to charge, but in the morning i found that ...........
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I am pleased that I haven't had to do this! I argued with Phones4U a little more and they have agreed to replace the device, I think that the repair job was far too expensive for them to justify doing it. Hopefully will have a shiny new One X (or One X+ if they have no stock) by the end of today!
hydo1 said:
I am pleased that I haven't had to do this! I argued with Phones4U a little more and they have agreed to replace the device, I think that the repair job was far too expensive for them to justify doing it. Hopefully will have a shiny new One X (or One X+ if they have no stock) by the end of today!
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Haha ended up with a Galaxy Note 2
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Hello everyone,
I've been trying to pin down a problem with my AT&T GS3 for the last few days and I can't really find anyone describing quite the same symptoms (or maybe I'm slow and missed something somewhere). The problem seems to be that my phone isn't recognizing the battery has a full charge more often than not. It started a few days ago and seems to have gotten worse, as in when I first noticed the problem my phone would still turn on for brief periods of time before failing to 'see' a charge > 0% and then dying. Right now, it just powers up ever so briefly- sometimes it'll just die after it says Samsung or briefly into the boot screen.
Today, I took it apart to inspect the motherboard and connections but I didn't see anything obvious like broken connections or burny, burny components, but idk, everything is small and I didn't have a microscope. I wish I had looked closer at the power IC chip and stuff like that but I'm blind and probably wouldn't have seen anything anyway unless it was super obvious.
Occasionally, instead of showing a sad empty battery when I power it on (plugged in), it'll show 100% like I would expect and it would get slightly further into the boot sequence before dying again and go back to showing empty and making me very sad and confused. I can almost swear this happens more often when I'm holding it a certain way or whatnot. One other thing I noticed is that when this first happened, my battery was about 32% and after a while of 'charging' it would show 86% when I got the 'correct' battery charge to display... next instance was 94%, then 99% and finally 100%... so I can only assume the battery is somehow charging but the phone just hasn't gotten the memo. I bought another battery (OEM) and tried to no avail, so I assume it's not the battery. I've tried multiple chargers and no luck there either.
So, has anyone ever seen anything like this? And if so, do you think it's the power IC, the capacitor in that circuit, or something else that I'm not thinking of entirely? I see that there's 4 battery pins/terminals/whatever and after internet'ing around a bit about phone batteries, it seems that 2 are the normal pos/neg (obvs), one is a thermistor for temperature, and one 'talks' to the phone to tell it all about the battery's voltage, charge, etc because the old way of indicating charge was kinda shoddy apparently. I'm definitely suspecting something to do with that last thing too, but I have no idea what part of the circuit that is.
Any sage wisdom here would be very, very appreciated and thank you in advance.
P.S.
I have some background working with electronics, but not electronics for ants, if that helps at all.
Done / Fixed
Never found out what was wrong with the motherboard but I did buy a GS3 w/ a broken screen off eBay to do the fix for cheap.
$100 (broken phone) - $65 (resale of parts) + unscrewing/rescrewing 10 tiny screws + detaching/reattaching some cute ribbon cables = phone worky worky
If you have an S3 or similarly easy to disassemble phone, I'd highly recommend doing some research and ebay scrounging before dropping a metric crapload of cash on a expensive repair or replacement.