Time to kill my Orbit and start again....
It's running painfully slowly and the GPS won't work so I'm going to hard reset my XDA and get rid of the O2 crap, then install TomTom. I know all this stuff is here somewhere but I’m up to my eyeballs in tech articles so…. Questions:
1. Should I upgrade the ROM, and if so can anybody point me to a suitable ROM image? If I do this should I unlock it first?
2. What's the best way of getting a clean install - is it to hard reset then soft reset before the O2 stuff loads? Or should I go for a cosporate install option (is this available for the Orbit) And how do I hard reset?
3. is there an easy way of setting up the O2 connection settings afterwards or do I have to do it manually?
Lots of questions and not enough time….
I have an O2 Orbit. Best thing to do is get it unlocked by imei-check. Then run USPL program from mobile6 forum. Makes it a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong at any time. After this you can flash the ROM to your hearts content. I use Black&Bluev3 and i can truly say that WM6 is amazing. To get a clean install just do a Hard Reset then when it boots back up, before the O2 customization routine runs just Soft reset. That's all there is to it. As far as O2 setting go. Have a look through the upgrading forum. There are usually a few postings of O2 settings. If not let me know. I have the HTC UK settings file on my PC. Anything else you need help with let me know.
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I have an O2 Orbit. Best thing to do is get it unlocked by imei-check. Then run USPL program from mobile6 forum. Makes it a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong at any time. After this you can flash the ROM to your hearts content. I use Black&Bluev3 and i can truly say that WM6 is amazing. To get a clean install just do a Hard Reset then when it boots back up, before the O2 customization routine runs just Soft reset. That's all there is to it. As far as O2 setting go. Have a look through the upgrading forum. There are usually a few postings of O2 settings. If not let me know. I have the HTC UK settings file on my PC. Anything else you need help with let me know.
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Thats different to my understanding of things.
If you are thinking of upgrading the rom (instead of just hard resetting the phone) then you will need to either get your phone CID unlocked with the imei-check team or run the Artemis USPL application prior to loading the new rom file. The USPL program temporarily 'unlocks' the CID whereas imei-check does it permanently. Once you've done either of these methods (I ran USPL as didn't want to pay £40 when I could get it done temporarily for free) you can then flash any of the roms suitable for your phone. I've got an o2 UK supplied Orbit and went with Tom's Black & Blue v3.
When you load the B&B rom it writes over the extended rom so all of the o2 programs are cleared so no need to soft-reset once its been flashed. This way will give you a fully functional phone with a lot of preinstalled apps (all of which are useful if not essential in my opinion) and none of the o2 junk on there.
Your other choice is to hard reset the phone and once its finished it'll prompt you about customising your phone. Simply soft reset before it gets a chance to run the ext_rom and none of the o2 crap will be on there. Now your phone will be pretty much as it left the factory with WM5 installed and thats it. If you're in the UK using o2 then the attached cab file contains all the settings that you'll need for MMS and GPRS etc.
As for question 3, see my previous statement about the cab file. Very useful to keep this as I've re-flashed my phone a few times and it makes the process a whole lot more bearable trust me!
thanks for the valuable info - I'll try Black&Bluev3 once I unlock. Excuse the ignorance, but do I just run the copy the O2 cab file to the Orbit, then run it from there?
Yep, as simple as that Probably best to copy it to your SD card and keep it on there as once the phone has been reflashed you won't have to connect up to a pc to install the network settings.
everything seemed to have gone fine, but after restarting the phone won't recognise the sim - before i even had a chance to enter the pin 3 times it reported that it required the unlocking code, and then refused to accept the unlocking code once I'd got that.
So now I've got a very sleek PDA, but no phone Any idea where I can get an O2 ROM from as I can't see it listed in the Artemis list, and am I looking for a ROM or extended ROM (what is the difference anyway?)
TIA
Peter
The b and b rom your usings originates from the leaked o2 orbit german rom - changed to wwe by bepe and tweaked by tom. So firstly i would try a hard reset or reflashing the rom. You dont need to flash USPL again as its an os only rom. If still not working flash original wm5 rom - see sticky in artemis mobile 6 forum for the link.
Hey..
I think in the moment there are many guys, out there, included me, that share the same problem: all probably unlocked their Dash's, Mail's or whatever using anykind of unlocking method (me, imei-check).
I am using a German MDA Mail, i needed to unlock it, in order to use it with my phone carrier apparently.
Now, the version of my phone is somewhat 1.18, and I want to update it to the WM6, like many others too. Both ways; SPL 1.11 and trying the update itself onyl lead to the same outcome : Invalid vendor/model id !
Many often say: yea, look in the CID unlock thread...well i did, very often, but there is no real solution to that problem, since basically, my Dash is unlocked, and presumably also CID unlocked since i got that from imei-check, which i think is a pioneer in that sector.
So, after all, what can we do!? Is it possible to still trying update that phone?
Hope we can find a solution, cuz i dun feel i am the only guy who has that problem.
I may have the same problem. Are you trying to unlock on Vista or XP?
I got it unlocked on XP, it worked fine i got to admit, no problems at all, my phone now seems to be unlocked and it works with another phone carrier, apart from T-Mo, which should be an indication FOR the CID unlock...
I dont think it is important to App unlock the Mail as well, cuz imei-check said it would be included...soo, would it be reasonable to ask imei-check, or does somebody else have an opinion about that?
I just upgraded to WM6. Here's what I did.
Unlocked it from imei-check. Ran SPL Upgrader. It gave me a Vendor ID being incorrect error.
Then I ran the WM6 upgrader from HTC. It upgraded and rebooted.
Now my phone is running WM6 and everything is fine.
Ha? you serious, thats very cool...well i tried it again with the spl upgrader, he went to 100%, aborted then with an invalid model error...then ran the upgrade afterwards, still didnt work... what about the version, did u take the German or the English one!?
Aaaargh, i am about to freak out..why doesnt it work, both SPL and the WM6 Upgrade give Invalid model errors, before i at least got a invalid vendor id, but not even that anymore...HELP...did imei-checks unlock didnt really work or what...
Yeah, I am very serious. I am using WM6 right now. I have a Dopod C720w.
Ok, here's what I did.
Unlocked through IMEI-check's software.
After that, I ran the SPL Upgrader. It went to 100% then gave me an Invalid Vendor ID error. I exited from there and then ran the HTC WM6 upgrade rom program. That started and slowly went to 100%. It said it had finished its job, so I removed my phone from the cable.
Then I proceeded to totally freak out because my phone looked like it was stuck at the Windows Mobile loading screen. I waited and after a long time, the rom initialised and ran through its first boot sequence.
Now its working perfectly and everything feels a bit faster.
If you went through the exact same steps, then I am not sure what your problem might be. Sorry. To tell you the truth, I am a completely noob at this who just did random steps and was lucky enough for it to work
P.S. I used the WWE (English) version, as I can't read German. I downloaded it off a rapidshare link posted in the big thread about HTC's rom release.
Well, i might not have much more skill either, but it is still quite worrying, is there maybe a difference between model and vendor id !? i am not quite sure what to try anymore, i remember yesterday, that i had a wrong vendor id as well, but today i just always got invalid model ids...very weird...well i will continue trying..do u remember what ur MDA mail version was before u updated it..sth like...1.18 !? by the way, which SPL upgrader are u using?
I am not using a MDA Mail. It's a Dopod c720w, same hardware, different branding.
This is the SPL Upgrader I used:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur/RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe
Try with that. It should work.
I think my version before upgrading was 1.15 something.
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
I had the same problem
but the only thing I did when got those problems was leaving my Vista based laptop and try with an XP based, downloaded the activesync, connected my htc, installed the SPL (downgrade) and then the WM6 WWE ROM, oh, I remember, first I installed the german version by mistake, so I had to repeat the process with the SPL before applying the correct ROM again.
When I was unlocking my HTC, I had some problems on the vista system, and I deactivated the antivirus... Could that be related?
Good Luck!!!
You haven't answered as to whether you're using XP or Vista. I ran into the same issues trying to do the SPL and ROM updates via Vista, when I tried it on my XP system -- both worked without errors.
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Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
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Yeah, after hearing so much about Vista, I used my XP system to update the rom. Worked fine.
i LOVE imei-check, i wrote them an email a moment ago to ask them for support, they replied me after 10 minutes with a full strategy how to encounter the problem, fabulous support i gotta admit, here's what they said:
Hello,
It sounds like you try to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update (e.g. WiFi chip missing T-Mobile ROM on a WiFi enabled HTC device).
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. You only have to use SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS in order to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update:
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
Tools you need:
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- HexWorkshop from http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/
- the ROM of your choice
- Winzip or Winrar
- a valid UNL file for YOUR phone
Preparation:
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a) install HexWorkshop and Winzip or Winrar on your pc
b) in explorer on pc, RIGHT click on the ROM of your choice and use: "Extract files to folder ..." from conext menu Now it will unpack all the files
c) in the new folder you will have ONE file like "HRUU_signed.NBH" (*.NBH) RIGHT click on the .NBH file and use: "Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from context menu
d) You'll see on the 5th row EXCA20000 ==> !!! make it EXCA***** (5 stars) and save the file
e) Now RIGHT click on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use:
"Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from conext menu Search for word
"BsaD5SeoA" (without quotes, case sensitive)
You'll find it around address 0x3FC6C
==> replace "BsaD5SeoA" with "IMEICHECK" (without quotes) and save the file
ROM-Update:
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1) take SIM card and SD card OUT of the phone
2) Connect the phone running windows ce to the pc (normal way).
3) Completely Unlock your phone using our unlocker <== REALLY IMPORTANT
4) After phone is unlocked run unlocker (again) BUT when the unlocker ask for UNL file, remove the USB cable from the phone THEN press "Cancel" on the unlocker select file window (unlocker will close on PC). NOTE: The screen on the device will not show something usefull when in this mode. Most probably it is complete WHITE. !!THIS IS NORMAL!! Don't touch phone, let it like it is!
5) After you closed the unlocker, attach usb cable again (phone has still white screen)
6) start (the modified) ROMUpdateUtility.exe
7) when update finished and device started you will get a message:
"Data Crashed, contact service provider" (!NO PANIC!)
==> Simply fix this problem by running the unlocker again and this time select the key file normal way (full unlock process again).
In case you have problems please indicate the step number/letter which is not clear/not working for you.
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
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P.S., would be a good idea to post this as a sticky, since it really explains how to update a original HTC rom on such wifi lacking Excalibur versions like the MDA Mail,
greets and good night
Did you try to email imei-check?
I know that exactly the same problem occurred when the T-Mo WM6 came out.
Imei-check had sent back their customers who were not able to upgrade a procedure how to modify their unlocker with a hex editor to change the model ID.
BTW: Model ID: there are two different models - EXCA100 and EXCA200 - take a look under your battery - german XDA Cosmo for example is EXCA200 (there the SPL seems not to work)
The other thing is the vendor ID. This seems to be solved by pof's Upgrade SPL 1.11
So simply try to write to imei-check and say that your unlock does not work - in the past they were very customer friendly - hope this didn't change meanwhile
EDIT: OK - vivid was a little bit faster - next time I should refresh the thread before I answer...
FYI !!
saw some post where people was being impatient during the upgrading process and completely abort the process ...etc
you are supposed to be at the logo screen for a period of time ... it doesn't meant it's hanged ... be patience !
just a note
Patience is the key...
Hm, OK, I did it... I bought the fracking UNL, took me one hour to figure how to get rid of the protection (security + antivirus) in my laptop that did not allow me to run the unlocking app. Finally, I got it.
First time I flash the ROM it did not work. I tried using first the SPL, and it worked nicely. After that, I could flash the ROM. Be patient, it takes some minutes to reboot, and it looks like is freezed, but not... wait!
Can´t see much difference from WM5, but I noticed a best performance in wifi connection. Now I´m fracking installing all the goodies I had before... bluetooth keyboard is not working... I will work it out a little bit.
Just in case, if someone wants the UNL for research... PM me.
I am glad it all worked out for you. Didn't know that the MDA Mail came without Wifi.
Wow, I must say, I am glad I used Imei-Check's service as well. That was an extremely helpful reply they sent you. Not seen many companies who do that.
That's exactly what i thought
Maybe we should write them a thankyou email for all their great help in name of the whole xda-developers community what u think
Anyhow, can somebody explain me real quick what should be definitely be installed to WM6?
@PhoenixAG: yeaa stupid T-Mobile GER...they didnt take away the wifi chip on the S710 or the newer ones, have no idea why they did it to the Excalibur then..
It would be a good idea to stick this solution.
I think many users in this forum have exactly the same problem in doing a cross model ID update. You can see Excalibur devices from many countries and carriers here.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Mail too which lacks the Wi-Fi and had to do the same steps after cid-unlocking it through imeicheck.
You have to do it really step by step. I had problems in doing it out of my memory for the new HTC ROM and wondered why it failed. But going through it step by step really works EVERY time I did it and thats now the third time.
First was installing T-Mobile Dash WM6 ROM, second the Russian HTC ROM and now finally the German HTC WM6 ROM.
Hi,
So i just got my MDA compact III (HTC Artemis) and I have noticed that people upgrade them to windows mobile 6.
Unfortunatley this is my first WM phone so I don't understand all these technical terms (ROM, Cooking, CID etc)
can anyone help me? is it worth upgrading? how do i back all my info up? what happens if it goes wrong?
thanks in advance.
COngrats on your new phone.
It is always worth it to upgrade to WM6.
There are 2 kinds of locks: CID and SIM.
SIM locks prevent you from using say a TMO phone on ATT.
CID unlocks prevent you from flashing a new ROM (like a wm6 distribution)
You can use some backup utility to well, back up. Search the forum for one.
If something goes wrong, you can just reflash the RUU, which stands for ROM Upgrade Utility. It has the "default" rom that you get from your new phone.
Thanks. This helped a lot.
Where do I get the WM6 distributions from? how do I install?
does the RUU come with the phone or do I download it from somewhere?
With all due respect to fzzyrn IT IS NOT ALWAYS WORTH UPGRADING!
Since this is your first WM phone and you just got it you should take a few weeks and get to know it.
There rule to follow here is: if it is not broken do not fix it!
WM 6 has only a few small new features (major one being HTML email support) which you may find you do not need.
First thing you need to do is to read the WiKi. You will find detailed explanation about terms like ROM, CID and SIM unlocking there.
Then if you are still determined to upgrade you should be aware of the following risks:
1) If you bought your phone through a cell company changing ROM even to an official version from HTC will void your warranty!
2) You must take care and read the instructions that come with the update you are using. Preforming update incorrectly, having battery run out or phone disconnected from your computer will result in a "bricked" (unusable) device!
3) Some WM 6 ROMs, change your device hardware ID. If you have purchased any programs that lock on to that ID during registration they will stop working.
Now for your phone there are two options:
1) Official update on HTC site (if I am not mistaking should be out already, but I am not sure)
2) "Cooked" or unofficial ROMs. Look for instructions in Artemis forum.
Keep in mind that ROMs are device specific. There is no such thing as generic / universal ROM.
Also keep in mind that various ROM versions including official WM 6 have different bugs. There is no answer to which is best or a guarantee that you like any of them better than your original WM 5 ROM.
Hi all new? here got an o2 orbit need advice?
Im just wondering what i could and should do to improve it, its currently runnin on wm5 i have the official file to update to wm6 but dont want to lock out my orange sim card ?
any advice ?
Hi can i install these special roms on this site without messing up the usual features on my phone . Pleases help?
Yes you can. Make sure you unlock the CID first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308242
Cheers m8 so which rom is recommended at the moment and i wont mess up my phone will i as im unlocked o2 at the moment. Also can i backup my rom im using now simply?? thx again
I have the same phone on o2, (I didn't know Orange done this phone ?) anyway, I would reccomend this ROM, its what im using.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342298
It is based on Windows mobile 6, and has all extra toys to play with.
Read the post, see if you like it (its best one IMO)
Download it, do step one first (This is CID unlocking), then step two (flash the device).
I think you can backup your device now but it depends on what you want to backup.
If you mean backup your contacts, SMS messages, photos ect then sure you can. Copy them with activesync or search google, there are many programs out there.
If you mean backup your device entirely (As in ROM) im pretty sure you can but its not needed. You will find on this site both the offical ROM that your phone came with WM5 so you can go back to that, or the offical ROm for WM6 so you can go back to that.
All custome ROMS are SIM unlocked so you will be able to use your orange sim card.
Hope this helped.
Hello,
My brother messed up his P3300 by putting on a WM6 cooked rom before CID-unlocking.
Now we have a tricolor screen, and nothing else. Not even the original rom of WM5. Does anybody have it? or know how to get it?
Country is the Netherlands
IPL is 3.13.0001
SPL is 3.13.0000
thanks.
bye bye
Makje
I do have the original dutch version of WM6 from HTC, but I suppose you can download that yourself om www.htc.com. I guess this should also work?
Hi, thanks for your replay.
Well, i need the original wm5 first, because it doesn't recognise the wm6 original one from the htc-site. Tried that to. But come to think of it, it was an upgrade.
Right now, there's nothing on the device. Only the tricolour screen
thought i try the wm5 first to see if it works.
Hi i got the backup files from the originele Dutch T-Mobile rom WM5. the only thing you need to do is put it together again. you can use htcrt for it.
Hopefully is works for you!
Fill
Backup Rom Files
PS ... the backup was also found on this forum.
PPS: try to flash it from SDcard
My Orange SPV M650 is also bricked, has somebody the org. WM5 Orange ROM, thanks in advance.
I do have a dutch WM6 T-mobile ROM and a dutch WM6 HTC rom. One of them may be possible to flash.....
Apart from that. How far did you come? What happens when you push the power button? Do you get to the bootloader?
When I see your IPL/SPL I think you forgot to use USPL before flashing another ROM. You can try to use that now and flash the ROM of your choice.....
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I do have a dutch WM6 T-mobile ROM and a dutch WM6 HTC rom. One of them may be possible to flash.....
Apart from that. How far did you come? What happens when you push the power button? Do you get to the bootloader?
When I see your IPL/SPL I think you forgot to use USPL before flashing another ROM. You can try to use that now and flash the ROM of your choice.....
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Well, I took the rom for WM6 of the HTC site. Like a good girl
It went well until i got to the 3% and it stopped the whole proces. It just shut down. If I push the powerbutton you can see the tri colour screen and the rest is in my very first post. My brother did indeed forgot to use USPL. I know. so then he came to me. Afterwards. Smarty-pants. Now we have a bricked device.
This is what i already tried:
- I tried SD-flashing. Nothing happened. (followed the instructions on the wiki-xda-site)
- i tried to put on the wm6 version of the htc site...got the 3% bit, and that's it.
- i tried to put an alternate rom on it, from the uk-idunnowhich-provider...nothing happened. also tried it with a german provider and with the dutch t-mobile provider, also 3% and than nothing (i.e. tri-colour screen)
so now, all i can think of, is to go back to basics...and just start of with the original wm5 rom. Than use USPL and THAN upgrade it. *sigh*
So that's the whole story behind it.
Fill said:
Hi i got the backup files from the originele Dutch T-Mobile rom WM5. the only thing you need to do is put it together again. you can use htcrt for it.
Hopefully is works for you!
Fill
Backup Rom Files
PS ... the backup was also found on this forum.
PPS: try to flash it from SDcard
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ps....hmmmm I tried to so much I'll give it a go!
replay to the pps - did that...about ehm ... 3 days altogether...i got a t-**** saying "I am a hard core SD-flasher"
haha.
thanks for your input though! i wouldn't have known all the same.