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toilet bricked..

I searched as best I could so please bare with me..
Brand new e971, less than a week old and I managed to drop it in the toilet bending over to tuck in a shoelace after I took a leak. Fell out of my sweater pocket, and right in the bowl.. that'll teach me to put the seat down.
Anyway, I was out somewhere and obviously didnt have the sim key or any tools to crack the back and pop the battery..I 'windmilled' to get what I could out.. but that was the best I could do. I held the power button down hoping itd shut off and it eventually did, flashed something on the screen and that was it.
When I was able to I opened it up and popped the battery and dried whatever water was inside, whcih there was some.. took the mainboard out, blew it off with compressed air (it was actually dry, all the covers worked well). Put it back together sans battery and put it in rice for 36~ hours or so (would have waited longer, but I was confident I got the majority of the water out in the first place).
Phone won't power on though. The best I can do is get it to start download mode by pressed vol up+down and inserting the USB. Plugging in the USB on its own sees the charge indicator flash red intermittently, in a very long slow frequency - im thinking the battery is fried, maybe the power button too. The LG logo comes on the screen for a second and disapears for about 5, and repeats this cycle.
I've never rooted or messed with anything like this before but someone said I may be able to reflash the phone and have it work.. but I really have no clue. Any advice would be appreciated.. like I said this is brand new :/

How to "Unbrick": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010624
That reflashes new stuff.
If you hold down Volume Down + Power Key you should get into factory reset, can you see if that works or you might have fried the storage or something.
If you somehow get it to work but need battery you have here:
http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/optimus/lg-optimus-g-e975.html
Which ships World wide I think and pretty decent price.
Hope it works and please come back and tell us how it went.

wargreymon89 said:
How to "Unbrick": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010624
That reflashes new stuff.
If you hold down Volume Down + Power Key you should get into factory reset, can you see if that works or you might have fried the storage or something.
If you somehow get it to work but need battery you have here:
http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/optimus/lg-optimus-g-e975.html
Which ships World wide I think and pretty decent price.
Hope it works and please come back and tell us how it went.
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Thanks for the response
vol down + power key has no response
Im tempted to think the power switch is broken and the battery shorted and is dead, but I am no expert
If I plug it into USB all it does is flash the LG logo, no lights nothing.
if I hold the vol down button down, when the LG logo flashes the back/home/search buttons illuminate for a second, and occasionally the red light will come on for a second, but thats it, other than being able to get into download mode the phone is a total brick. I'll check out your link when I get home. I have insurance but there is still a replacement fee and I can't afford it right now.. and the fact that I opened the phone I think they may try to **** me over with that even though its clearly water damage (indicators are all purple/pink)
thanks again

Dudley Do-Right said:
Thanks for the response
vol down + power key has no response
Im tempted to think the power switch is broken and the battery shorted and is dead, but I am no expert
If I plug it into USB all it does is flash the LG logo, no lights nothing.
if I hold the vol down button down, when the LG logo flashes the back/home/search buttons illuminate for a second, and occasionally the red light will come on for a second, but thats it, other than being able to get into download mode the phone is a total brick. I'll check out your link when I get home. I have insurance but there is still a replacement fee and I can't afford it right now.. and the fact that I opened the phone I think they may try to **** me over with that even though its clearly water damage (indicators are all purple/pink)
thanks again
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If the red light flash, it's usually because the power button is hold down. I think your power button might be stuck. Also try to plug it in wall and no on computer USB.

chadouming said:
If the red light flash, it's usually because the power button is hold down. I think your power button might be stuck. Also try to plug it in wall and no on computer USB.
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I was at work with the phone (dropped it out somewhere and took it apart and left there) so I had not tried plugging into a regular wall charger
Plugged it into a charger, backlight came on and the LG logo flashed, went away and flashed again, but a lot faster this time, and then I got a message "battery too low to power on!! I assume its charging, or trying to?!?! The red light goes bright, and then dims to nothing, and then goes bright again. Pressing the power button turns the screen on to the "too low to power on" screen again, and pressing again turns it off as per normal!
I'm kind of excited now, it may just be the battery after all.
Now, either the water shorted it and ruined it (and ill be checking the phone closely to see the lipo doesnt blow up on me..), or somehow the battery fully discharged? The battery was pretty full around the time of the toilet incident, but stranger things have happened right?

Dudley Do-Right said:
I was at work with the phone (dropped it out somewhere and took it apart and left there) so I had not tried plugging into a regular wall charger
Plugged it into a charger, backlight came on and the LG logo flashed, went away and flashed again, but a lot faster this time, and then I got a message "battery too low to power on!! I assume its charging, or trying to?!?! The red light goes bright, and then dims to nothing, and then goes bright again. Pressing the power button turns the screen on to the "too low to power on" screen again, and pressing again turns it off as per normal!
I'm kind of excited now, it may just be the battery after all.
Now, either the water shorted it and ruined it (and ill be checking the phone closely to see the lipo doesnt blow up on me..), or somehow the battery fully discharged? The battery was pretty full around the time of the toilet incident, but stranger things have happened right?
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The indicator going from dim to bright during charging is pretty normal. It also means your battery is charging. Give it a full charge and see how it goes. And do try keeping your phone in your trouser pockets. It's safer that way.

MarcSinger said:
The indicator going from dim to bright during charging is pretty normal. It also means your battery is charging. Give it a full charge and see how it goes. And do try keeping your phone in your trouser pockets. It's safer that way.
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I left it on the wall charger for a little over an hour but the phone appeared to make no progress so I unplugged it deeming the battery dead, that and I didnt want to run the risk of anything bad happening charging a dead battery (im a little leery with these lipo's due to my RC experience with them..). Maybe I'll try again for a while this evening.. but since the battery had a full charge prior to toileting, I can't imagine it totally discharging; is this possible? The other not so nice reality is that maybe the power circuit on the mainboard fried and its not reading the battery properly?
Yes.. will definitely have to keep phones in my trousers and put all seats down from now on..
So I'll try charging again for a longer time period to see what happens, otherwise I'll be ordering a battery on Monday and waiting about a week to two weeks for it
I'll keep the thread updated as much as I can without double posting
Thanks for the response

Well.. you'll never believe this but.. it works. Flawlessly as if the toilet never happened..
I tried the insurance route being that a battery shipped to me would cost half the price of a claimed replacement and it would have been a gamble.. so I went that route. Was told they denied my claim because my insurance was not activated because I need to make an outgoing phone call.. I only ever text and had not made one..
So down in the dumps and considering spending $25 shipping on a $30 battery, I went home and decided to try the phone one more time by reseating the battery..
I plugged it into the charger and got a blue battery charging.. I pressed the power on button and the phone came to life..
Not sure what the hell happened, maybe the battery needed to dry out inside or it wasnt seated just right the last time I tried but everything is working flawlessly.. wow. I am in shock.
Now I guess its time to root it
Thanks everyone for the advice and tips, but it seems all I needed was some time and luck!

Is my phone gone? Doesn't turn on, but vibrates

Hello all,
I have an S3, T-Mobile (T999). Yesterday while I was using it, it turned off by itself and now refuses to turn on. I have tried two different batteries and all it does is vibrates when I take the battery out and put it back in. I cannot get into recovery.
It was rooted and I had the PacMan ROM on it. To make things worse, the mcro-USB port is not functioning so plugging in into the computer doesn't do anything (I was using Anker wall-charging batteries to charge the phone).
Is my phone bricked somehow? Any troubleshooting tips?

Does it do anything other than vibrate? Does it sound like it comes on but the screen is just dead? Do you see anything happen on the screen? Unfortunately, without a functioning usb jack, theres not a lot you can do. Cant even flash the stock firmware....Only other thing you can try that I can think of is to find another S3 and swap the motherboards to test on a known good device.

DocHoliday77 said:
Does it do anything other than vibrate? Does it sound like it comes on but the screen is just dead? Do you see anything happen on the screen? Unfortunately, without a functioning usb jack, theres not a lot you can do. Cant even flash the stock firmware....Only other thing you can try that I can think of is to find another S3 and swap the motherboards to test on a known good device.
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Thanks for the reply DocHoliday. Today, after charging my Anker battery, it vibrated as usual but then I saw the Galaxy logo appear on the screen, but then it went away and the phone died again, so the screen is functioning.
I wonder if it is a battery problem; however, I have tried two different Anker batteries. I might try to find a stock S3 battery and try again. Will keep this thread updated.

M3GAPL3X said:
Thanks for the reply DocHoliday. Today, after charging my Anker battery, it vibrated as usual but then I saw the Galaxy logo appear on the screen, but then it went away and the phone died again, so the screen is functioning.
I wonder if it is a battery problem; however, I have tried two different Anker batteries. I might try to find a stock S3 battery and try again. Will keep this thread updated.
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Does it try to turn on on its own when you put the battery in? If so it may be a power button issue. Either way, you might want to take it apart and make sure the button appears ok, and also check/reseat all ribbon connectors. Kinda doubtful its a battery issue, but I guess it is possible.

Did you try to go download mode or to the recovery (What ever u have)????...Just to know the reaction of the phone.If u can then is not hardware related

DocHoliday77 said:
Does it try to turn on on its own when you put the battery in? If so it may be a power button issue. Either way, you might want to take it apart and make sure the button appears ok, and also check/reseat all ribbon connectors. Kinda doubtful its a battery issue, but I guess it is possible.
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DocHoliday77,
I opened up the phone yesterday. The power button has no ribbon on it. It's connected to a simple surface mount push button. I tried pushing the button with the screw driver to rule out the actual button not making the proper contact, but it still wouldn't turn on. It still vibrates when I put in the Anker battery though.I think what I'll do today is test the voltage on the battery before putting it into the phone to make sure its not dead. Unfortunately, I could not find the stock battery that came with the phone.

M3GAPL3X said:
DocHoliday77,
I opened up the phone yesterday. The power button has no ribbon on it. It's connected to a simple surface mount push button. I tried pushing the button with the screw driver to rule out the actual button not making the proper contact, but it still wouldn't turn on. It still vibrates when I put in the Anker battery though.I think what I'll do today is test the voltage on the battery before putting it into the phone to make sure its not dead. Unfortunately, I could not find the stock battery that came with the phone.
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I know the button has no cable attached, I meant for you to unplug and reseat all ribbon cables that are there. I think there are 3 or 4....maybe 5. There are disassembly vids you can reference though. As for the power button, it has been known to go bad. We've had it reported quite a few times around here in the past several months. Sometimes just jiggling it, or messing with it a little seems to help, otherwise itd have to be replaced. If you put the battery in, and the phone tries to power on without you pressing power, this is most likely the problem. From what you have said though, I doubt this is your issue. It could simply be memory going bad as well. I have seen a few reports of this. Unfortunately, short of replacing the motherboard, there is no fix for this.
Im, not saying that is the problem btw. Just a possibility.

DocHoliday77 said:
I know the button has no cable attached, I meant for you to unplug and reseat all ribbon cables that are there. I think there are 3 or 4....maybe 5. There are disassembly vids you can reference though. As for the power button, it has been known to go bad. We've had it reported quite a few times around here in the past several months. Sometimes just jiggling it, or messing with it a little seems to help, otherwise itd have to be replaced. If you put the battery in, and the phone tries to power on without you pressing power, this is most likely the problem. From what you have said though, I doubt this is your issue. It could simply be memory going bad as well. I have seen a few reports of this. Unfortunately, short of replacing the motherboard, there is no fix for this.
Im, not saying that is the problem btw. Just a possibility.
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I ordered a replacement button today. It would be another 'low-hanging fruit' possibility and it was only $3 for the button on eBay. I'll de-solder the old one off and solder the new one on. Will update this thread after doing so. It is a mechanical button, so I agree, it could have messed up some how.

hey even i have nokia x it doent on doesnt vibrate just like total dead what should i do batery is ok some problem while flashing it with me

Update Please
M3GAPL3X said:
I ordered a replacement button today. It would be another 'low-hanging fruit' possibility and it was only $3 for the button on eBay. I'll de-solder the old one off and solder the new one on. Will update this thread after doing so. It is a mechanical button, so I agree, it could have messed up some how.
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Hi. I have the exact same problem as you had, so I was wondering whether or not this worked?

[Q] DOA

Watch has set on the charger for about 4 hours now, and I haven't had a vibrate or screen turn on at all. The charger light on the charging unit turns on, but nothing from the watch at all. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm about to call moto and get it sorted through a probable replacement. Sort of annoyed that the QC is this bad.

Just a couple of quick questions:
(1) I know you said DOA, but I just wanted to clarify that is has never worked, or worked for a little while, then didn't work?
(2) When mine arrived, it had 37% charge and for some reason it didn't charge the first time I plugged the charger in. The light came on, but it wouldn't charge. Strangely enough, I unplugged it from the wall and plugged it back in and then it started charging. I'm not sure why, but just in case you haven't tried that yet, I would try that. I may even have used a different plug.

Make sure it is fully seated in the charger. Is there any warmth on the back of the watch when you remove it from the charger?

Steve-x said:
Make sure it is fully seated in the charger. Is there any warmth on the back of the watch when you remove it from the charger?
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There is. With the stock charger, it is warm to the touch and the feeling fades with time off the charger.
vansmack said:
Just a couple of quick questions:
(1) I know you said DOA, but I just wanted to clarify that is has never worked, or worked for a little while, then didn't work?
(2) When mine arrived, it had 37% charge and for some reason it didn't charge the first time I plugged the charger in. The light came on, but it wouldn't charge. Strangely enough, I unplugged it from the wall and plugged it back in and then it started charging. I'm not sure why, but just in case you haven't tried that yet, I would try that. I may even have used a different plug.
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As in DOA, meaning I took it out of the box and attempted to power it on with no vibration, screen lighting or any other form of feedback to indicate it was on. I have tried it with both the stock charger and a charger I use with my M8 that has a higher amp output.

Mine was the same way, totally dead out of the box. But after sitting in the charger for 20 minutes it finally turned itself on and so far seems fine. Maybe yours was just too dead to recover from.

I actually thought mine was DOA as well. Even left it charging overnight with no signs of life. It turns out that I was not pressing the power button hard enough. Once I REALLY pressed the button in for 3+ seconds, it powered right up! Haven't had that issue since then, and the power button now seems to register normal presses just fine.

giant420 said:
I actually thought mine was DOA as well. Even left it charging overnight with no signs of life. It turns out that I was not pressing the power button hard enough. Once I REALLY pressed the button in for 3+ seconds, it powered right up! Haven't had that issue since then, and the power button now seems to register normal presses just fine.
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I just tried this as well, and had no luck. I think I will call Moto tonight and get this resolved once and for all.

On the one I bought this morning I thought it was DOA until I peeled the plastic circle off the back and placed it on the charger. Did you take the plastic off?

aygriffith said:
On the one I bought this morning I thought it was DOA until I peeled the plastic circle off the back and placed it on the charger. Did you take the plastic off?
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That I did. Called Motorola support and they will be sending me a new one. Will see if the condition changes before the new one gets here though. It's still sitting on the charger and still getting warm to the touch.

CMNDR said:
That I did. Called Motorola support and they will be sending me a new one. Will see if the condition changes before the new one gets here though. It's still sitting on the charger and still getting warm to the touch.
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Just to give some final closure for anyone in the future, I recieved the replacement today, and it works just as intended. I think the issue with my other one was that the power switch itself was faulty, as this watch has a much more noticeable firm 'click' when I press it (The other one just sort of softly clicked.) Replacement was sent overnight, and arrived working out of the box. With that said, and after customer service messing up not just the email address, but also my name, I would say that Motorola's support is quite shoddy at best. I just hope they actually reverse the charge on my account for the replacement watch.

I just want to add to this thread, this is exactly the issue I'm seeing with my brand new Moto 360. Just purchased from Best Buy. Took it out of the box, held the power button (as the instructions say) and nothing. I plugged the charger in, unplugged, replugged, etc, no dice. The light on the charger lights up and the watch gets warm. I've let it charge for over an hour, and still have yet to see anything on the screen. The button "clicks" when I press it as opposed to the OP's issue. I guess I'll just take it back and exchange it, just hope this is not the norm with this device.

HTC M8 not turning on or charging

Today, when i was charging my phone when it was around 20%, it didnt charge well and gave a message that the phone was draining more than it was charging. I shut my phone at let it charge, but the orange light started to blink on and off so it wasnt charging right. I tried different plugs and chargers but same deal.
Now the light doesnt come on at all, so im assuming all the battery is dead. I checked online a bit for solutions like pressing the power button and up/down button for a while, doing so under a light, leaving it charging for a while, trying to charge with my laptop usb. But nothing seems to be working.
When I try the power and up/down combo and then charge it, the light comes back for a few seconds but then vanishes. I dont know if this means anything, but in any case, I cant get my phone on so i need help. Is there anything I havent tried?

Sounds like a hardware problem, but I'm no expert. I'd take it to a repair place.

Shiverfire said:
Today, when i was charging my phone when it was around 20%, it didnt charge well and gave a message that the phone was draining more than it was charging. I shut my phone at let it charge, but the orange light started to blink on and off so it wasnt charging right. I tried different plugs and chargers but same deal.
Now the light doesnt come on at all, so im assuming all the battery is dead. I checked online a bit for solutions like pressing the power button and up/down button for a while, doing so under a light, leaving it charging for a while, trying to charge with my laptop usb. But nothing seems to be working.
When I try the power and up/down combo and then charge it, the light comes back for a few seconds but then vanishes. I dont know if this means anything, but in any case, I cant get my phone on so i need help. Is there anything I havent tried?
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I had a similar issue months back with my m8. The micro usb port contacts had weakened and I had to put pressure on top of the area where the cable connects to the phone just to get it to charge. I was still under warranty, so I ended up taking mine back to ATT and getting it replaced for free, with them calling it a defect.
Try putting pressure on different parts of the cable when you charge it, and use a program like gsam battery monitor, to make sure it's drawing power. This will only be a temporary fix, though.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus charging issues...

A while back, after sweating profusely into my phone during a workout session, my gnex started behaving badly when I wanted to charge it. Needless to say I've got a battery app installed that is able to detect the plugin state (whether the phone is on battery, whether the charger is plugged in or whether it's just a usb connection such as a computer) and actual % voltage the thing has in the status bar. The app itself is: Battery by MacroPinch.
Well I figured the usb port was probably going so I got a new one of those (i.e. flex cable microusb etc.) for my sch-i515. I also decided to get a new battery just in case... so I replaced the battery (it's an oem samsung one) and fwiw, the thing stabilized its behavior! I've since swapped them back and forth with no apparent issues. However, I took my phone out with me on a run and it started acting flakey again. I've (in the past) had to clean out the port with a toothpick, I've had to on occasion bend the flap in there, do battery pulls (which believe it or not worked for a while), and so on. This time however was different. The phone wouldn't wake when I plugged in or unplugged the charger... and in no way shape or form would the charge indicator come on (you know, lightning bolt in the batter icon etc.) and to make matters even worse this time, my laptop simply didn't recognize the phone was plugged in. So I bit the bullet and and did the surgery and replaced the usb board and mic.
It could not have gone more smoothly, unfortunately (as might have guessed) all is not well... so now:
if the screen is dark -
the phone will wake when the charger is plugged in
the phone will wake when the charger gets unplugged
Using a moto droid cable (from my og droid)
the phone/computer realize they are plugged in together and Wug's NRT works and so on.
BUT the battery STILL won't charge.
I guess the phone is a couple of years old and it doesn't really owe me anything (I guess) but I'd really like this thing working better until I can get a new one. Does anybody out there have any ideas on what I might have missed? The phone works as before, exactly fine except it won't chare so I'm pretty sure I managed to get all the connectors back together properly... I suppose the usb port I replaced the original with might be defective but....
Any help is greatly appreciated...
Oh I'm rooted but stock, android 4.2.2

No advice at all??

I WOULD have said bad usb port, MAYBE try another? They are cheap enough, mine has been broken forever and I do not want to take device apart to change it because crack in my screen I'm worried will get worse if I take device apart.
so since its impossible for me to charge battery in device, I'm NOT worried about THAT tho, BECAUSE a LONG while back I had purchased 2 extra OEM batteries, PLUS a OEM samsung EXTERNAL CHARGER/stand which ALSO came with a battery. so I NOW have 4 total batteries, and I charge them up in the external charger, then just swap them out as needed.
which honestly is GREAT, cuz if I'm going out all day, I can just bring my extra fully charged batteries with me, and not have to worry about battery drain from heavy use cuz I have 3 other fully charged ones WITH me.
that's really all I can say, if you would like help finding the exact external charger that comes with a battery as well let me know, I had bought mine on amazon couple YEARS ago for only like 25-30$ BRAND NEW, I'm guessing TODAY that price would be like ten bucks

Thanks... that may be the way to go but I use this thing for my gps... but the thing doesnt get power when plugged in at all it seems (I plug it in, pull the battery and it does not stay on) so far I've been using my wife's gnex to charge my main and spare... but like I said the thing is, the phone doesn't even stay on when plugged in and I pull the battery (hers does so I'm thinking that there may be something deeper in that's failed here). I cracked the thing back open last weekend to make sure all the connectors were engaged, but I did not find any issues with them past that point.
Does anyone know if there is a hidden connecter somewhere in there that i could possibly have accidentally unhooked that prevents input power from reaching the guts of this thing?

OK it's getting crazier all the time...
Since my gnex was "working" except for charging (also, the phone would not stay powered on with the usb plugged in and the battery removed) I decided to go for a long run yesterday... I take the phone with me for music, tracking and general "safety". About half-way through my run, I look at the window in the neoprene armband I'm using and it looks like a sauna... the bluetooth cuts out on me... so I pull the phone out and with a minimum of fiddling I get the music back on... regarding the charging issue ... I was using my wife's gnex to charge my two oem batteries.
Well after this run, I try and use voice to text in a text message after I got home... well guess what... the phone records NOTHING. It's like I'm not talking. So I try a few phone calls... the display shows the call in progress, but I hear nothing! So I use my land-line to call the phone... NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.
I had previously replaced the usb port, so I took out the tools and disassembled the phone. there was some moisture in there... anyway I dry it out as best I can and reassemble. Now I plug in the headphones, and guess what... I make calls... i.e. the damn phone works as a phone. I pull the jack out and nothing. I turn on speaker mode ... I can hear the phone ringing when I place a call... turn off speaker nothing. Bluetooth works with the phone fine, and the volume control for multimedia makes no sound when I toggle it...
Fast forward to today. I disassemble it again thinking I might have not reconnected one of the straps... I disconnect the volume rocker connector and the usb port connecter plus I remove and re install the antenna housing.
NOW the phone CHARGES but no lightning bolt indicator in the battery... but the battery level is CLEARLY increasing! Also when I plug into a laptop, the usb debugging symbol comes on (since I have it enabled) but when I unplug it does NOT go away... I unplug, disable usb debugging it goes away... reenable usb debugging and the symbol comes back without the phone plugged in until reboot.... but now the phone WORKS again as a phone!
so now the phone:
charges but without any visual indication (other than the % reporting of the battery widget I use)
phone recognized by my laptop (which wasnt' working either until I reset some of the connectors today), but unplugging doesn't make usb debugging indicator in status bar go away.
Phone speaker and mic now working without having to use bluetooth, plug-in headphones or speaker phone. (mic was not working with speakerphone turned)
This is just too messed up. My sweat does carry a lot of salt.... and Im wondering if I managed to shake something loose... I did also pry the usb tab up a bit as well...
Is there some way... some fluid I can dunk the phone into, which might clean the thing without destroying it?

My galaxy nexus after some drops not charging.
It can only work only when i have connected with my laptop, charger.
I think usb port is ok.
I must buy a charging port to make that work?