Hi! The keyboard slider on my Qtek9090 seems to get more and more loose and wobbly the more i use it. And when the keyboard is pushed in, i can "rattle" the pda, and i see a small gap on the side. I havent dropped it or anytning. Ive had the phone for two weeks, and Im a bit disapointed if this is normal. Its a bit like the problem with Nokia 7650 slide phone.
Does anyone else have this problem? And do you think I should return it for repair? I mean it was tight when i got it, but now after 2 weeks its loose, after normal use.
Thank you.
P.D
most of mine did the same, had it replaced 4 times, sometimes is would go like that after a week sometimes longer. It on the wort one got that bad that if you held the front of the phone the keyboard would slide down on its own. and when it gets that bad itjustmakesit more slippery and easier to drop it
John
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most of mine did the same, had it replaced 4 times, sometimes is would go like that after a week sometimes longer. It on the wort one got that bad that if you held the front of the phone the keyboard would slide down on its own. and when it gets that bad itjustmakesit more slippery and easier to drop it
John
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oh no :-(
Thats ****! Why didnt they make this better? Cant stand the thought that I have to get it replaced all the time!
Think I will try to get my money back, and but the S-100 instead :-(
i returned it and have changed to the XDA2i, only thing i wish i had not got rid of some of my old XDA2 bits as the fit the new XDA2i
As to the keyboard i di find some were a lot worse than others, but as new from the box they were all fine. Basically it would take a bit of time befor you realised if you had a bad one or not
The problem isn't the loosening - that's physics. The problem is, the dumba$$ engineers over at HTC didn't put in any kind of way for the end user to tighten it up when it gets loose, like with a screw on the back of something.
One guy took his apart and tightened it on his own. But it seems to be a pretty hairy operation the first time you do it.
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Anyone that has the xda2s, are you having problems with the slide down keyboard? Mine has gradually worked loose and seems very unstable. The top part of the device rocks side to side , and sometimes gets stuck when opening and makes nasty cruching noice ---- Its starting to worry me, anyone got any good tips?
Thanks
Mike
Just send it to service, not much else to do.
Ok, since posting this i found a topic about opening the XDA2s up and fiddleing around to tighten it up. Does anyone know how easy this process is? Seems quite scary and am not sure whther i should attempt this....
It's only scary the first time. Once you're not a virgin anymore, you'll feel comfortable doing it over and over again. Just don't turn into a slut .
Some things to consider. Use the correct tools for the job. Once the screws get stripped, your SOL. Oh, don't be such in a hurry to take it apart once you get the screws out. Remember to take pics, or if you are good with memory, remember where everything was originally placed. Especially the screws. Had to slap myself a few times for not remembering the screw placement.
i just had my housing recently replaced coz i dropped and scratched it. the keyboard frame + the backside of the front face is considered under warranty. the repair center diagnosed its looseness as "faulty mechanical".
Execellent, in that case im sending mine back so they can fix it! Better than cocking things up my-self!
Hi!
I know there is a couple of topics, similar to this one.
But this time i would like to hear if any Qtek9090 (og similar model) owners, HAVENT had the problem with the keayboard slider getting loose.
Mine got loose after a week, I send to repairment, and they changed to whole slider.
now, a week after its loose again.
Is there anyone that havent had the problem? Is there qtek's out there that perfect?
Mine is still firmly sliding after 7 months
I even dropped it on a concrete floor , all kinds of damage but the slider is still perfect
ps : can I buy a replacement casing somewhere ?
I have exactly!!! the same experience as you do Paradroid...
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Well Mine is &/(), its loose, one of the screws is missing and I have gone to 7 shops to get a new styalist as the old one fell out never to be seen again due to wear it go loose as well.
When I pull my PDA out of my jeans, it comes out in two sections first the screen, followed by the Keyboard, I can't even get it out unless I am standing.
When I talk the keyboard justs drops down as if it wantes to say hello. Hey you can even see day light between the Keyboard and screen.
I think its a crap. Sorry My thoughts but happy for all of you that ended up with a usable model.
Thank you!
My point is to know if there at all is usable models, because then I will demand them to replace mine untill I have one that works.
I love the machine and couldnt live without it. But this is just to stupid. I dont want to send in my PDA in every 2 weeks, and then wait 3 weeks before getting it back, just because they have made crapy mechanism.
I paid almost 1200 USD for this toy!!
Hi guys
Got my replacement TP2. Screen protector went on perfectly .... ahhhhh
Installed and got radio app ... and it works well - thanks
I love the device .... the display is something else.
My only concern relates to the keyboard mechanism.
When closed, the leading edge (left edge of the phone with it in front of you) has some give in it and when you tap the screen on the left side you can feel the bounce (a little knock sensation).
I don't remember this on the first one, but I didn't really get time to play with it before it went back.
I'm comparing the mechanism with the TyTNII ... and there is something in the TyTNII construction that doesn't exist on the TP2. Front to back on both sides is a slippery plastic 'runner' that is about 1.5mm high. This ensures the mech slides at an even height as it closes. The TP2 doesn't have this and is therefore 'hinged' on the right hand side ... suggesting this give ... and therefore bouncing / knocking will be inevitable.
What are you guys seeing ?
Also ... my original TP2 had plastic film down the sides of the keyboard and across the back of the keyboard .... the new one has them on both sides but not at the back ... which is a puzzle ... I assumed they were there to minimise scratching from the mechanism movement ... particularly important with the 'give' that seems inevitable by this different design.
Paul.
Sorry about the bounce, but I need to know from all those that have got a TP2 whether or not they are experiencing the same bounce on the left side as I am.
Without that I can't take a decision between keep, exchange (reluctant as the rest of the device is perfect and I don't want to end up with some other issues on a new device) or send for repair (probably the worst scenario.
Please let me know.
Paul.
Mine "bounced" a little... but i think that's because it's a sliding keyboard ... and it's not clearly noticable...
by the way, i already lost one of the film-plastic pieces you're talking about... hope it don't harms the paint
Mines fine, no bounce at all
Thanks guys
Looks like it maybe a tolerance issue .... any other responses hugely appreciated.
Paul.
No bounce on mine either and I've only just noticed those little pieces of film, one of mine looks like it will be coming loose very soon.
mine bounces.
just noticed it, and then returned to this thread where i remember you talkin about bouncing edge.
perhaps im being overly concerned though. (....but if anyone else tries exchanging theirs because its bouncing, then so am I!)
The bouncing makes interacting with the device so distracting.
It's a real pain. It concerns me that given there are no raised sliders running down the sides of the keyboard as there were on the TyTNII, even if the device isn't like this as new ... the constant stresses on the mech from opening / closing and simply tapping the screen will result in all the devices getting it sooner or later.
I'm not looking forward to trying to get an exchange or refund. Suppliers understandably never like dealing with repeating issues ... and never seem to push back the problems on the manufacturer. HTC responded very quickly saying ... sorry you are having problems ... you can send it in for repair anytime in the 24 month warranty ... but I don't want a 'repaired' brand new device.
I've already stuck my MicroSD back into the TyTNII (still as solid as it was the day I purchased it).
Any more views, I'd be hugely appreciative. Feeling rather despondent :-(
Paul.
Hi guys
Need to make a decision today ....
I'm trying to decide if all devices will end up with this issue because the raised bars on each side of the TyTNII keyboard don't exist on the TP2 ... or if the loose mech which causes the bounce only affects the 45-50% I'm seeing from the polls I've done.
This is a bit of a worry. I really want this device but having it bounce up and down every time I touch the left half of the display will drive me mad.
Sorry to ask again ... but thoughts please.
Paul.
I think i know what your talking about and on mine if i press on the very edge (not the screen on the chrome) it will flex but thats all the way around i've not noticed any issues with it "bouncing" while using it for quite a bit now.
The bounce is also on the Xperia, is cause of the keyboard.
On the TyTN II there was no bounce, cause of the mechanisem being diffrent.
Yes I also had it on several X1 units, there is always little movement in these types of designs. I would rather have the bounch than have it scrape/scuff the keyboard. I contacted HTC regarding this issue they say it is perfectly normal.
The bounce on my unit has so little movement. This little niggle is not enougth for my phone to go back. Everythhing else is perfect very happy with it
Yes ... it clearly varies a lot.
My TyTNII still has no movement at all - had it probably 2 years. I'm sure this is because of the spacer bars down the side of the keyboard.
The X1 had a little movement ... but nothing like I experience with my TP2.
You actually feel it move down and knock with every single soft touch screen press when you are over the left half of the display.
A girl in customer service at HTC is escalating this for me today. She tells me that she has had several calls from people complaining about the same issue ...
Some devices are obviously a lot looser than others.
Paul.
ok soo i dropped my Tilt 2 from a standing point (which is about 5 and a half feet since im 5'9) with the phones keyboard open and screens tilted, whats funny is that no battery fell out or anything, it just shuts off, i had to turn it back on.
when i shaked the phone i heard a slight rattle and i reckon its from the Flex Cable from the LCD screen, the rattle stops when i have my Tilt 2s keyboard open, but when i tilt the screen i can hear it slightly...is that normal?
also what is going to aggravate me for the rest of the time im going to own this phone is that when im using the phone's software keyboard on portrait at say like a 15 degree angle i can hear taps which is quite annoying but if i hold it at a 45 degree angle it stops, i turned the phone to the side i notice a gap, not a big one and not really noticeable but id say its roughly .5mm thick, i push the screen down and the gap gets smaller, is normal as well?
plz let me know thnx a lot
short answer.... no.... not normal. You knocked something loose inside hence the rattle, WHICH you probably already knew The gap, also not normal. Well wait.. I should correct myself. This is all probably totally normal for people who have dropped their phone. You're lucky you didn't crack your screen or do more damage and the phone's still usable!
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short answer.... no.... not normal. You knocked something loose inside hence the rattle, WHICH you probably already knew The gap, also not normal. Well wait.. I should correct myself. This is all probably totally normal for people who have dropped their phone. You're lucky you didn't crack your screen or do more damage and the phone's still usable!
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hmm, well i talked to one Tilt 2 owner and he said he has that rattle and he hasnt dropped it? but like i mentioned, the rattle must be coming from that Flex cable that goes between the motherboard and the LCD screen....
No rattle and no gap on mine, but I've only had it 5 days. Give me time.
I have rattle too, but i think its the G-Sensor !
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I have rattle too, but i think its the G-Sensor !
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i did a couple of searches on PPC and some say its a normal thing especially in the tilted position? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=87452 at least im not the only one! i just have OCD xD
heres a video of the screen problem im having
but its not as worse as his but you guys get the point
I just dropped my phone yesterday with keyboard out and tilted and I got a similar problem to this. My screen only has a gap when I pull it up, which I wasn't able to do before, but the screen slide is now about 1 or 2 cm's to the left causing it not to line up with the keyboard slide. Somewhat aggravating, but totally unnoticable unless your holding the phone. I don't get any rattle though...
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I just dropped my phone yesterday with keyboard out and tilted and I got a similar problem to this. My screen only has a gap when I pull it up, which I wasn't able to do before, but the screen slide is now about 1 or 2 cm's to the left causing it not to line up with the keyboard slide. Somewhat aggravating, but totally unnoticable unless your holding the phone. I don't get any rattle though...
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hmm
well if i were to dismantle the phone and repair the little bridge that goes across the back of the LCD screen would that solve the issue? because it seems when i push on it it seems to fill a gap but idk if thats what causing the whole screen and kb issue but im going to do it when i have the chance
I have a tilt and mines exacly like the one in the video with the vary small gap and the screen wobble, I always assumed it was normal, mine dosent rattle though
that little gap and the screen wobble.
it just because is got movable parts, look at the screen hinges if i can call them that.
its the reason i didnt want to get mine, ive always chose candy bar phones so i dont worry about that.
but i did get me a tilt 2 and have dropped it too, i also think my wobbly screen started after i dropped it, but ive had it a year, since it first came out. the only thing i hate reall bad about this phone it the lack of a headphone jack I HATE THAT WITH A PASSION.
A little back story: me and my friend bough One X-es not long ago, and while i generally LOVE the phone,
both mine device and my friends (we bought it on same carrier,same store, few days difference) it had this really
uncool creaking all around when you touch the phone on certain areas (ours were specialy creaky at the bottom)
This is what people call "bad builds", "manufacturing fault" etc. It was kinda sad for device of this quality, with unibody design.
Now, i was already dealing with the fact that i have creaky one, and as much as i dident like it, i couldent be sure that replacament
wont be the same, and both of us just choose to live with it. Until yesturday. So what happends was, I dropped my phone from my table.
Pretty bad. I was already pale-faced of fear that i broke the screen,but what actually happend is that screen just popped out a bit.. you know,
like bottom part was little raised up and as i know this is actually way to open OneX i just popped it back in place and nice "click" was heard.
and quess what? The creaking was gone,completely.device never felt more solid, and i cant even get it to creak now no mather how hard i press!
Seems like certain builds are just not properly assambled, and this fall obviously just put everything back in place!
So right away i call my friend and tell him what happend, and how happy i am. What he did was he tryed to reproduce the "problem" by trying
to open up the phone like in here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpBAupp8kKc . It was hard to do at the beggining but he menaged to
get it pop up a bit after some trying. he said while he was doing it phone creaked and screamed like crazy, but the moment he popped back
everything in place, ALL of the creaking instantly stopped, like in my case!
TL;DR So my conclusion. Seems like some series of builds are just like that out-of-the-box, and looks like something is not properly alligned in factory itself. Poping screen out a few milimeters and then back in place seems to fix this creaking problem.
Two important things to mention:
1. Do not pop the screen out all the way by any means i think it can void your warranty.
2. I read some phones are glued in place and you wont be able to open it anyway, so dont try to open it too hard.
if you try to pop it out just a little like we did, without actually completely opening up device there is no
way you will void your warranty, so this is safe! So, if you have creaky build-try it out, you got nothing to
lose, except your creaking problem.
I have a slight creaking sound.. but everywhere on the screen... Only if I press the screen at a certain angle the sound comes... I tried popping the casing again but the sounds still there
Not a big deal though....
Fixed my creaky upper left corner...THANKS!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Fixed creacking on the bottom for me thanks :good:
Will fix it
but not for long