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Replaceing a screen

Is there a guide to how this device comes apart?
I remember there was one for the xda II but is there one for the blueangel?
Many thanks

Taking it apart is no problem, I've already done that. What I miss is the replacement screen... :?
2 screws on the sides, 4 under the battery. Remove cover, remove the keyboard connector on the side and the screws that hold the PCB. Slide screen up, lift the PCB carefully and dicsonnect the 2 flat cable connectors.
Then remove 4 screws on the screen part, 2 at the top and 2 under holes at the bottom.
Any idea where to find the screen?

screen
you can get a sreen here http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
the cost is $250 delevered anywhere in the world hope this helps i know its not cheap. but this is the only source that i have found.
or http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/xda.htm
offer a full repair service but im unsure for there cost as u need to email for quote.

anyone know where i can get a replacement case? I dropped my sx66 twie already and it is pretty banged up.

kilrah said:
Any idea where to find the screen?
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Which one:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
If you need 60H00018
http://www.parts4pdas.de/cgi/websal...fc}{md5/0ca94eea8a008b08e23c10da58a8679c/md5}
try to call this company
Code:
SRS GmbH
PDA Service Center
Kilianstädter Strasse 48
61137 Schöneck
TEL. 06187 9064-0
FAX. 06187 9064-11
E-Mail: [email][email protected][/email]
Internet: [url]www.srsgmbh.de[/url]

Oops thanks for that, I wasn't aware of the 2 different ones. Haven't finished dismantling mine cause I miss the smaller screwdriver for the 2 top screws of the screen part...
Will try and find one.

You can order the touch screen for $80 ( included shipping)
visit www.goldenbyte.com
Reseller wanted!!!!
or You can email to me at [email protected]

You can buy the screen for $80, www.goldenbyte.com
kilrah said:
Taking it apart is no problem, I've already done that. What I miss is the replacement screen... :?
2 screws on the sides, 4 under the battery. Remove cover, remove the keyboard connector on the side and the screws that hold the PCB. Slide screen up, lift the PCB carefully and dicsonnect the 2 flat cable connectors.
Then remove 4 screws on the screen part, 2 at the top and 2 under holes at the bottom.
Any idea where to find the screen?
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apex laptops are stupidly expensive

any one got the disassemble in pics by any chance. I wanna make sure i d it right without n e more costly mistakes. (the first costly mistake being drunkenly dropping it )
Thanks
Rich

Hmm, finally finished the disassembly (how stupid I am, had forgotten I actually had the suitable screwdriver bit somewhere in my mess)...
I have the Toppoly TD035STEC1 screen. Still trying to find a supplier, the one mentioned above does not really seem of confidence to me... :?
I might take a few pics when I have time :wink:

kilrah said:
Still trying to find a supplier, the one mentioned above does not really seem of confidence to me... :?
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Their webpage says now "not in stock"
I think another one was
http://www.handy21.de

http://www.handy21.de
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Wow, I could get another entire second-hand unit for that price :?

kilrah said:
I might take a few pics when I have time :wink:
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Did you ever get the chance to take those pics Kilrah, If you did I would be very interested to see them, I'm sure they would be of intrest to others too.
Cheers

yep they would, still looking for the cheapest supplier of the acutal LCD as well
n e one found cheaper than $225 http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
which is around £131 with the current conversion rates..

Artemis screen reaplcement (easy?)

Hi all,
I just recently got hold of a XDA Orbit which the previous owner had dropped off a roof (don't ask! ) The screen broke when it hit the floor and it has cracked and just appears white when you turn it on.
I know the system is still running because I can hear the sound effects when turning the volume up/down so I think it's still working ok....
So what I'd like to do is buy a replacement screen off eBay and fit myself. Does anyone know how hard it is to do this? I've got the Artemis-Inside PDF and although it's a great help in seeing how to get inside the thing, it doesn't really show how to replace the screen....
I'm assuming I can just disconnect the ribbon cable and pull the old screen out and then just put the new screen back in??
I hope it's that easy anyway! If anyone knows then it'd be a great help to me,
Thanks for any replies!
Jon.

Sounds difficult according to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312382&highlight=screen

Hmm that's not quite the same problem as I have.... that poster was just trying to replace the "touch" part of the screen whereas I'm going to try and replace the whole LCD + "touch"
This is what I'm hoping to buy: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Genuine-O...5QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10364QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
and by the looks of the picture on the auction and the picture in that other post, the screen is the same as the original Orbit screen....

Artemis screen repair
I've change my broken screen with an ebay screen (lcd+touch) in less 1 hour.
No big difficult...

evaluator said:
Sounds difficult according to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312382&highlight=screen
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This is for 'touch' part only wich is very difficult, because the lcd and touch are the same part... i've try the same (because of price) with no result because the connector was not the same and i can't detach the lcd part of the 'touch' part, so i manage change the all without difficult.

If you need a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298413

SuperMimi said:
I've change my broken screen with an ebay screen (lcd+touch) in less 1 hour.
No big difficult...
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Hi SuperMimi, thanks for your reply, I'm going to take the plunge and order a new screen!
Thanks again!
(If I remember, I will post back and let you all know how it goes.. )

Yep, got it all swapped out with the new screen but the PDF I'd downloaded didn't help in the slightlest!
Maybe the UK model has been slightly re-designed? I don't know but I did take some shots which I'll put into a PDF at some point. Who knows, it might help someone else out.

jonathan488 said:
Yep, got it all swapped out with the new screen but the PDF I'd downloaded didn't help in the slightlest!
Maybe the UK model has been slightly re-designed? I don't know but I did take some shots which I'll put into a PDF at some point. Who knows, it might help someone else out.
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Hi Jonathan,
Can you put those shots into a pdf please and also send me instructions. My screen just cracked, I've ordered a replacement and needed instrustions much appreciated.

Disassemble XDA Orbit
I've posted the instructions I followed on another forum.
http://www.modaco.com/Disassemble-XDA-Orbit-t260167.html
Hope it helps, and it was fairly straight forward to replace the screen unit.
Matt

Strange small plastic part

While dismantle my smartphone (to replace the broken screen), one small part fell out. Unfortunatelly, I'm not able to guess, what is its task and where it is placed... need yr help, dear Users. I'm attaching two photos I've taken. Phone is working OK without it, so I'm really wonder what was the purpose of that part

Maybe stylus holder

hankie666 said:
Maybe stylus holder
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my thought as well.. did you try if the stylus stays in place?

It's the stylus holder, as mentioned above

thanks, next time when I open my smartphone, I'll try to place that part in its place. Actually, everything works fine, no problem with stylus

Hi Lopesjus,
in the wiki Section you`ll find a disassemble/reassemble Manual. Maybe this will be some help finding the right spot/angle whatsoever for this stylus holder. Just in case....
Regards
Jabami

Hardware problem (buttons), please help.

over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.

actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.

godofwap said:
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
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I'll be more than happy

please share your solution with us, I have the exact same problem

ok, no problem, heres what i did.
before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.
ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311463,
now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.
i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.
i found this info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html

i have the same problem with the front hardware keys. They last around 1 year, i had them changed under warranty the first time but now they are failing again.
Thank you! now i just have check for tools and some courage because i fear damaging my good old trinity.

temp9300 said:
i have the same problem with the front hardware keys. They last around 1 year, i had them changed under warranty the first time but now they are failing again.
Thank you! now i just have check for tools and some courage because i fear damaging my good old trinity.
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....hi to all dear friends!!after half an year of very hard work my trinity has the same problem....only central botton working but,the superior two,works if I do an hard reset!very strange!changing a lot of different roms,from w 5 to w 6.5 the problems doesn't solve...!
- I'd like to make your same operation but I'd like to know first if you too have they working on hard reset before trying....
thanks a lot and merry christmas!

yes, even after a hard reset they work for me, its as if it was brand new, bare in mind you may have a different problem so if your gonna try this, TAKE YOUR TIME.

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now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then
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I tried doing this but found no plastic cover above the metallic buttons. Maybe it's because mine went for repair with this problem before, dunno.
I don't think i can mess with the metallic part so i guess i'm stuck with this unless i buy a new keyboard.

it's more of a very very thin laminate, like sticky back plastic than a cover, it should definately be there unless they replaced the PCB with a different model, otherwise the metalic buttons would just fall away. Again, they may have used a different version of the PCB. You can actually buy the PCB and replace it yourself. (here http://cnn.cn/shop/p3600dopod-d810-keypad-p-1825.html )

[SOLVED] Replace Defy Earpiece

Hit post #11 for a walkthrough on replacing the earpiece.

Funny but kinda looking for serious replies as it is quite important

Nokia AAC-0510 seems working. (Chinese) http://www.itfunz.com/thread-84490-1-1.html

Somewhere on this forum is a link to a Russian blogger who pulled one apart and (apparently) swapped out speakers.

post #157

Just to report back i received the k850i earpiece today and successfully replaced it with the original one from the Defy, works perfectly and no modding at all except flattening the terminals slightly, its a very snug fit but is working fine and is much clearer than the original one in terms of call quality. Maybe the mods could sticky this or something incase anyone else has the earpiece problem. Total cost of repair £1.99 for earpiece and about 30minutes of my time !! much better than sending to motorolla for weeks on end in my opinion.
Cheers
Wizard123

That is great info to know! I am more confident in getting a Defy now knowing I can fix it on my own.
Any guide with pictures for us?

well done wizard123
i hope i will never have to do what you did with your speaker but... who knows?
yes a detailed guide with picture and tools-to-use would be a nice idea - really useful for all the people who void the warranty

A quick question...
What's the waterproofing situation like? Is there a membrane between the earpiece and the outside world or is it built into the Defy earpiece?

No problem guys, i hope you never have the issues but i know it did hit alot of people including me and motorolla claim mines was out of warranty being only 3 months old ?! but hey i dont have time to argue or mess about as i need my phone.
I will try to get some pictures up but in the meantime follow these steps it is so so simple :
1. Remove battery & SIM card
2. Remove the 7 screws from around the phone casing and the 2 silver screws underneath the back cover. ( You will need very small torx bits )
3. Separate the two halfs of the casing, ( very stiff and fiddly but dont be affraid to use a little force )
4. Carefully lift off the 2 connectors on the main PCB board and lift it out ( careful not to lose the yellow rubber washers )
5. Use a small pair of pliers or long nosed pliers to gently grib either side of the earpiece and slowly wiggle side to side untill it comes loose and lifts out ( This takes patience as it is very well glued in but does free off )
6. Take your new K850i earpiece and place into the slot with the two springy copper terminals facing up towards the top of the phone ( you dont HAVE to but i did flatten the terminals a little bit so not to bend the PCB board when you place it back in ) having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
7. Return the PCB board back into position and reattach the 2 connectors removed in step 4.
8. Return the casing back into place and install all the screws ( dont forget the 2 SILVER screws FIRST, these hold the PCB board down to the casing and hold the connection solid to the earpiece )
9. Place SIM card and battery back in and boot up your fresh earpieced Defy
Pictures to follow soon hopefully
Cheers
Wizard123
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Have attached some pictures to reference, hope they help

technome said:
A quick question...
What's the waterproofing situation like? Is there a membrane between the earpiece and the outside world or is it built into the Defy earpiece?
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There IS a tiny tiny membrane between the earpiece and the casing and does appear that it would still be waterproof but i have yet to test that and not sure if i will as it is a BIG BIG risk lol ( maybe though hmmm )

Thanks for that.
So the membrane stayed with the handset casing through the procedure?
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having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
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That's interesting. Maybe the failures are caused by poor connections in the first place. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike with some electrically conductive paint would save the day. It's claimed to function as an adhesive.
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wizard123 said:
No problem guys, i hope you never have the issues but i know it did hit alot of people including me and motorolla claim mines was out of warranty being only 3 months old ?! but hey i dont have time to argue or mess about as i need my phone.
I will try to get some pictures up but in the meantime follow these steps it is so so simple :
1. Remove battery & SIM card
2. Remove the 7 screws from around the phone casing and the 2 silver screws underneath the back cover. ( You will need very small torx bits )
3. Separate the two halfs of the casing, ( very stiff and fiddly but dont be affraid to use a little force )
4. Carefully lift off the 2 connectors on the main PCB board and lift it out ( careful not to lose the yellow rubber washers )
5. Use a small pair of pliers or long nosed pliers to gently grib either side of the earpiece and slowly wiggle side to side untill it comes loose and lifts out ( This takes patience as it is very well glued in but does free off )
6. Take your new K850i earpiece and place into the slot with the two springy copper terminals facing up towards the top of the phone ( you dont HAVE to but i did flatten the terminals a little bit so not to bend the PCB board when you place it back in ) having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
7. Return the PCB board back into position and reattach the 2 connectors removed in step 4.
8. Return the casing back into place and install all the screws ( dont forget the 2 SILVER screws FIRST, these hold the PCB board down to the casing and hold the connection solid to the earpiece )
9. Place SIM card and battery back in and boot up your fresh earpieced Defy
Pictures to follow soon hopefully
Cheers
Wizard123
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Great guide there - may well help quite a few people

technome said:
Thanks for that.
So the membrane stayed with the handset casing through the procedure?
That's interesting. Maybe the failures are caused by poor connections in the first place. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike with some electrically conductive paint would save the day. It's claimed to function as an adhesive.
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Yes only the earpiece came away from the casing using the method i applied but again i can't swear by the membrane as it could possibly be different with other variants of the phone ( although i doubt it ).
And plus for me atleast, i'd rather have a working phone than a waterproof phone ( just me though )
I am nearly certain its an actual defect with the earpieces because if you blow the earpiece with some canned air it will function for 5-10 seconds before going off again.
I do think there may be a problem with both the connections and earpieces though as the way the oem connections are designed in the Defy for the earpiece contacts are piss poor, excuse my french lol.

Well, I'm sending my Defy in for repair today, after my earpiece started playing-up intermittently over the weekend. I tried to insist on a replacement but Motorola's support team were adamant that a repair is my only option under the terms of my warranty. Ah, well. I've got a spare phone.
That said, I will likely "paint" the earpiece connections upon its return and it's good to know that the K850i part works. I may buy a couple as a precaution.

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Well, I'm sending my Defy in for repair today, after my earpiece started playing-up intermittently over the weekend. I tried to insist on a replacement but Motorola's support team were adamant that a repair is my only option under the terms of my warranty. Ah, well. I've got a spare phone.
That said, I will likely "paint" the earpiece connections upon its return and it's good to know that the K850i part works. I may buy a couple as a precaution.
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That sucks man sorry to hear that, it seems to be not if it will happen but when it will happen with these earpieces, yep motorola sucks for customer support to be fair. I hope your phone comes back ok though, alot of people have had it repair only for it to fail again a few weeks later.

Can I just double check which seller you got yours from as I've had a look on ebay & the three that are for sale look different styles - unless the pics are not of actual items?
Cheers

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Can I just double check which seller you got yours from as I've had a look on ebay & the three that are for sale look different styles - unless the pics are not of actual items?
Cheers
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The actual one i used is this one :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300370841729&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
There is an actual motorola one that has the same terminals as the original but ( my opinion i would not trust another earpiece from them ) :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220640434368&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I wouldnt worry too much if they look slightly different aslong as they are for the k850i as it will most likely be because they are from different manufacturers
Hope that helps

That's great thanks very much
Might just order one to keep as you never know when it'll stop working.

I had my earpiece replaced by the company, you should really send it to motorola and don't mess around with the device.