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Hi all,
I've just spent a good amount of time browsing these forums - lots of good info here!
I've got my hands on a free i-mate jasjar from work as it is having battery issues and they just upgraded the user.
The issue is that it drains the battery in about 3-4 hours - thats with no sim in, phone / wireless / bluetooth turned off, very minimal use. We got a new battery for it in case that was the issue but it still loses it...
The other ones we have at work get at least a day / day and a half depending on usage.
I've reflashed it to the latest i-mate firmware (1.30.76 WWE) but stilll no luck....
Aside from sending it off for an expert to look at - does anyone have any suggestions on what i can do to diagnose / fix the problem?
Cheers
Sam
disable activesync checks
in wm5 activesync checks every 10 minutes or so for new data even if you do not have a server installed.... so.... here are the steps.....
with the device disconnected from the computer !
1. click "start"
2. click "programs"
3. click "activesync"
4. right soft button "menu"
5. click "add server to source"
6. fill in "1" in every field clicking "next" as you go through the proccess! (or any other fake data you want)
when you get to choosing what to sync, uncheck everything and click "finish"
7. right soft button "menu" again, now you'll have "schedule" lit
8. click "schedule"
9. change both drop down menus to "manually" and uncheck s"end outgoing items immediately"
10. click "ok"
11. right soft button "menu" again
12. click "options"
13. select the "exchange server", click "delete" and "yes"
14. click "ok"
YOUR DONE !
the device should last a lot longer !
have fun !
p.s.
don't forget to disable IR so the device won't try syncing with the sun ....
Great - I've set it up and will test it out over today - thanks for the reply
Make sure your infra red is also off, receive all beams is unticked.
Presumably you're not using any over clocking software? They disable the idle mode detection so make the battery less efficient, even at slow clocked speeds.
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Infrared is off, currently its got fresh firmware as off yesterday, charged overnight - no sim, every conceivable option turned off, no extra s/w installed.
Since 9am its now down to 85% - roughly using 10% per hour with zero use....
I have the Same Issue ,the battey use very fast .
at the first I think may be is the net lock make that, But yesterday ,I try to use the unlock tools ,but same as it.
the charge complete. close all function ,can't use more than 8 hour's.
I've the same issue,...change a batery with a new one, BUT when it goes les than 70% all the problem start, loose the phone signal, shot down....I've a official Qtek 9000 ROM of febr. '06
Andrea
Andre77ab said:
I've the same issue,...change a batery with a new one, BUT when it goes les than 70% all the problem start, loose the phone signal, shot down....I've a official Qtek 9000 ROM of febr. '06
Andrea
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I think That's the Radio or Hard device error.
If other Rom have not This issue. I think that's this rom make it .
There are a number of threads regarding batteries and new ROM versions and I think the concensus is that its the battery and it is just coincidence about the new ROM.
I have had my device for about 8 months and it has behaved well until a few weeks ago when it started to shut-down at 70-80% battery. The shutdown only occured when I had a heavy drain on the device e.g. when using GPRS or phone and I started to think that the battery was dying and the heavy current drawn by the radio caused the battery voltage to drop below a sustainable threshold for powering the device - hence the shutdown. £20 later I have a new battery (from eBay) and can go 1-2 days without charging. I am leaving the old battery on charge for several days to see if it can be salvaged
weasel said:
There are a number of threads regarding batteries and new ROM versions and I think the concensus is that its the battery and it is just coincidence about the new ROM.
I have had my device for about 8 months and it has behaved well until a few weeks ago when it started to shut-down at 70-80% battery. The shutdown only occured when I had a heavy drain on the device e.g. when using GPRS or phone and I started to think that the battery was dying and the heavy current drawn by the radio caused the battery voltage to drop below a sustainable threshold for powering the device - hence the shutdown. £20 later I have a new battery (from eBay) and can go 1-2 days without charging. I am leaving the old battery on charge for several days to see if it can be salvaged
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Thank you help, But I return to the old version ROM. the batteries is OK. I don't know how to explain them
Try measuring the power consumption with acbPowerMeter and post your results so that we can see your device indeed has problems or not. See my related articles for more info (cross-posted to the General forum in here).
My Universal power consumption
With BT on and Wifi off power is at 642 mA...
Is it bad or good?
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With BT on and Wifi off power is at 642 mA...
Is it bad or good?
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What that's mean?
it means that the device has bt turned of, and also wifi turned of and acbmeter indicates a power consumption of 642
I also seem to have started incurring a problem with battery, it is shutting down the device at 50%, and yes there was a slight draing GPRS and Push Email running, and trying to make a phone call.
It only really happened today, and am at a loss as to the cause. I would guess, the battery is 1 year old and probably needs replacing.
i have been using two different 3.2 roms ltcmdr, then jw's for a while now and no problems until today.
I suspect its the age of the battery. I am in the process of trying to suck the battery down as far as I can, then recharge it.
It appears to do a complete shutdown every 2% from 50% to 40%, I am now trying to get it to less than 40%.
My original battery lasted me for about 8 months when I started experiencing the shutdown / hanging problem whenever the charge would drop to 35%. I replaced the battery with a new original battery and all went okay. Unfortunately my second battery is only 5 months old and I have started experiencing the same problem again although this time the problem is occurring at a charge level of 15%. When the battery reaches this level and I try to connect GPRs or make or receive a call the unit hangs. If I try to soft reset I cannot do so till I connect the external charger.
I think such a low battery life is simply unacceptable.
Regards
Ever wonder how a battery tells the system that it is full and to stop charging?
If you get a new battery, take the old one down to somewhere below 100% -then install a new ROM and see what the battery meter reads after the hard reset.
The system must recognize a point which would be monitored and recognized as "full battery". When installing new ROM's, the system takes the battery power at the time of the install as 100%. This is why it is reiterated in almost all ROM upgrade instructions:
"Your device battery must be fully charged before installing this ROM".
However, I'm not so keen as to have a fix; but I've noticed that when the battery is fully charged and the device is then unplugged, turned on and then off, then plugged back in...it seems to charge alot longer than what I would expect necessary to reach 100% once again.
dhob187 said:
in wm5 activesync checks every 10 minutes or so for new data even if you do not have a server installed.... so.... here are the steps.....
with the device disconnected from the computer !
1. click "start"
2. click "programs"
3. click "activesync"
4. right soft button "menu"
5. click "add server to source"
6. fill in "1" in every field clicking "next" as you go through the proccess! (or any other fake data you want)
when you get to choosing what to sync, uncheck everything and click "finish"
7. right soft button "menu" again, now you'll have "schedule" lit
8. click "schedule"
9. change both drop down menus to "manually" and uncheck s"end outgoing items immediately"
10. click "ok"
11. right soft button "menu" again
12. click "options"
13. select the "exchange server", click "delete" and "yes"
14. click "ok"
YOUR DONE !
the device should last a lot longer !
have fun !
p.s.
don't forget to disable IR so the device won't try syncing with the sun ....
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Will still be able to browse with my device? thx
Hello EveryOne,
I have Imate PDA2K and any one who is going to solve my following two issues i will pay him $5 as a gift from me by PayPal.
The problems are:
1. When ever i remove the battery of my phone to change the sim card the time and date changes to the default time and date something like the manufature date. I try to upgrade the rom to wm5, then wm6 but nothing help. Even the backup battery is showing 100% full all the time.
2. When ever i try to call i press the answer button but the call don't connects. Some times connects and some time i have to try hundreds of time to connect my call. Same thing is for the recieving the call. Some time it connects and sometimes it hangs during answering the call.
I will really pay $5 who will help me to sort out these problems. I buy this device as pre-owned device that's why not able to get help at clubimate.com and hence plan to get help here and pay a part of pre-owned fee to someone here.
Thank you,
1.) it's a backup battery problem, change the backup battery.
eventhough it says 100% doesnt mean it's not failing.
the backup battery is charging from your main battery.
it may show 100% but easy recharged when you put the main battery.
if it is easily recharged... it will easily discharge... hence, flat batt.
2.) i dont know this but it maybe related to main battery failing to give power to the phone module. i had a BA with no service /and/ talks disconnection once but when i changed to a new battery it was gone.
SilverSamurai said:
1.) it's a backup battery problem, change the backup battery.
eventhough it says 100% doesnt mean it's not failing.
the backup battery is charging from your main battery.
it may show 100% but easy recharged when you put the main battery.
if it is easily recharged... it will easily discharge... hence, flat batt.
2.) i dont know this but it maybe related to main battery failing to give power to the phone module. i had a BA with no service /and/ talks disconnection once but when i changed to a new battery it was gone.
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Thanx for your response...
1. Can backup battery easily changable i mean is it like a big battery like we have in our pc motherboards or a special service center have to change it?
2. Let me change the baterry today and see what happens.
no prob... just add your reward to your battery procurement.
and i hope that works...
What else may be?
mustking said:
Thanx for your response...
1. Can backup battery easily changable i mean is it like a big battery like we have in our pc motherboards or a special service center have to change it?
2. Let me change the baterry today and see what happens.
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I have changed the battery today and it done the same call answering problem just one time in over 20 calls before this ratio was 99% of 100% times.
What else may be creating this problem of hanging mobile during recieving the call. And also please tell me which rom of wm6 is best you think i will use?
install 2003se rom back, if u hv 2005.
try xplode's latest cook. it's in the WM6 thread of BA
The rom does not matter (well mine is a lil quicker than others but)
1. Simple SIM change procedure - press power, wait 10-20 sec. , then remove the battery and change the sim. after powering on hit reset once (or you will get no radio) - this way the date will not reset
2. Phone LAG - this problem occures when a lot of memory and cpu power is used for the OS, then the phone starts to lag. Here is a simple tweak which will speed up the phone app - press Start => Settings => Sounds & Notifications , remove the check for Events (warnings, system events)
there are a lot of tweaks which will speed up overall performance of the phone, but you need to search the forums for them
And remember, the phone app is the same for all WM5/6 devices so the tweaks are the same, you can look in other devices forums for tweaks
Thnx Every One!
Hello,
Thank you every one for your replies.
I changed the battery and currently checking it to make sure the problems got solve out.
hello,
i used original WM6.0 ROM until 2 weeks ago. my battery kept 3 days back then (only 2G, no WLAN, no 3G).
now i upgraded to the actual 6.5.x ROMs (23xxx and 28xxx quePPC and TAI).
the battery drains extremely.
i recharged 100% - left the phone unused for 7h - and have only 80% left. That's way to much - for a unused phone.
My question is:
- what ROM can you recommend, that saves battery life almost as good as the original 6.0 ?
- i still have the original 6.0 ROM Upgrade-Setup-Exe.
Wow can i downgrade to original ROM - only the WM, i want to keep
the installed HardSPL - and want to keep the installed RadioRom.
My technical data:
- herm100
- radio 1.47.00.00 ( i never used another one!)
- all "DisablePowerManagement"-Registry Settings are = 0
- Beam is off
- background light is lowest level
- 3G is off
Adjust your background lighting. Take it from full brightness to about half and your battery life will increase alot. Also adjust how long before the screen turns itself off. This helps a lot also. All this can be done in settings.
I recomend you... WM6.0 or feed back your questions on the right thread please Three days? WOW i always need to recharge my hermes everyday and i tho it was normal... jijijiji
Yes you can downgrade to WM6.0 again and the Hardspl remains
LOL! I charge my phone nightly also. I never even got 3 days of battery on my wizard. Heck my wife doesn't get 3 days on her sidekick!
@queppc: what exactly do i have to do to flash back to original rom - to keep hardspl (i have the original setup package) .
i need to change Romupdateutility.exe somehow - or take of the bootloader of the setup-package - don't i ?
@addicus/all: yes, 3 days is possible. and about the wizard. my wife has a wizard. she charged it last monday - then yesterday (friday).
that's even 4 days! - but i have to admit, she hardly uses it. only once a day email check (via WLAN), 1-2 SMS - that's it.
(by the way: i already turned my backlight to lowest level)
ok - I use my phone constantly - phone calls, internet browsing, texting, picture viewing. I'm a freaking junkie. I get a day out of mine (with extended battery) and make sure I charge while driving because bluetooth headset and speaking drain the battery a lot!
Not to mention using Tomtom......
hello,
i didn't downgrade to 6.0 yet (since i still don't know what's exactyl to do - to downgrade, but keep hardspl?)
but it looks like my problem is gone:
all i changed is
- i reformated my SDHC card (i assume this is not the reason)
- i changed my band settings to GSM / GSM 900+1800 + UMTS 2100
-> before i only switched of 3g with the wireless manager - i thought it's the same, but maybe not.
both changes does not really sound like the solution to my battery problem - but it is.
now i have good battery life again! ok, my PDA has never 100%, after taking it of the charger it immediately goes to 97%. then in the beginning it drains a litte faster - it does not take long to around 86% or even 81%.
But then the battery indicator decreases very, very slow.
maybe that battery-indicator with single 1% steps is not that accurate (?)
now my hermes battery drain is ok again. it rests for more than 2 days - depends on usage of course.
i assume if i don't use it it rests for 3 days (i never had the chance to not use it for 3 days ;-)
AFTER THIS - i also did another update. i use TAI V4 now (28205 build). battery life is still ok.
I recharge my phone every night and it is enough for using one day, BUT if I am listening audio book via Bluetooth the battery is empty in two - three hours!
Most of wm6.5 roms have the infrared beam automatically turned on. It drains battery! If it doesn't appear on comm. manager you have to do this:
Open "Advanced Config", then click Menu -> More Settings -> Comm Manager. There select Beam. If you want to choose among more than 6 comm you have to choose on the top Button style: Default
Then soft reset
When turned on again, go to connections and check if Beam is turned on or off.
hystrix65 said:
Most of wm6.5 roms have the infrared beam automatically turned on. It drains battery! If it doesn't appear on comm. manager you have to do this:
Open "Advanced Config", then click Menu -> More Settings -> Comm Manager. There select Beam. If you want to choose among more than 6 comm you have to choose on the top Button style: Default
Then soft reset
When turned on again, go to connections and check if Beam is turned on or off.
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Great information right there. Also to the OP - if you want a WM 6.0 rom and keep HardSpl - just flash the rom. That's what you're doing when you flash the base AT&T rom before flashing a custom rom anyways. If I were you I'd go no lower than 6.1 though. In fact, you may want to try one of CRC's roms as they are very stable.
hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
I'm not a pro, but I think this means that everything is alright with the battery. I would rather worry if the voltage was below 3,7 V - that would definitely mean a problem.
well i find wat u say is logical but still im having some small prob in my phone.....
it keeps working well and suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged (means no calls and sms) after couple of mins mobile just researches the network and joins.
the prob is when this thing happens and someone calls me the call is ringing but i dont get any ring or alert in my mobile.......
also sms is not delivered kater but is lost completely......
i jus looked out somewhere that these probs may be due to battery........
Battery issue reply...........
nataraj_latest said:
hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
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I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
well savain
thanks for ur reply.....
did u have the same kind of prob like the over voltage???
savain01 said:
I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
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I've just chcecked the output voltage of my battery - when 45% charged - the voltage was 3.82 V.
in my opinion, your problem has nothing to do with the battery. I had same problem that you described - I switched to WM6 from WM5 - it did the trick.
now it hangs very seldom.
I guess that would help you (at least if you're using WM5).
oh but im using 6.1 at present
its TOM'S ROM.....
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*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
* for issue with - ''suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged..''
try a hard reset, if it still happens, open the device - open through the back of the device and simply give it a clean, ensure all connections are connecting, in other words, scratch the pins inside device if they need it.. assemble correctly and hope this helps..
-use cotton buds, the ones you use to clean your ears with..
-use a pin/needle to scratch connections..
*sounds like a hardware issue, not rom issue so cleaning inside the device is recommended..
*I've fixed my p3300 plenty of times now by just simply cleaning inside it.
- including the ''not charging'' and ''no sim'' issue people have experienced..
Not charging
HI Geeks, I have a problem with my blackstone battery. It is getting charged only up to 50 to 55 percent. I kept on charger for one ful night. But no use. I am using official ROM. Can you suggest any solution for that?
Help PLZ
I tired both the charger and the USB cable. Still the problem remains.
A new problem
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
royi386 said:
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
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*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
i have a weird kind of battery issue
i plug in my AC adapter
the orange light lights up, for about 5 seconds
then , it keeps flashes orange
i power up my phone for about 5 seconds, it dies
any charge method will keep flashing orange
is my phone battery dead?
Does anyone have my issue ???
I am charging and charging and the indication shows as charging plus the percentage is increasing like normal. However, when I restart the system it shows more than charge percent. Most cases it shows 100%. For instance, show 82 % but after restart device shows 92 or 100%. Please help me experts. Thank a lot in advance for taking your time to reply
Hi there!
This topic is continuation, but much more specific than my last one topic: (Screen starts to glow on it's own???).
Please do not close this topic, if you need - close the old one, thanks in advance.
I have problem, like in the topic: while in sleep mode, my phone's screen lights on, then off, and repeats for few times every couple of minutes.
It's problematic for three reasons:
1. my screen battery consumption is now over 60% (I don't use my phone frequently for last few days to check the problem - but still, consumption is very high)
2. due to point number one - very fast battery usage (less than a day)
3. it lights on like a lamp in the night, so I can't keep it near me
I have made small research in google and found out, that that is not a new problem, as you can see for yourself:
http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/htc-one-x-help/443-htc-one-x-blinking-while-sleep.html
http://www.htcdesiresforum.com/htc-...creen-blinks-once-every-minute-in-sleep-mode/
http://www.htcdesireforum.com/htc-desire-troubleshooting/screen-keeps-flashing-lock-screen/
etc.
I have no apps in the background running, I have wifi or other data transfer disabled for the moment. I have also done factory reset for 1 time - no luck here as well.
There seems that there is no logical explanation of the problem, and due to the reading I've done - seems like a software issue rather than hardware.
Please advice! :crying:
1. are you on stock?
2. when it started this behavior?
3. was there an update for your system before this behavior? (applies only if you are on stock).
these are questions you'll need to answer in order to get help. if you are on stock, the only help i can suggest is to root your device and at least flash Titanium Kernel #5 - that should definitely increase battery life but idk if it will cease your problem. another suggestion is that you can flash a custom rom that 99% of the time will solve it.
cheers