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Hi guys,
I am in two minds as to what my next purchase should be. I like the new HTC Polaris and it is what I know, as I currentlt have an Artemis. However the screen resolution is low, not VGA 640x480 which I would like in my next PDA.
I have noticed a few devices which are made by E-Ten that seeem to do all that the artemis does - but they do have a vga screen such as the x800 and x500 models.
Has anyone tried one of the models and would they recommend them? Also do they have a lively developer/modding scene like the Artemis?
Thanks - underzone
eten is very good pda phone, more fast than HTC, but their production will discontinue.
The ETEN looks like a good phone but there's more support for HTC phones. And now that I have a touchflo ROM, I don't know how I could go back to not having touchflo.
I have used 3 mode Eten PDA.And for me HTC better because can mod Rom for your PDA
Polaris for me look very cool,use chip QualComm 7200 (fast) Touch Flo 2.....and...
===> Polaris +1
I had the same dilema, I have an artemis wich I love, but I have it for a year already and HTC is not putting out anythig much better for me to upgrade (and it does not look like they are planning on launching any good vga device soon) so I ordered the Eten X800, it is supposed to get here tomorrow, I'll compare them and will let you know what I think.
P.S. The only thing that stops me from leaving HTC is this site, there is no such a thing for any other brand out there. And I'm hooked.
palmbluetooth said:
I had the same dilema, I have an artemis wich I love, but I have it for a year already and HTC is not putting out anythig much better for me to upgrade (and it does not look like they are planning on launching any good vga device soon) so I ordered the Eten X800, it is supposed to get here tomorrow, I'll compare them and will let you know what I think.
P.S. The only thing that stops me from leaving HTC is this site, there is no such a thing for any other brand out there. And I'm hooked.
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Yeah its this forum & the excellent brewed roms that really makes me want to stick with an HTC... but then again I do really want a VGA screen. decisions, decisions...
How about the new P5500 - slimmed down artemis with touch interface, keyapd, gps, HSDPA etc...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/08/08/htc-5500-nike-touch-slider/
Thinking about Asus, doubts are the processor and the screen size but like the size slightly smaller than the orbit, but little in it, I do miss a keypad.
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/Asus-P526
I got the x800 today, and it is a good pda but I don't think you can compare it to the artemis, the screen is nicer and having 3g it's a whole different browsing expierence, but apart from that it is a bit slow and the design is not as nearly as nice. It's not a bad pda, if it was my only pda I would gladly keep it, but choosing between this and the artemis, I would for sure keep my artemis until I'll find something else. (Maybe I'll try the gigabyte Gsmart i350, if I can get hold of it in america)
Previously got an Eten G500, nothing to do with X500 neither X800.
But i really, really prefer the artemis !
G500 was big, heavy, rom was unstable, and materials used was bad quality and many plastics cracks, painting surface goes away,...
Now i'm really happy to have sold it...
Polaris ===> +1
underzone said:
I like the new HTC Polaris and it is what I know, as I currentlt have an Artemis. However the screen resolution is low, not VGA 640x480 which I would like in my next PDA.
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For me it has to be either Polaris or iMate 9502 - 9502 has VGA, same memory as Polaris (eten is short) and still has all the hardware buttons dropped on the Polaris...
For a span of 4 years I have owned a few handheld devices namely:
in chronological oreder:
HP RX 3715
FS Loox 720
FS Loox N560
Imate Jam
Treo 650
and the Artemis
I like the inbuilt keyboard of the Treo 650, I also like the VGA screen and fast processor of the N560 but the GPS sucks, and I like the OS stability (though still not perfect) and the quick GPS reception of the Artemis.
I like the single hand operability of the Treo 650.
Im getting sick and tired of using the stylus on my Artemis. You cant really use single hand comfortably.
Now Im looking for an upgrade. Something that combines all what I like.
The Kaiser doesnt get my attention due to the fact thats its very bulky. I dont like the sliding Keyboard.
Treo 750 doesnt have WiFi so its not worth it for me.
Polaris is also out of my wish list.
So to sum it all up, what Im looking for with my next handheld is:
1. fast processor at least 400mhz
2. inbuilt GPS and WiFi
3. big ram and rom
4. inbuilt keyboard like the treo
5. VGA screen
6. high megapixel camera
When will HTC answer my prayers???
If only Treo 750 had GPS and WiFi it will be the ultimate handheld for me.
And what will be your next handheld??? Yes you... I know you want an upgrade... I just know it.
touch cruse
vga screen can be a pile of problems with older apps/games and the likes
the treo 750 is slightly bigger then the kaiser. if the 30g make a big difference, i'm not so sure. i ordered my kaiser already, i will get it on monday...
it looks like this is what Im looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=158759
Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?
petervbeck said:
Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?
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In my own personal opinion, OUR ARTEMIS is the best PDA at the moment! And I have decided to keep it until I find the perfect one for me. That is if the Treo 750 will be upgraded with GPS and WiFi. Or if HTC makes another Artemis with a Treo Keyboard (aka Thumb board) then thats a no brainer for me.
there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...
what about the 02 XDA Stellar?
petervbeck said:
there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...
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I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???
nm8 said:
I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???
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i like the external access to my storagecard, this is really convenient, also the keyboard on kaiser - i love it, specially the material it is made of...
Yes, i heard about the video issue - just tried to watch 30 minutes movie with tcpmp - imo no problem. so far i can live with it. The camera is great if you're using it with daylight - autofocus is working very well..but if it is dark, it's again not really usable...
if your comparing artemis and kaiser in weight - the first time you'll be shocked, it's really heavy compared with Artemis (specially the battery)
the only real issue is batterylife as expected....first it was only one day! using gps only with batterypower uses a lot of power
now i flashed another rom and radio rom, it's two days, maximum.
the speed, camera, (ok, speed & camera comes with Polaris) and keyboard of kaiser with the batterylife of artemis - this would be a great device
Hi Pete
Nice to hear youre happy with your brand new toy.
For me, Ill keep the Artemis (this is the best PDA I ever owned so far) for long until something comes out that will really make my heart thump and say GET THAT ONE!
Cheers!!!
Hi ya,
yes i'm happy - but selling my artemis ? NO WAY !
Cheers
I have the chance to sell my P3600 and get a Touch Cruise but P3600 had served me well and I am very happy with it and especially with all the goodies (New Roms from all the Shefs make P3600 very valuable) .....
Dunno what to do.....
I have my hands also the touch Cruise but it feels like a cheap one and not as solid as P3600.... further more the screen of P3600 is a bit larger than Touch Cruise and the camera of Touch Cruise is kinda a bit slow to capture something that moves...... meh.... maybe a rom update will fix all these
I know touch cruise is better than P3600 performance wise but I bought P3600 when it released so I am a bit in touch with it ....
so if you were in my position will you sell your oldy P3600 ???
Hi,
It is your decision but in my opinion Cruise is better then P3600. it has the same processor but mor RAM and better camera. It's mor future then P3600.
Regards
No.
Wait a couple of months more for next generation of devices from HTC. It will be very interesting. P3600 is still very advanced PDA phone, Cruise is uglier, have bad video drivers, bad FM radio, loose buttons, inferior battery.
Very interesting informatios. Do You user this phone?
Regards
banesi said:
No.
Wait a couple of months more for next generation of devices from HTC. It will be very interesting. P3600 is still very advanced PDA phone, Cruise is uglier, have bad video drivers, bad FM radio, loose buttons, inferior battery.
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Do you have any idea what to expect from these new models?
No, I don't work for HTC or something, I just read and look what's going around, after iPhone launch the new revolution has begun, we can expect lot of goodies from HTC and likes, I guess it will be higher resolutions screens, slicker devices, just look at Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, everyone will try to beat it, and remember, it's built in HTC
I have/had the same problem too.
I have the opportunity to have a new phone with a discount because of my actual phone contract... But actually, none of the HTC devices convinced me really.
I was thinking to take a Polaris (which is better than Trinity: AGPS, RAM/ROM, FM)… But nothing really revolutionary.
When I changed my wizard to Trinity, this was a real big jump… And I want to have the same sensation.
Actually I am waiting for the Next HTC devices in September.
Cyrus Kourosh said:
When I changed my wizard to Trinity, this was a real big jump… And I want to have the same sensation.
Actually I am waiting for the Next HTC devices in September.
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Yeap I had also the Wizard and changed it to Trinity and indeed that was a big jump...
I played a bit with the Touch Cruise this weekend but didnt feel any BIG difference ...
Anyway I think I will wait a bit for the next release of HTC ... or maybe go for another model if HTC don't improve their pda ...
btw are you sure that next release of HTC devices will be in September ?
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btw are you sure that next release of HTC devices will be in September ?
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Not sure
But... As I remember:
The 2.5" with keyborads came around August-Septemer (Wizard, TyTN, TyTN-II)
The 2.5" inches without keyboard came around 3 months later (S200, Trinity, Polaris)
Oh my god...is it our next beauty....
http://www.nvidia.com/object/hh_games_demos.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
wolfmenace said:
Yeap I had also the Wizard and changed it to Trinity and indeed that was a big jump...
I played a bit with the Touch Cruise this weekend but didnt feel any BIG difference ...
Anyway I think I will wait a bit for the next release of HTC ... or maybe go for another model if HTC don't improve their pda ...
btw are you sure that next release of HTC devices will be in September ?
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Interesting. I sold my wizard 2 weeks ago and i bought the next day Trinity.
Trinity is a great pda and i am going to use it for 1 year or so. Until the next generation of HTC with same functions, vga screen and hopefully next generation of batteries( i read about 10x boost on lion batteries 2 months ago).
Keep trinity
I have trinity for more than a Year, and the touch cruise is the first device that would make me think twice before buying trinity. But if you have a trinity, just stick with it... Touch cruise is the main reason for not having official WM6 for Trinity, because Trinity with WM6 is almost as good as Touch Cruise. Think for a while what are the extra features that you really need from Touch Cruise:
The extra RAM?
The extra ROM?
The extra resolution on the camera?
And remember you would lose this:
1500mA battery.
The mini SD (higher capacity than micro SD).
So If you have a Trinity keep it as long as it works fine. If you don't have a Trinity maybe you should choose Touch Cruise, because it comes with WM6 and all the HTC apps right out of the box.
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Forgot these extras:
Radio FM
Faster GPS
The mini SD (higher capacity than micro SD). <-probably not higher but cheaper and you will not be able to use the card you have on touch.
I think I will have to wait for the next gen of pdas like the Nvidia one
http://www.nvidia.com/object/hh_games_demos.html
@n0t: Do not forget: AGPS + RAdio FM
@wolfmenace: I do not think that we will see HTC device like this before at least two years...
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And remember you would lose this:
1500mA battery.
The mini SD (higher capacity than micro SD).
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You have got to be kidding about the size of storage cards!!.....Please show me a link to a mini SD card with more than 4Gb storage. MicroSD cards are out in 8Gb/12Gb versions.....
Regards,
theknf
Black Trinity
MARY 3.3.5 SL / 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC
theknf said:
You have got to be kidding about the size of storage cards!!.....Please show me a link to a mini SD card with more than 4Gb storage. MicroSD cards are out in 8Gb/12Gb versions.....
Yes, this is true. I'm using a 8gb microSD in my Trinity with a miniSD adapter. I've tried many cards and this is the most reliable card I've ever used in my Trinity.
I think if you already have a Trinity, there isn't much in switching to a TouchCruise, unless you must have it, then why not. If you are just coming to the game of these mobile devices then do the price/performance comparison. Either one of these devices are near the top of the pack...for now.
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trinity versus polaris
I have had the 2 devices for testing purpose.
The trinity is great
The polaris is greater BUT not enough to sell a trinity and buy a polaris.
The more interesting thing is the agps wich enable the gps to have a lock 3 or 4 times faster than trinity.
On the cons, the buttons and wheel are far more eeeehhh, difficult to say for a non englishman as my english is far from perfect but let says "far more reachable" so you can touch them without wanted it and in your pocket you must be sure that the buttons are locked.
Comparison tests
Are there any perfomance comparison tests online between the two units (with WM6 on trinity)?
The NVIDIA's look promising, but also look at the iPhone.
I have had the Trinity for over a year (after a Wizard,) and thought it was possibly the best phone available then. But after my wife got an iPhone few months ago, I've been feeling a bit primitive. I have not traded my Trinity, only because I actually use the GPS when traveling.
The iPhone is just so much more usable, it's not funny. The screen is great and it doesn't make my eyes blurry after looking at it (like the Trinity,) and the UI is just light years ahead.
If the next iPhone gets a real GPS, there will be no contest.
I need a new smartphone and i think i'm going to get the Touch Pro 2 later today.
What do you guys say, should i get this one or should i wait for a future model from HTC?
What are your overal experiences for so far?
it's a super-great device, and no better are planned AFAIK, when it comes to QWERTY+decent display - there is't much to choose from.
Only the Star and the SuperStar are likely to be any better than the TP2 and there's no news on them other than that they have nvidia chipsets.
No idea what they'll even look like, but those will be some special phones!
According to AT&T there is going to be a Hardware refreash....this means that it will support windows Mobile 7....however this is in september / october when WM 7 comes out.
I am going to wait as I do not want tofind out that there is a newer version of the TP2. Once those months pass and there is no new anywhere then I will upgrade to the TP2, however thats if Toshiba don't release thier 1 GHz WM6.5 phone...
If you need it now, buy it now.
By the end of the year, we'll see new BCM2727 HD and Qualcomm Snapdragon based mobile phones with really big display, 3D acceleration, WinMo 6.5 and maybe even some with keyboards. All these *NOT* from HTC. For HTC models you may have to wait well into 2010.
But what will be the RAM/ROM configuration, hardware build quality, TF3D alternative and price - nobody knows.
As always with technology, there's always something better just around the corner, so you can theoretically postpone indefinitely.
I'm buying TP2 as soon as the shops that sell for a bit more decent price get it in stock locally. While I would have liked a faster CPU and even more RAM, I'm confident that TP2 will fill my needs for quite some time.
vasra said:
If you need it now, buy it now.
By the end of the year, we'll see new BCM2727 HD and Qualcomm Snapdragon based mobile phones with really big display, 3D acceleration, WinMo 6.5 and maybe even some with keyboards. All these *NOT* from HTC. For HTC models you may have to wait well into 2010.
I'm buying TP2 as soon as the shops that sell for a bit more decent price get it in stock locally. While I would have liked a faster CPU and even more RAM, I'm confident that TP2 will fill my needs for quite some time.
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Agree completely! I'm getiing the TP2 as soon as it arrives at tmob usa to take advantage of it's great features. If someday when htc has snapdragon, then I'll upgrade...
Does anyone know if this will be an ATT phone and if so, when?
I second the above comments.
There are better specd devices available and due for release soon.
The only reason I went for Rhodium is
1 It's an HTC which means I can configure and tweak the hell out of it
2 It's a great looking / feeling device
3 It's an HTC which means there's unsurpassed support for it right here in these great forums.
Did I mention it's an HTC device?
Cheers,
Beasty
Well there may be other devices not from HTC that are released soon and have better specs (or already have been released), but i really want a HTC phone and not something else =)
So if i wanna stick with HTC this is the best option, at least untill 2010?
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According to AT&T there is going to be a Hardware refreash....this means that it will support windows Mobile 7....however this is in september / october when WM 7 comes out.
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What exactly do you mean? that the touch pro 2 hardware is getting updated or that a completely new phone is going to be released?
well IMHO there is nothing better out there by HTC at present and i can only highlight Beast reasons as a perfect summary for getting the device. yep there may be higher spec devices due out but will they work as well as the tp2 does? that remains to be seen. right now we have a HTC device that delivers and finally does some justice to touchflo. i too have my eyes on the toshiba tg01 but that will replace my HD and it remains to be seen if that 1ghz processor will actually enhance the device.
Mmm ok, and when exactly will devices be released with windows mobile 7 on them?
Nipje said:
Mmm ok, and when exactly will devices be released with windows mobile 7 on them?
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Nobody knows for sure, but probably in second half of 2010. So, a year or more away.
beast0898 said:
I second the above comments.
There are better specd devices available and due for release soon.
The only reason I went for Rhodium is
1 It's an HTC which means I can configure and tweak the hell out of it
2 It's a great looking / feeling device
3 It's an HTC which means there's unsurpassed support for it right here in these great forums.
Did I mention it's an HTC device?
Cheers,
Beasty
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You forgot to mention it's a HTC device
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
I just bought my touch pro2 last week and have been overjoyed with it, save for a couple of issues regarding battery life. You can check these out in the 'got mine' thread in this subforum.
To better compare these two, head on to youtube and check out the touch pro VS touch pro2 video from pocketnowvideo. to summarise some of the differences -
1. touch pro2 has a bigger screen, 3.6 inches
2. tp2 has a higher resolution, 480 x 800, tp is 480 x 640.
3. improved TouchFLO 3D interface, it's almost perfect now.
there are other differences, so i suggest you check out the youtube video, or head on to www.pocketnow.com and check out their review of the TP2.
StealthNet said:
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
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If $ is not a problem I would go for TP2 definetly.
It´s a fact that technology is making devices everyday more easyly replaceble...
OMG OMG OMG!!! I couldn´t wait!!! I just bought it!!!
Really really anxious!!!!
Good Move! Let us know how U like the new toy...
I have all mentioned devices and Rhodium is really the best!
Rhodium for sure
still own a Raphael but the Rhodium owns his little brother
far more intergrated menu's, landscape touch flo and so on!
even has a own BT app or so to set up bluetooth
i'm very very glad I bought the phone
Just received the tracking number... aaaaaaaarhhh!!!!!!
As per this link the Touch Pro 2 processor is worse than Touch Pro processor.
http://www.pestaola.gr/how-advanced-are-htc-touch-pro2-and-htc-touch-diamond2/
Processor used in Touch Pro2 was released in 2007 90nm (Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz)
Processor used in Touch Pro was released in 2008 65nm (Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7201&c=qualcomm_msm7201
Not sure why an old processor was used in TP2
I still vote for TP2 .
I was about to post "oh that´s so stupid!" but then I realize.... that in fact it is a smart move from HTC, as stated on the site. They´ll prolly make more money.
Well... at least they´ll have mine...
Got it!
It is so sexyeh!!!! But batt life sux... well, let´s see how it will behave on a normal work day.