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((((9 REASONS WHY PDA2K IS A TERRIBLE MACHINE! ))))

THE PDA2K is a TERRIBLE MACHINE!
SSSoo many bugs....
1) BLUETOOTH JUNK
Bluetooth (after their so called patch), still headset causes it to turn on repeatedly draining your battery in no time. So unless you are connected to a powersupply, the bluetooth headset is useless cause I have to turn off the bluetooth anyway (if I want battery). Yes, I know it's been discussed many times, it still amazes me everyday.
2) ALBUM MOVIE PLAYER DOESN'T WORK AFTER BLUETOOTH PATCH
yep, I've made many tests, clean hardreset machine with no bt patch = I can record video and playback video (MP4) with no problem. Now after installing the BT patch, clicking on the ALBUM app or clicking on PREVIEW after fliming a video in mp4 will freeze the machine for about 5 seconds, and then soft reset it automatically. I've hard reseted twice to check and it's obvious the BT patch ruins it. Mysteriously, it sometimes does work even after the patch. I just wanted to show off my machine today and got laughed at (with good reason!) by a P900 user.
3) CASE IS USELESS
The case that comes with the machine is a joke, it pressed all the buttons even if you almost don't touch the case. They should have left alittle padding. Locking the keys is a must.
4) MORE BLUETOOTH ISSUES
I get repeatable bizzare errors of "memory problems" with bluetooth, and I need to reset the machine (ain't it great?). I also got twice a message about my BT expired.. LMAO. more resets. I actually thing about mapping one of the primary front keys to do a soft-reset.
5) BUILT-IN FAX SOFTWARE IS RUBBISH
A friend of mine tried it numerous times with no success. At clubimate they told him it doesn't work properly. (So why the hell did they put it there?)
6) POWER BUTTON TOO NEAR THE STYLUS
Happened to me several times that when I try to pull out the stylus, it pressed the power button and poweroff the machine. (bad human engineering here)
7) MORE BLUETOOTH MANIA
Amazingly the BT Headset (I tried 3 different models) cannot function for voice recognition, recording or hearing prompts. Seems the driver doesn't support it. If it did, the voice recognition with my Logitech new headset could have been better. Car BT hands-free also don't work for anything else than strictly during a conversation. I almost purchased a Motoroal Handfree BT Car set because I thought I could also use to hear navigation with my GPS Navigation software. I can't gear prompts cause again, it only functions during the conversation, lously.
8) TERRIBLE MICROPHONE DURING CONVERSATION
I've had several people complaining about not hearing me at all while I use the PDA2K directly (no BT headset). I have to should and hold the machine funny close to my mouth. Oh, and setting the microphone AGC gain control to Enable, does NOTHING for increasing microphone sensitivity, it only works for voice recording/notes taking.
9) OK, SO AT LEAST SET THE MICROPHONE AGC ENABLE FOR NOTES TAKING RIGHT? WRONG!
For taking voice notes or recording conversation, setting the microphone to AGC is a must or else you will hear almost nothing. So you Enable it out of no choice... But OOPS.. Now you find out the Voice Recognition software (Both Microsoft Voice Command or Fonix Voice Central) will disable it back, voice recognition software don't work well with the AGC gain enable. So.. you have to choose here Notes taking? Or voice recognition?
I have the machine just about two weeks and already got tired of it. It is a game, it's not a professional machine that you can actually work flawlessly with. Like a delicate toy, far from being a sturdy trusted pocket pc. Don't get me wrong, I'm a gadget freak, and I am willing to 'eat it up and shut up' but this is just to much. I've had a Cassiopeia E-125 for 4 years !!!! And Wwoooff.. ONLY now I can truly appreciate the Casio, 4 years and worked perfectly even though I dropped it many times, slept on it once, hit it by mistake and so on. Never failed me, and I didn't even knew what the Reset button looked like!
I'm truly disappointed... You get many features, but you pay the price of total instability and absolutly horrible amature like support from the HTC guys. No matter how many bugs other can find on iPaqs such as the 6315, I doubt it can reach to the extent this machine has.
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Well, since 3 of your 9 are bluetooth and 1 is the case, I think that says good things for the phone that you couldn't come up with any more...
I have the Sprint PPC-6601, which is basically the same phone with no wifi, but with fast 'vision' internet access...
I notice the bluetooth issues too. I have the zenphone profilier, and only turn bluetooth on when I am actually using it, in the car, for instance...
Other than that, I haven't had your issues. Power button seems fine to me. Callers report hearing me loud and clear, and I can hear them extremely well (it's the first phone I've had that can be made 'too' loud...)
Fax/Album/Recording. Haven't tried the fax. I use Resco for Album and recording, as the internal apps are really just 'lite' programs.
For my money, this is a great phone, and I'm very happy. Will be 100% when the get bluetooth working properly..
- Regards,
Ben

ben1000 said:
Well, since 3 of your 9 are bluetooth and 1 is the case, I think that says good things for the phone that you couldn't come up with any more...
I have the Sprint PPC-6601, which is basically the same phone with no wifi, but with fast 'vision' internet access...
I notice the bluetooth issues too. I have the zenphone profilier, and only turn bluetooth on when I am actually using it, in the car, for instance...
Other than that, I haven't had your issues. Power button seems fine to me. Callers report hearing me loud and clear, and I can hear them extremely well (it's the first phone I've had that can be made 'too' loud...)
Fax/Album/Recording. Haven't tried the fax. I use Resco for Album and recording, as the internal apps are really just 'lite' programs.
For my money, this is a great phone, and I'm very happy. Will be 100% when the get bluetooth working properly..
- Regards,
Ben
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Actually, I found dozens of similar complaints at the clubimate forums (as well as here) In particular, the so many BT complaints, microphone. I've used WINCE ever since it was version 2 16-gray scal on an old casio with 8mb of ram (gee that's history), I just wish HTC could have made a good job of actually making all the features work. The potential is super, and I guess (and hope) that most of the bug can easily be fixed with a decent programmatical procedures. You'll see dozens of complaints at the clubimate forums, lots of disappointed customers. Only HTCs fault for not making enough QA (or some say none)

To use the fax you have to have it enabled by your mobile provider (if they provide it at all)
You sound frustrated....sell it now and move on... Oh thats right there is NOTHING else like it out there.
When they get the bluetooth issues solved (and Im sure they will) you can then rebuy it.

BlueTooth is going to stuck until Microsoft can integrate a decent stack into the OS. It shouldn't be the job of the phone manufacturer to have to do that.

But it should be their job to properly QA it prior to selling it to their customer base.

Hi
I see all your issues and a load more. This device has the capability to be excellent. I hope that they fix the bugs promptly, and that the manufacturers take the bug fixes, and release appropriate updates shortly after.
Currently, O2 are sending out standard replies to all queries regarding this device (O2 XDA IIs) basically they say 'if you're not happy, send it back for a refund'. This is exactly the same as I got when I phoned them.
They keep offering to replace it, but that will not help to solve a software issue!
They did (eventually) fix most of the issues on the XDA II (although bluetooth still does not work correctly on that device either). I hope that the IIs gets the same treatment (with working bluetooth as well!)
Perhaps we should just ignore new releases, run 1 release behind... When the XDA 4 comes out, buy the 3, buy the 4 when they ship the 5 !!
We, the consumer are partly responsible for the manufacturers rushing products to market well before they are ready I suppose.
I checked out the reviews of the XDA IIs (and its friends) before I bought it, they did not have a bad word to say about it. All I can think is that the reviewers, either A) never even clapped eyes on the device, or B) never used it in anger, or C) were only allowed to review it if they said nice things about it. If I had seen a review that listed all the problems, then I would have waited a while --> and probably bought the Motorola MPx instead (which is probably just as bad, and ships with a *stupid* 32MB memory!!)
Nigel

I wish more companies were like Nebula-Electronics.com They released a freeview card 2 years ago, and have been improving upon the software ever since and offering it to customers for free. Their releases are spot on, they respond to bug reports, and they *beta* test the software with end users before they actually release the new version.
The nebula is is the best bit of software/hardware that I have ever bought... Unfortunately, most companies are not like nebula and simply move onto new hardware products without first having fixed the issues in old products.
Nigel

I bought a PDA2k from eXpansys USA, and was NOT able to repro the problem with the video camera. I was able to take video and play it back without any problems at all.
Perhaps you have a truly defective unit. Can you try returning it under warranty?

When the MPX finally ships, (which must be soon as Motorola have finally officially announced it last week and said it will be available to Asian markets this month and Europe Q1 2005) I think we're really going to see what a buggy device can be. I can't see that it's possible to run any software concurrently with wifi or bluetooth with only 32Mb of RAM and wm2003se taking up more than a third of that from bootup.
Still, the form factor is the appeal of the MPX and I can't wait to get one.

Galaxy S2 with Parrot MKi9200 Handsfree

OK, first post here, but I think it's a useful one!!
Collected a Galaxy S2 on Monday night from the 3 store in the Trafford Centre. Absolutely love it!, fantastic handset.
Or so I thought until last night.....
This was the only bugbear/issue that the phone gave me and gave me no end of grief; I paired it with my Parrot 9200 Car Kit, as with any other phone. All seemed to be well.
That was until I tried to make a call. When I pressed the green button on the handsfree to initiate voice dialling, android launched the "Voice Commands" program, which tried to take over. Unfortunately, the voice commands program required a little bit of interaction with the phone, and wasn't particularly accurate over bluetooth.
Tried deleting and re-pairing, turning off voice commands over bluetooth, which just bypassed the hands free mic, to the handset!!. Grief grief grief.
OK, I thought, I'll just manually select the numbers on the car kit. A bit of a ballache, but it'll do!
Wrong, the phonebook hadn't downloaded, and no amount of tweaking the car kit or the phone could sort it.
There was very limited info on this, hence the reason for this post!
After much googling, I found that the latest version of the Parrot firmware had an additional pairing setting; "Force AT Sync".
So, car kit updated with the latest firmware from the Parrot website, on the car kit, I navigated to Settings>Bluetooth Settings> Pair With> Force AT Sync. (This is at the bottom of the list of phones that the kit "knows" about by default.
Seconds later, my phone was requesting permission for the car kit to access the phone book, and syncing away nicely.
No more voice commands software, and the Parrot kit is working as it should, completely hands free!
Cheers
Tim

Thanks for the info on this. I'm thinking about getting the same kit, can I ask what the sound quality is like through Bluetooth?

Update:
I've just had an MKi9200 fitted. Only had a couple of hours to play with it but so far I'm delighted.
Feel free to ask questions.

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Update:
I've just had an MKi9200 fitted. Only had a couple of hours to play with it but so far I'm delighted.
Feel free to ask questions.
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Does it work?

Yep, works really well.
Phone calls are very clear for both parties and (to me at least) the bluetooth music sound quality is really good. It's not a top of the line speaker system but it's clear and the volume is adequate.
It cuts in with the sat nav directions nicely. I had a bluetooth headunit before and if I had the phone connected the directions wouldn't interrupt a cd or radio. This works just fine, even if I'm listening to the radio through the stereo, the directions still come through.
I've not tried using the other sound connections yet, iPod, USB stick, aux jack or SD Card. I'll try them all over the next couple of days.
I'm thinking about taking the SD card out of the phone and using that way as it only lets you move the tracks foreward and backwards on a playlist or album if you use bluetooth. You have to use the phone to select another artist or album etc. Also, an SD card would let you see the album art and display the track details on the Parrot screen.
The only thing that isn't working correctly at present is that the remote won't skip tracks if the music player isn't displayed on the phone. If I have the sat nav screen up the track forward and backward keys are ignored.
I'm just going out to update the software though so this might fix that.
Anything else you need to know?

Right, I've updated the software which was really painless.
The sat nav stopping the track controls from working only happens in Co Pilot, not in Google Navigation.
I tried using my SD card from my phone in holder and it didn't seem to pick it up. I might need to leave it in longer (about 28 gig of music on it) or it might be that the card is too large at 32GB. The Parrot website says that there is no limit to card size but that sounds a bit optimistic to me.
Other than that though, I'm delighted so far.

I've got one of these too. Great bit of kit. I did notice a tweak in the VillainRom thread that ups the Bluetooth audio quality, if that's how you're using it. Haven't tried it yet myself.
One thing I have noticed is it's a bit hit and miss when play and pause work. I could never get into the car and press play, and just have it resume the last thing that was playing (usually BeyondPod). In the end I set Tasker up to automatically start playing when Bluetooth connects. Job done.
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dan13l said:
I've got one of these too. Great bit of kit. I did notice a tweak in the VillainRom thread that ups the Bluetooth audio quality, if that's how you're using it. Haven't tried it yet myself.
One thing I have noticed is it's a bit hit and miss when play and pause work. I could never get into the car and press play, and just have it resume the last thing that was playing (usually BeyondPod). In the end I set Tasker up to automatically start playing when Bluetooth connects. Job done.
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Could you post a link to that thread? I have a Mki9200 myself and would be very interested to read this.
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Have a look for a post by Faremoney on May 16th in the VillainRom thread over in the dev forum. It's to do with altering the Bluetooth bitpool. I'd link, but I don't think I can from the app.
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dan13l said:
Have a look for a post by Faremoney on May 16th in the VillainRom thread over in the dev forum. It's to do with altering the Bluetooth bitpool. I'd link, but I don't think I can from the app.
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Thanks, I'll go searching for it.
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The only annoyance I have now, which is more parrot related is that if I have a usb memory key and sd card connected, even if i had been.listening to music on the sd card, next time I get in the car and press play, it defaults back to the usb.
All in all, the kit is impressive. I bought mine about 18 months ago and gave nearly £300 fitted. A couple of months ago, I bought a kit for my girlfriend, brand new for £110 and fitted it myself in 40 mins!!
Definitely recommended.
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Thanks for this post. It helped me to sync my contact from sgs2 to my parrot 9100.
It works very nice now!

Galaxy SII and Parrot MKi9100
Thanks for the fix - I was getting close to returning the unit - spent an hour or more listening to 'Voice Prompts'! Stick loaded with update and ready to go
Cheers
david

Ordered a second hand unit off ebay for 65 and getting it fitted late this week/early next week.
Has anyone figured out a way to charge the s2 from the iphone connector?

Hi there
Hope all ok with yours. I've been delighted with mine so far.
It does charge off the USB connector, don't need to use the iPhone end. It seems to deliver quite a small charge though so I still use a cigarette lighter socket.
From memory you can set the phone to storage mode and the Parrot kit will read the music contents of the phone but I had trouble with a larger capacity card. I'm happy with the audio quality over Bluetooth so this was the simplest way for me to work.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense or if you have any other questions.
Paul

Working but could be better...
Hi,
I have updated my MKi9200 Parrot software and set the "Force AT Sync". Effectively I don't have the phone voice commands anymore and it is already much better. Thank you for this.
However, I experience some interruptions of sound each time I use the phone (like just checking my mail) or each time an event occurs on the phone (like reception of an email notice or reception of SMS notice). It is not comfortable when listening to music...
Also, I had a much better experience with my Parrot and another phone than SG2. With SG2 + Parrot, sometimes you press the green button on Parrot and you don't get the voice command to dial, sometimes you have a phone ring and you can't take the call when pushing the green button on Parrot, sometimes you can't hang up after a call, sometimes it only works after several attempts of push on a given button.
Well, it is better than before but still not working as it should. Of course, when the Parrot buttons are not responding, I can still get the command right using the phone screen to take the call or hang-up but it is really not safe at all while ones drives his car in the same time...
Has anyone here found a solution first not to get those cuts on phone events?
Has anyone found a better setting to make sure the Parrot buttons are always working with SG2?
Has anyone experienced the same kind of troubles despite the "Force AT Sync" mode is set like on my SG2?
Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for confirming. much appreciated.
pjfriend said:
Hi there
Hope all ok with yours. I've been delighted with mine so far.
It does charge off the USB connector, don't need to use the iPhone end. It seems to deliver quite a small charge though so I still use a cigarette lighter socket.
From memory you can set the phone to storage mode and the Parrot kit will read the music contents of the phone but I had trouble with a larger capacity card. I'm happy with the audio quality over Bluetooth so this was the simplest way for me to work.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense or if you have any other questions.
Paul
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I can't find how to get latest firmware from the parrot website
Your post was interesting but for the life of me I can't work out where to get a newer version of firmware! I have just put in the unit and was dismayed when I called Samsung and was told that I can't put my contacts in it! It seems that you have so I'd love to know where and how you got the firmware you refer to.

You can get it from here http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads

Hi guys, just registered. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 (with 2.3.5 KI3) and a Parrot LS-3400GPS carkit. It pairs without problems but of course it is a bit limited so I would like to change it with a Parrot MKi9200. I'm reading in many places there are a lot of issues with Android phones. I also wrote di Parrot and they do CONFIRM. But the problem (they say) is not in the carkit sw but in the Android! So strange...
On the parrot forum there are still users with mic issues, contact sync issues and voice command issues, even with the last 1.96 fw.
I've read here that everything works fine using "force at sync".
I understood that it does sync but what about the voice commands? Any problems?
Is there a conflict with the parrot ones?
I'm really confused
Thank You

MW600 Headset Quick Questions

I will try to be brief here
I already searched for my answers but i couldn't find all of the answers and some i found,were outdated.
I Bought my MW600 and it arrived yesterday,and i already own a Xperia Arc that i upgraded to 2.3.4 Global Firmware.
1 - I already "paired" it with my Xperia Arc and with my dell xps notebook. Is it possible to,answer phonecalls on it while it is "listening" to notebooks bluetooth ? Is there any sort of "multi-pairing" way to set this device to "listen" to more than one device requests ?
2 - Is there any way that i can make my sound track names to appear ? I've read that it is a limitation of the android bluetooth system, is it true ? I can't see any track id when i play musics,just a blank space.
3 - Same above,but for contact names. Still androids limitation ?
4 - Flashing CM could fix it somehow ? (i´ve also read it,but since no one confirmed...).
5 - When listening to radio,i´ve seen in videos that the music name appears in the screen. Well, here in brasil, it seems not to work. Any idea of why ?
6 - The sound quality when listening to music thats playing on my notebook is very low. Is there any way to increase it ? (Windows 7 ) How?
7 - Most important question. How to use the damn Phones correctly cliping it to my cloth,as a man. All S.E videos of MW600, it is cliped to hot woman dresses or something like that. But since i am not a woman, i can't clip it to my shirts,without looking like an idiot with a microfone glued to my neck tangled with the earphones wires around my neck.
Please, upload a photo of how you look when using it,so i can't stop laughing at myself! hahaha
Thanks !

hi marcelloLins
1 - I already "paired" it with my Xperia Arc and with my dell xps notebook. Is it possible to,answer phonecalls on it while it is "listening" to notebooks bluetooth ? Is there any sort of "multi-pairing" way to set this device to "listen" to more than one device requests ? no
2 - Is there any way that i can make my sound track names to appear ? I've read that it is a limitation of the android bluetooth system, is it true ? I can't see any track id when i play musics,just a blank space. .if youre using notebook or laptop ,it show the track name tested on mine .
3 - Same above,but for contact names. Still androids limitation ? yah only phone number are shown in MW600
4 - Flashing CM could fix it somehow ? (i´ve also read it,but since no one confirmed...). not possible even though SEUS only liveview can Update
5 - When listening to radio,i´ve seen in videos that the music name appears in the screen. Well, here in brasil, it seems not to work. Any idea of why ? im not using radio i dnt knw no idea
6 - Most important question. How to use the damn Phones correctly cliping it to my cloth,as a man. All S.E videos of MW600, it is cliped to hot woman dresses or something like that. But since i am not a woman, i can't clip it to my shirts,without looking like an idiot with a microfone glued to my neck tangled with the earphones wires around my neck. hahahh depends on you! cause mine im using Sennheizer CX300 II clip it in jeans pocket
cheers enjoy ! i like MW600 lovely

marcelloLins said:
1 - I already "paired" it with my Xperia Arc and with my dell xps notebook. Is it possible to,answer phonecalls on it while it is "listening" to notebooks bluetooth ? Is there any sort of "multi-pairing" way to set this device to "listen" to more than one device requests ?
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1, hold the call button and connect it to your phone, and hold the play button to connect it to your laptop. when you get a call it stops playing from your laptop.

AwesomeAHlee said:
1, hold the call button and connect it to your phone, and hold the play button to connect it to your laptop. when you get a call it stops playing from your laptop.
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Many thanks,i will try it later !

marcelloLins said:
Many thanks,i will try it later !
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did it work for you?

^ it works for me! didn't know the mw600 could do that. thanks for the tip.
2 - Is there any way that i can make my sound track names to appear ? I've read that it is a limitation of the android bluetooth system, is it true ? I can't see any track id when i play musics,just a blank space.
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if you flash to a CyanogenMod (CM) firmware, it will allow track names to appear on the mw600's display. stock gingerbread still doesn't support it but i hope this gets enabled in ICS.
3 - Same above,but for contact names. Still androids limitation ?
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unlike track names, it seems contact names don't show on CM firmware. it only shows the phone number during incoming calls (if caller ID is available) and shows an arrow on the screen during outgoing calls.
4 - Flashing CM could fix it somehow ? (i´ve also read it,but since no one confirmed...).
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as stated above, yes.
5 - When listening to radio,
i´ve seen in videos that the music name appears in the screen. Well, here in brasil, it seems not to work. Any idea of why ?
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it's a feature called RDS if i recall correctly. the station that you're listening to has to feature it as well. here in Canada, almost all stations feature RDS.
6 - The sound quality when listening to music thats playing on my notebook is very low. Is there any way to increase it ? (Windows 7 ) How?
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right-click on the volume icon in the system tray, and click on playback devices. then right-click on the bluetooth playback device, and click on Properties. check the enhancements tab to see if there is a Loudness feature. this might just be a feature available for speakers/headphones directly connected to the headphone jack. i've never seen it available for a bluetooth device.
7 - Most important question. How to use the damn Phones correctly cliping it to my cloth,as a man. All S.E videos of MW600, it is cliped to hot woman dresses or something like that. But since i am not a woman, i can't clip it to my shirts,without looking like an idiot with a microfone glued to my neck tangled with the earphones wires around my neck.
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unless i'm wearing a polo with a chest pocket, i use my other set of earphones with a longer cord where I have the cord running inside my shirt with the mw600 in my pant's pocket. sometimes i clip it on the belt loop of my jeans or on my rear pocket for easy access to the buttons depending if i'm walking, sitting, etc.

Lumia SMS text message read out loud in car

Just found out that when my phone is sync with my car bluetooth, it allows my unit to read incoming sms without look at the phone.
Pretty neat feature! It didn't have this on my iphone 4 nor sony ericsson arc s!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWTsfTlGxU
ignore the side view, apparently i dont know how to record videos on my sony ericsson arc s lol.

sifusky said:
Just found out that when my phone is sync with my car bluetooth, it allows my unit to read incoming sms without look at the phone.
Pretty neat feature! It didn't have this on my iphone 4 nor sony ericsson arc s!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWTsfTlGxU&feature=youtu.be
ignore the side view, apparently i dont know how to record videos on my sony ericsson arc s lol.
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Pretty cool, but I can't get the phone to hear me, LOL. While I can of course converse through my car's bluetooth, I don't think it has a "listen" option if not in a call. Going to keep testing.

the cool part is that it reads the name of the person who sent you the message.

sifusky said:
Just found out that when my phone is sync with my car bluetooth, it allows my unit to read incoming sms without look at the phone.
Pretty neat feature! It didn't have this on my iphone 4 nor sony ericsson arc s!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWTsfTlGxU&feature=youtu.be
ignore the side view, apparently i dont know how to record videos on my sony ericsson arc s lol.
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The first time it did this last Friday, I almost dumped a load. It scared me. I can't get mine to initiate a message, but listen and reply is not a problem.

alodar1 said:
The first time it did this last Friday, I almost dumped a load. It scared me. I can't get mine to initiate a message, but listen and reply is not a problem.
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Yeah I was driving and all of a sudden it pop up asking me if i want to hear it lol. Surprise indeed.

You have to hold down the home button then it will start listening then just say text then the name

If its stereo bluetooth, it will read it out and listen via the phones microphone. If its handsfree bluetooth, it will listen via the bluetooth device's microphone.
Also if you are using handfree bluetooth, hold the call button on the device and it will start the voice recognition on a WP7.
Settings are under "speech" in the settings app.

I used this feature in class all the time lmao. I had a Bluetooth earpiece and it would read the messages to me. Of course I couldn't reply else the instructor would hear me.
But I also am planning to implement this feature in my car. My head unit is Bluetooth capable so I believe I need to purchase a receiver for it. Hopefully the MIC comes with the receiver! Would be a very convenient feature indeed!
Question: If you have music playing, does it fade the music into the background so you can hear the text?

Nissan350 said:
I used this feature in class all the time lmao. I had a Bluetooth earpiece and it would read the messages to me. Of course I couldn't reply else the instructor would hear me.
But I also am planning to implement this feature in my car. My head unit is Bluetooth capable so I believe I need to purchase a receiver for it. Hopefully the MIC comes with the receiver! Would be a very convenient feature indeed!
Question: If you have music playing, does it fade the music into the background so you can hear the text?
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yes, the music will pause when the voice prompt comes up.
you can also set this to be always on, on when connected to BT, or on when connected to a headset.
i have an aux in in my head unit, and it works pretty well, the reading goes through my speakers and the phone uses its mic to hear me. it's pretty spotty with listening to me when the windows are down, but otherwise it works great to send a quick reply without manually texting.

Yes the music will be paused, if you notice my video, I have a DVD playing and it pauses it to pop up the message. Once I read it or ignore it, it resume back to DVD.

adiliyo said:
yes, the music will pause when the voice prompt comes up.
you can also set this to be always on, on when connected to BT, or on when connected to a headset.
i have an aux in in my head unit, and it works pretty well, the reading goes through my speakers and the phone uses its mic to hear me. it's pretty spotty with listening to me when the windows are down, but otherwise it works great to send a quick reply without manually texting.
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I also have Aux but never thought to try it through that. Guess I have something to do now!
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Yes the music will be paused, if you notice my video, I have a DVD playing and it pauses it to pop up the message. Once I read it or ignore it, it resume back to DVD.
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Ahh, IDK how I missed that link lol.

I use a bluetooth to Radio transmitter. The Motorola one is nice but I had to run "antenna" wires to my visor where it clips to get the best radio reception. I have use the
Motorola:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...QJJCzQRZNnA6udm6w&sig2=NvwWutkO_Fez31lWmMUVyw
and the Jabra Cruiser 2
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-CRUISER...ACKAGING/dp/B006FK8CKY/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_2_0
The cruiser 2 DOES NOT have remote control buttons like the original cruiser or the motorola
I like them both for doing all the bluetooth functions but REALLY miss the built in remote control buttons for pausing/starting music or skipping back/forward.
I got the Jabra on eBay for $20 refurbished. They both have their quirks. The jabra on /off is a slide switch on the side whereas the motorola is in the back and you have to hold it for a few seconds. REALLY annoying. If you don't stream music or are out of a call for like 10 minutes it will shut off.
The jabra is easier to get the exact station you want it to be on. The motorola will scan and tell you what to tune.

Yes the texting can be read to you if you are connected to bluetooth. Has been a feature on Windows Phone from day one (back in 2010). You can also say reply, and then you can say your message. It will dectect when you are finished and then you can say retry to redo the message or say send and it will send out the text message. Hands free texting on bluethooth is pretty neat feature.

Lol...that's an acura TL you driving right? I have the same setup....without the K drama...nice!!!!

johnnybrav0 said:
Lol...that's an acura TL you driving right? I have the same setup....without the K drama...nice!!!!
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Yep haha. This is my first window based phone so i find it neat to have this feature. A nice extra surprise haha

This feature alone was worth the price of admission. I don't know why Nokia/Microsoft don't do a commercial with this feature front and center. With all the hub-bub about Siri, etc., this bluetooth, text to speech for SMS is awesome.
I used it in my Xterra with an aftermarket Kenwood deck with Bluetooth and it was stellar. I also used it with my Jawbone and had a great time replying to SMS messages with it connected.
I have had the Galaxy S, many iPhones, and the HD7 on TMobile and none of those phones had this feature.
They really ought to play this up.
TB

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I have had the Galaxy S, many iPhones, and the HD7 on TMobile and none of those phones had this feature.
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I'm pretty sure your HD7 has this feature as well. This is not a Nokia unique feature but rather WP7 feature.
There are many nifty features that WP7 implemented well. Microsoft just doesn't know how to market them. Period. If MS has half the marketing talent of Apple, WP7 should already be No.2 in the smartphone market now.

sifusky said:
Just found out that when my phone is sync with my car bluetooth, it allows my unit to read incoming sms without look at the phone.
Pretty neat feature! It didn't have this on my iphone 4 nor sony ericsson arc s!
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This is a standard feature in WP7, one of the best if you ask me that I hope they are planning on extending. I use it all the time, if you are able to initiate the phone from you're care you can also sent text messages by saying "text <Name> on mobile" like you would a call. It's also smart enough to translate things like laughing out loud to LOL. But the odd times when you want to say something like "Go F... yourself" it will translate it to Go !#[email protected] yourself
My brother picked up a Lumia 900 after I showed him the feature so he could hear work texts when he's riding his motorcycle. He extended the feature by getting his provider to add a service that sends voice messages to him as text messages so he can hear if someone left him a voice message when he doesn't answer the phone....
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Microsoft just doesn't know how to market them. Period. If MS has half the marketing talent of Apple, WP7 should already be No.2 in the smartphone market now.
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If you're comparing Microsoft to Apple, you should change the word marketing to bullsh.ting in that sentence

Sony Smart Bluetooth Headset SBH50 Review

Hey guys hows it going?
I just purchased one of the new smart bluetooth headsets from Sony which is the SBH50 model and I received it yesterday. Been using it for a day now. Just here to give you a review.
Now first I wasnt sure if it would work the way I assumed originally or if any of the features were compatible with the Xperia S. But bought it anyway as I mainly need it for calls.
As soon as I took it out of the box I immediately touched the headset to the back of my phone and boom. It was connected immediately. Received a notification to download the companion app. Downloaded and thats it. I was soon enough set up ready to go. So simple.
Sound quality is awesome for calls and music. Even the FM radio. The signal for the radio is also good. Unlike on the mw600 where the radio would cut out because the signal was weak.
When you receive a phone call the number pops up on screen with the name, compared to mw600 would be just the number. The notification for text to speech I still havent tested properly however so far seems to be working. I also havent checked the messaging notifications yet however I have seen the email and gmail notifications.pop up on screen.
The multipoint feature is excellent. You can select one device as a primary device and still receive notifcations from both devices and listen to music from the other.
The battery life is also amazing. Switched it on at 7 am and its still on id say about 75%. Most of thr battery has been consumed by me listening to the fm radio this morning.
Oh and there is an option to view your call log on the device too which is quite nice, especially if you want to ring back a number in the call list.
Build quality is very good I found. Feels slightly plasticy but good quality. Not the cheap plastic feel.
Theres a lot more which can be covered and I will add to this review the more I get to know the device and its features.
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Got mine as well few days ago. Lost mw600. Not sure what Sony is thinking with 'smart' range as it regresses, since any bluetooth ever, had double click to redial and long press to voice dial. These, including mw1 are missing those functions. Also in comparison with mw600 now we need app to display contacts (sure not it shows names as well), but permanent ongoing notification in status bar and notifications kills this softaware for me.
As long as it does not allow me to change button options and setup, this smart bluetooth is not gonna be 'simply smart' for the foreseeable future. Opening api for Devs might help.
Also don't understand why bluetooth with basically same features, sans NFC, as mw600, is 30 percent larger in volume, while offering same talk/music times as it.
Rant over!
Basically, only reason I'm keeping it is because of possibility of firmware updates (if mw600 had this it wouldn't be obsolete yet and would buy again. Than again that company does not exist anymore) , making it somewhat future proof. This only applies if Sony keeps their end of the bargain.
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I got one of these in the mail this week for my Xperia Z.
I was after a bluetooth unit with a 3.5mm output so i could hook it up to my Logitech Z2300 and control the music from my phone. Works well, only the bluetooth range is up to approx 15m line of sight. It'll do for my home entertaining.
I havent tried yet, but if i can connect my pc to it via BT as well i can play the songs off there too.
I dont really see the need for NFC since pairing with BT is simple enough.
Firmware can be updated on it via SUS.
The instruction manual included doesnt have any operating instructions. Im not 100% sure what the icons in the menu means.
Its very light if youre gonna clip it to your clothing, but to handle it is a little tricky cos it is too light.
Ive seen the Pro version of this, with usb on the end of it, so it can be used as standalone mp3 player. Wish i had seen that earlier.

The only thing I cant get it to do is connect to skype on my nexus 7 1st gen or on my xperia s
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MW1 is better cause of card slot. The new one is cool though.

you can use it while it is connected to a power supply?

Yes.. it works

Use with Skype
rkanwar said:
The only thing I cant get it to do is connect to skype on my nexus 7 1st gen or on my xperia s
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I had no problems using this headset with Skype on my Xperia Z1 and Razr HD
Some phones have settings in the Skype menu to use Bluetooth. Check the settings in the Skype menu.
Hope that helps

Any one used the SBH52?

whatup
dear all
is there are app for whats up notifaction
thanks

Use the whatsapp notifier app from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25785522
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Help me
Jaguar4u said:
I had no problems using this headset with Skype on my Xperia Z1 and Razr HD
Some phones have settings in the Skype menu to use Bluetooth. Check the settings in the Skype menu.
Hope that helps
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I could pair with my motorola razr hd, someone help me

Idan73 said:
Got mine as well few days ago. Lost mw600. Not sure what Sony is thinking with 'smart' range as it regresses, since any bluetooth ever, had double click to redial and long press to voice dial. These, including mw1 are missing those functions. Also in comparison with mw600 now we need app to display contacts (sure not it shows names as well), but permanent ongoing notification in status bar and notifications kills this softaware for me.
As long as it does not allow me to change button options and setup, this smart bluetooth is not gonna be 'simply smart' for the foreseeable future. Opening api for Devs might help.
Also don't understand why bluetooth with basically same features, sans NFC, as mw600, is 30 percent larger in volume, while offering same talk/music times as it.
Rant over!
Basically, only reason I'm keeping it is because of possibility of firmware updates (if mw600 had this it wouldn't be obsolete yet and would buy again. Than again that company does not exist anymore) , making it somewhat future proof. This only applies if Sony keeps their end of the bargain.
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Well, I am somewhat happy with the SBH50 - I only had the MW600 for a short while before sending it back because of the volume controls.
However, it's terrible that you cannot launch voice dial with the big button (what does it anyway?) and the music controls will launch the standard music app if you hadn't launched a different one on the phone before...
I'm praying that this will become better.

My first one after a few weeks died. Wouldn't switch on at all thankfully Amazon replaced it for me.
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Can anyone confirm the battery life of sbh50 when you only listen to fm radio, with no device connected? how long is it? because I need at least 10h of fm radio at work

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My first one after a few weeks died. Wouldn't switch on at all thankfully Amazon replaced it for me.
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My MW600 stopped working (showing that its charging but not turning on) after a few months so I'm scared to buy another type from Sony. Anyone else ran into problems with the unit not turning on or are you all recommending it?

Overheat2747 said:
My MW600 stopped working (showing that its charging but not turning on) after a few months so I'm scared to buy another type from Sony. Anyone else ran into problems with the unit not turning on or are you all recommending it?
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Personally I'd recommend it. I mean I have had no problems since I got my replacement and the battery life on it is awesome. For me anyway. I was going to purchase the sbh52 but I wasn't too sure about it
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mrsatan said:
MW1 is better cause of card slot. The new one is cool though.
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Will it be working on Xperia acro slt26w

I'm just looking for a replacement for my MW600 (first one got lost, second one got the clip broken and the last one all of a sudden died for no obvious reason ).
Now I already kind of decided to go for the SBH50 but coming across this thread I don't feel so confident any longer..
and the music controls will launch the standard music app if you hadn't launched a different one on the phone before...
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Just to get this right- once you've started another app the buttons will control the playback of this particular app or start the default player instead?? (Which would be horrible since I'm exclusively using Spotify)
And something else which got me confused after having read too many reviews: Does the display turn off while listening/having calls? (The MW600 did and I would prefer it this way.)
And a last question especially for the previous MW600 users: Is the SBH50 comfortable to wear? From the pictures the clip doesn't really look secure to be attached compared with the old model..

114a said:
And something else which got me confused after having read too many reviews: Does the display turn off while listening/having calls? (The MW600 did and I would prefer it this way.)
And a last question especially for the previous MW600 users: Is the SBH50 comfortable to wear? From the pictures the clip doesn't really look secure to be attached compared with the old model..
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Hi there. Yes the display turns off after a few seconds in a call, listening to music or when you stop pressing the buttons.
The clip is comfortable to wear however you will either need to clip it on to the neckline/collar of any top or anywhere along the zip line. You can't just clip it anywhere.
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