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I am using my Hermes as my primary phone, making about 10 phone calls per day, 20 minutes of browsing and PUSH MAIL for one account. I am connected to 3G network with HSDPA support. I am using stock 1300 mAh battery.
I was using Dvha v17 for long time and finishing my day with 40% battery and always thought this is how it should be.
I had some stability issues (lockups) and I have decided to upgrade the ROM.
First, I installed PDACorner v21. Stability of the system was great, no lockups anymore. But, in the middle of the day (about 4pm) my battery was empty. Switching to 2G left me with about 50% of the battery in the end of the day, but I don't like 2G because of the noise it makes to all speakers I am passing by.
Then I installed CRC v13, then PDACorner v23 and still had the same battery life.
This weekend I decided to try Dvha v21 (build 20721) and suddenly my battery is 40% at the end of the day with 3G HSDPA enabled!
On all ROMs I am installing the same set of programs and using the same mail account for push. The only difference is the Dvha is a big storage ROM, while all others I chose NRBSN.
I am always using Advanced Config and enable power management for all possible devices.
I also tried to upgrade radio ROM, but then had to downgrade back to 1.48 which is the best for me. No noticeable change in battery life with different radios.
Switching to 2G will dramatically improve battery life, leaving at least 50% on the end of the day. Disabling push will leave at least 70% on the end of the day.
Can anybody else confirm this? The difference is huge! It's about finish the day or not!
I found some posts saying that with push enabled, charging during the day is normal and usual for some people. I would agree, but now I am holding a device that is able to run all day long on HSDPA and with push enabled! I installed new version Dvha to confirm this.
It could be great if someone will find out what is different in Dvha ROM that improves battery life with push mail so drastically. Other ROMs are still more stable. With the new Dvha version I still have lockups and have to soft-reset at least once a day. I can't afford it with my primary phone. I need 100% stability during the day and I must admit that both PDACorner and CRC NRBSN ROMs are very much stable (thank you, chefs).
P.S. My next experiment will be installing the first non big storage Dvha ROM, which is Dvha v22, build 20748. I want to know if it's related to the big storage.
MRH 8.4 and Faria
I have tested all the ROMS put on successively here. My usage is similar to yours. However, I find Faria Puttingham ROM and MRH 8.4 as best stable roms. CRC gives problems and PDAVIET is just trash for my HERMIS. Rebooting several times means losing data and does not make sense.
Coming to PDA CormerPRO they are as good as MRH. since MRH has stopped development, PDAcoerner is the ROM to stick or just go back to Faria for long battery life. I use HERMIS 300 that is Tmobile MDA vario II. So there may be subtle differences in functioning.
I never got problems with 2G dialer either on my Tmobile MDA. I do not know 3G as this service is not available in my area.
what is the best dialer by the way? that has history and speed dial bottons? thanks
rocksolid
Hmm
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
PS, my day starts at 5 a.m. finishes at 9 p.m.
zocster said:
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
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What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?
ochakov said:
What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?
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My only ROMs so far that I like are CRC and PDA corner on my signature both had the same results
as i known on technical hardware, if we have device an old for 2 years and never change stock battery. we have lost half past more during a day. cause it's not just software related, but hardware also
The main power draws are the old 3G chispset and the backlight on the screen.
Theres only so much you can do with software, this being, as said, a 2year old phone.
1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...
ochakov said:
1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...
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For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's
veyka said:
For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's
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yes I will have to agree with the BS stuff, as with non BS of pda corner and was on CRC's 11.2 I didn't experience any fast draining of what a BS of PCpro or any other roms for that matter.
i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage
tko1 said:
i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage
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As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.
veyka said:
As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.
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good idea, thanks
Power consumption based on storage schema
If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?
After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?
sanfrenchysco said:
If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?
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Arent you too smart not to cook ?
ochakov said:
After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?
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Yep, I hear you mate! That's why I said:"If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the ROM OS image itself.
The part of the OS that makes the most difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed: either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM."
Luckily I have some solutions ... but this will require manual reg. surgery on a per ROM basis until it gets integrated directly in the ROM builds (combination of PwrMgt fixes and ROM access avoidance for the most part).
Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"
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Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"
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Glad to have U on the Hermes forum! This sounds very interesting and Looking forward to your WM OS tweaks knowledge...
anryl said:
Arent you too smart not to cook ?
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You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.
sanfrenchysco said:
You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.
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Would you mind posting up what you have for us to have a play around with?
facts.
US tmobile rom.
100 % battery at 8am from overnight charge.
used config 3.3 for all advized power savings.
no push internet, or anythign like that..weather etc..all basicaly stock.
no running programs..
connected on the EDGE network.
downloaded 5 emails, responded to 1
browsed opera for 5 minutes
used built in youtube to watch a 5 minute vid clip.
youtube vid clip took 30 minutes to download (due to edge speed)
back of phone very warm as if it were ON a charger
now i am at 75% bat life.
info says
0 standby time
0 talk
1 hour 20 min device usage (of which was only what i had above.)
can i get an opinion? or better yet, can someone do the EXACT same thing and if your at 75% after doing what i did?
i just dont feel right about it...it seems yesterday before i got advice about using my wireless... i tried edge today... and it seems to be identical as yesterday... maybe i feel this way because last week i noticed when i was charging in the car and at work via laptop... the charge light kept going out after 10 seconds and flickering even though it was around 70% full...kind of like i feel that i have 25% dead cells or something...
Hi there,
You might want to try this as i remeber reading this in a thread about the battery life of the tp 2. With adv config do not put the power saving settings on for the memory card as for some reason it uses more power.
However if you are not using a mem card then I am not sure.
Hope that helps
yes i did see that, treid both ways.. no change.
I spoke to tmobile yesterday and they are sending me a new battery.
today i turned the phone on at 100% and seen it drop 3 percent in 15 minutes reading 1 text message....
ill know if this is all solved possbily friday, if i get my new battery.
Hi again,
If it helps, still on stock Rom, not used advanced config to configure any power settings, prefer the manual approach of use the reg for anything I feel the need to change.
Been a slow day today with the Rhodium, but here's my stats for you.
Battery currently at 80%, not using the 1% tweak either.
9hrs 38 mins standby since last full charge (left in docking bay overnight)
6 minutes talk time
37 minutes device usage
16GB Sandisk card, HSPL, Stock Rom, Stock Radio, Tmob UK
Bluetooth allways on, though not always connected (Mainly HFP and A2DP usage for in car)
my advice, as posted before, do a hard reset, don't apply any tweaks at all and see how it goes.
I have installed a great deal of apps and quite a few reg enhancements (See my tweaks thread 90% of them are on my device)
manually set to GSM (constant bouncing from HSPDA in my location if not forced, which hammers my charge)
Installed apps,
SPB Mobile Shell & TF3D for UI
Exchange push mail active
TT7, Coreplayer, Skype, TCPMP, FMRadio, DOTFred Taskmanager,MAXTTM TF3D Config, WKTask, PIMBackup, PowerRadio, SPB Radio, SPB TV, MP3 Trimmer, MP3 Alarm, Beastmaster, VoiceCommand, and a *** load of games.
Are you using a wall charger to charge in the evenings or only USB?
How low do you let the device get before charging again.
Normally I would charge whenever possible, charges in the car cradle, charges when docked in the office.
However today I've let stay uncharged all day to monitor just for you mate
Cheers,
Beasty
THANKS.. that does give me some info..
im definatly going to get a new battery..
i will hard reset tonight...
you mention you dont use config 3 for your tweaks, you just go into the reg...
i was thinking that too.. this all seemed to start around the time i installed that program....( i did check the memory card powersave option)
tonight i will hard reset...and try what you do...
appreciate your help...
quick question, since im doing a hard reset and reloading my tmo rom back in to stock.... i read a post where someone said that if you cancle the "extra" instalations during this time, it wont load in the extra tmobile bloatware...
are you familiar with this?
I have also noticed if the notification lights goes blinking or maybe flickers, the battery is consumed more than its usual when it stays off. I do not know why....
loueber said:
THANKS.. that does give me some info..
im definatly going to get a new battery..
i will hard reset tonight...
you mention you dont use config 3 for your tweaks, you just go into the reg...
i was thinking that too.. this all seemed to start around the time i installed that program....( i did check the memory card powersave option)
tonight i will hard reset...and try what you do...
appreciate your help...
quick question, since im doing a hard reset and reloading my tmo rom back in to stock.... i read a post where someone said that if you cancle the "extra" instalations during this time, it wont load in the extra tmobile bloatware...
are you familiar with this?
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Yes,
You used to be able to soft reset during auto config, however I had heard reports that this no longers works on the Rhodium.
Cheers,
Beasty
I noticed that processor intensive stuff like watching videos drains the battery quite fast. I was watching a 2 hour movie and the battery was down by about 50%. So battery killers I noticed so far are:
- Surfing on mobile data connection (just keeping it online but without data transfer seems to have little impact on battery life, so things like push mail or push internet shouldn't drain the battery that much).
- GPS
- Anything CPU / Graphic intensive like Videos, Navigation system.
No surprises here, actually. Apart from that, i have very decent battery life of about 3 days normal usage (little surfing, push mail, push internet, 10 minutes of calls per day and using a few apps (task tracker and a few games .
heres an update...
last night i did what beasty recomended... i hard reset.. installed only icons etc...stopped push internet...opera..etc...
the only thing i DIDNT reinstall was System congif 3.3..
i immediatly noticed a difference in LESS battery drain....
so far, i am leanign towards System config program does something that increases battery drain...
althogh there are a few settings in that program i would like to use, i am very hesitant on reinstalling it as it might cause a problem again...
heres a couple questions for all..
is there any way i can copy MY rom with all the settings programs icons, etc etc.to be able to flash my stuff back? Not just back up my stuff.. but everything i done..so if i ever had to hard reset, i would be hard reseting to MY settings and rom and not factory tmo rom?
also, if i were to install system config, and it changes settings...if i were to UNINSTALL sys config, do all the settings now go back to what they were before i installed it?
i would like to try and confirm it was sys config causing problems, but dont want to have to hard reset all over again...
Uninstalling Advanced Config will NOT revert settings.
Look into UC, most cooked Roms are UC compliant now thanks to Sleuth's code, see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
and
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AutoRun
Once you understand UC, you can create your own customisations, apps list to install etc etc, this way each time you flash a Rom, or hardreset all your apps and configs are applied automatically by UC.
Hope that helps,
ps, advanced config is not currently listed as supporting the Rhodium
Cheers,
Beasty
yes that helps ALOT!
thank you..
i will see if i can understand UC... maybe if so then it would help me greatly...
i will stay away from advance config...
thanks for all your help... im currently learning about my TP2 while learning how to rebuild my clutch on my Ninja...lol...
loueber said:
yes that helps ALOT!
thank you..
i will see if i can understand UC... maybe if so then it would help me greatly...
i will stay away from advance config...
thanks for all your help... im currently learning about my TP2 while learning how to rebuild my clutch on my Ninja...lol...
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Enjoy,
Rebuilding the clutch on a Ninja........ easy job too
Rebuilt many a bike, I think every rider should, gives you a much better understanding and appreciation for your machine, especially when your getting close too the 200MPH mark round the track, who better to trust than yourslef, knowing that you put every single nut and bolt in there.
Great fun, I once burnt a whole through two pistons at 180 (fortunately down the straight)
Seems we share a few similar hobbies mate, good luck with both.
The Wiki is always a good place to start on here when learning things.
Cheers,
Beasty
LOLLOLOLOL wow... 180!!
lol...
this forum and the zx10r forums are the only forums im on...hahah...
both are a great help from people like you... i just finished replacing my fork seal... but its still leaking.. ill have to look very close on second repair.. must be some sort of scratch... the best was when i using my TP2 to view the repair manual as i was working on it!!
Hi,
I'm using HTC Desire Z about 3 days but I have a serious issue.
My phone sometimes (f.e. if its screen locked for a long time) doesn't respond to me. I'm trying to open it with power button, no response. First when I saw this, I thought because of low battery but when I try to recharge still no response.
The phone only works if I remove battery for 3-5 seconds and insert again.
I have no clue what (or which program) does that.
I'm using stock rom 2.2.1. Here is my widgets: Agenda, messages, friend stream, watch with 8 shortcuts, bookmarks (visual one), gReader Pro, Grooveshark, PowerAMP, Radio.
Also I installed some other installed applications: Youtube, simple Last.FM scrobbler, Lyrics APP, Advanced Task Manager, Diversion, NASA App, Wikipedia, Google SKY, Zaytung (Turkish site app, like news site), Facebook for Android, Tunewiki, Kindle, Connectbot, Meebo IM, Alchemy, Angry Birds, MoboPlayer, RockPlayer, IMDB, Foursquare, Goggles, Skype, Dropbox, Barcode Scanner, WhatsApp Messenger, Camera360, MangaWatcher, PaperCamera, Photaf, Piacas Tool, Raging Thunder 2, Wifi File Explorer.
I'm using pattern lock for screen lock.
One last thing, this happened after I forgot my phone at charge for 7-8 hours. But this is its 2nd charge. And after charge I've transfer some data to phone (I've 8gig sd card, now there is approx. 32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage). Maybe I should remove some files from my SD Card?
That's all. What can I do?
Thanks.
are you rooted, and over or under clocking?
Your SDcard being almost full shouldn't be any kind of issue. What kind of free phone storage do you have? And what amount of free RAM do you have when your phone is just sitting at a homescreen?
If you're not overclocked or rooted, it sounds like you might be looking at some sort of either super poorly coded app (or combination of apps) thats crashing your phone while its sleeping, or you have a hardware defect
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are you rooted, and over or under clocking?
Your SDcard being almost full shouldn't be any kind of issue. What kind of free phone storage do you have? And what amount of free RAM do you have when your phone is just sitting at a homescreen?
If you're not overclocked or rooted, it sounds like you might be looking at some sort of either super poorly coded app (or combination of apps) thats crashing your phone while its sleeping, or you have a hardware defect
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No, like I said before I'm using stock rom and I do nothing except installing app and transferring some files (music, video etc. to SD card)
32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage. Now, I opened advanced task manager and I have 111M free RAM. And I see there is a lot of application running. (including skype, whatsapp, grooveshark etc.)
I read something like that from another phone. They do factory data reset and It fixes that issue. I didn't try but they say.
mesutcank said:
No, like I said before I'm using stock rom and I do nothing except installing app and transferring some files (music, video etc. to SD card)
32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage. Now, I opened advanced task manager and I have 111M free RAM. And I see there is a lot of application running. (including skype, whatsapp, grooveshark etc.)
I read something like that from another phone. They do factory data reset and It fixes that issue. I didn't try but they say.
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Thanks for the info. So if your phone is completely stock and its crashing while sleeping, it looks to be an issue with an app or bad combo of apps. You can try to troubleshoot on your own by uninstalling or monitoring apps, or you can always do a factory reset and start over, hoping to fix the issue. I personally would try to troubleshoot some recently installed apps or large changes you've made before you decide to bother with a full factory reset.
Also on a side note, ditch the advanced task killer. Its not necessary on anything over Android 2.1, and drains more resources and can actually cause problems. If you want to know what's going on with your apps, use something like Watchdog Lite (which I use), that monitors apps and informs you if they're misbehaving above normal levels, but never kills or changes any apps without your approval.
martonikaj said:
Thanks for the info. So if your phone is completely stock and its crashing while sleeping, it looks to be an issue with an app or bad combo of apps. You can try to troubleshoot on your own by uninstalling or monitoring apps, or you can always do a factory reset and start over, hoping to fix the issue. I personally would try to troubleshoot some recently installed apps or large changes you've made before you decide to bother with a full factory reset.
Also on a side note, ditch the advanced task killer. Its not necessary on anything over Android 2.1, and drains more resources and can actually cause problems. If you want to know what's going on with your apps, use something like Watchdog Lite (which I use), that monitors apps and informs you if they're misbehaving above normal levels, but never kills or changes any apps without your approval.
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Yes, I'm thinking on monitoring applications but is there a way to look the report after phone crashes? Trying Watchdog.
Let's try that way.
Thanks.
Now, I'm using watchdog for 10 hours. Archive Viewer (normally) and News exceeded threshold. I looked at News. (actually it is Google reader) It tries to sync my Google reader account and in my account there are a lot of items (and a lot of unread ones, subscribed to 35 site, each one has min. 1000 unread item and min. (unread count)*3 read items, I suppose)
Maybe this application causes this problem. I closed syncing (I'm already using gReader) and I hope this will fix my problem.
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Now, I'm using watchdog for 10 hours. Archive Viewer (normally) and News exceeded threshold. I looked at News. (actually it is Google reader) It tries to sync my Google reader account and in my account there are a lot of items (and a lot of unread ones, subscribed to 35 site, each one has min. 1000 unread item and min. (unread count)*3 read items, I suppose)
Maybe this application causes this problem. I closed syncing (I'm already using gReader) and I hope this will fix my problem.
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Yea that sounds like it might be an issue (but you never know). Basically what can be happening is that its overwhelming the phone while sleeping and its crashing, and there's not enough CPU power to turn on the screen or wake up.
Also, don't know of any way to get a log of your crashes without root. Someone else can chime in if they know.
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Yea that sounds like it might be an issue (but you never know). Basically what can be happening is that its overwhelming the phone while sleeping and its crashing, and there's not enough CPU power to turn on the screen or wake up.
Also, don't know of any way to get a log of your crashes without root. Someone else can chime in if they know.
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Also, when phone crashed I tried to call my phone number and the phone doesn't ring (it says can not be reached). So, It totally closes the phone after crashes. But, the interesting thing is I'm unable to open with its power button. I think this is because phone's fast boot option is enabled. That may can explain why power button doesn't work and removing and inserting battery works.
Hi again,
I talked with another desire z owner who has that problem. He said that if you use navigation and turn off gps sattelite from settings and lock screen. Phone crashes. I tried that. And phone crashed .
So, I'm planning to ask for replacement from store.
What else can I do?
just got juice defender ultimate, as it seems to do a good job of making my battery last longer....but there are so many settings, i'm getting confused.
I basicaly just want the best settings that will disable all internet to save battery, except for once every hour when my i want the phone to run the "autosync" process to sync my facebook, twitter, emails etc. i alsao want it to obviously allow me to connect to the internet if i manually start an app which needs it (internet browser, facebook app, peep, etc).
at first, the app seemed to be doing this, but now i'm finding that although it's doing a great job of saving battery, it's not syncing, and my internet connection doesn't come on when i open an app. (or occasionally, it will come on, then not turn off again until i manually tell it to.....which defeats the whole point of having jhuice defender...i got it so that the phone would automate this process).
any help greatly appreciated...
totally given up on these battery saving apps now. they all seem to do the same thing...
they work exactly as they should for a couple of hours (i.e. they cut out internet except when syncing or when needed for an app etc)...then they suddenly jsut stop working, cause my internet connection to be lost completely, and i can't get it back until I reboot my phone (losing temp root i might add, so having to go through that whole process again too).
i think i'm going to just suck it up and charge the thing every day...i bought an "extended battery" which is supposedly 2430mah (around twice the stock battery), but it doesn't seem to give twice as much performance....it just seems to slow down the battery drain slightly for the first half of the cycle....
i.e. it lasts for around 2 hours without going below 90%, then within the next 2 hours it will drop to 70%, within the next 2 hours to 50%, the next to around 20%, then finally dying within the next 2.....
this is with syncing on, occcasional text or email checking etc.
so i'm getting around 10 hours use instead of around 7 or 8. it's better, but it's far from being twice the capacity.
but anyways, yeh, battery saving apps jsut seem to kill my internet requiring reboot, so i'm gonna just manually cut internet at various stages through the day from now on, and keep charging every night? sound like a plan?
Green Power Premium.
Simple and works as advertised...Juice Defender has got a lot of settings for sure...
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Green Power Premium.
Simple and works as advertised...Juice Defender has got a lot of settings for sure...
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ok, i'll give the free version a try...but i'm not holding out much hope, i've tried so many of these battery saver apps now, they al result in my internet connection being totally screwed up until i reboot the phone.
The default settings are pretty good. I don't think I changed much in the way of settings. Your phone will save a lot of power throughout the night with this.
thanks! finally, a battery saver that actually works!
been trialing this today and so far so good.
7 and a half hour shift at work today, it's been syncing every hour (which i know has been working, cos on my break i had tweets and emails waiting, and again when me shift ended)...sent a few texts in the morning, on lunch and after work too. so far it's down to around 83% battery....
The important thing is that it hasn't destroyed my internet connection (touch wood). It switches it off until i unlock the screen, except when it periodically turns on to allow the syncing. It also knows when I am at home and will use my wifi instead of mobile internet.
I'm going to keep trialing it for a few days to make sure it definately doesn't crash my internet after a while like the other programs seem to. So far so good though. If it keeps working, i'll buy premium for the night mode feature. Save even more battery that way.
thanks again, very happy
No problem. Glad it worked out for you.
Green Power is no longer working at night mode....switching WiFi and mobile networks works still, but it doesn't seem able to switch to airplane mode. This is only since I rooted, but I'm on stock Rom and this appears to be the only problem now.
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apparently, someone else on their forums have the same issue, and it's a known bug, something to do with green power being "paused" then "resumed". weird how it's never done it before though :s
have uninstalled it and reinstalled, so hopefully that will sort it out :S
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worked perfectly last night, so it must have been a one off glitch :s
Hello,
I was texting this morning and the phone just froze when I wanted to delete a mistype. It froze on the delete button for a good 3 seconds then started to work all good after.
I have a lot of games (around 20) and little apps. The games always make notifications and stuff I don't care. When I had data enabled (but I don't have data plan) I kept receiving messages from rogers saying I have to buy a plan to use internet while I never tried to use their service. I know something is trying to gain access to internet. I was tired to receive 3+ text spam messages per day from rogers and it stopped when I unchecked the mobile data use (can't remember exactly the name of it).
In short, I know something is running behind and probably slowing my S3 and making it lag. Now when I receive a text while playing a game, the phone freeze for a good 2 sec I will say. My blackberry used to do that but I mean... I have a S3 now it's like 10 times faster.
Should I factory reset it? I was considering to root it but dislike the fact I lose warranty doing it. I would like to know if the phone really gained speed with the reset. Is there any tools to benchmark the phone?
For the battery life, the android system takes a lot. I remember the top were screen and idle now it is the screen and system.
I have 3 batteries so I really do not keep tracks of the battery life. When one battery is discharged, I put it on the charge and switch with one already charged (this is why I bought a S3, I travel and use the plane so swapping battery is the most beautiful thing 15+h of battery ).
Well bench mark numbers won't make your phone faster, it might just make you feel bad about your phone when compared to others and they are inaccurate information that is not going to help.
Do a factory reset and do not install any apps that are meant to optimise or alter the system. Yes this can be done partially without root. Get a task killer I prefer advanced task manager the icon is a blue phone around a blue sprocket. When leaving apps don't always press the home button, use the back button. By me not knowing the list of installed apps its hard to pinpoint your problem. But I do know if you get a call then phone will lag, think then show you the screen for the call. Good luck
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I press home button but I always kill the apps I do not use.
Which app kill you recommend? I need something to kill hidden process or prevent some apps to start when my phone boot like windows with msconfig.