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HELP ME!! Stylus end is stuck!

:? Boy do I feel dumb.
I've been using a 3-1 stylus (from Proporta) on my M2K and today the plastic "tip" got stuck in the unit's slot! Peering down the slot using a desk-lamp I can see the tip and it's off-centre to the actual axis of the hole. It looks like the hole for the stylus is NOT a tube - but is instead merely an opening into the unit. (thinking about it - I'd noticed that the stylus tip was "awkward" to fit into the slot a couple of times - obviously it had been getting caught in the body-work).
Stupidly I've further compounded my troubles by attempting to fineagle (technical term.. ) the tip out by using a biro refill - and the tip of the biro refill got stuck in the stylus tip!!! AAARGH! :shock:
Looks like I'll need to dismantle the entire bloody unit to get this thing out - so... how do I do it, what do I need, and where can I obtain the tools??
DOH!!!!

Damm, your having one of those day's
Just as a side note.
Don’t buy or use 3 in 1 stylus, they will break the clamp in the device holding the stylus in place so the stylus gets so loose that it will slide out and in without any resistance

Check your warranty before taking your unit apart!
You'll need a T6x60 and maybe a T7x60 drive. Then search for a thread on this forum that will guide you through the dismantling process.
good luck!

nomadman said:
Check your warranty before taking your unit apart!
You'll need a T6x60 and maybe a T7x60 drive. Then search for a thread on this forum that will guide you through the dismantling process.
good luck!
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somehow I doubt Orange will be terribly impressed with what's hapened!!!
Anyone know how much it would cost to have the unit dismantled by a repair workshop (and thus maintain the warranty)? And is there such a place in central London?

Why not try the finest tad (more technical phraseology) of super glue on the end of your 3 in 1, push in hole, wait 1 minute and pull out. It might just work and surely would have done without that biro bit. Got to be worth a try - but be frugal with the glue !
By the way, I've used a 3 in 1 form Proporta for 3 months now and the old stylus fits and is retained just the same as its always has done (just tried it).

Stylus.
Hmmm I dont remember where i bought mine, but this is the second time i need to get the 9090 to service.
There is no resistense at all, it just slide in and out by it self
They are going right to the trashbin now.
Do you have a link to where you got yours??
Bottom stylus is the original.
Much more soft in the area where the clamp goes in

Mine came from here;
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=933&t_mode=des
But having looked at your photograph, and had a good look at my stylii, the 'shoulder' is different on my original stylus and that from Proporta - just as your picky shows. Still haven't had a problem though - YET.

Don't like it that you have to take of the tip to use the pen as reset tool
The ones i got are working very good, but I just cant use them any more since they destroy the clamp.
Here's one more pic.

I don't. I just use the tip of the stylus for re-set.

If you pull out the stylus and look into the hole in the BA, does it look like white plastic clamps in your BA.
I can se 2 white plastic clamps in mine.

Yes - just the same !

Since we both have plastic clamps, my stylus clamp shoulders must be the reason for the defect in the BA.
Well then I can only say to anybody reading this thread, don't buy 3 in 1 stylus that look like the ones in the pictures :!: :!:

TIP: Use a software to reset the PPC. I use CLaunch on normal reset. During lockups, I have to use the stylus. But that's only 1out of 10 resets.
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html

nomadman - sir, sorry this is out of the topic.... i just noticed your ROM version... where did you get the ROM update for our XDA IIs?
Thanks!

YAY! Fixed it last night.
1 T6 driver and 1 small flat bladed screwdriver were all the tools necessary.
Just removed the 2 silver screws, and 3 of the black ones (the "Void" sticker was untouched) and the rear cover was loose enough to allow the very flat blade of the screwdriver in just far enough to dislodge the "item" and it just dropped out.
reassembly was easy and the only shock I got was when I turned the unit back on the emergency battery was nearly dead!! I'd only had the main battery off the unit for 5 minutes!!!! Not terribly impressed by that I have to say.

Disassembling xdaiii (edit)

Does anyone have DIY instructions or a link to instructions for taking apart an xdaII? I searched the forum and found a couple of threads, but they only provided pictures and not step by steps. Any help would be much appreciated.
edit: I actually need the DIY for xdaIII (with sliding kb) sorry for the mistake

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Does anyone have DIY instructions or a link to instructions for taking apart an xdaII? I searched the forum and found a couple of threads, but they only provided pictures and not step by steps. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Does anyone have DIY instructions or a link to instructions for taking apart an xdaII? I searched the forum and found a couple of threads, but they only provided pictures and not step by steps. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Here ya go

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Here ya go [/quote]
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OMG! I made a typo on the request. I actually need the DIY removal for the XDAIII (with the sliding keyboard)
Big Thanks to steelorange.. that's an awesome file... would you happen to have the one for the XDAIII

for the XDA III
[email protected] said:
Big Thanks to steelorange.. that's an awesome file... would you happen to have the one for the XDAIII
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Hehehehe just managed to dig that up on the FTP.
I'm sorry, I don't know where to get the instructions for disassembly for the "XDA III".
Maybe it hasn't leaked out yet. I guess let's start waiting. :wink:
Goodluck to you.

Hey guyz,
I'ver personally taken my PDA2k apart to tighten the keyboard.
It was..er...scary but i followed the following sites:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13730&highlight=pda2k+keyboard+slider
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14988
The drawback is, you might have a hard time getting the void sticker out..mine was half torn
These are the guidelines for me...but do it at your own risk...
hte hard part is to watch out for the volume slider when you fix the rear casing back...the small little plastic slider is very fragile and could break with minimal force..
Good luck..cheers!

XDA IIs Service manual
Hi steelorange,
can you please re-post the file. The link posted only goes to http://ftp/.
thanks

XDA IIs Service manual
Hi steelorange,
can you please re-post the file. The link posted only goes to http://ftp/.
thanks

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marcom007 said:
Hi steelorange,
can you please re-post the file. The link posted only goes to http://ftp/.
thanks
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Click here to download the attatched file. Make sure you login first since you won't be able to see the attatched ZIP file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=111191#111191
Oh btw, this is the service manual for the XDA II and not for the IIs

I've taken my Harrier's ( Same as XDAiii) apart and it's not too bad. You have to remove the two bottom screws, the one under the void sticker(still trying to find a place to buy replacement stickers) and the two screws on the sides. Make sure you take your sd card or filler card out the sd slot then all you have to do is open from the bottom nice and slow. If you want to remove the mainboard you will need to take the small screws out of the top and right side of the mainboard (looking directly at the board) make sure you take the backup battery loose. You can either unplug the battery from the mainboard(which will result in a hard reset) or take pull the battery up from the case(it's held on with double stick tape). Then remove the microphone along witht eh rubber boot it's in from the case. Also loosen the flex wire from the front case to the mainboard. Take loose the motor from case and as you pull the mainboard from the case look on the other side of the board and take loose the two flex wire connectors from the mainboard. Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Having any sort of basic instructions helps.
Can I ask why you took yours appart? :?:

I have a few of the cdma version of the Blueangle/XDAiii and I wanted to see if the verizon version that I have is the same as the Sprint and Audiovox versions. So I took three of them apart and compared everything ic by ic. Plus it gave me a chance to see how everything was put together inside. I take just about everything I have apart, two hours after I recieved my Ipaq 5555 I had it in pieces on my work bench.

that_kid said:
I've taken my Harrier's ( Same as XDAiii) apart and it's not too bad. You have to remove the two bottom screws, the one under the void sticker(still trying to find a place to buy replacement stickers) and the two screws on the sides. Make sure you take your sd card or filler card out the sd slot then all you have to do is open from the bottom nice and slow. If you want to remove the mainboard you will need to take the small screws out of the top and right side of the mainboard (looking directly at the board) make sure you take the backup battery loose. You can either unplug the battery from the mainboard(which will result in a hard reset) or take pull the battery up from the case(it's held on with double stick tape). Then remove the microphone along witht eh rubber boot it's in from the case. Also loosen the flex wire from the front case to the mainboard. Take loose the motor from case and as you pull the mainboard from the case look on the other side of the board and take loose the two flex wire connectors from the mainboard. Hope this helps.
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Can you please detail on how you unlock the hooks on the sd card?plsss I cant open mine because of those hooks....pls reply asap

Xda IIs Stylus holder is LOOSE after USE and ABUSE!

Hi guys, just wondering if any users out there are having the same problems as me. ive had my Blue Angel now for a good 6 months and im very happy with it appart from it doesnt ring which is very very annoying :twisted: anyone know a fix for this?
But main reason for this post is; has anyone got the same problem that the holder for the stylus has become used and now doesnt hold the stylus in place anymore? i remember there being a click when pushing the stylus in. but now it just falls out when i tip the PDA upside down.
Anyone whos opened up a BA can you give any details on how the holder works? can it be modded so that it grips the stylus again? im one for opening up electrinics and playing with them but since i use this for alot of my work i cant risk it.
many thanks for any replies.
DJUPLIFT

I have the same issues. I tried to take mine apart but could not seem to separate the back side of the case. I removed 3 screws from behind the battery, and one from either side of the device. I too would like any input.

It totally blows... cos i always end up taking the phone out of my pocket and sometimes i dont hear the stylus drop. ive already lost two like this... it might end up being more expensive to just keep buying stylus than to open the BA and screw it up... All in all my ones been opened already :shock:
i dropped it on concrete and somehow the touchscreen stopped working although the screen was intact. O2 replaced it with a brand new one for diddly sqwat!! FANTASTIC!!!
i might just take it appart next weekend and have a little look inside see if there is a way to access this comparment and maybe doing a little DIY style modding!
if i come up with any conclusions ill post them with some pics of course!
DJUPLIFT

a friend of mine took his apart and there does not appear to be a way to tighten the stylus. He said it was just a small plastic protusion that held it in place. Once it wears, you are out of luck. Have not seen this myself, but thats what he tells me..
Regards
chris

that's correct, it's just a plastic clip protruding to grab the gap on the stylus. if it's broken, you may just have to put a tape or sticker around the stylus to make it tighter.
there are 4 screws (one under the void sticker) where the battery goes. i just took mine apart to tighten slider. it's back to sliding smoothly & tight, however, there's still a noticeable gap (between the screen plate & keyboard plate).
anyone knows how to eliminate this gap (about 2mm)?

Try this solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15120&highlight=loose+stylus
Cheers
Frankman

I use 1 layer of tape around the stylus. spanning the groove in the stylus. This seems to make it a good bit tighter, but does not fix the problem entirely. Hope that helps..
Regards
Chris

i dont like the idea of having tape on my stylus... looks well tacky going into a metting with clients!!
so i took some black insulation tape and made small squares with an art blade and stuck them to the inner edge of the holder... now it sits there nice and tight like a school girl
S O R T E D!!!!
cheers for the help guys/gals.... if any....

An idiot friend of mine put a blade of grass in the stylus holder and now it wont come out. How do I fish it out? The good thing is, my stylus doesn't slide out so easily anymore.

I have also encountered this problem(i got my BA 6 months till now), however it is not that loose as what ur described. at lease it never drop out when i was outside. (after reading this i become worry about it)
I used to own a IPAQ 5550, when i got my BA, i thought the quality of the stylus is better than ipaq's plastic stylus(should have some heavy stuff insde..), i like the BA's metalic stylus.
Now i found that the IPAQ plastic stylus + the spring-like system inside the whole is much better...i want to have one BA + the metalic stylus + the spring-like system to hold the stylus....
if some day i am that unlucky to lost my BA's stylus i will try to use the 3-in-one PDA pen... once it lost one, i may lost another... i wont use normal stylus if it happened.

DJUPLIFT wrote[/quote]
i dont like the idea of having tape on my stylus... looks well tacky going into a metting with clients!!
You have to use that "invisable" tape and only the keyboard and buttons if its a Director or above! :lol:
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Loose stylus - Stylus falls out
This has worked for me. It's been 5 months, and it still works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Reassemble your BA.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2

Yet again we're having to come up with dodgy (although well thought out) solutions to HTC's shoddy design flaws. My BA is about 3 - 4 months old and its up to this already. I keep finding my stylus on the floor.
Thing is, all these solutions void the warranty and I have to take mine back soon (See the Xray thread ) and am hoping for a replacement on insurance.
The P800 and XDA2 had this problem as well, but surprisingly I have NEVER lost a single stylus in my life! I always just happen to find them again. One time I found my P800 stylus 2 days later in the street between my college and my flat :S

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N2O2 said:
This has worked for me. It's been 5 months, and it still works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Reassemble your BA.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2
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Great idea! It's perfect!
THANK YOU N2O2

N2O2
You just made the wiki hall of fame
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Sty_stopper

Any Kentucky Fried Chícken fans out there?
After losing 5 styli - not only because they were loose in the holder (one went on the motorcycle after I missed the holder hole and then let it go) I came up with this junky solution.
The KFC corn cob holders are a good diameter (had to add a thin layer of tape) and just long enough to be modifiable to add a knureld part at upper end. At at least one of their restaurants I found them outside of the front counter and was able to obtain a few cheap spare emergency styli
Oh well.

:lol: :lol: HAHAHAHAHA You are grade man .....

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

Tilting Mechanical Problem on TP2 ?

Hello Guys,
Just brought mine yesterday. I have this clicking sound when i tilt back the display flat in order to slide back into the phone body...Is this a mechanical problem or just normal.....Hoping to find a peace of mind...
Feihong

You have found your peace (got the same click as well).
Cheers, Dela

Yeah, it's supposed to do it! I think it's an improvement over the Kaiser, as you won't try to slide it in unless you hear the click to confirm it's shut properly, so it's less likely to get damaged.

I get the same click, it sounds a bit destructive at first and had me worried!
On a similar theme, has anyone noticed the ribbon cable connecting the screen to the body is awfull exposed and vulnerable? It's safely hidden away on the Kaiser.

The ribbon cable is hidden under the black belt (movement restrictor) that you see when looking from behind of the screen

joining in the confirmation fun here. I click as well but i prefer that click

Tilt a little loose
Hello,
speaking of tilting I have another question. When the screen is tilted, it's a little "loose", it moves forward and backward for 2,3 millimeters .... only mine?
Thanks
(sorry for my bad english ...)
Xra

look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
it appears to be normal

Thanks ... I didn't know what wobbly mean ....

[Q] Touch Pro 2 stuck in Landscape

Hello,
I dropped my Touch Pro 2 in fresh water. No insurance of course and no more discount from T-mobile to buy a new phone.
Following video instructions on youtube I disassembled it, I believe without breaking anything.
The LCD screen was gone (water inside), and I bought a new one in eBay.
Once I received it I reassambled the phone. Evertyhting seems to work fine but... the screen is stuck in landscape!
Of course I did soft and hard reset, tried to play / disable the G-sensor and orientation sensor, nothing: I believe it has to do with some switch that recognize when the keyboard is slide open, but I have no idea what sensor is it, I can't find any mechanism that resemble a micro switch or a mini magnet related to the opening / closing of the keyboard. Instead I find a microswitch that senses when the pen is inside, but nothing about the screen.
Any suggestion, does anybody here have any hardware knowledge on this topic? I tried to use software like Gyrator 2 which put a patch on the problem, but I would rather fix the hardware first: perhaps I did not mount something correctly, where is this sensor, is it magnetic or microswitch, I can't see anything even with lenses on.
thank you all in advance
....

I have exactly same problem, my TP2 is stuck in landscape mode. I bought TP2 in the US. My housing was broken so I bought a new one in europe the oem one with lcd screen and digitizer... Could this make the problem?
I am pretty sad, I dont want to buy a new phone :S

The sensor must be in the screen-half of the phone underneath where the red "end call" button is. This is demonstrated if a healthy phone is slid open, and then you pass a small magnet underneath the screen in that area, screen will flip between portrait and landscape.

Which yes I did the same thing today and it was your post randell that helped me. All you need to do is go to walmart purchase the smallest but most powerful smallest magnet you can find. cut you a piece of it, superglue it to the bottom right corner. worked like a charm.
or if you wanted to open your case back up like i did you can superglue it on the inside lol. If you look at your old case you will find your old magnet you can use. simple easy just thought id let you know k bye ta ta.

sabwjawdjw said:
which yes i did the same thing today and it was your post randell that helped me. All you need to do is go to walmart purchase the smallest but most powerful smallest magnet you can find. Cut you a piece of it, superglue it to the bottom right corner. Worked like a charm.
Or if you wanted to open your case back up like i did you can superglue it on the inside lol. If you look at your old case you will find your old magnet you can use. Simple easy just thought id let you know k bye ta ta.
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thank you verrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
thank youuuuuuuuu

I was on here by chance and I had the same issue when I replaced my digitizer on my TP2 a year ago. I could never figure it out so I bit bullet and brought a new phone. I will try this when I get home and if it works be great because i loved that phone soo much when I had it thanks guys!!