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How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
CAUTION: This method of data recovery will work under a wide variety of situations; however, you must consider the following:
1) When going from a stock or stock-based ROM to another stock or stock-based ROM, this method should work very well. It doesn’t matter if it’s the same ROM as long as both are based on a stock ROM.
2) When going from a stock or stock-based ROM to an AOSP-based ROM, such as CM or AOKP, this method may/will not work. Similarly, when going from an AOSP-based ROM to a stock or stock-based ROM, this method may/will not work.
Use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern as to whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1. Boot into Recovery
2. Make a Nandroid backup
3. Wipe data/factory reset
4. Wipe cache partition
5. Wipe Dalvik Cache
6. Flash ROM
7. DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8. Select backup and restore
9. Select advanced restore
10. Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11. Select Restore data
12. Select Yes – Restore data
13. WAIT!
14. REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)
PeterGuru said:
How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
This method works “perfectly” if you’re upgrading an existing ROM. However, I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work equally well even if you’re coming from another ROM. Either way, use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1.Boot into Recovery
2.Make a Nandroid backup
3.Wipe data/factory reset
4.Wipe cache partition
5.Wipe Dalvik Cache
6.Flash ROM
7.DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8.Select backup and restore
9.Select advanced restore
10.Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11.Select Restore data
12.Select Yes – Restore data
13.WAIT!
14.REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)
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Good to see you here from the one x. I'm glad to be back on Sammy. One x just had too many bugs for me and no memory card was a deal breaker.
This tutorial seems legit, I'm just concerned that doing this could overwrite mods the rom developer implements and cause issues. Any response to that concern?
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Usually use Titanium Backup myself, so I can selectively select which apps to restore with data. If you're going from a stock based ROM( stock modified ) to AOSP ( CM, AOKP, or any of their kangs ) then I don't think I'd recommend this shotgun method of restoring. However Stock -> Stock this is very fast and shouldn't cause any issues.
About mods, not sure, most mods are going to be in /system so those should be fine, however anything themed will be overwritten I believe. ( CWM wipes and restores, not an additive restore correct? )
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RubenRybnik said:
Usually use Titanium Backup myself, so I can selectively select which apps to restore with data. If you're going from a stock based ROM( stock modified ) to AOSP ( CM, AOKP, or any of their kangs ) then I don't think I'd recommend this shotgun method of restoring. However Stock -> Stock this is very fast and shouldn't cause any issues.
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Yes, Titanium has the advantage of allowing you to selectively restore apps, etc.
RubenRybnik said:
About mods, not sure, most mods are going to be in /system so those should be fine, however anything themed will be overwritten I believe. ( CWM wipes and restores, not an additive restore correct? )
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I completely agree. If you're sticking with a stock-based ROM, or up-dating almost ANY existing ROM, then this method should work just fine; however, like you said, I would not recommend it if going from stock to AOSP, or vice versa.
I would also agree concerning the mods, which are almost always in /system, and aren't the theme files anywhere BUT in the data folder? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Peter
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lessthanzach said:
Good to see you here from the one x. I'm glad to be back on Sammy. One x just had too many bugs for me and no memory card was a deal breaker.
This tutorial seems legit, I'm just concerned that doing this could overwrite mods the rom developer implements and cause issues. Any response to that concern?
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I would have to agree. I had far too many little glitches with my ONE X and ONE XL that were just too annoying. So far I could not be happier with the S3.
Peter
Good tip, Peter. I never knew about that one and it will come in handy for me!
Am I the only one who also formats /system in Recovery?
thank you for this! im jumping from stock to diet ics and this tip helped a lot.
im also coming from about a months use of HTC One X. its only been one day with this sg3 and i already prefer it over the htc one x.
Is ROM Manager still advisable or did Koush move on and it is an abandoned project like some of the reviews suggest in the Google Play store? I used to use this to flash and manage my NANDROID's and it was super easy.
P8TRIOT said:
Is ROM Manager still advisable or did Koush move on and it is an abandoned project like some of the reviews suggest in the Google Play store? I used to use this to flash and manage my NANDROID's and it was super easy.
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I just used his Rom manager to flash the AT&T recovery and it works great.
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PeterGuru said:
How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
This method works “perfectly” if you’re upgrading an existing ROM. However, I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work equally well even if you’re coming from another ROM. Either way, use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1. Boot into Recovery
2. Make a Nandroid backup
3. Wipe data/factory reset
4. Wipe cache partition
5. Wipe Dalvik Cache
6. Flash ROM
7. DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8. Select backup and restore
9. Select advanced restore
10. Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11. Select Restore data
12. Select Yes – Restore data
13. WAIT!
14. REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)
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When I had my old Droid X2 (MB870), this is the method I used all the time, and it was very simple and straightforward, if I am understanding you correctly, this method is conditional in that you have to be coming from an existing flashed ROM? So for instance I just rooted yesterday through Odin but am still on stock, this method wouldn't work for me? It would be awesome if this could be utilized universally for what ever (rooted state), is this in fact the case or what exactly is the specific condition if any?
I will be adding a cautionary note to the first post ...
P8TRIOT said:
When I had my old Droid X2 (MB870), this is the method I used all the time, and it was very simple and straightforward, if I am understanding you correctly, this method is conditional in that you have to be coming from an existing flashed ROM? So for instance I just rooted yesterday through Odin but am still on stock, this method wouldn't work for me? It would be awesome if this could be utilized universally for what ever (rooted state), is this in fact the case or what exactly is the specific condition if any?
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Although this will work under many different circumstances, there are a few very important restrictions, which I will add to the first post in a few minutes.
Peter
Not to with this but there is a software update be AT&T if installed will it take away root?
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Carrier up-dates may be disabled ...
dahlem said:
Not to with this but there is a software update be AT&T if installed will it take away root?
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Although I would like someone to confirm this, it is my belief that, if you root your device, then software up-dates from the carrier no longer work.
Peter
This works fine with ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM
This method I can confirm works perfectly with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM by smartguy044. I installed the Rom and restored everything from a previous stock setup that I did a nandroid of right before flashing. From start to finish the whole process took me less than the 10min as advertised. Just thought I would share just in case anyone was on the fence or concerned about using this with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM.
Thank you for the confirmation ...
hkeyman said:
This method I can confirm works perfectly with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM by smartguy044. I installed the Rom and restored everything from a previous stock setup that I did a nandroid of right before flashing. From start to finish the whole process took me less than the 10min as advertised. Just thought I would share just in case anyone was on the fence or concerned about using this with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM.
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Thank you for the confirmation.
I hope this helps those who are afraid to flash new ROMs because the entire process (from Nandroid to installing all apps and re-establishing settings), can take hours. I never really trusted Titanium, even though many do, so before hearing about this method, it would take me anywhere from 2-6 hours to get my device back to exactly how I want it, with all settings re-established. Flashing and installing apps wasn't the issue, which took me less than an hour. It's opening every single app and adjusting the settings that often took hours.
Peter
You really don't have to worry about restoring data if you flash a ROM that doesn't format the data partition. I have found that some/most don't wipe data. So you can just flash the ROM and reboot and go on your way. Of course do make a backup just in case.
I use TiBu 100% of the time. Never had it not work.
wgarrido said:
You really don't have to worry about restoring data if you flash a ROM that doesn't format the data partition. I have found that some/most don't wipe data. So you can just flash the ROM and reboot and go on your way. Of course do make a backup just in case.
I use TiBu 100% of the time. Never had it not work.
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You are correct in your suggestion "If" the Rom installed does not wipe or format the data. This is obviously a alternate, fast method for restoration of user data if needed in a pinch or just as a normal way of getting your configuration and apps back to the way you had them configured previously (either stock or on another similar installed ROM).
I am not sure what you meant by you use TiBu and not have it work? When restoring from TiBu you should always just restore missings Apps with Data and avoid anything System related as it would most likely overwrite anything that a ROM customization may have just installed and will cause issues whether minor or even serious. I would suggest only messing with system restore items if you absolutely know what you are doing. That aside I agree with Peter as TiBu as good as a backup as it is, its time consuming...but its another precautionary backup method needed as a just in case.
hkeyman said:
You are correct in your suggestion "If" the Rom installed does not wipe or format the data. This is obviously a alternate, fast method for restoration of user data if needed in a pinch or just as a normal way of getting your configuration and apps back to the way you had them configured previously (either stock or on another similar installed ROM).
I am not sure what you meant by you use TiBu and not have it work? When restoring from TiBu you should always just restore missings Apps with Data and avoid anything System related as it would most likely overwrite anything that a ROM customization may have just installed and will cause issues whether minor or even serious. I would suggest only messing with system restore items if you absolutely know what you are doing. That aside I agree with Peter as TiBu as good as a backup as it is, its time consuming...but its another precautionary backup method needed as a just in case.
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I was just saying that TiBu hasn't lost data or anything. I know about restoring system data. I have gotten away with restoring some of it in the past.
PeterGuru said:
Although I would like someone to confirm this, it is my belief that, if you root your device, then software up-dates from the carrier no longer work.
Peter
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OTA's should work with root as long as you are on stock and haven't altered your build.prop. On that note, I haven't heard anything about a Rogers update?
I haven't heard anything from Rogers, either ...
David Dee said:
OTA's should work with root as long as you are on stock and haven't altered your build.prop. On that note, I haven't heard anything about a Rogers update?
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I haven't heard anything from Rogers regarding an up-date, either.
And thank you for answering the OTA question.
Peter
It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.
bluefender said:
im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.
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I definitely believe the earlier days were easier. This was back during the GingerBread days, then HoneyComb was skipped by my device at the time and ICS became the big bad boy on the playground. Less security measures, easier exploits, etc. A lot of stuff has remain the same. I think the hardest part with Xiaomi was waiting the 168 hours to unlock the phone.
Also I think I answered my original question. i had my backup set to go to the sd card and when I changed it to internal storage, it finally backed up all. I did a little research and from what I saw you should be backing up boot, data, and system. I saw system image and not system so I was confused. Looked up a couple more things and just like backing up a computer, it doesnt hurt to backup everything. So I backed up every single partition.
I also know I can backup using adb, just wanna make sure I have a backup on my phone in case I'm nowhere near my computer. 1 backup on phone, 1 backup on computer. Not really worried about bricking my little gingko since it's not the actual phone I used.
qandres12 said:
It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates
haha cwm vs twrp tried both over the years, different phones etc, twrp imho had a better interface, and updates..but it had one glitch, sometimes on versions it would not save region and time, but thats all the by and by now, i assume..we have orangefox now, nad has that fixed the time error?
im still reluctant to root my note 8t, probably sell it, as it has not led notification sadly, probably get the note 8 pro.
arshy said:
Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates
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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.
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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.
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Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.
arshy said:
Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.
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Camera isnt a big deal. I've seen that all AOSP roms have that camera issues from reading the reads. Kinda sucky for people that want to use daily drivers.
Just wondering what everyone else is using for backups (apps, app data, internal storage, sms/mms, etc.), particularly if you're switching between ROMs or anything else that involves wiping periodically. I love experimenting with custom ROMs but I hate the wipe/restore that goes with it, and I almost always lose data when I soft-brick. I also often lose data when intentionally wiping to flash a different ROM and my app data fails to restore. Anyone have a flawless solution for always staying backed up (preferably on a schedule) and always restoring successfully?
Things I've tried:
* Migrate: Earlier versions had restoration problems, but these days it's more reliable. I do a full backup before any intentional upgrade or ROM flash, then copy to a computer manually, and it usually restores successfully
* SwiftBackup: Limited options, but the nightly schedule keeps most of my data backed up to the cloud and has restored successfully about 95% of the time
* Titanium Backup: Was beyond perfect, but discontinued
* OAndXBackup: Seemed like an okay replacement for TiBu but the only time I tried to restore it failed
* AlphaBackup: Flexible manual backups but limited auto backup options. Haven't tried to restore
What else is out there? I especially miss the options for TiBu where I could back up everything once a week and then backup "apps with modified data" nightly. Nothing else I've found has that specific option.
Powerful, efficient, configurable, scheduled https://github.com/VR-25/migrator
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Powerful, efficient, configurable, scheduled https://github.com/VR-25/migrator
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Looks great! I'll definitely give it a try. As a Linux person I love that the help section is written like a man page. How's actual real-world success in restoration?
I have searched on github for a zip to install, but nowhere to be found, so no magisk installable zip.
Then I saw that there is an issue that after using the app for a backup it breaks every app on the device.
So this is both not installable nor stable.
I may have used Titanium since Android 7, until Android 12 Titanium is still running well
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I may have used Titanium since Android 7, until Android 12 Titanium is still running well
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TiBu development was stopped at least a couple of years ago and I've had all sorts of issues since Android 10. App freezes when it encounters certain apps, it can't handle split apks, restored apps tend to crash, etc. Glad it's working for you, but that hasn't been my experience the last couple of years.
Titanium still has some usefulness, but is definitely outdated!
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Just wondering what everyone else is using for backups (apps, app data, internal storage, sms/mms, etc.), particularly if you're switching between ROMs or anything else that involves wiping periodically. I love experimenting with custom ROMs but I hate the wipe/restore that goes with it, and I almost always lose data when I soft-brick. I also often lose data when intentionally wiping to flash a different ROM and my app data fails to restore. Anyone have a flawless solution for always staying backed up (preferably on a schedule) and always restoring successfully?
Things I've tried:
* Migrate: Earlier versions had restoration problems, but these days it's more reliable. I do a full backup before any intentional upgrade or ROM flash, then copy to a computer manually, and it usually restores successfully
* SwiftBackup: Limited options, but the nightly schedule keeps most of my data backed up to the cloud and has restored successfully about 95% of the time
* Titanium Backup: Was beyond perfect, but discontinued
* OAndXBackup: Seemed like an okay replacement for TiBu but the only time I tried to restore it failed
* AlphaBackup: Flexible manual backups but limited auto backup options. Haven't tried to restore
What else is out there? I especially miss the options for TiBu where I could back up everything once a week and then backup "apps with modified data" nightly. Nothing else I've found has that specific option.
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How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
razercortex said:
How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
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I'm not familiar with the options in TWRP other than making a full nandroid or partition backup (which is huge since I keep a lot of data on my phone). Are there other options? Does it have a way to back up apps and app data? I also assume TWRP doesn't support Android 12 on this device yet?
It should work regardless of the Android version, but I'll stop myself from making assumptions.
Some custom recoveries like OrangeFox have app specific backup, though it's quite unstable. So a full nandroid backup may be your best bet. Try compression, it may reduce the backup size.
TWRP isn't available for 12 yet that I'm aware of. The last update that went official stated in the changelog that the recent update should make it easier to port it for A12. Flashing/booting it on an A12 rob will send you straight back to bootloader.
Titanium is indeed old, discontinued and had a terrible UX, but still works (Android 11).
Swift Backup has matured a lot, I believe is the complete replacement for Titanium.
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How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
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Because twrp cannot use my external USB flash card, it's unusable. I have to make a full backup on internal data and then export that, but how could I ever restore if needed?
I wished twrp would work, had that half of my life on my phones, but not on this one until this works. Twrp on oneplus9 I'm seeing too much problems atm.
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Because twrp cannot use my external USB flash card, it's unusable. I have to make a full backup on internal data and then export that, but how could I ever restore if needed?
I wished twrp would work, had that half of my life on my phones, but not on this one until this works. Twrp on oneplus9 I'm seeing too much problems atm.
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Ah I see. Thank you for clarifying.
I've had my pixel for some time and still don't fully understand how to test roms on the phone - more specifically how to backup/restore. (I have always used twrp in the past).
Currently I am on the stock rom - I would like to try ricedroid , lineage and possibly go back to stock . I have no issues installing roms, what is unclear is what/how has to be backed up ( i have neo installed) and how to go back to a previous rom ,retaining data. Is it even possible?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks
Hmm - guess the lack of any response indicates that either my question is too stupid to bother replying to or that there is no simple way to test roms on this device.
I'm not sure of the question in general or how to answer it. I just normally just flash robs and then I will go back and reinstall all my apps again
I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.
StanWiz said:
I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.
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Unfortunately, the old days of nandroid backups are gone. I use swift and google one to backup my data and apps. I clean flash every new rom and restore data. it definitely takes longer than restoring a nandroid backup.
I do know that someone was working on TWRP at some point no ETA with that coming out.
Did someone say TWRP? I'm hopeful that once Android 13 TWRP comes out someone will port it to 6 pro. As for your question, there's no easy way to restore a back up. You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.
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........ You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.
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Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
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StanWiz said:
Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
Thanks
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I'd suggest you check CrDroid if you haven't had a look at It yet. You can also load GSI if you don't want to flash everything all the time but support is limited and it may or may not work. Until TWRP is out, our options are limited
Wanted to keep a thread for each one opinion on custom roms and why do you choose the rom you are using?
i have tried al custom roms and i always love to flash different ones,
What do you notice regarding stability? performance? battery ? bugs? etc in the rom you are using.
Love to hear all your opinions on this matter.
last time i flashed a custom ROM 10years ago. No need to flash anything since. All factory stock.
All i did for every phone is bloatware removal via ADB
I've only ever used the stock rom since I've had this phone. Using A11, A12 and now A13.
Only 1 annoyances during my time with this phone and stock ROM. ( Camera related blue light bleeding in a very bright artificially lit scenario )
Always stock rom with Root these days
Holy smokes. It's ok to not answer a question if it doesn't apply. Pardon my double negative.
I've been contemplating moving on from to stock to custom, when I came across this thread and thought, well this will be great; several viewpoints about several custom roms, but instead came across a few responses that didn't answer the question that was asked.
It's hard to sift though the roms' threads because, in most cases, you'll see "this is a great rom, everything works perfectly", almost immediately followed by "stuck in a boot loop", "looks like msm again", or "xyz is borked, please fix".
So, to reiterate og's question, what are the thoughts on the custom roms (not stock) for the 1+9pro (not a device from your past)?
Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.
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Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.
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You favor nameless I'm guessing?
It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.
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It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.
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I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)
Los20 Google free
Without gapps, store and ps apps
been on nameless for about 6 months, no complaints
Running my own fork of LineageOS 19 with features cherry-picked from other ROMs (nothing against them but I don't need the extra 30 fazillion features they offer when a handful of features I want does the job just fine). Once LineageOS 20 builds resume with fixes for some of the major issues in place (see the LOS 20 thread for OP9Pro), I'll be upgrading to the New Hotness (I've already made the necessary changes and tested them on my OP7Pro test phone, I'm just waiting for the all-clear for the OP9Pro).
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I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)
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Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?
I kept mine as stock w/root since I got it. Just reflashed and I was blown away with how much nicer it feels. Even with the amount of work I'd done to kill bloatware, background processes, etc on the stock rom.
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Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?
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thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.
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thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.
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Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
Or
- follow root guide on this forum
Tried about every rom posted that I can find. A lot of nice roms, depends on what you want for customization. The one I prefer is Xtended. Been back and forth since A11 each one a little nicer. The latest -- v5 is best for me. I always go back to it. Currently on stock OOS13. Not all that bad with little tweaking. My disappointment is the lack of kernel development for the phone after A11. I guess the sources released by OnePlus a mess. Waiting for Ancient to be released. Could be nice.
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Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
Or
- follow root guide on this forum
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really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD
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really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD
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Haha, glad I could help! Memory is my biggest downfall as well, so you're not alone lol
Other backup options I like - tarb and Neo Backup. Swift I don't like because it only stores the latest backup, and the google play tied licensing is annoying when bouncing between various devices.
Used to love titanium backup but it never works successfully for me anymore