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Is Oxygen OS as good or better then MIUI?

In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?

TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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Get a Mi phone for all those features plus a mi phone will have better support for miui roms. Oxygen os is close to stock with some little functional tweaks. it doesn't have anything fancy like miui. But if you would ask me which rom is better i would say oos. it's simple clean less gimmicky. Hope this helps you.

Hi,
If you want to try MIUI, I suggests, buy Mi5... A MIUI port won't stable than an original one.
From my perspective: MIUI is really beautiful... If you see the screenshots.... You should try it. I think, everyone tried at least once... But for daily driver? No way. If you ever used AOSP based roms (oos, cm, etc), you won't use MIUI. I'm 80% sure, that you'll replace the original launcher. Than you'll sick some annoying incompatibles... Just look at MIUI forums. Problems with pop-up windows (for example Facebook messanger), problems with Android Pay, etc, etc.
I was ordered Mi5 (4/128G), but it went to out of stock, so I got refund... That was my luck. Now, I'm a happy OP3 user, and I don't need MIUI... That's my opinion.

As someone who previously always used stock or near stock ROMS, I currently own a Xiaomi Mi5. I ran with Miui for about a few weeks, but it really frustrated the hell out of me. Yes it looks nice, but I was always finding background apps just randomly stopped working or you had to allow extra security settings. I tried Google Now Loader on it, but that randonmly stopped working. In the end, I've flashed CM on it. So much better.
Going from a stock or near stock rom to MIUI is like going from Android to Apple. I will be returning my Mi5 to stock and selling on, as I now have a OP3 on the way.
Another reason - community support for OP3 is already strong. The Mi5 support thread is a joke.

TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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why dont you try the hos

for me OOS is better than miui. as i prefer stock android ui than heavily skinned miui.

MIUI 8 is cool- looking, feature-rich, but i just dont like the ios lookalike UX.
I have bad experiences with Oxygen in OP1 and 2, always uses CM or H20 ,
but if you are wondering about phones which running those 2 OS - Xiaomi mi5 and OP3, i think i should go for OP3, MI5 looks cheap with white color,and huge bezels

All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.

Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app

I think both are not compareable. They try to reach different goals (MIUI feature rich and pretty colorful while OOS wants to add some features but stay close to stock). It depends mainly on the user.
I will be happy with tweaked OOS once my device will be delivered while you can count on custom ported MIUI roms. There's not that better one imho

CrashTestDroid said:
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
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It mean "call recording" is not available in Oxygen?
I expect your answer to flash Oxygen. My OP3 is running H20 and if it isn't "call recording", i will not flash.

all oxygen is is stock android with a few apps from oneplus. plus it supports layers themeing. so yes IMO its almost as good as getting a nexus and much better than miui.

OOS on a Mi5?
I'm not sold on the aesthetic and a couple aspects of the OP3, I quite prefer the Mi5. I'm strongly considering attempting to load OxygenOS onto the 4/128gb Mi5 as my next phone and it sounds like people in this thread might have direct experience with this setup.
Any thoughts/tips? I unfortunately can't wait for the new Nexus phone(s) but I'm also considering a couple phones from ZTE & Huawei...
Thanks

Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.

Keij0 said:
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
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Thanks but I specifically don't like iOS and wanting a phone that doesn't look like an iPhone is part of the draw towards the Mi5. That R7 Plus is an interesting phone, but for me the screen is too big and the CPU & GPU are quite subpar.
No one who makes a smartphone for the US has made one with the specs I'm looking for. OP3 falls short, the Nexus 6P is too far behind now, I find the Galaxy S7 to be hideous, the G5 was a disappointment. The HTC 10 is the closest bet but it's battery life sucks probably due to its pointlessly 4K screen.
The Huawei P9, Honor V8, ZTE Nubia Z11, and the Mi5 Pro are my top contenders at the moment, but there's no way I'm using their own OSs.

IMO Samsung is a big disappointment, because of their weird things like Knox.

boy i hate miui.. its known to bring gingerbread memory leak issues to marshmellow ! hahaha on the mi5 it restarts apps unnecessarily lol

Gingerbread didn't have memory leaks... or I've not experienced them while I was using it. In comparison, lollipop and above always had them on my Z2. That's why I started porting SailfishOS

Simontjee said:
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I'm using the Mi launcher too. The look and feel of Miui and the best of OOS or Exodus Rom

OOS is great out of the box - stock Android with goodies (and useful goodies at that). Really stable and fast.
And since it's very near to stock Android, many Xposed modules work, so you can customize it much very easily.
It is beyond me why someone could prefer MIUI over that.

Miui 9 exclusive features VS Lineage OS 15.1

Greetings to all I'm a first-time MIUI user and I would like to know if I switch to lineage OS what features from the MIUI system I'm going to lose. Only the exclusive one, i have identified one in particular which is that the phone turns on with an Alarm set on the stock Clock app.
Any other features that can't be replicated?
Which Lineage OS features would be nice to see in MIUI?
Please give some feedback as I'm a rom developer and want to know the approach I'll take for DTUX CORP ROM.
Thank you

Switching to lineage I would miss the gesture navigation only.
I would like the feature of swiping down on the finger print sensor to open notification shade in miui and Lineage

carlosggb said:
Greetings to all I'm a first-time MIUI user and I would like to know if I switch to lineage OS what features from the MIUI system I'm going to lose. Only the exclusive one, i have identified one in particular which is that the phone turns on with an Alarm set on the stock Clock app.
Any other features that can't be replicated?
Which Lineage OS features would be nice to see in MIUI?
Please give some feedback as I'm a rom developer and want to know the approach I'll take for DTUX CORP ROM.
Thank you
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The 2 features missing in MIUI are :
- An app drawer
- The ability to sort apps alphabetically
And thank you in advance for your futures ROMs

bayad said:
The 2 features missing in MIUI are :
- An app drawer
- The ability to sort apps alphabetically
And thank you in advance for your futures ROMs
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One question buddy
What features of MIUI are NOT present in Lineage OS?
I ask this because with project Treble, Lineage OS is running very stable even without the kernel source which is impressive and it might be easier to add to LineageOS what's missing from MIUI rather than adding more to the MIUI Heavy Skin

Lineage OS needs a stock camera port, then it would be perfect.

Two good things in MIUI that I look forward to be implemented in LOS are
1) Camera app
2) Gesture based navigation (It kinda grows with usage)
Currently in MIUI 9.5 leaked Stable. Ignoring the little amount of bloat, this version of MIUI looks rock solid.

anirudhnyg said:
Switching to lineage I would miss the gesture navigation only.
I would like the feature of swiping down on the finger print sensor to open notification shade in miui and Lineage
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How do you enable it?

The camera is the biggest problem. Without MIUI, only one camera sensor will work, and you lost the "AI" feature in MIUI camera. On my device, camera in Lineage OS is so bad that I give it up.

TheCarryEnd said:
Lineage OS needs a stock camera port, then it would be perfect.
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Ok! Got it, let's see how possible this camera app port could be.
How is Screen on time on Lineage OS? I always find posts from many devices saying its way less than stock. Can you share with us your personal findings on that aspect?
Thanks in advance
kbajey said:
Two good things in MIUI that I look forward to be implemented in LOS are
1) Camera app
2) Gesture based navigation (It kinda grows with usage)
Currently in MIUI 9.5 leaked Stable. Ignoring the little amount of bloat, this version of MIUI looks rock solid.
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Interesting, with some more debloating it could be GOLD.
ZHQzhq087 said:
The camera is the biggest problem. Without MIUI, only one camera sensor will work, and you lost the "AI" feature in MIUI camera. On my device, camera in Lineage OS is so bad that I give it up.
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If the camera port comes thru then we'll all be on LOS, if not then a heavily debloated MIUI 9.5 should be the ideal thing.

carlosggb said:
One question buddy
What features of MIUI are NOT present in Lineage OS?
I ask this because with project Treble, Lineage OS is running very stable even without the kernel source which is impressive and it might be easier to add to LineageOS what's missing from MIUI rather than adding more to the MIUI Heavy Skin
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I can not answer you for now because I have never had a phone with MIUI OS between the hands and the Redmi Note 5 Global will be my first phone with MIUI...and it did not even get shipped from China yet
carlosggb said:
If the camera port comes thru then we'll all be on LOS, if not then a heavily debloated MIUI 9.5 should be the ideal thing.
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I think that a heavily debloated MIUI with an app drawer and the ability to sort the apps alphabetically would be the best choice

bayad said:
I can not answer you for now because I have never had a phone with MIUI OS between the hands and the Redmi Note 5 Global will be my first phone with MIUI...and it did not even get shipped from China yet
I think that a heavily debloated MIUI with an app drawer and the ability to sort the apps alphabetically would be the best choice
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i do agree on leaning towards debloated MIUI but we are gifted to have a device with Dual boot possible so we don't have to limit ourselfs

Ok! I made this thread to know the differences from other users experience, but, none voiced it properly so I had to do it myself...
MIUI over RR / LOS
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-Camera portrait mode / image quality
-Fm radio
-wake on fingerprint sensor touch without registering a finger.
-one hand mode
-native call recording
-more stable
-Miui Themes (personal preference)
RR / LOS over MIUI
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-EXTREMELY LIGHT AND CONFIGURABLE
-stock Android
-more compatible mods
-bloatware free!
Because of the first 3 items MIUI has over stock Android I went back to MIUI after a couple of days. It's better to debloat stock rather than losing important features.

To tell the truth as far as I have been using MIUI OREO Rom in my Note 5 AI just because of
1. Smooth full screen gesture.
2. Most important The Stock camera which can utilize the camera hardware fully.
3. The stability of battery backup.

carlosggb said:
Ok! I made this thread to know the differences from other users experience, but, none voiced it properly so I had to do it myself...
MIUI over RR / LOS
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-Camera portrait mode / image quality
-Fm radio
-wake on fingerprint sensor touch without registering a finger.
-one hand mode
-native call recording
-more stable
-Miui Themes (personal preference)
RR / LOS over MIUI
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-EXTREMELY LIGHT AND CONFIGURABLE
-stock Android
-more compatible mods
-bloatware free!
Because of the first 3 items MIUI has over stock Android I went back to MIUI after a couple of days. It's better to debloat stock rather than losing important features.
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theres xiaomi.eu people say is better then official miui.

raptorddd said:
theres xiaomi.eu people say is better then official miui.
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yeah, but their rom for this device (China version) is still laggy so we need to wait longer.

Best feature of Miui : Data Usage (In Security Center)
And gestures (implemented in Android P).

bayad said:
I think that a heavily debloated MIUI with an app drawer and the ability to sort the apps alphabetically would be the best choice
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... just install nova launcher?

gozzaa said:
... just install nova launcher?
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Yes, I think it's the best thing to do

For camera you can try MIUI camera ported
Here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4347106&stc=1&d=1511995542

What i miss on miui is the volume dialog when casting to a chromecast or google home.
You can control cast volume but no volume dialog is shown so you can't change other volume sliders when casting or see the casting volume.

Treble ROMs discussion

Have anyone tried flashing the Treble roms on to the P20 lite? If yes, please share with us which ROM and how good/bad it is.
Seems like Treble ROMs are the way forward since we do not see custom development happening anytime soon.
In case you are unfamiliar with Treble, please read Treble FAQ
Treble ROMs can be downloaded from the forum

I'm in the openkirin group in telegram, being so far I think the only lineageOs tester with Android 8.1 in the p20 lite and so far the only serious problem is the camera
If we talk about other aspects, the navigation bar is still a bit smaller than the notch, the contacts of the Sim card are nonexistent, you can not change the internal storage to the SD card and finally the facial recognition is not enabled
Edit: full screen display mode is available, but you have to activate it manually from the settings (applications that do not appear in full screen do not give the option to adapt them as it does in stock)

I tried Lineage and RR (v22) from phhusson as well as the official RR which i use as a daily driver. They work mostly fine except for some minor issues... Music usually plays through the speakers even when headphones are plugged in and it sometimes randomly stops. When charging while turned off, the device boots into eRecovery. The notch is not really supported but RR allows you to move the clock to the left. This way, icons are less likely to be hidden behind the notch. Additionally there are some rom-specific bugs like some settings not doing anything in RR. Battery life is pretty good (I dont use gapps).
The issues will probably get fixed eventually when someone provides logs.

Is the official better than the phhusson one ?
I tried it and was not can of it I think P will be better for the Huawei P20 because of the notch support and navbar replacement by touch gestures.
I tried RR, AOSP, Pixel Experience and Los.
Too much broken features to use it as a daily driver.
For the moment I run the stock rom debloated with adb.

mchtt said:
Is the official better than the phhusson one ?
I tried it and was not can of it I think P will be better for the Huawei P20 because of the notch support and navbar replacement by touch gestures.
I tried RR, AOSP, Pixel Experience and Los.
Too much broken features to use it as a daily driver.
For the moment I run the stock rom debloated with adb.
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I didnt notice any difference between the phhusson RR build and the official one so far. RR has several options to replace the navbar too btw. I personally use fling which is highly customizable. There is also the option to use edge gestures or a pie menu. System wide gestures are available too but can only be used to launch apps.

Sesu8642 said:
I didnt notice any difference between the phhusson RR build and the official one so far. RR has several options to replace the navbar too btw. I personally use fling which is highly customizable. There is also the option to use edge gestures or a pie menu. System wide gestures are available too but can only be used to launch apps.
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Oh I would like to try RR, what would be the problems you have? I'm very interested in using RR

brandox0 said:
Oh I would like to try RR, what would be the problems you have? I'm very interested in using RR
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Basically all the problems I mentioned before. But those are the same with all treble roms I tried. Generally RR seems less polished than Lineage and some features are broken, e.g. dark theme in settings. Nothing critical though... However, I only tested the stuff I commonly use (calling, wifi, bluetooth etc. works fine for me).
Someone on phhussons Github reported that his P20 lite overheats when fast charging but for me it works flawlessly.

I don't see the P20 lite as being "treble" supported at this time. What am I missing? I would love to get vinalla android on this and give the device some performance improvements.

ej_424 said:
I don't see the P20 lite as being "treble" supported at this time. What am I missing? I would love to get vinalla android on this and give the device some performance improvements.
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Oh the P20lite very much supports Treble. You can check on your own device using a terminal app, type:
Code:
getprop ro.treble.enabled
If the result is true, Treble is supported.
or if you're rooted, simply open the build.prop file (at your own risk!) and check.
Alternately, here is a page with a list of Treble supported devices:
Treble devices list

I do not understand much about treble, but I want my device to always have the latest android available, does your comment means that I can have that in my P20 lite?

Here is a very detailed description of Treble.
Link
Treble is aimed to provide updates to all the devices that support treble at the same time. Since P20 is already shipped with the latest android version, it is irrelevant at this time. But in case you want to flash third party ROMs such as Lineage, there are Treble version of these ROMs that are common for all the Treble devices.

The problem I ran into was the notch.
Obviously these ROMs don't support it really. So notifications go all the way along the top.
Did I miss something?

X_E_N said:
The problem I ran into was the notch.
Obviously these ROMs don't support it really. So notifications go all the way along the top.
Did I miss something?
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Yes they don't really support the notch. This is because these ROMs are for all the Brands/models that support Treble and most of them don't have a notch.

mchtt said:
Is the official better than the phhusson one ?
I tried it and was not can of it I think P will be better for the Huawei P20 because of the notch support and navbar replacement by touch gestures.
I tried RR, AOSP, Pixel Experience and Los.
Too much broken features to use it as a daily driver.
For the moment I run the stock rom debloated with adb.
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hello, please describe to me the procedure you used to return to the rom stock?

Search in the question and answers threads.
There is one about flashing treble ROMs and getting back to stock.

Diego1976 said:
hello, please describe to me the procedure you used to return to the rom stock?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...om-official-emui-8-0-huawei-p20-lite-t3773999
Look here. There's multiple methods there

Question AOSP vs MIUI based ROMs

I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
=)
Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6

Kimbaroth said:
I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
=)
Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6
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Thanks for the reply! Yes I read your post on that other thread as well and it was a very good post. I feel that your observation is accurate. MIUI based ROMs seem to give us the most stability and feature set. Unfortunately AOSP ROMs have things lacking that MIUI ROMs have by default like the Camera. I think this is making me inclined to install a MIUI ROM I guess.

A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.

litetaker said:
A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.
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You can try that by yourself, there are a lot of gcam variants, better download a couple of them and try one by one: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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Overall, I'd also rather have Vanilla Android.
But I do like Xiaomi's added permission-manager, which restricts Apps further, Dolby Atmos (Much better than Moto Dolby, and Razer Dolby in AOSP ROMs), and the MIUI Camera App.
Yes, you can use Gcam on MIUI as well. The ports have gotten good.
Recommended Stable Google Camera Port Versions
A list of suggested / recommended and known to be stable Google Camera apks.
www.celsoazevedo.com
BSG GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 (Beta) GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2 (Beta).
www.celsoazevedo.com
Calling works normal on MIUI. Call Recording too.

litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found some annoying issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui

SanPepsi said:
i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found many issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui
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I'm also on Xiaomi.eu Weekly. I've seen your question here on XDA about the random reboots, but I don't know a solution to your problem.
I've only stayed on a single AOSP ROM for max. 2 days before switching to other AOSP ROMs, but I only experienced 1 crash during Android Setup, I think.
I only used 4G/LTE internet, no calls as far as I know.

I tried many aosp custom roms and went back to stock Miui. High end phones have extra features like Dolby atmos which improves sound quality a lot and no custom rom sounds as good as Miui, and some very useful built in features like timing AOD which is very convenient,... I feel like Aosp custom roms would be better for mid range phone like Redmi notes, Poco F3 is powerful enough to be smooth even in Miui

Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?

I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .

jefffrom said:
I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .
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That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.

litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is a nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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Nice, I'm have some lags with MiuiMiX... And MIUI is still very limited with some things... It's a choice to make AOSP and MIUI have advantages and disadvantages..

litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.

jefffrom said:
some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.
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I have hidden away the bloat completely. I don't see any major negatives with this ROM so far.

In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.

I always go away from miui due to security and privacy concerns + the bloated applications and the ads. I have found ARROWOS and HOS to be working the best on PocoF3, keep in mind miui has higher antutu scores because it has a specific profile for bench-marking called "nolimit"

Noe367 said:
Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?
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There is a guide thread open on how to use gestures with any launcher, you need magisk, and Nav Remover Module

ketanmore said:
In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.
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Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI

Zimmster said:
Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI
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Is it straightforward to install updates for ArrowOS with Magisk root? Or will it block updates or something?

OxygenOS 12 [OB1] [Oneplus 8 Pro] - First Open Beta of Global OOS12

*Will update thread as rn im at work*
The first Open Beta for Global OOS has been release really quietly (no announcemment so far) but here is the link from where i download it:
https://oxygenos.oneplus.net/IN2025_11_C_OTA_1100_all_2fd4dc_10100001.zip
Been running the update since now about 6-7 hours, update from OOS11, same method as COS (download, put file on root and update from within 1+ update app). All apps and info stays the same. Its been running suuper stable, have tryied almost everything i can think. A little review:
-Notification are now working properly, everytime, even on AOD
-FP speed is insane (equal if not faster than OOS11)
-Lots of customizations but maintaining the OOS standards
-Battery drain equal or better than OOS11
-Banking apps working properly, even the FP auth ones
-Animations clearly faster and more smooth than OOS11
-Widevine L1
-No chinese bloatware (yeyy)
-True Amoled darkmode (Pitch Black)
-Vanced stuff working properly
Will keep the update and daily drive the thing, if someone need any info regarding how to update, or to "can you please check this...", im available to help

how to switch from color os to oxygen os please?

I'm guessing this will be only partially compatible with TMo bands on an IN2025 model?

diabolousstyle said:
how to switch from color os to oxygen os please?
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Using Msmtool go back to OOS11 and then flash the update from root directory

OxygenOS 12 Open Beta 1
System
Optimized desktop icons with improved textures, by using a design inspired by brand-new materials and uniting lights and layers
Dark mode
Dark mode now supports three adjustable levels, bringing a more personalized and comfortable user experience
Shelf
New additional style options for Cards, making data contents more visual and easier to read
Newly added Earphone Control Card with Bluetooth earphone one-click adjustment
Newly added access to OnePlus Scout in Shelf, allowing you to search multiple contents on your phone, including Apps, Settings, Media Data, etc
Newly added OnePlus Watch Card in Shelf, to easily glance at your health stats
Work Life Balance
Work Life Balance feature is now available to all users, allowing you to effortlessly switch between Work and Life mode via quick settings
WLB 2.0 now supports automatic Work/Life mode switching, based on specific locations, Wi-Fi network, and time, also bringing customized App notification profiles according to the personalization
Gallery
Gallery now allows you to switch between different layouts with a two-finger pinch gesture, intelligently recognizing the best-quality pictures, and cropping the thumbnail based on the content, making the gallery layout more pleasing
Canvas AOD
Canvas AOD brings you new diverse styles of lines and colors, for a more personalized lock screen experience with inspiring visuals
Newly added multiple brushes and strokes and support for color adjustment
Optimized software algorithm and improved face recognition to better identify the features and skin color of different figures
official link:
OxygenOS 12 Open Beta 1 for the OnePlus 8 Series

the_rev said:
I'm guessing this will be only partially compatible with TMo bands on an IN2025 model?
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Mine is a IN2020 and I flash this and now says IN2025 as far as data goes, it works perfect

Anyone running this on the IN2015 or 2010? If so, would you recommend it good enough to be a daily driver?

will this work?? I don't know how MSM tools works.

Won't charge on Android 12

Has anyone maintained magisk like we've done on stock rooted Android 11 updates? Usually I roll back magisk images. Install the update, let it do it's thing, not reboot. Then reinstall magisk and reboot. Will this process still work?

I have a problem with Line app crash.
(Color OS 12 beta , H2OS 12 Beta and also OOS 12 Beta.)
Now only run Custom 12. Line is my main chat app.

Ive tried out the firmware. Its working amazingly. Also, my phone that never once had a 5G bar suddenly says 5G (I am on Verizon). I feel like the battery life might be a little bit worse, but I have been using it the whole time with max brightness over the last 4 hrs. I went from 90 to 59%.
The photochrom app for infrared that works on android 11 doesn't seem to work, I have yet to try it with adb. It seems that engineering mode (factory mode) is blocked.
All of my apps seem to be running very stable. Calls, plex, games, etc. No issues
My OnePlus Bud z2 sound way better.
Ill add to this if there are any changes.
Edit 1: I forgot to say that after the update it ran sluggish for about the first 2 minutes then resumed back to blazing fast. I also updated from OOS (android 11) Beta 12.
It was also incredibly easy to retain root. Just use the system update to install the update manually then install magisk on the other slot. Restart, retain root.

Forced 120hz stopped working.
"hacked" call recording is not working.
New folders displays its content in the middle of the screen=poor reachability.
Cannot change folders icons into circles
Apps names visibility on home screen is connected to visibility inside the app drawer.
Widevine ok, banking apps ok

But for those who have the EU version phone, will there be a specific beta for EU or just the Global?

Found this

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Found this
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I updated my (ez)phone to na. Works. Nearly perfect.

I instalalled this update yesterday night , for now everything seems stable , i can't tell if battery is better or not because I rooted my oos 11 , and metod to root oos 11 didn't work for me on oos 12 , anyone know how to root oos 12?
The thing i can tell , buttons to navigate system changed , i could set custom gestures on oos 11 like if i hold home button my screen turns off, now i can't and their position is worse than oos 11 . And I agree with others that fingerprint seems working even faster

H411UCIN093NIC said:
Ive tried out the firmware. Its working amazingly. Also, my phone that never once had a 5G bar suddenly says 5G (I am on Verizon). I feel like the battery life might be a little bit worse, but I have been using it the whole time with max brightness over the last 4 hrs. I went from 90 to 59%.
The photochrom app for infrared that works on android 11 doesn't seem to work, I have yet to try it with adb. It seems that engineering mode (factory mode) is blocked.
All of my apps seem to be running very stable. Calls, plex, games, etc. No issues
My OnePlus Bud z2 sound way better.
Ill add to this if there are any changes.
Edit 1: I forgot to say that after the update it ran sluggish for about the first 2 minutes then resumed back to blazing fast. I also updated from OOS (android 11) Beta 12.
It was also incredibly easy to retain root. Just use the system update to install the update manually then install magisk on the other slot. Restart, retain root.
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You're talking about magisk 24?