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Hi
I have just had a really bad thing happen to my XDAIIs :evil:
I disconnected it from the USB Power/Sync cable and it did a hard reset!!!
So Now I have to re-install all my apps etc, which are currently 3000 miles away in UK (I am in USA this week).
Apart from the obvious inconvenience of spending an hour or so getting everything setup as I want it again, wht caused this to happen.
On a side note, what's the "best"backup software to use to help mediate against this happening again.
Cheers
Ouch nasty :-(
I keep hard resetting mine by accidently pushing power button as I push stylus in (just the way I hold it). :-(
I'm using Sprite Backup:
http://www.spritesoftware.com/home.html
Sorry again to hear about this :-(
thanks for the advice - I'll look at sprite
I have not managed to do a hard reset by pushing the power button, how do you manage to do that?
Well when I do a reset, I hold the device with my left hand and the thumb on the left hand side and my fingers on the right/top right.
But then as I go to push the stylus in the hole I always have to tilt it up to find the hole (strangely the microphone won't reset it) and in doing so I automatically move my index finger to the top to stop me pushing the device straight out my hand with the stylus and it always rests on the power button.
As I push the stylus the entire device moves and a little... and voila.
It's obviously just me as never heard anyone else having this "problem", but must say I find it a bit annoying and always have to try and remember to move my finger first!
Hope that made sense?
I think I figured out what you're doing, but I can not get my BA to hard reset when doing this, it just powers off
It should do!
If you're pushing power button WHILST pushing the reset hole/button with the stylus that should perform a hard reset (as that's the only way it's supposed to do it - apart from removing battery for 20+ mins!)
Ahh - I now understand what you're doing to hard reset; I had misunderstood before.
I rarely need to soft reset now that I've removed O2 actived & connections.exe (thanks to this forum)
Happened to me
The other day, I was to be on the phone for about an hour (Siemens SX66) and decided to plug the car charger in to save my battery for the day. Got in the car, plugged in the cable to the phone but did not have the other end in the 12volt outlet. At first when I looked at the phone, it appeared to do a soft reset, then I realized it was a hard reset. No explanation on what happened. My fingers were no where near the power button and I did not push the reset button under the phone. Thankfully I just did a backup via activesync, so I went back into the house and restored. Took over an hour, but my phone was back to where it was from 2 hours ago. Only 2 apps I could think of that would cause this is Spb Pocket Plus OR Phone Alarm. My newest additions to the phone.
At least I'm not the only one who has experienced this type of problem - it might be some sort of "spike" when connecting/disconnecting from the external power connector because my problem occurs just as I disconnected from my USB power/sync lead (not the cradle, just a flying lead)
I've now bought a copy of Sprite and am backing up my XDA on a daily basis. Only takes a few minutes. I'm going to hard reset at the weekend & try to restore a backup.
I too have experianced a hard reset many many times. On saturday evening the battery was full. Sunday morning, it was dead, plugged in the charger and it reset. Sometime i have caught it early, for some reason somthing seems to make the battery drain very fast like 100% to 20% in minutes, and not even in use, but powered off.
Another problem is the backup battery is naff, if i remove the main battery, even for a split second, it resets. Apparantly a common fault, and summat to do with the rear switch not making good contact.
You could be on to something here. I remember that my XDA was plugged in to my laptop via a USB2.0 port on a PCMCIA card. I have since found out that this port DOES NOT provide sufficient power to charge the battery (I can see it discharging) , so I must ensure that I use the USB1.1 port on my laptop's motherboard which I know can charge up the XDA. My settings are to leave the PDA switched on when connected via external power and so it could have easily drained the battery overnight and when I removed it in the morning *POOF*
Hello all,
Right now i'm using, the schapps Rom 3.30 portuguese, but unfortunately, it doesn't have car charging support. Schapps, don't know how to do it. The Faria Rom's, have this issue solved, and i´ve asked on his thread, if he can share the knowledge, but till now, no answer.
Anyone knows the solution and can share it with the Rom's developer's?
Theres any .cab, or registry solution to fix this?
Thks in advance
AP
What does it mean "car changing support"? AFAIK you just connect miniUSB plug from you power supply in the car to Hermes munuUSB port and it starts charging - it doesn't matter it the power comes from car, computer or AC power supply. Is there anything I miss here? How the device could see any difference? Some special "vibrations" on the power current?
jakubd said:
What does it mean "car changing support"? AFAIK you just connect miniUSB plug from you power supply in the car to Hermes munuUSB port and it starts charging - it doesn't matter it the power comes from car, computer or AC power supply. Is there anything I miss here? How the device could see any difference? Some special "vibrations" on the power current?
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whilst that may seem a funny comment to make, i've noticed that mine and a freinds phone "deciding" on not bothering to take a charge from a car charger seemingly randomly. Cant see how it could be a hardware thing so can only assume that theres something in the software which instructs the phone to charge should a cable be plugged in.
af123ctrp2 said:
Hello all,
Right now i'm using, the schapps Rom 3.30 portuguese, but unfortunately, it doesn't have car charging support. Schapps, don't know how to do it. The Faria Rom's, have this issue solved, and i´ve asked on his thread, if he can share the knowledge, but till now, no answer.
Anyone knows the solution and can share it with the Rom's developer's?
Theres any .cab, or registry solution to fix this?
Thks in advance
AP
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it might be your car battery, is it in good condition and is it giving out the correct volts, i remember that i couldnt charge my laptop from my car because the voltage was too low.
some rom work, other dont..
It's not so simple. In some roms, after i connect the cable, the PDA start immediately charging, on others it wont. It's a software problem. Faria have corrected it on the roms that he's making. Some other don't.
(it's not a car battery problem...)
AP
It's a hardware/power management "Feature" - the reason for it and the solution is discussed in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277742&page=3
I'll be getting my soldering iron out at the weekend.
Just before you start burning yourself ;-) this is what I think happens...
I had mine plugged into my car charger the other day and it was charging away merrily (it wasn't whistling or anything...) and then sometime later on, I noticed that the charging light wasn't on.
I assumed at first it was the charger that was broken but I tried it again a couple of days later and it was working again so I put it down to a loose connection and carried on.
It stopped charging again later on but this time, I noticed what did it - it was because I'd received a message (or missed a call...one of 'em Now, I've not yet check if it did stop charging or if the indicator was just blinking for the message or something but it's worth checking before you start taking your phone apart
Cheers,
Smiffy.
This happens on mine (black 2.0) all the time. A soft reset will get it going again, so it looks like a software thing - and yes, receiving a text message seemed to kill the charge at any point too.
Car and AC mains chargers that worked with the HTC Wizard don't always work well with the TyTN. They work fine if the TyTN is completely powered off (hold power button down for a few second seconds and do a full shut down). But if the TyTN operating system is running and the phone is on or in standby, it only charges the first time after a soft reset. If it goes into standby, then it doesn't charge any more. This is an issue in software - the TyTN is checking for certain wiring of the charger and certain pins having the right voltages on them.
Faria's ROM truly fixed this somehow in the ROM. Unfortunately I had to soft reset Faria's ROM every day, so went back to Black and stability.
Lordsmiff said:
Just before you start burning yourself ;-) this is what I think happens...
I had mine plugged into my car charger the other day and it was charging away merrily (it wasn't whistling or anything...) and then sometime later on, I noticed that the charging light wasn't on.
I assumed at first it was the charger that was broken but I tried it again a couple of days later and it was working again so I put it down to a loose connection and carried on.
It stopped charging again later on but this time, I noticed what did it - it was because I'd received a message (or missed a call...one of 'em Now, I've not yet check if it did stop charging or if the indicator was just blinking for the message or something but it's worth checking before you start taking your phone apart
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I'll be taking the usb plug in the car charger apart and soldering it - not the phone
Shorting the pins (in the charger - not the phone) as described in the thread I linked to should resolve all of these issues.
I have used this method - It work
I have the same problem with car and home (not HTC) chargers.
I've found
If charging in the car all is ok until the power is cut, then it only charges whilst off until the TYTN is soft reset.
This looks to me like there is a software / powercontroller confilct. It is a little confusing but see the scenarios below;
Soft reset TYTN, leave it off. Plug in to cigarette charger, turn TYTN on/off all is fine.
Turn off TYTN and unplug, all is fine, plug back in (TYTN off) will still charge when TYTN on.
Turn TYTN on, unplug, will not charge whilst on anymore until soft reset but will charge whilst off.
This is the same if I turn the ignition to power the lightere socket.
However, another spanner in the works, if I pull out the charger even with the device off and re-insert it it stops charging until soft reset.
What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on. After that I was able to unplug, plug in even when the unit was on, turn ignition off/on etc... It only reverted back to not charging when I removed the charger from the socket as it was charging.
These are my findings and I presume each charger will be different.
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Sadly no news from Faria
i've done lot's of research and haven´t found anything to fix this.
It seems that Faria is the only that know what to do.
still waiting.
AP
A Call to Faria
Ok, I've read a lot about this and no doubt, is a soft related problem.
I have asked about this in various threads and at the moment there are only 3 solutions:
-Tweak the USB cable
-Buy a special charger
-Install any of the Faria's roms.
Faria, Please, can u share your soft solution?
I' using now the Schaps Spanish Rom...
Hello people
A couple of hours ago, my phone shut down due to empty battery. I came home, plugged it in and booted it, all was fine. At about 60% I shut it off and went to have lunch, when I came back and tried to turn it on, I couldn't.
Led was orange at the time, I unplugged the power cord but the led stayed on! I removed the battery to be able to reboot it, but when I re-inserted it I still wouldn't boot.
Now no matter how I try to charge it, led stays off like it's not charging. Tried various different cables/chargers, the same. Tried to plug it to the charger without battery but no led flashed. Tried to boot without sim/sd card, still the same.
Any ideas?
My battery has never been changed (for a year now) and has had a bunch of full drains. Could this be a dead battery? :/
Well seems the phone is fried... I tried two more official batteries and no go...
Sorry to hear it. I thought that at first when I read your thread but I thought because I am not the most experienced person here, there might be some kind of fix.
HTC will most likely if not certainly replace this handset for you, seeing as it just happened out of the blue.
Well I certainly hope so, problem is I suspect it's an import (from another European country) and local HTC service generally does not do well with European imports.
Anyway I'll give it a try, meanwhile I'm getting a sensation soon
I have a similar problem.
I'm lucky that my girlfriend has the same handset as I do, the I could compare the phone abnormal behavior tho that of her properly working phone.
The first thing I've noticed, after a while when the charger was attached, was that the phone is very hot and that the battery keeps draining out in a surprisingly high rate.
After a while I've noticed that even when the phone is turned off it wont recharge. Sometimes the Orange LED is on when recharging while it is off, and the LED stays on for a few seconds after removing the charger, as if it was still charging. Note that the affects of connecting the charger to the phone, are mainly the ones listed below (not necessarily altogether)
* The phone indicates as if it recharges.
* Going to an infinite loop of rebooting and crashing.
* Getting hot when power supply is plugged, or at any time when the phone is turned on.
Ultimately the battery was empty, and the only way I had to keep using the phone (mostly to diagnose the symptoms listed here) was to swap the battery with the one of my girlfriend's device, and charge my battery in her device while using her's. That's the place to mention that the battery works just fine and that the phone is draining any battery, no matter what.
I took it apart to have a closer look at the source of all of the heat emitted while the phone is turned on, and it seem to come from the motherboard itself.
That's all I have.
The worst thing is that a friend of mine who helped me opening it up broke the pcb of the volume keys. Now I checked and It turns out that that pcb is actually part of the flex cable, which sort of extension of the motherboard and is mainly the second most important piece of hardware of all the phone parts (not that there are so many). If I would be able to expose the conductors inside the flat cable I might be able to solder an alternative volume pad I'll make out of old some miniature switches I have. The cable is very thin. any Ideas of how to expose the relevant conductors without ripping the cable apart?
Just a (late) update:
It's been almost two years, I had given the phone to a close friend of mine after a couple of weeks since writing the first post, just in case he could resurrect it, nothing.
Then, a couple of months down the road, the phone suddenly woke up! He tried to connect it with the charger, after months of not being able to charge or boot it up and somehow it worked. And it has been working flawlessly ever since.
I just got it back to give to my girlfriend until her sensation is fixed, flashing Viper now
In case something like this happens to any of you, don't give up!
I have GSM Galaxy Nexus bought from eXpansys USA .
The problem is it often shows charging sign, while in reality it is not charging. And it drains battery like crazy. More over, when you actually connect the charger, it will not charge it, though the charging icon is on on the task bar.
Rebooting doesn't help. You can only fix it by removing battery. But next day it is the same. I've tryed to factory reset it - no use.
The frimware is 4.0.1. Mine didn't get OTA. I'm wondering if I upgrade it manually will it loose the warranty (since I have to root)?
The problem is described here also:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-nexus-owners-report-battery-problem-50006595/
What can you suggest?
Thanks.
I had this same problem and found a massive Google thread on this:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...um&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Personally, I discovered it was a hardware, and not a software issue. The female USB port on the phone itself has an electrical contact in the middle. This was bent down so that it nearly touched the bottom of the phone.
Because of the larger tolerance on the female port, it's possible to shove the USB plug in and push the metal contact to the bottom. This means you've never really plugged the cord in, because the female contact isn't touching any of the metal contacts on the male side. This results in all sorts of weird OS issues, including the OS reporting it's "Not Charging" when it's on AC, and booting up with a charged icon and never changing.
I took a knife and while the phone was off, I just pushed the metal contact back up. Booted it up and volia, charging again (with the OS responding immediately).
So now I'm just very careful when plugging charging cables in.
However, the thread I linked has a lot of people reporting other problems, so I don't know if my little hardware fix will work for you.
Okay, gonna try and explain this as best I can, bear with me.
2.5 years ago or something I got a Gnex from Verizon, brand new. The phone would act like a ghost was using it, like someone was interacting with the touchscreen. It'd randomly call contacts, send texts (random letters/numbers), all kinds of weird stuff. Video of it on day 1 HERE doing this. Took it into Verizon, got a new replacement. Never had the problem again. 2 or so years go by, not a single problem, unlocked, flash, all that, never had the problem again.
About a month ago, I upgraded to a Moto X and passed this phone on to a family member. At the time was running the latest stable Cyanogenmod ROM, the last for JB. 10.2 maybe? Anyway, that's what ROM was on it, again, no problems. Factory reset the phone to wipe my stuff, left it rooted and unlocked. I gave them the phone, battery, extended battery, and a few cases as well, no charger cause I know they'd twist up and destroy the factory cable. Setting the phone up for them battery starts going low, used their charger. Cable had shorts and crap, scavenged around looking for good charger. Get phone set up for them, and I'm done, handed off.
A day later, they're complaining that the phone is going crazy, like a ghost is using it, and it's randomly calling people, sending texts, opening menus, not charging, etc. Sounds like EXACT same issue I had with my very first Gnex that I exchanged. Figured that was really strange, maybe it was the software. Factory reset to latest factory image 4.2.2, lock BL back up, completely bone stock. Re-setup phone and all that jazz. Phone's acting fine. Decided this time that'd I'd let them have the original stock charger, thinking maybe that'd help with the charging issues too. All seems well....
However, during the reset and all, and after re-setting up the phone, battery is low.... plug it in with a known good charger of mine, but not stock original, and all the sudden the phone's freaking out again. Turn screen off, turns itself back on. Dialing people, opening apps on its own, etc. Figure maybe this Gnex just won't take any charger except it's original. Pull battery, reboot, phone's fine, fine for 10+ minutes. Plug in OEM charger this time, wait a few seconds, unplug, phone goes crazy.
Also interesting, they brought another charger of theirs with a little red LED on, plug it into wall, red LED comes on. Interestingly, if the charger is unplugged from wall with red LED off and I plug it into the phone.... the red LED on the wall charger turns on... that's not right. So.... here's where I'm at now. If I pull battery, reboot, and never attach a charger, the phone acts perfectly fine. The instant I plug in ANY charger, it'll start going wacko and continue to until I pull battery and reboot. At first I thought this was a charger issue, but now... I'm thinking it's battery related. This little experiment of getting the phone to go crazy after plugging in a charger applies to both the OEM and extended battery, regardless of what charger I use.
When I owned the phone, I almost exclusively used the OEM charger, occasionally another charger I had that I know works fine. Gave Gnex to family member WITHOUT a charger, so they were forced to use who know what condition phone charger. I'm wondering if maybe some rogue jacked up phone charger with shorts in it and crap somehow killed the extended battery. Then, they switched to the OEM battery, and again, unknowingly killed that battery too with the same crap charger. So maybe buying a new battery would fix the issue and only using the OEM charger from now on or the other one that was mine that I know works? Or maybe the phone is just broken now? It just doesn't seem right that plugging a phone into the micro-USB should turn ON the red LED on the charger when it's not plugged into the wall, like the power is coming out of phone and going into the LED...
I just refuse to believe that on the exact same day and within hours of me upgrading to a Moto X and passing on my Gnex that had worked perfectly for 2 years in my possession somehow just happens to "break" or "go bad" on its own. Thought it was software glitch/bug in CM, no. Thought it was incompatible charger, no. Maybe the batteries are bad? Maybe the phone's circuitry got jacked up too? Just seems weird that, as far as I can tell, pulling the battery and rebooting fixes it for good until the battery dies. Within 30 seconds of connecting a charger, the phone goes bonkers.
Any ideas? Feel bad, family member probably thinks I dumped a bad phone on them!
Thanks!
What kind of sorcery was that? I honestly don't know what to say about this other than bad timing? I highly doubt a ghost is possessing the phone.
I know a ghost isn't possessing the phone, I just, that's how I best described it when it was going wacko by itself. Plus, interesting topic title, maybe get a few more people to read it and maybe offer some advice or info or something :laugh:
However, I do have a ghost in my house, or a spirit or something. I've seen him, sitting on my couch before. He died in a fire, smoke inhalation, no smoke alarms in the house. House was sold, completely rebuilt, and I am first to live in it since then. Crazy story for a different forum lol
From what I can see, it's just that the screen isn't working properly because of leaked currents from the battery or the charger... Just get the whole screen replaced (it's hard to only replace the glass layer) and should be fine.
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Leaking currents, had it happen to me before from a bad charger. I doubt it's the battery, try an outlet in a different house, they may have bad power.
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So this "leaking currents" problem, it's a problem with the battery? A problem with the phone, in particular, the screen? It definitely sounds like a rogue bad charger could have done this based on the feedback so far. The "damage" or whatever happened at their house. Just the other night, they brought the chargers and phone and stuff to my house, a different house, problem persisted. So I'm not thinking it's a dirty power issue or anything.
...and so you should have the screen replaced. I've had Motorola and HTC phones with issues responding to touches when charging, and replacing the screen largely eased the problem (although I still ended up getting a new charger because I don't want it to also damage the newly replaced screen).
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Op may also want to consider relocating... ghost home and ghost phone, that's too much!
LOL
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So this "leaking currents" problem, it's a problem with the battery? A problem with the phone, in particular, the screen? It definitely sounds like a rogue bad charger could have done this based on the feedback so far. The "damage" or whatever happened at their house. Just the other night, they brought the chargers and phone and stuff to my house, a different house, problem persisted. So I'm not thinking it's a dirty power issue or anything.
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Could be the battery, could be the USB cables or chargers, could be the USB port on the device, could be the screen. The fact that it only happens when plugged in but with more than one charger and battery makes me suspect the USB port on the device. From my understanding you can buy a replacement. A temporary fix would be to use a charger that charges the battery outside of the phone.
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No ghost... i think
I think its because the charger you use....
I had the same problem, but not with gnx... before gnx I used galaxy i5801...
when I put my mobile in charge, my mobile did some crazy things, like operating itself,...I figured out that the charger I used is not the one I shouldn't use.
every mobile has a charging limits, like voltage restriction..
little difference in voltage could make big difference.
so I changed the charger. problem solved for me.
other than charger.. there are some things can do this, I don't know about all.
I doubt it may caused by your digitizer...maybe is has too much sensitivity, caused by water, dust, pressure, etc....
digitizer and display are not the same.
I faced this one too ( galaxy i5801) before charging problem, but not with gnx.
A digitizer is the part of a touch screen that senses your touch and "digitizes" your gestures into impulses that the phone can understand as commands.
if it continues my last suggestion.... call the priest
Well, I borrowed an OEM standard and extended battery from a friend, neither fixed the problem. My friend did say that similar to my first Gnex, when he first got his, it did the same exact thing, but after a while it stopped and it hasn't done it ever since. I also narrowed it down, or, widened the issue, in that it's not just AC chargers, the exact same stuff happens with a brand new 12V car charger.
Dirty power on the fifth rail of a USB wire. Its either the charger not supplying enough power or a damaged cable.
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My vote is on the screen, due to the digitiser. Replacing the touchscreen could help solve the problem. I was in your family's position when I got a used Motorola Cliq from a friend and the battery was all good, no leaks. Ghosts just started touching it everywhere like a crazed groupie when it went into my possession. No explanation as to why it happened and I didn't look into it that much but replacing the screen is the most likely solution.