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THE PDA2K is a TERRIBLE MACHINE!
SSSoo many bugs....
1) BLUETOOTH JUNK
Bluetooth (after their so called patch), still headset causes it to turn on repeatedly draining your battery in no time. So unless you are connected to a powersupply, the bluetooth headset is useless cause I have to turn off the bluetooth anyway (if I want battery). Yes, I know it's been discussed many times, it still amazes me everyday.
2) ALBUM MOVIE PLAYER DOESN'T WORK AFTER BLUETOOTH PATCH
yep, I've made many tests, clean hardreset machine with no bt patch = I can record video and playback video (MP4) with no problem. Now after installing the BT patch, clicking on the ALBUM app or clicking on PREVIEW after fliming a video in mp4 will freeze the machine for about 5 seconds, and then soft reset it automatically. I've hard reseted twice to check and it's obvious the BT patch ruins it. Mysteriously, it sometimes does work even after the patch. I just wanted to show off my machine today and got laughed at (with good reason!) by a P900 user.
3) CASE IS USELESS
The case that comes with the machine is a joke, it pressed all the buttons even if you almost don't touch the case. They should have left alittle padding. Locking the keys is a must.
4) MORE BLUETOOTH ISSUES
I get repeatable bizzare errors of "memory problems" with bluetooth, and I need to reset the machine (ain't it great?). I also got twice a message about my BT expired.. LMAO. more resets. I actually thing about mapping one of the primary front keys to do a soft-reset.
5) BUILT-IN FAX SOFTWARE IS RUBBISH
A friend of mine tried it numerous times with no success. At clubimate they told him it doesn't work properly. (So why the hell did they put it there?)
6) POWER BUTTON TOO NEAR THE STYLUS
Happened to me several times that when I try to pull out the stylus, it pressed the power button and poweroff the machine. (bad human engineering here)
7) MORE BLUETOOTH MANIA
Amazingly the BT Headset (I tried 3 different models) cannot function for voice recognition, recording or hearing prompts. Seems the driver doesn't support it. If it did, the voice recognition with my Logitech new headset could have been better. Car BT hands-free also don't work for anything else than strictly during a conversation. I almost purchased a Motoroal Handfree BT Car set because I thought I could also use to hear navigation with my GPS Navigation software. I can't gear prompts cause again, it only functions during the conversation, lously.
8) TERRIBLE MICROPHONE DURING CONVERSATION
I've had several people complaining about not hearing me at all while I use the PDA2K directly (no BT headset). I have to should and hold the machine funny close to my mouth. Oh, and setting the microphone AGC gain control to Enable, does NOTHING for increasing microphone sensitivity, it only works for voice recording/notes taking.
9) OK, SO AT LEAST SET THE MICROPHONE AGC ENABLE FOR NOTES TAKING RIGHT? WRONG!
For taking voice notes or recording conversation, setting the microphone to AGC is a must or else you will hear almost nothing. So you Enable it out of no choice... But OOPS.. Now you find out the Voice Recognition software (Both Microsoft Voice Command or Fonix Voice Central) will disable it back, voice recognition software don't work well with the AGC gain enable. So.. you have to choose here Notes taking? Or voice recognition?
I have the machine just about two weeks and already got tired of it. It is a game, it's not a professional machine that you can actually work flawlessly with. Like a delicate toy, far from being a sturdy trusted pocket pc. Don't get me wrong, I'm a gadget freak, and I am willing to 'eat it up and shut up' but this is just to much. I've had a Cassiopeia E-125 for 4 years !!!! And Wwoooff.. ONLY now I can truly appreciate the Casio, 4 years and worked perfectly even though I dropped it many times, slept on it once, hit it by mistake and so on. Never failed me, and I didn't even knew what the Reset button looked like!
I'm truly disappointed... You get many features, but you pay the price of total instability and absolutly horrible amature like support from the HTC guys. No matter how many bugs other can find on iPaqs such as the 6315, I doubt it can reach to the extent this machine has.
:evil: :x :roll: :?
you are the weakest link...
goodbye
Well, since 3 of your 9 are bluetooth and 1 is the case, I think that says good things for the phone that you couldn't come up with any more...
I have the Sprint PPC-6601, which is basically the same phone with no wifi, but with fast 'vision' internet access...
I notice the bluetooth issues too. I have the zenphone profilier, and only turn bluetooth on when I am actually using it, in the car, for instance...
Other than that, I haven't had your issues. Power button seems fine to me. Callers report hearing me loud and clear, and I can hear them extremely well (it's the first phone I've had that can be made 'too' loud...)
Fax/Album/Recording. Haven't tried the fax. I use Resco for Album and recording, as the internal apps are really just 'lite' programs.
For my money, this is a great phone, and I'm very happy. Will be 100% when the get bluetooth working properly..
- Regards,
Ben
ben1000 said:
Well, since 3 of your 9 are bluetooth and 1 is the case, I think that says good things for the phone that you couldn't come up with any more...
I have the Sprint PPC-6601, which is basically the same phone with no wifi, but with fast 'vision' internet access...
I notice the bluetooth issues too. I have the zenphone profilier, and only turn bluetooth on when I am actually using it, in the car, for instance...
Other than that, I haven't had your issues. Power button seems fine to me. Callers report hearing me loud and clear, and I can hear them extremely well (it's the first phone I've had that can be made 'too' loud...)
Fax/Album/Recording. Haven't tried the fax. I use Resco for Album and recording, as the internal apps are really just 'lite' programs.
For my money, this is a great phone, and I'm very happy. Will be 100% when the get bluetooth working properly..
- Regards,
Ben
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Actually, I found dozens of similar complaints at the clubimate forums (as well as here) In particular, the so many BT complaints, microphone. I've used WINCE ever since it was version 2 16-gray scal on an old casio with 8mb of ram (gee that's history), I just wish HTC could have made a good job of actually making all the features work. The potential is super, and I guess (and hope) that most of the bug can easily be fixed with a decent programmatical procedures. You'll see dozens of complaints at the clubimate forums, lots of disappointed customers. Only HTCs fault for not making enough QA (or some say none)
To use the fax you have to have it enabled by your mobile provider (if they provide it at all)
You sound frustrated....sell it now and move on... Oh thats right there is NOTHING else like it out there.
When they get the bluetooth issues solved (and Im sure they will) you can then rebuy it.
BlueTooth is going to stuck until Microsoft can integrate a decent stack into the OS. It shouldn't be the job of the phone manufacturer to have to do that.
But it should be their job to properly QA it prior to selling it to their customer base.
Hi
I see all your issues and a load more. This device has the capability to be excellent. I hope that they fix the bugs promptly, and that the manufacturers take the bug fixes, and release appropriate updates shortly after.
Currently, O2 are sending out standard replies to all queries regarding this device (O2 XDA IIs) basically they say 'if you're not happy, send it back for a refund'. This is exactly the same as I got when I phoned them.
They keep offering to replace it, but that will not help to solve a software issue!
They did (eventually) fix most of the issues on the XDA II (although bluetooth still does not work correctly on that device either). I hope that the IIs gets the same treatment (with working bluetooth as well!)
Perhaps we should just ignore new releases, run 1 release behind... When the XDA 4 comes out, buy the 3, buy the 4 when they ship the 5 !!
We, the consumer are partly responsible for the manufacturers rushing products to market well before they are ready I suppose.
I checked out the reviews of the XDA IIs (and its friends) before I bought it, they did not have a bad word to say about it. All I can think is that the reviewers, either A) never even clapped eyes on the device, or B) never used it in anger, or C) were only allowed to review it if they said nice things about it. If I had seen a review that listed all the problems, then I would have waited a while --> and probably bought the Motorola MPx instead (which is probably just as bad, and ships with a *stupid* 32MB memory!!)
Nigel
I wish more companies were like Nebula-Electronics.com They released a freeview card 2 years ago, and have been improving upon the software ever since and offering it to customers for free. Their releases are spot on, they respond to bug reports, and they *beta* test the software with end users before they actually release the new version.
The nebula is is the best bit of software/hardware that I have ever bought... Unfortunately, most companies are not like nebula and simply move onto new hardware products without first having fixed the issues in old products.
Nigel
I bought a PDA2k from eXpansys USA, and was NOT able to repro the problem with the video camera. I was able to take video and play it back without any problems at all.
Perhaps you have a truly defective unit. Can you try returning it under warranty?
When the MPX finally ships, (which must be soon as Motorola have finally officially announced it last week and said it will be available to Asian markets this month and Europe Q1 2005) I think we're really going to see what a buggy device can be. I can't see that it's possible to run any software concurrently with wifi or bluetooth with only 32Mb of RAM and wm2003se taking up more than a third of that from bootup.
Still, the form factor is the appeal of the MPX and I can't wait to get one.
Having just taken delivery of an XDA IIs on Tuesday of last week, I was wondering if other users of this handset (or its variations) had any advice on how to get the most out of it in terms of useful apps, upgrades etc.
As a MS SmartPhone user for over two years I'm not completely clueless when it comes to the device or its operation, but there seems to be a dearth of information about these PPC devices elsewhere. I'd appreciate any pointers and tips.
Thanks in advance.
Get the Bluetooth patch then enjoy.
Can I apply the Asia BT Patch for the O2 XDA IIs to a UK XDA IIs, without any sideeffects?
O2 XDA IIs Bluetooth Patch?
Can someone please post a link to the 02 XDA IIs bluetooth patch?
Cheers
I've got 2 bluetooth patches, one is the essential one to bring you up to build 3500, the other is the one released at CES to give us 2 new bluetooth profiles.
both are available here[/url]
Thanks for that, have they made much of a difference for you?
The build 3500 patch made a phenominal difference to the build1900 that my XDA2s came with. bluetooth is stable, works, doesnt crash. fantastic.
I've installed the other one since then, it doesnt stop any of the other stuff working, but gives you new profiles for a stereo headset when playing music, and a bluetooth keyboard, neither of which I have, but reports on HowardsForums.com suggest that other people are getting on great with this.
I have been able to activate a semi-voice dial from my bt headset since I've had both patches (dont know if second one is essential or not - didnt try before I had it), as long as your voice dial software is running, you have to wakeup the headset by pressing the call button for a period of time longer than a single press but less than turning it off, you get white noise, at this point you can send voice commands to your XDA, but the feedback still comes out of the XDA speaker. it's a send only. Once the call is dialling though the ringing comes through to headset as normal.
This is a step in the right direction in my opinion!
What voice dial software are you using ?
Does anyone know how I can get hold of an O2 patch for fixing the poor mic performance when using the speaker?
@raiderz
I'm using Fonix Voice Dial, which came free on a disk from o2, apparently their new and improved Voice Central is much better (according to other forum users). Check out www.fonix.com
@mhanbury
Can't help with a speaker issue, havent tried speaker phone myself yet, I'm more of a headset person.
I think other users may have had the mic problem, not sure if it was hard/soft ware in the end. Several people have had it fixed now. I was reading about it on HowardForums, I've seen you there too, so it might be worth doing a search for microphone issue and seeing what comes up.
Works a treat, many many thanks!
XDA2s - Blackberry ?
Does anyone know if Blackberry is available on the XDA2s ?
- Activate the button lock or it will do all kinds of wierd stuff in your pocket.
- Check out clear type and see if you like it.
- Go to permanent save and make sure your contacts and calendar is stored permanently. With an XDA you NEVER know when it will do a major reset.
- Assign a button to flip the screen to make it easier browsing the web.
- Chose corporate during install to avoid the slow O2 active interface (that is if you don't like it)
- Get a fix for the minimize/closing of programs, like pocket plus.
- Take frequent backups to the PC
- Be carefull not to break the connector locking pins on the charger interface.
- Put the back light while on battery to the lowest setting. It drains your battery.
- Dont leave wifi on, it drains the battery.
- Get a better case for it. It's a pain having to get it out of the case to answer a call.
What case did you go for?
Do you have a link for it?
I just upgraded from a SPV m1000 (Himalaya) to a SPV m2000 (Blue Angel). I know I'm a little late to upgrade but I just thought I would share what I thought of it:
PROS
- Navigation pad - it's a lot better, with the m1000 I kept hitting the wrong direction because it was small and circular. The 4 buttons above the navigation make one-hand operation more possible.
- Bluetooth: It now comes with Widcomm BT as standard so you can send files and join a BT network. I tried getting the Widcomm stack to work on the m1000 but I couldn't get activesync to work. On the old MS BT stack activesync kept failing for some unknown reason, on the m2000 it works fine.
- Built-in Wifi: A lot more convenient than having to constantly swap SD cards. Also I suspect using the Socket BT driver pushed the m1000 too near the 32 process limit so Skype's VoIP didn't work properly. While voice quality on Skype on the m2000 isn't perfect the other person is at least comprehensible.
- 43MB flash RAM: The m1000 only had 14MB which was probably enough. It only occured to me recently to store all my documents in this area to avoid data loss if the main RAM was wiped.
- Slide down keyboard: Should make writing emails faster, though I'm still getting used to it.
- Higher capacity battery: gets you through the day. Sometimes I would be out of juice by the end of the day on the m1000.
- MMS is built into the email application.
- Pocket Internet Explorer now renders pages without horizontal scrolling which reduces the need for alternative browsers like NetFront.
- Screen Rotation: While there was quite a good utility for screen rotation available on these forums for PPC 2003, the one in SE is faster, the apps re-render better and the navigation pad is also rotated.
- The audio socket is on the top of the device, though there is an awkward rubber "stopper".
CONS
- It's slightly bigger and heavier but you get used to it.
- The email application takes a little longer to load which can be annoying when you want to quickly see the last couple of SMSes.
- The power button is on the right hand side which is a little more awkward, though it does stop you from accidently pressing it when you shove the device into your pocket.
- The volumn slider isn't as easy to use - it's nearly flush with the surface.
- Case: Isn't very good - you have to take the device out to use it. The m1000 case fits the m2000 but you will still have to take it out to use the slide down keyboard.
- Headphones: Has only one button to answer calls instead of answer and reject buttons on the m1000.
OTHER INFO
m1000 PPCTechs Sync n' Charge cable should work with m2000 though you will need to get a new audio adapater if you want to use 3.5mm headphones.
Thanks for your comparison,
Was thinking about upgrading my M1000, but I think I'll wait for the SPV 3G to come out unless it's going to be ages! I do love the M2000 though, my mate has it and he loves having a better phone than me...
I upgraded from the M1000 to the M2000 about a month or two ago, and im very happy, there are a few "CONS" as with any device you buy, but i think the "PROS" totally see over this and make it a much better PPC than the M1000....
Markh - just one thing, about the headphones(handsfree) only having one button as apposed to the M1000 having two, It actually is a whole lot better in my view, cos now you dont havr to look at which button you pressing to pick it up, there is now one button to "pick up" and the same button to "put down".... no more worries about pushing the red one when u want to pick up...
Pros:
Keyboard
Wi-fi
Looks better
Specs look better on paper
Cons:
Battery is appauling
Appaulingly slow and unstable
Rarely works for calls (in a variety of ways ie you won't even notice it's crashed as it looks fine and the PPC functions work, but you get home at the end of the day and have tonnes of messages from people saying your phone's turned off / the no sound (no connection) problem experienced by 77% of users.)
SPB Pocketplus (the only 3rd party app I really used) makes a bad phone perform worse
Most of the extra features make it crash (ie. the screen rotate)
Almost anything makes media player skip as the phone can't handle it
Screen has a yellow hue
Crappy headphone adapter
Getting your sim out is a b!tch
Volume slider is awkward
IR port is on the side so IR keyboards won't work (even if you rotate the screen) so I need to buy an expensive BT one
Disabled BT in 'beam' option: although BT 3900 fixes this for file manager, the pictures app suffers. You can no longer choose the picture to beam by looking for the thumbnail.
Hard Resets at random
Soft resets at random
Hi I'm new to the site, i had read a lot post about upgrading roms from different companys, i read people describe how good the a2dp quilty is, but the problems comes, i first upgraded the rom to T-Mobile , then i found there are a high pitch nosie, at first, i though it was just my earphone, after i changed it, it still the same, then i upgrade to the QTEK rom, the nosie still comes, the nosie comes as the singer start to sing!!! it makes my so dizzy, i had try to link my BT to my PC, but they sound much different! no nosie plus clearer sound!
the second problem is that when a phone call-in, the ringtone goes via BT rather than built-in speaker???
the third problem is if you set ur BT as both hands free/set and wireless stero, during a connected phone call, if you press any button on the dial pad, all the sound will gone, but the phone is still connected, i found this problem when i using my voice mail?!
also after i update to the non-O2 rom, my phone is no longer accept any MMS, i already config all the setting from O2, is just that i don't have my MMS acount appear on my mail box. i also try the .cab setting file too!
My A2DP BT is i-Tech S35
ROM Version: 1.30.77WWE (QTEK)
Radio Version: 1.09.00 (QTEK)
ExtROM Version: 1.13.188 WWE (O2)
Many Thanks!!!
Was it just me than having this problem???
- I've not the first problem.
- I've the second problem
- I never experienced third problem
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46540
Click on the above link , download the file and run it on your phone, do not alter any of the options, just click next on everything it will fix your MMS problem
thx a ur advice coff... but it still doesn't work, plus i starting to think that the nosie might cause by my s35, due to the campasility.. (sorry can't spell)
Hi MicmiC901,
Yes, it probably is something "locally" with your phone/headset/area/etc, since I also have same experience as asci, meaning;
1. NO, don't have that problem
2. YES, I have same issue (to me this is actually OK, since when headset is connected, I WANT it to only ring in the headset)
3. NO, never experienced this problem
I use the latest Qtek ROM with AKU2 and A2DP, but have never experienced that high-frequent-noise-issue you mention with any other of the A2DP ROMs on my JasJar (TMobile Germany ROM, a custom-ROM from the forums).
so RonnyGydar, which bt headset u using @ the moment? i just try with my friends logitech bt headphone, it get worse than my i.tech, sound get Stuttering , so i think i better change a new bt, would u recommand moto ht-820?
Hi MicmiC901,
Sorry the veeery slow response...but now I have even one more BT Stereo headset...so then you get the "bonus" of even more info in my reply!
I have 3 BT Stereo Headsets, and here is a short summary of experience of them all.
HP BT Stereo Headphones (same HW as the Logitech ones as I understand).
Sound is good, clear, OK bass. Nothing exceptional, but I was very pleased with them. Sound could be a bit higher at the highest volume...if you plan to use then in noisy environments...but not really an issue...since they are quite loud.
Motorola HS820
Soundwise (clarity and bass) very simmilar to the HP ones...can't point my finger on any differences. But they seem actually a little less loud than the HP ones...so with these I struggeled to hear Podcasts when I sat on a bus going through tunnels. The HP headphones are slightly louder, I think.
Bonus of these are the excellent batterylife and miniUSB plug...plus the HP ones do not have a microphone, so the HP ones are only for music. So I would easily chose the Motorola's before the HP headphones.
One minus for me with the Motorola's are that they hurt my ears after a couple of hours of use. ...that at lack of "powerfull" bass, got me to look at the i-Tech BluePRO's...
i-Tech BluePRO
These have very good bass (and they sure look like they should have it too...pretty big earmufflers...with these, you look like you are working at a construction site or something, but the clarity of the sound is actually worse than HP and Motorola...they sound a bit fuzzy.
...but I still use these all the time...mainly for two reasons. One is the excellent bass (I like to listen to techno and trance...and then bass is important, the other is that they isolate outside sounds (due to the enormous padding), so I can have the sound as low as I prefer...and STILL hear all my music without disturbance from other sounds in the environment (like sitting on the bus in a tunnel, or at a noise Gym).
It also seems that there is quite a bit difference in how the different manufacturers implement BT profiles.
My Motorola and i-Tech BluePRO have problems with "Pause/Resume"-button on headset when used with my JasJar (Pause works, but not resume...or opposite...not sure which it was, dont have the headsets with me today)...but the HP ones does not (I tested them a couple of times, and the HP headphones worked all the time)!?
Re-connection after a time without use seems also to vary a bit. The Motorola I can turn off/on the headset, and they reconnect automatically to my JasJar. The i-Tech BluePRO's I must choose re-connect in "Bluetooth settings" on my JasJar every time I want to use them.
The "famous" "lag-issue" everybody experiences I experience with all my headphones in some situations...and it does not seem any better or worse among the headsets. It seems to also be affected by general radio disturbance, since I have a lot of problems with lag at work, but no problems at all at the Gym (which is good for me...since that is the place I am most happy with having my wireless headphones), and some issues at home.
Hope this was of any help!
actually i have the problem micmic is talking about.. it happened when i upgraded my wiz to a newer rom to get the a2dp function. eventually i do not have a bt.stereo -headset yet.. (coming in about 2 weeks) but i have the issues with the sound. it's almost like a bad bitrate or something? ..wierd it is since i remains even if i downgrade my rom. =/
Hi epluribus and MicmiC901,
Is the "stuttering" you both mentioning the same as I call "occational lag"?
IF it is...it you should certainly not have it when you do the following test;
1. Reset your JasJar/Universal (to clean memmory completely)
2. Started listening to music over headset with...
3. The Universal lying on the desk in front of you completely still 50cm from your face
4. You sitting completely still
5. No WiFi on close to you.
...this test is completely overkill...but if it STILL stutters in that "controlled scenario"...well then it must be something different with your Universal or headset HW. Cause I can walk around with my JasJar (also in areas I know there are 5-6 WiFi connections active...like my appartment), and even put the JasJar on the table and walk 5-10 meters away from it...and have no or at least nothing more than an "occational stutter"/"lag".
It seems to be two major factors affecting this "stuttering"/"lag" (from my experiences at least...I have used A2DP a lot with my Universal...couple of hours every day);
1. Universal struggling outputting(RAM/CPU...or both!?)
One help here is to apply the registry "A2DP priority" fix (found it in the forums here).
Another is to close all programs before using it (I usually do not do this...I usually only do it in hindsight when I get the problem).
2. Signal between Universal and headset struggling (obstructions between Universal and headset, WiFi nearby, so forth)
I for example get this problem if I put my Universal in my trouser pocket (I know, I must have big pockets, and walk around, I get stuttering/lag occationally. If I then take it out, and hold it in my hand farily still when I walk...no stuttering. I have found, that when I walk, it is OK to have it in my backpack/rugsack...then for some reason it very rearly stutters...so I usually do that.
But when I walk of the bus at work, and walk into the "campus" of my workplace, which is cramped with radiotransmitters (is norways largest Telecom company)...I get a lot of stuttering, and need to take it out of backpack, and hold it in my hand, at it gets a lot better.
In short: A2DP with the Universal works, but is sensitive to disturbance/obstructions/moving around...and to make it worse, it is also sometimes dependant of the Universal itself struggling with CPU/RAM.
I have BTW had the exact same problems before with Qtek2020 and Qtek9090 (which I got hold of some "A2DP patches", when I had those devices). ...but I really had a LOT more stuttering with those two...so much so, that I never used A2DP with them on a daily basis.
...so it can seem that HTC is getting slightly better on each new device...?
Hope this info can be of some use!
...but it might not...if my assumption at the beginning here is wrong, and your "stuttering"-issue is something completely different than the "lag"-issue I talk about!?
So folks,
today the sony ericsson live view arrived. It´s quite cheap in germany (42 euro).
The package contains:
Live View
Wrist strap
Clip
Charger (mini USB, also loads the phone it you want to!)
Manuals
So the device is really smal and does what it promises.
I read some bad reviews at amazon.de, but until now it does not seem to be as bad. The connection between the phone and the live view broke up when it was about 3 meters, so that´s OK so far (could be better).
Reading SMS or the other stuff works.
Sportypal Pro does not work. (that´s one of two released apps that have live view support)
Instalation is easy, no problems there.
The clip has broken down after trying to release the live view for the second time.
Can´t say anything about battery life time until now.
But... I would say, thinking about future plugins for 3rd party apps, this litte device can be something really relly cool. I mean, if you have for example a OSM navigation app, that has live view support, you can easily fix that wrist strap on to the handlebar of your bike... and so on...
It also works as a remote for the music player (can be interesting on skies).
But now a little question. What musicplayer is that (pic) ... This musicplayer has to be installed at the phone natively, but i have no link to open it...
Best regards
(sorry for that really bad english, but it´s very late, the day was very long)
I would love to hear more about your live view as time goes on. I see great potentials in this little gizmo. Question; can you pair live view and a bluetooth [email protected] same time?
Also that native music app is available through creating custom shortcut with adw or launcherpro. There's prolly a thread with shortcut apk file somewhere in this forum. Good luck!
Free X10!
just got Live View this morning - actually, not for me, for my wife as she's got an X10. But since she's on T-mobile and they haven't issued their 2.1 update yet, we couldn't try it out on that device but did manage to do so on my HTC Desire.
First impressions of the box/presentations were pretty shoddy. For some reason here in the UK we were issued a 2-pin European plug (suggesting that etraders got their first batch from abroad) rather than a 3-pin one. Lucky I had an adapter at home. And it wasn't even in the box, it was just shoved in a bag in the mail package.
The accessories with the device are very plasticky. You get a wrist strap, a clip (to attach to pockets, bag handles etc) and a watch housing so you can attach it to the wrist strap. Actually getting the damn wrist strap/watch housing connected was very fiddly, took us about 20 minutes of messing around with little metal pins they supply to get it right. Again, why they couldn't have done this themselves is a mystery and making the customer do it is just frustrating.
First impressions of the device itself are decent, the calling/message notifications work well, the screen is large enough that you can read full text messages and you have the option to mute/reject calls when they come in.
Couple of annoying things: it does seem to lose its pairing fairly easily, maybe it's because we're using the Desire at the moment and not the X10 but I'm not sure. Also, the notification light (e.g. it flashes green if there is a message) doesn't last very long, just a few seconds, it would make more sense if it kept on flashing until you viewed the message.
Oh, one more annoying thing. If you lose the pairing, the watch can't show the time since it takes the time from the phone. My wife wouldn't mind using this as a watch as well, but she would need to have the phone with her all the time and paired up if that was the case. Again, not terribly practical.
there is potential though, the idea of plug-ins is a good one and hopefully there will be a lot of these to expand the functionality of the device.
Will write more once my wife's phone gets the update and is connected.
please look at that can print incoming calls, whether the caller's name
Yes, it does
mr.valacky said:
please look at that can print incoming calls, whether the caller's name
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Yes, it does
What is the battery life like?
Anyone tried it together with eg. the MW600 bt headset ??
- can both devices work with the phone at the same time ??
sry I don´t have a second bt device.
battery life will be tested this week.
pshdo said:
Anyone tried it together with eg. the MW600 bt headset ??
- can both devices work with the phone at the same time ??
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Couldn't try it with the MW600, but was able to test it with another stereo headset, the HB205 (Sony Ericsson). Worked fine no problem, tried calling the phone and the headphones stopped the music and rang the tone while the Liveview displayed the name/number and vibrated. I would imagine it would be the same for other bluetooth headsets.
dreadnought001 said:
Yes, it does
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thank you!
Thank you...
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Just to clarify, The liveview doesn't lose the time if it disconnects, it loses the time if you then turn it off completely (therefore resetting it).
In fact last night I went to find it to charge it as I only wear it at work, and I pressed the button and it was saying 1.06 am, and i hadn't even had my bluetooth on let alone had the thing near my phone.
Same thing with some of the connection issues, sometimes it goes wrong completely, but depending on what you do in certain situations, you can reconnect quickly.
The problem is SE haven't spelt these out, even pairing the thing in the first place was a nightmare, I had it for 48 mins and couldn't even use it, as i didn't know all the delicate things about it when things don't work. Couldn't really give this to someone as a gift as a casual user, may effect sales until they get the app working better. But I am okay with it now and its doing what I need it to do, and lasting the day.
protorix said:
It also works as a remote for the music player (can be interesting on skies).
But now a little question. What musicplayer is that (pic) ... This musicplayer has to be installed at the phone natively, but i have no link to open it...
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It seems to me the native Android media player, can someone confirm? The odd thing is that I haven't found a way to start this media player stand alone...
I'm actually disappointed that the supported media player isn't Mediascape, so I can't start music from phone and then switch to Liveview!
Can confirm that supported music player is Android native player, which is a real bummer as I use mediascape for all my music. To activate, simply depress right button on liveview for 2-3 seconds.
I bought one today at a Telenor shop in Stockholm. It cost me 567SEK (60 EUROS) and I would recommend no one pays more than that for a LiveView in Sweden.
I agree with all the previous reviews. It does what it says on the tin ! But it is not ready yet to gift to your girlfriend for Christmas... The strap and holder are cheap plastic and I managed to bend one of the mounting pins whilst carefully trying to put it all together, if they had assembled the watchstrap before-hand it would have saved alot of problems. The instruction manual gave no direction on this at all ! If anything, the single diagram of the watchstrap was misleading.
The LiveView is smaller than expected, if anything it is too small and I wouldn't have complained if it was a little larger and 'styled' somewhat. It's the sort of thing that (and I hope SE have registered patents !!!) SonyEricsson could sell the LiveView module to a proper watch manufacturer like Seiko who could make something more stylish out of it. As it is, it is a small, square bit of plastic which performs some functions but is clearly capable of much more.
This is one of those things that you think is a good idea, but far too early for release. I can promise you that you will all be wearing a 'LiveView' type device in five years time.... But the current version is really still on the geek/hacker level.
But I do hope this does result in some interesting apps in the next few months.
My current, major technical concern with LiveView is that if it is more than 2 metres away from my X10 then it loses connection. My Bluetooth headset can easily manage 5 metres and so should LiveView. But it does manage to automatically reconnect to my X10 when in range, but it leaves the "Find my phone" application pretty useless.
lornova said:
It seems to me the native Android media player, can someone confirm? The odd thing is that I haven't found a way to start this media player stand alone...
I'm actually disappointed that the supported media player isn't Mediascape, so I can't start music from phone and then switch to Liveview!
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adw installed
long touch on an empty field
"other shortcut"
"chose activity"
"activitys"
"music" / "gallery"
so whats the definitive answer on the mw600 connected at the same time as liveview ?! can both be used at the same time ?!
can u listen to music whilst reading texts emails etc !? ...ie both devices connected at the same time without disconnection (i can cope with the calls being halted or an odd stall when i get a text but if both cannot be used at the same time then it defeats the object of having wireless devices with the bluetooth headphones and the liveview to control it!
I can confirm that LiveView and Mw600 can work together, at the same time with no problem !
dreadnought001 said:
Couldn't try it with the MW600, but was able to test it with another stereo headset, the HB205 (Sony Ericsson). Worked fine no problem, tried calling the phone and the headphones stopped the music and rang the tone while the Liveview displayed the name/number and vibrated. I would imagine it would be the same for other bluetooth headsets.
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cashaw said:
I can confirm that LiveView and Mw600 can work together, at the same time with no problem !
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Cheers to you both for answering a question I've been trying in vain to get SonyEricsson Support (useless) to answer for me.