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PDA2k Loose Stylus

Folks:
My PDA2k stylus has become too loose and I am starting to drop it everywhere: my pockets, my car, etc. In all likelihood, if I don't find a solution pronto, I'll be using my fingers because of a lost stylus.
Is anyone out there having this problem? How do you deal with it?
Thanks in advance.
Fernando

my XDA2s is getting worse, its 2 months old and gets used, give it another month and i be needing to get a big big box of replacement stylus's

Stylus problem? no problem.
Hey guys!
I'd just leave the regular stylus in my MDAIII and I went and got these check it out : http://www.truetip.com
They have all kind of stylus stuff that may can work out for you. I bought a few :wink: of each and I hardly every use the one in my unit. I hope this helps, Take care fellas! :wink:

I've just encountered this problem and went the "Classy" way with my solution.
Magic tape wraped twice around the top of the stylus. Fingers crossed I'll have no more retracing my steps fun looking for a missing stylus. :lol:

hmmmn just put (stick) small neoprene inside the hole (opening)....
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thanks,
jojo

Or just buy some more styluses i bought 3 from here and recieved the item next day. I'm also going to buy an xda2s handsfree from him as i have lost that 2.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZairportinfo

expansys.com has a lot of different kinds of stylus for PDA2K or similar. there are regular and with pen included.
expansys has offices in diferents countries. check yours.
Tano

Leave it in for service, it's the only way that HTC will understand that they need to go up some notches on the Hardware quality.
There is no way I'm taping anything on a 1.000,-$ unit
Mine is headding for service once more in the near future.

tano said:
expansys.com has a lot of different kinds of stylus for PDA2K or similar. there are regular and with pen included.
expansys has offices in diferents countries. check yours.
Tano
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these ones are original styluses
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZairportinfo

There is no way I'm taping anything on a 1.000,-$ unit
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Good point. This thing cost more than my old car. Just whilt we're on the topic of hardware that was clearly not tested thoroughly before it as marketed, does anyone else's sliding mechanism scratch the keyboard?

yep on the left hand side. and i hardly ever use the keyboard so its not down to wear and tear.
to be honest the xda2s does feel cheap when its on your hand.

scratch on the left side of keyboard... hardly used the keyboard though...
and a gap between the lcd and battery slider on the right hand side...

I fixed mine with a single layer of tape around the top of the stylus. Now just enough grip to hold on.
rich

Mine went back to the O2 service centre on Sunday! The slider was never right from the day I got it (this one was my second) and I lost a stylus the other day. The sliding keyboard was so far away from the chassis I could see daylight through it!
I also had the "wear" makes on BOTH sides of the keyboard and the Sales assistant said that they ALWAYS get those on every unit they get back, which I'm told is quite a few!
I'm waiting on a response from them as I suspect as before, they will just give me a brand new one. Anyway, I'm thinking of Ebaying the XDAIIs and getting myself an Orange c550/Qtek 8200 (HTC Robbie) Smartphone as I'm not impressed with the build quality compared to the XDAII/IIi!
We'll see!
Dom

Loose stylus - Stylus falls out
I dropped my BA 5 meters onto a concrete floor. It landed on the corner and bent the corner in. I just picked it up and it still worked. I use it in a industrial enviroment so it looks ugly, but always works. My old Ipaqs couldn't handle a one meter fall onto carpet without cracking the screen.
Oh yeah! Here's the fix to the original problem on this thread. It's really a easy fix. It's been 5 months since I lost a stylus.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-If your corner is bent straighten it now(see above)
-Reassemble BA
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade!
Good Luck,
N2O2

The Low-Tech Way
I crammed a little wad of paper into the area between the case and the little plastic spring. Works like a charm!

Xda IIs Stylus holder is LOOSE after USE and ABUSE!

Hi guys, just wondering if any users out there are having the same problems as me. ive had my Blue Angel now for a good 6 months and im very happy with it appart from it doesnt ring which is very very annoying :twisted: anyone know a fix for this?
But main reason for this post is; has anyone got the same problem that the holder for the stylus has become used and now doesnt hold the stylus in place anymore? i remember there being a click when pushing the stylus in. but now it just falls out when i tip the PDA upside down.
Anyone whos opened up a BA can you give any details on how the holder works? can it be modded so that it grips the stylus again? im one for opening up electrinics and playing with them but since i use this for alot of my work i cant risk it.
many thanks for any replies.
DJUPLIFT

I have the same issues. I tried to take mine apart but could not seem to separate the back side of the case. I removed 3 screws from behind the battery, and one from either side of the device. I too would like any input.

It totally blows... cos i always end up taking the phone out of my pocket and sometimes i dont hear the stylus drop. ive already lost two like this... it might end up being more expensive to just keep buying stylus than to open the BA and screw it up... All in all my ones been opened already :shock:
i dropped it on concrete and somehow the touchscreen stopped working although the screen was intact. O2 replaced it with a brand new one for diddly sqwat!! FANTASTIC!!!
i might just take it appart next weekend and have a little look inside see if there is a way to access this comparment and maybe doing a little DIY style modding!
if i come up with any conclusions ill post them with some pics of course!
DJUPLIFT

a friend of mine took his apart and there does not appear to be a way to tighten the stylus. He said it was just a small plastic protusion that held it in place. Once it wears, you are out of luck. Have not seen this myself, but thats what he tells me..
Regards
chris

that's correct, it's just a plastic clip protruding to grab the gap on the stylus. if it's broken, you may just have to put a tape or sticker around the stylus to make it tighter.
there are 4 screws (one under the void sticker) where the battery goes. i just took mine apart to tighten slider. it's back to sliding smoothly & tight, however, there's still a noticeable gap (between the screen plate & keyboard plate).
anyone knows how to eliminate this gap (about 2mm)?

Try this solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15120&highlight=loose+stylus
Cheers
Frankman

I use 1 layer of tape around the stylus. spanning the groove in the stylus. This seems to make it a good bit tighter, but does not fix the problem entirely. Hope that helps..
Regards
Chris

i dont like the idea of having tape on my stylus... looks well tacky going into a metting with clients!!
so i took some black insulation tape and made small squares with an art blade and stuck them to the inner edge of the holder... now it sits there nice and tight like a school girl
S O R T E D!!!!
cheers for the help guys/gals.... if any....

An idiot friend of mine put a blade of grass in the stylus holder and now it wont come out. How do I fish it out? The good thing is, my stylus doesn't slide out so easily anymore.

I have also encountered this problem(i got my BA 6 months till now), however it is not that loose as what ur described. at lease it never drop out when i was outside. (after reading this i become worry about it)
I used to own a IPAQ 5550, when i got my BA, i thought the quality of the stylus is better than ipaq's plastic stylus(should have some heavy stuff insde..), i like the BA's metalic stylus.
Now i found that the IPAQ plastic stylus + the spring-like system inside the whole is much better...i want to have one BA + the metalic stylus + the spring-like system to hold the stylus....
if some day i am that unlucky to lost my BA's stylus i will try to use the 3-in-one PDA pen... once it lost one, i may lost another... i wont use normal stylus if it happened.

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i dont like the idea of having tape on my stylus... looks well tacky going into a metting with clients!!
You have to use that "invisable" tape and only the keyboard and buttons if its a Director or above! :lol:
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Loose stylus - Stylus falls out
This has worked for me. It's been 5 months, and it still works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Reassemble your BA.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2

Yet again we're having to come up with dodgy (although well thought out) solutions to HTC's shoddy design flaws. My BA is about 3 - 4 months old and its up to this already. I keep finding my stylus on the floor.
Thing is, all these solutions void the warranty and I have to take mine back soon (See the Xray thread ) and am hoping for a replacement on insurance.
The P800 and XDA2 had this problem as well, but surprisingly I have NEVER lost a single stylus in my life! I always just happen to find them again. One time I found my P800 stylus 2 days later in the street between my college and my flat :S

Re: Loose stylus - Stylus falls out
N2O2 said:
This has worked for me. It's been 5 months, and it still works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Reassemble your BA.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2
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Great idea! It's perfect!
THANK YOU N2O2

N2O2
You just made the wiki hall of fame
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Sty_stopper

Any Kentucky Fried Chícken fans out there?
After losing 5 styli - not only because they were loose in the holder (one went on the motorcycle after I missed the holder hole and then let it go) I came up with this junky solution.
The KFC corn cob holders are a good diameter (had to add a thin layer of tape) and just long enough to be modifiable to add a knureld part at upper end. At at least one of their restaurants I found them outside of the front counter and was able to obtain a few cheap spare emergency styli
Oh well.

:lol: :lol: HAHAHAHAHA You are grade man .....

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

Lost another one from the new phone in the few hours since I posted the KFC thing.
Uuuups - time to go out for a buckt of the Colonels finest.

SX66 Broken Touch Screen

Alright... so the other day i take my sx66 out of my pocket, only to see the touch screen cracked... the phone still works, most of the time, and you can still use like half of the screen. So i need to know, how hard is it to actually change out touch screens. Ive heard it is difficult, and would really like to know how to do it.
Thanks
-Greg

bigbluemnm said:
Alright... so the other day i take my sx66 out of my pocket, only to see the touch screen cracked... the phone still works, most of the time, and you can still use like half of the screen. So i need to know, how hard is it to actually change out touch screens. Ive heard it is difficult, and would really like to know how to do it.
Thanks
-Greg
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We can repair the system for you. We do not have DIY kits for the TS repair though.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...epairs-Full+Service+Repairs~item~XDA-TS03.htm

wow, wayyyy to expensive... you can almost buy another unit for that... i mean, i can buy the touch screen for ~$40, and do it myself. i heard it requires some soldering, and what else?

bigbluemnm said:
wow, wayyyy to expensive... you can almost buy another unit for that... i mean, i can buy the touch screen for ~$40, and do it myself. i heard it requires some soldering, and what else?
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You can do it yourself. We've had people do it before. Some are successful, most end up causing more damage and have to ship it in anyway.
Here are some tips:
First, double-check the new TS. There are few different mfg of the TS. Some that we evaluated have fibers & dirt between the layers of the TS.
Be very careful with the flex cable coming off of the LCD. It runs through the slide mechanism and tears easily. You'll need to remove the LCM assembly from the top cover/slide assembly.
Use a soldering iron to desolder the TS cable from the back of the flex cable of the LCD. Use a xacto knife or something similiar to seperate the TS from the frame of the LCD. Usually the TS will shatter during this process. If you push the blade in too far, you'll scratch the top of the LCD which cannot be repaired. If you get the glue from the seal of the TS onto the LCD, you'll need to use 99.9% alcohol to clean the top of the LCD using a microfibre cloth. Having tweezers handy helps.
When you go to install the TS, start at the top and then slowly lower it onto the frame of the LCD. Do not push it all the way down. You'll probably have several bits of dust and debris that has been attracted to the TS. You'll need to have moisture free air to gently blow out the dust before pressing down and sealing the TS. We actually use grade 5 nitrogen to blow out the area.
When resoldering the cable do not apply too much heat since the mylar of the cable melts easily.
Hopefully with these tips and others on the board, you'll be successful.

thet doesnt sound hard at all. last night i already took it all apart, and didnt mess up anything. so hopefully i can get a new ts and get it back on without damaging anything. thanks so much for the info.

I got something really weird..
I have opened the unit and checked the configuration..
The old TS versus the new TS is totaly opposite?
Old 1 2 3 4
New 4 3 2 1
Pin configuration..
I manage to hook it up but it won't get pass the alignment screen.. is there a way to re-teach it?
Please help..

nique said:
I got something really weird..
I have opened the unit and checked the configuration..
The old TS versus the new TS is totaly opposite?
Old 1 2 3 4
New 4 3 2 1
Pin configuration..
I manage to hook it up but it won't get pass the alignment screen.. is there a way to re-teach it?
Please help..
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If it will not align, then the pins are hooked up out of order or the TS is defective.

The interesting thing, there are different touchscreens, have different pinouts. The most important thing (from my experience) is to connect pairs properly. So, you have on touchscreen top, bottom (vertical pair), left and right (horizontal pair). If you'll look at touchscreen, you'll see how your cable is wired to glass/film. At first, you definitely need to put pairs properly. vertical to vertical (on board) and horizontal to horizontal. If you'll mix up wires - you'll fail calibration procedure.
By the way: if you'll mix up top and bottom or left and right - touchscreen will work and pass calibration. Of course, calibration values in registry will be hmm... other, than usual, but touchscreen will work.
If you have multimeter, you can easily check your tuuchscreen. Horizontal pair should be 250..400 Ohm, vertical - 300..800 Ohm. If your touchscreen is not tapped, there should be infinity (not connected) resistance between pairs.

Where can you buy replacement touchscreens or housings?

ebay. search for all the different models and use worlds like broke, dead, fix repair, etc. And if you buy the right touch screen then you don't need to do any soldering. It's a really simple job. The hardest part is the disasembly, but just take your time and for god sakes tape all your screws to a white peice of paper and label them :roll: i can't tell you how many integral screws i've lost doing stuff like this.

alright, so im getting ready to buy a new TS... the SN of my phone is... HT509D615597. so what TS would i need?
this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...10024651851&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
or this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ryProximity&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
Thanks!!

Stylus falling out

I'm OK with taking things apart and putting them back together. Are there screen shots of someone taking the Blue Angel apart and fixing the stylus clip?
Please post
or even a video clip?

DIY Blueangle fix
Hi,
I had been using HTC BlueAngle for almost 2 years and very happy with it.
When I first got it, I dropped it the next day. The stylus holding clip was broken off. At first I tried to put tapes around the stylus to hold it in place.
It didn't work out at the end and I opened it up and put a piece of foam in the stylus tube to add fiction and avoid it fall out. I worked nicely.
I still love my BA even I am using HTC Universal most of the time.
Cheers

I have the same problem. Nice tip, thanks, I'll consider it too.

u dont have to do all that, the main reason it becomes loose is the bit of plastic that is attached to the frame gets weak... just open the back with the specialist screwdrivers which can be bought off ebay for nomore than £5 and either superglue it back into the correct place or just rest something like paper to make the plastic bit stick out a bit more so that the stylus gets a tighter fit....

go for the quick fix...just stick a 3mm width masking tape on the top part of the stylus and it is good to go. adjust the width of the tape according to how tight you want your stylus to be in place. HTH

Replacing screen on Touch Pro 2

Coucou !
I've already dismantled my TP2 without any major problem.
I took the screen apart from the bezel, but they stuck together with a foam adhesive, which I don't know where to find it.
I call my local major electronic reseller, but he doesn't have any and doesn't know where to find such...
Can you help me, as my phone relies into pieces on my desk, not usable!
I hope someone has the answer.
And sorry if my english is wrong, I'm better in French !

Hi,
I had the same problem, eventually used a product called (in the UK) Evostick Serious Glue which bonds to glass and sets in 3 mins, I then assembeled it and clamped the whole thing together with small rubber faced clamps until set.
Still holding 6 months later although I wouldn't like to try taking it apart again.

Coucou !
As I can see, this foamy adhesive has an non-negligeable thickness, about .2 to .4 millimeter... Is it about the same with this glue?
And I thought about Neoprene glue (correct word?). What do you think of?
And first of all, thank you for your answer and your advice!

I am going to replace the screen of my hd2 and I've read a lot about it. Some people advice double sided tape with 3 millimeter wide. Or you take 2 or 4 millimeter but you get my point
Maybe you could try to find that instead.

Coucou !
Just double-side tape? No foamy stuff ? OK, I'll wait for your answer and then try, as my phone is still in pieces on my desk...

I tried double sided tape to begin with but it wasn't strong enough, and was very difficult to cut to the small strips required.
The glue is a gel which doesn't run all over the phone casing like a low viscosity superglue and I would imagine does take up thickness but likely not as much as the original foam.
You can google it, it's on the Bostick web site, comes in a silver tube but doesn't say what the active ingredient is to find a similar product in France.
Gordon.

Coucou !
OK, I'll follow your advice, as I'm about to buy Evo-Stik Serious Glue, as seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Evo-Stik-Serious...pplies_Stationery_ET&hash=item4399564359#shId
And I'll have to wait till delivery, may be next week...
By the way, I maid a mis-spelling! I said "fought" instead of "thought"...
I was asking you what you think about neoprene glue, as I already have some at home. So ?
Thanks again!

Hello again,
Yep that's the stuff It's supposed to set fully in 2 hours but I left mine clamped overnight just to be sure as it gets full strength in 24 hours.
If you don't have small rubber faced clamps I'm sure you can rig something up even just leave it under something fairly heavy. If you're lucky and it holds after the suggested 3 minutes you may not even need to do this but mine was still moving after 3 minutes so I decided to clamp it.
I'd guess your neoprene glue is some sort of rubber adhesive, possibly a vulcanising glue which will melt rubber for bonding, repairing punctures etc., it may smell of petroleum but I guess it will be no good for your phone.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
Gordon.

Coucou !
I bought that now-famous Evo-Stik Serious Glue as I said in my later post.
So it should be now somewhere between England and France!
ASAS I received it and rebuild my phone, I'll get in touch and give you some news.