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SX66 Issues

I have had my SX66 since Wednesday. Here are the issues I have found, and if anyone has any suggestions, PLEASE let me know!
1. Bluetooth is really bad. Scratchy, drop connections, says signal is low even when headset (Jabra 250) is right next to the unit. (I have the O2 3500 stack installed)
2. Bluetooth response time for headset answer button is SLOW, as is sending the data to the headset when a call comes in and is answered by headset.
3. When Bluetooth is ON, the phone will turn the display ON at random intervals, killing the battery if the backlight is left in the on mode.
4. WiFi is horrible, drops connections constantly, even in same room with router (Linksys w/5db antennas atached). Also, it will NOT work with a network unless the SSID s broadcast - so much for security!
5. The phone features are SO vastly different than regular phones, it makes you wonder if it is working. My unit will NOT echo the DTMF into the headset (which every phone I have ever owned did) to confirm pressing (for VM retirval, etc.). Very confusing.
6. Answer after x rings is a joke. I have it set to 2 rings, and it will never answer automatically headset or not...what's the point?
I hope someone out there can help, otherwise, I may have to put this baby on eBay...because it really sucks at this point!
Tom

Update
Well, I downloaded the O2 update, and that seems to have made a difference in the STABILITY of the BT connection; the unit did not drop my headset at all during the day; further the "response" of the SX66 to a command from the headset seems faster.
Also, since I installed this update, I have NOT seen the screen turn on...perhaps this helped that problem...?
:evil: The BT is STILL scratchy/noisy, but not as bad...perhaps the next round will help...?
I will keep you posted!

I have/had the same issues you are describing. The bluetooth patch 3500-124 fixed almost all my BT issues except the extremely low signal. I tried the HS810, HS820 and the Jabra 250. All were horrible. I even went as far as installing the latest i-mate pda2k ROM 1.22.00 wwe on my sx66. I finally took the advice of a poster on another forum (thanks mswlogo) and purchased a sony hbh-300. So far it has been great. It handles the low signal like a champ and doesnt offer any static or popping.

Need a friggin repeater!
Someone should make a BT repeater...or maybe I should try one of those internal antennas..."as seen on tv!"

New to XDA IIs - is there anything I should know?

Having just taken delivery of an XDA IIs on Tuesday of last week, I was wondering if other users of this handset (or its variations) had any advice on how to get the most out of it in terms of useful apps, upgrades etc.
As a MS SmartPhone user for over two years I'm not completely clueless when it comes to the device or its operation, but there seems to be a dearth of information about these PPC devices elsewhere. I'd appreciate any pointers and tips.
Thanks in advance.

Get the Bluetooth patch then enjoy.

Can I apply the Asia BT Patch for the O2 XDA IIs to a UK XDA IIs, without any sideeffects?

O2 XDA IIs Bluetooth Patch?
Can someone please post a link to the 02 XDA IIs bluetooth patch?
Cheers

I've got 2 bluetooth patches, one is the essential one to bring you up to build 3500, the other is the one released at CES to give us 2 new bluetooth profiles.
both are available here[/url]

Thanks for that, have they made much of a difference for you?

The build 3500 patch made a phenominal difference to the build1900 that my XDA2s came with. bluetooth is stable, works, doesnt crash. fantastic.
I've installed the other one since then, it doesnt stop any of the other stuff working, but gives you new profiles for a stereo headset when playing music, and a bluetooth keyboard, neither of which I have, but reports on HowardsForums.com suggest that other people are getting on great with this.
I have been able to activate a semi-voice dial from my bt headset since I've had both patches (dont know if second one is essential or not - didnt try before I had it), as long as your voice dial software is running, you have to wakeup the headset by pressing the call button for a period of time longer than a single press but less than turning it off, you get white noise, at this point you can send voice commands to your XDA, but the feedback still comes out of the XDA speaker. it's a send only. Once the call is dialling though the ringing comes through to headset as normal.
This is a step in the right direction in my opinion!

What voice dial software are you using ?

Does anyone know how I can get hold of an O2 patch for fixing the poor mic performance when using the speaker?

@raiderz
I'm using Fonix Voice Dial, which came free on a disk from o2, apparently their new and improved Voice Central is much better (according to other forum users). Check out www.fonix.com
@mhanbury
Can't help with a speaker issue, havent tried speaker phone myself yet, I'm more of a headset person.
I think other users may have had the mic problem, not sure if it was hard/soft ware in the end. Several people have had it fixed now. I was reading about it on HowardForums, I've seen you there too, so it might be worth doing a search for microphone issue and seeing what comes up.

Works a treat, many many thanks!

XDA2s - Blackberry ?
Does anyone know if Blackberry is available on the XDA2s ?

- Activate the button lock or it will do all kinds of wierd stuff in your pocket.
- Check out clear type and see if you like it.
- Go to permanent save and make sure your contacts and calendar is stored permanently. With an XDA you NEVER know when it will do a major reset.
- Assign a button to flip the screen to make it easier browsing the web.
- Chose corporate during install to avoid the slow O2 active interface (that is if you don't like it)
- Get a fix for the minimize/closing of programs, like pocket plus.
- Take frequent backups to the PC
- Be carefull not to break the connector locking pins on the charger interface.
- Put the back light while on battery to the lowest setting. It drains your battery.
- Dont leave wifi on, it drains the battery.
- Get a better case for it. It's a pain having to get it out of the case to answer a call.

What case did you go for?
Do you have a link for it?

Nosie With A2DP!!!

Hi I'm new to the site, i had read a lot post about upgrading roms from different companys, i read people describe how good the a2dp quilty is, but the problems comes, i first upgraded the rom to T-Mobile , then i found there are a high pitch nosie, at first, i though it was just my earphone, after i changed it, it still the same, then i upgrade to the QTEK rom, the nosie still comes, the nosie comes as the singer start to sing!!! it makes my so dizzy, i had try to link my BT to my PC, but they sound much different! no nosie plus clearer sound!
the second problem is that when a phone call-in, the ringtone goes via BT rather than built-in speaker???
the third problem is if you set ur BT as both hands free/set and wireless stero, during a connected phone call, if you press any button on the dial pad, all the sound will gone, but the phone is still connected, i found this problem when i using my voice mail?!
also after i update to the non-O2 rom, my phone is no longer accept any MMS, i already config all the setting from O2, is just that i don't have my MMS acount appear on my mail box. i also try the .cab setting file too!
My A2DP BT is i-Tech S35
ROM Version: 1.30.77WWE (QTEK)
Radio Version: 1.09.00 (QTEK)
ExtROM Version: 1.13.188 WWE (O2)
Many Thanks!!!

Was it just me than having this problem???

- I've not the first problem.
- I've the second problem
- I never experienced third problem
:wink:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46540
Click on the above link , download the file and run it on your phone, do not alter any of the options, just click next on everything it will fix your MMS problem

thx a ur advice coff... but it still doesn't work, plus i starting to think that the nosie might cause by my s35, due to the campasility.. (sorry can't spell)

Hi MicmiC901,
Yes, it probably is something "locally" with your phone/headset/area/etc, since I also have same experience as asci, meaning;
1. NO, don't have that problem
2. YES, I have same issue (to me this is actually OK, since when headset is connected, I WANT it to only ring in the headset)
3. NO, never experienced this problem
I use the latest Qtek ROM with AKU2 and A2DP, but have never experienced that high-frequent-noise-issue you mention with any other of the A2DP ROMs on my JasJar (TMobile Germany ROM, a custom-ROM from the forums).

so RonnyGydar, which bt headset u using @ the moment? i just try with my friends logitech bt headphone, it get worse than my i.tech, sound get Stuttering , so i think i better change a new bt, would u recommand moto ht-820?

Hi MicmiC901,
Sorry the veeery slow response...but now I have even one more BT Stereo headset...so then you get the "bonus" of even more info in my reply!
I have 3 BT Stereo Headsets, and here is a short summary of experience of them all.
HP BT Stereo Headphones (same HW as the Logitech ones as I understand).
Sound is good, clear, OK bass. Nothing exceptional, but I was very pleased with them. Sound could be a bit higher at the highest volume...if you plan to use then in noisy environments...but not really an issue...since they are quite loud.
Motorola HS820
Soundwise (clarity and bass) very simmilar to the HP ones...can't point my finger on any differences. But they seem actually a little less loud than the HP ones...so with these I struggeled to hear Podcasts when I sat on a bus going through tunnels. The HP headphones are slightly louder, I think.
Bonus of these are the excellent batterylife and miniUSB plug...plus the HP ones do not have a microphone, so the HP ones are only for music. So I would easily chose the Motorola's before the HP headphones.
One minus for me with the Motorola's are that they hurt my ears after a couple of hours of use. ...that at lack of "powerfull" bass, got me to look at the i-Tech BluePRO's...
i-Tech BluePRO
These have very good bass (and they sure look like they should have it too...pretty big earmufflers...with these, you look like you are working at a construction site or something, but the clarity of the sound is actually worse than HP and Motorola...they sound a bit fuzzy.
...but I still use these all the time...mainly for two reasons. One is the excellent bass (I like to listen to techno and trance...and then bass is important, the other is that they isolate outside sounds (due to the enormous padding), so I can have the sound as low as I prefer...and STILL hear all my music without disturbance from other sounds in the environment (like sitting on the bus in a tunnel, or at a noise Gym).
It also seems that there is quite a bit difference in how the different manufacturers implement BT profiles.
My Motorola and i-Tech BluePRO have problems with "Pause/Resume"-button on headset when used with my JasJar (Pause works, but not resume...or opposite...not sure which it was, dont have the headsets with me today)...but the HP ones does not (I tested them a couple of times, and the HP headphones worked all the time)!?
Re-connection after a time without use seems also to vary a bit. The Motorola I can turn off/on the headset, and they reconnect automatically to my JasJar. The i-Tech BluePRO's I must choose re-connect in "Bluetooth settings" on my JasJar every time I want to use them.
The "famous" "lag-issue" everybody experiences I experience with all my headphones in some situations...and it does not seem any better or worse among the headsets. It seems to also be affected by general radio disturbance, since I have a lot of problems with lag at work, but no problems at all at the Gym (which is good for me...since that is the place I am most happy with having my wireless headphones), and some issues at home.
Hope this was of any help!

actually i have the problem micmic is talking about.. it happened when i upgraded my wiz to a newer rom to get the a2dp function. eventually i do not have a bt.stereo -headset yet.. (coming in about 2 weeks) but i have the issues with the sound. it's almost like a bad bitrate or something? ..wierd it is since i remains even if i downgrade my rom. =/

Hi epluribus and MicmiC901,
Is the "stuttering" you both mentioning the same as I call "occational lag"?
IF it is...it you should certainly not have it when you do the following test;
1. Reset your JasJar/Universal (to clean memmory completely)
2. Started listening to music over headset with...
3. The Universal lying on the desk in front of you completely still 50cm from your face
4. You sitting completely still
5. No WiFi on close to you.
...this test is completely overkill...but if it STILL stutters in that "controlled scenario"...well then it must be something different with your Universal or headset HW. Cause I can walk around with my JasJar (also in areas I know there are 5-6 WiFi connections active...like my appartment), and even put the JasJar on the table and walk 5-10 meters away from it...and have no or at least nothing more than an "occational stutter"/"lag".
It seems to be two major factors affecting this "stuttering"/"lag" (from my experiences at least...I have used A2DP a lot with my Universal...couple of hours every day);
1. Universal struggling outputting(RAM/CPU...or both!?)
One help here is to apply the registry "A2DP priority" fix (found it in the forums here).
Another is to close all programs before using it (I usually do not do this...I usually only do it in hindsight when I get the problem).
2. Signal between Universal and headset struggling (obstructions between Universal and headset, WiFi nearby, so forth)
I for example get this problem if I put my Universal in my trouser pocket (I know, I must have big pockets, and walk around, I get stuttering/lag occationally. If I then take it out, and hold it in my hand farily still when I walk...no stuttering. I have found, that when I walk, it is OK to have it in my backpack/rugsack...then for some reason it very rearly stutters...so I usually do that.
But when I walk of the bus at work, and walk into the "campus" of my workplace, which is cramped with radiotransmitters (is norways largest Telecom company)...I get a lot of stuttering, and need to take it out of backpack, and hold it in my hand, at it gets a lot better.
In short: A2DP with the Universal works, but is sensitive to disturbance/obstructions/moving around...and to make it worse, it is also sometimes dependant of the Universal itself struggling with CPU/RAM.
I have BTW had the exact same problems before with Qtek2020 and Qtek9090 (which I got hold of some "A2DP patches", when I had those devices). ...but I really had a LOT more stuttering with those two...so much so, that I never used A2DP with them on a daily basis.
...so it can seem that HTC is getting slightly better on each new device...?
Hope this info can be of some use!
...but it might not...if my assumption at the beginning here is wrong, and your "stuttering"-issue is something completely different than the "lag"-issue I talk about!?

stereo bt but mono sound

iam currently using latest rom from dopod and motorola 820, although the two earpiece have sounds it is only mono, can someone help to make it stereo? o recomend what rom to use, thanks

In order to have stereo audio on a Bluetooth device, you need a profile called A2DP, which is currently only supported by the latest Qtek Universal ROM at the moment:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Updates/UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe
Dopod has not released a ROM supporting A2DP yet.

thanks for the help, God bless

No problem. Do let us know whether it works well or not.

it works, i have stereo sound, but need improvements, in a song the bluetoth stops 3 to 4 times when playing, the player dont stop its the motorola 820 that stops several times.

I did come across a post with a patch for the A2DP flaw the other day. It's somewhere on this site - do a search and see if you're lucky.

Found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46811&highlight=universal+a2dp
It worked for me for a little while so try it.

Hi,
I have used A2DP a lot with my JasJar the last 4-5 months, and had written a summary of my experiences with this "lag/stuttering"-issue in another thread here...I have copied the most essential of that text below...might be usefull info for you;
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It seems to be two major factors affecting this "stuttering"/"lag" (from my experiences at least...I have used A2DP a lot with my Universal...couple of hours every day);
1. Universal struggling outputting(RAM/CPU...or both!?)
One help here is to apply the registry "A2DP priority" fix (found it in the forums here...and so did richardlai).
Another is to close all programs before using it (I usually do not do this...I usually only do it in hindsight when I get the problem).
2. Signal between Universal and headset struggling (obstructions between Universal and headset, WiFi nearby, so forth)
I for example get this problem if I put my Universal in my trouser pocket (I know, I must have big pockets, and walk around, I get stuttering/lag occationally. If I then take it out, and hold it in my hand farily still when I walk...no stuttering. I have found, that when I walk, it is Ok to have it in my backpack/rugsack...then for some reason it very rearly stutters...so I usually do that.
But when I walk of the bus at work, and walk into the "campus" of my workplace, which is cramped with radiotransmitters (is norways largest Telecom company)...I get a lot of stuttering, and need to take it out of backpack, and hold it in my hand, at it gets a lot better.
In short: A2DP with the Universal works, but is sensitive to disturbance/obstructions/moving around...and to make it worse, it is also sometimes dependant of the Universal itself struggling with CPU/RAM. So you can not totally get rid of the problem...but you can do a lot to minimize it...I almost never experience it now...except in the campus-area at work that is.
I have BTW had the exact same problems before with Qtek 2020 and Qtek9090 (which I got hold of some "A2DP patches", when I had those devices). ...but I really had a LOT more stuttering with those two...so much so, that I never used A2DP with them on a daily basis.
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I also wrote a short post on my experiences with the different stereo headsets I have...yes, they actually act a little bit different it seems (regarding resume/pause button, and how easy/automatic they "reconnect"). You can see it here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47977
Hope this is of some help for you!

RonnyGydar: I came across your little summary a little while ago and have done the registry fix, but the problem still exists! Do you think altering the value in some way would help?

richardlai,
I added the registry value manually...found a reg-file (or was it a CAB-file!?) that supposedly should add it...but when I checked later the key was still not added in the registry?
So I added it manually.
BUT, I do still have the problem...but that seems to be radio interference/distance so forth...since when I hold JasJar in my hand and don't move it around, I NEVER have an problem. ...and actually fairly rearly when I have it in my rugsack/backpack.
With 1 or 2 exceptions...where it lagged "all the time"...but then a soft-reset cured it.
So if you have this problem with your phone lying in front of you on the table...then it really sounds like it is the JasJar/Universal that IS the cause (and not interference)...and yes then the registry hack should help.
BUT I have not done any real testing of the effect of it...I am not sure how much effect it really has...all I know is that I had a "lot of problems" with lag before...and now I almost never have it.
...I hate those "diffuse" problems...when it is impossible to measure in a "scientific" way that "this cures it", and "this do not"! :-(
Sorry about the "little help" I give here...but this issue is a bit "fuzzy"...I have gotten it enough under control to that it isn't a problem any more (during a 1 hour workout, I will typically get this gap/lag 0-2 times...and that is not a problem for me...at least compared to what I experienced 6 months ago, where I was lucky if I could hear 10 seconds without any problems).

The stuttering problem seems to be permanent now... Luckily I have a HP hx4700 (which has a Broadcom bluetooth module) and works perfectly with my Jabra HT620s. Anyone using an A2DP ROM other than Qtek? I'd like to try a different ROM to see if it would make a difference.

only a second of sound
i use the qstarz bt stereo headset (http://www.qstarz.com/products/bh-q392s.aspx) and it works fine for phonecalls, but when i set it for wireless stereo and start a media player (TCPMP, WMP, Pocket Player...) i mostly only get sound for one second and then it shuts up. the players keep playing, the buttons on the headset can pause, resume and change tracks but there is no sound at all.
i get full wireless stereo playback occasionally, but i can't figure out what differs from time to time.
i applied the above patch with no success. anyone has a thought on the matter?
Ariel.

richardlai said:
The stuttering problem seems to be permanent now... Luckily I have a HP hx4700 (which has a Broadcom bluetooth module) and works perfectly with my Jabra HT620s. Anyone using an A2DP ROM other than Qtek? I'd like to try a different ROM to see if it would make a difference.
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I use the BT620s with my Qtek 9000 without much trouble. Here's the trick:
Assuming you have paired with succes. Set headset and BT OFF before starting.
Turn bluetooth ON
wait a second or two
Turn headset ON
wait another two seconds
Now go to BT settings, and connect the headset.
Wait for the little pling sound (the activesync sound ).
Now start Windows Media Player and play an MP3.
Using this sequence has never failed me
edit:
I use the latest OFFICIAL Qtek 9000 WWE ROM. (Without the ExtROM though ) And i did not use any patches regarding A2DP or Bluetooth.

this is what i tried, many times. i get the activesync sound, sometimes from the speakers, sometimes in the headset, but almost always only one second of sound afterwards.
i found that by pairing the headset to the universal by pressing and holding the green button on the headset untill the universal recognises (doesn't take long) gives better results.
pairing it by the instructions of the headset (putting it in discover mode, and then searching for a device with the universal) will give me the one second sound almost every time.

Biffert said:
I use the BT620s with my Qtek 9000 without much trouble. Here's the trick:
Assuming you have paired with succes. Set headset and BT OFF before starting.
Turn bluetooth ON
wait a second or two
Turn headset ON
wait another two seconds
Now go to BT settings, and connect the headset.
Wait for the little pling sound (the activesync sound ).
Now start Windows Media Player and play an MP3.
Using this sequence has never failed me
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Well, this has ALWAYS been the sequence I use (and I don't think you can do it in any other way). The real problem here is either the buffer memory or processor load.

richardlai said:
Biffert said:
I use the BT620s with my Qtek 9000 without much trouble. Here's the trick:
Assuming you have paired with succes. Set headset and BT OFF before starting.
Turn bluetooth ON
wait a second or two
Turn headset ON
wait another two seconds
Now go to BT settings, and connect the headset.
Wait for the little pling sound (the activesync sound ).
Now start Windows Media Player and play an MP3.
Using this sequence has never failed me
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Well, this has ALWAYS been the sequence I use (and I don't think you can do it in any other way). The real problem here is either the buffer memory or processor load.
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Then there is no A2DP problem, the only solution is to lower the overal systemload. Stop all programs you have running, disable every today plugin that need frequent updating (memory, battery meters etc.) Free up as much RAM as you possibly can. I have AT LEAST 16 mb RAM free when playing music via BT.

Got a live view today....(very smal review..)

So folks,
today the sony ericsson live view arrived. It´s quite cheap in germany (42 euro).
The package contains:
Live View
Wrist strap
Clip
Charger (mini USB, also loads the phone it you want to!)
Manuals
So the device is really smal and does what it promises.
I read some bad reviews at amazon.de, but until now it does not seem to be as bad. The connection between the phone and the live view broke up when it was about 3 meters, so that´s OK so far (could be better).
Reading SMS or the other stuff works.
Sportypal Pro does not work. (that´s one of two released apps that have live view support)
Instalation is easy, no problems there.
The clip has broken down after trying to release the live view for the second time.
Can´t say anything about battery life time until now.
But... I would say, thinking about future plugins for 3rd party apps, this litte device can be something really relly cool. I mean, if you have for example a OSM navigation app, that has live view support, you can easily fix that wrist strap on to the handlebar of your bike... and so on...
It also works as a remote for the music player (can be interesting on skies).
But now a little question. What musicplayer is that (pic) ... This musicplayer has to be installed at the phone natively, but i have no link to open it...
Best regards
(sorry for that really bad english, but it´s very late, the day was very long)

I would love to hear more about your live view as time goes on. I see great potentials in this little gizmo. Question; can you pair live view and a bluetooth [email protected] same time?
Also that native music app is available through creating custom shortcut with adw or launcherpro. There's prolly a thread with shortcut apk file somewhere in this forum. Good luck!
Free X10!

just got Live View this morning - actually, not for me, for my wife as she's got an X10. But since she's on T-mobile and they haven't issued their 2.1 update yet, we couldn't try it out on that device but did manage to do so on my HTC Desire.
First impressions of the box/presentations were pretty shoddy. For some reason here in the UK we were issued a 2-pin European plug (suggesting that etraders got their first batch from abroad) rather than a 3-pin one. Lucky I had an adapter at home. And it wasn't even in the box, it was just shoved in a bag in the mail package.
The accessories with the device are very plasticky. You get a wrist strap, a clip (to attach to pockets, bag handles etc) and a watch housing so you can attach it to the wrist strap. Actually getting the damn wrist strap/watch housing connected was very fiddly, took us about 20 minutes of messing around with little metal pins they supply to get it right. Again, why they couldn't have done this themselves is a mystery and making the customer do it is just frustrating.
First impressions of the device itself are decent, the calling/message notifications work well, the screen is large enough that you can read full text messages and you have the option to mute/reject calls when they come in.
Couple of annoying things: it does seem to lose its pairing fairly easily, maybe it's because we're using the Desire at the moment and not the X10 but I'm not sure. Also, the notification light (e.g. it flashes green if there is a message) doesn't last very long, just a few seconds, it would make more sense if it kept on flashing until you viewed the message.
Oh, one more annoying thing. If you lose the pairing, the watch can't show the time since it takes the time from the phone. My wife wouldn't mind using this as a watch as well, but she would need to have the phone with her all the time and paired up if that was the case. Again, not terribly practical.
there is potential though, the idea of plug-ins is a good one and hopefully there will be a lot of these to expand the functionality of the device.
Will write more once my wife's phone gets the update and is connected.

please look at that can print incoming calls, whether the caller's name

Yes, it does

mr.valacky said:
please look at that can print incoming calls, whether the caller's name
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Yes, it does

What is the battery life like?

Anyone tried it together with eg. the MW600 bt headset ??
- can both devices work with the phone at the same time ??

sry I don´t have a second bt device.
battery life will be tested this week.

pshdo said:
Anyone tried it together with eg. the MW600 bt headset ??
- can both devices work with the phone at the same time ??
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Couldn't try it with the MW600, but was able to test it with another stereo headset, the HB205 (Sony Ericsson). Worked fine no problem, tried calling the phone and the headphones stopped the music and rang the tone while the Liveview displayed the name/number and vibrated. I would imagine it would be the same for other bluetooth headsets.

dreadnought001 said:
Yes, it does
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thank you!

Thank you...
Sent from my Commodore 64, with Dolphin Dos B-)

Just to clarify, The liveview doesn't lose the time if it disconnects, it loses the time if you then turn it off completely (therefore resetting it).
In fact last night I went to find it to charge it as I only wear it at work, and I pressed the button and it was saying 1.06 am, and i hadn't even had my bluetooth on let alone had the thing near my phone.
Same thing with some of the connection issues, sometimes it goes wrong completely, but depending on what you do in certain situations, you can reconnect quickly.
The problem is SE haven't spelt these out, even pairing the thing in the first place was a nightmare, I had it for 48 mins and couldn't even use it, as i didn't know all the delicate things about it when things don't work. Couldn't really give this to someone as a gift as a casual user, may effect sales until they get the app working better. But I am okay with it now and its doing what I need it to do, and lasting the day.

protorix said:
It also works as a remote for the music player (can be interesting on skies).
But now a little question. What musicplayer is that (pic) ... This musicplayer has to be installed at the phone natively, but i have no link to open it...
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It seems to me the native Android media player, can someone confirm? The odd thing is that I haven't found a way to start this media player stand alone...
I'm actually disappointed that the supported media player isn't Mediascape, so I can't start music from phone and then switch to Liveview!

Can confirm that supported music player is Android native player, which is a real bummer as I use mediascape for all my music. To activate, simply depress right button on liveview for 2-3 seconds.

I bought one today at a Telenor shop in Stockholm. It cost me 567SEK (60 EUROS) and I would recommend no one pays more than that for a LiveView in Sweden.
I agree with all the previous reviews. It does what it says on the tin ! But it is not ready yet to gift to your girlfriend for Christmas... The strap and holder are cheap plastic and I managed to bend one of the mounting pins whilst carefully trying to put it all together, if they had assembled the watchstrap before-hand it would have saved alot of problems. The instruction manual gave no direction on this at all ! If anything, the single diagram of the watchstrap was misleading.
The LiveView is smaller than expected, if anything it is too small and I wouldn't have complained if it was a little larger and 'styled' somewhat. It's the sort of thing that (and I hope SE have registered patents !!!) SonyEricsson could sell the LiveView module to a proper watch manufacturer like Seiko who could make something more stylish out of it. As it is, it is a small, square bit of plastic which performs some functions but is clearly capable of much more.
This is one of those things that you think is a good idea, but far too early for release. I can promise you that you will all be wearing a 'LiveView' type device in five years time.... But the current version is really still on the geek/hacker level.
But I do hope this does result in some interesting apps in the next few months.
My current, major technical concern with LiveView is that if it is more than 2 metres away from my X10 then it loses connection. My Bluetooth headset can easily manage 5 metres and so should LiveView. But it does manage to automatically reconnect to my X10 when in range, but it leaves the "Find my phone" application pretty useless.

lornova said:
It seems to me the native Android media player, can someone confirm? The odd thing is that I haven't found a way to start this media player stand alone...
I'm actually disappointed that the supported media player isn't Mediascape, so I can't start music from phone and then switch to Liveview!
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adw installed
long touch on an empty field
"other shortcut"
"chose activity"
"activitys"
"music" / "gallery"

so whats the definitive answer on the mw600 connected at the same time as liveview ?! can both be used at the same time ?!
can u listen to music whilst reading texts emails etc !? ...ie both devices connected at the same time without disconnection (i can cope with the calls being halted or an odd stall when i get a text but if both cannot be used at the same time then it defeats the object of having wireless devices with the bluetooth headphones and the liveview to control it!

I can confirm that LiveView and Mw600 can work together, at the same time with no problem !

dreadnought001 said:
Couldn't try it with the MW600, but was able to test it with another stereo headset, the HB205 (Sony Ericsson). Worked fine no problem, tried calling the phone and the headphones stopped the music and rang the tone while the Liveview displayed the name/number and vibrated. I would imagine it would be the same for other bluetooth headsets.
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I can confirm that LiveView and Mw600 can work together, at the same time with no problem !
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Cheers to you both for answering a question I've been trying in vain to get SonyEricsson Support (useless) to answer for me.