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[Q] need some help with this

ok, i just got a captivate glide from my gf, ive been looking into flashing and rooting for about 3 months, but i JUST got an android (ik so behind) but originally i was looking into sidekick 4g for keyboard but this worked too in my eyes and it was free so i figured why not, but either way i wanted to root and flash, but now im at a barricade that im not sure if to continue or not, i rooted using one of the threads directions
this one to be exact
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378082
i ran into a barricade here at first, the initial set up wouldnt run, i fixed that by doing the Vol. Down plus Power recovery mode i think its called, and clearing memory then rebooting and it worked fine, i was rooted and had the super user app as well (some boxes from widgets were invosible like accuweather and the android assistant thing but, thats ok).
ok next step i knew if i was supposed to try to flash a rom i should back up EFS which i did with some difficulty (such as figuring out i needed busybox lol)
ok now my next step was installing ROM manager by clockworkmods
NOW onto the actual part i need help with that i couldnt figure out myself (and excuse me for being newbish here too as i dont know much but im not bad with tech either but i felt i damn near bricked the phone in the process already so i WANT to continue with guidance before i do anything else)
now that im rooted, now that everythings backed up on my computer and ive got rommanager and everything
what now
will i still be rooted once i flash a rom? will i still have busy box, super user, all of that stuff? (as the thread i rooted with clearly said that was flashing a rooted rom)
and theres some other personalization questions i need help with too but thats more towards once ik what direction im going in
and uh.. not sure if it matters but im on metropcs service, so occasionally i get issues if i have to reset the phone at all as i have to change the ANP or ADP cant remember the acronym but ive got to change it from some t-mobile one to the metropcs one, i dont see why that would matter but, its a just in case emasure, also im using the ATT one not rodgers (not even sure what rodgers is tbh)
EDIT: OH one last thing. the rooted rom is gingerbread.. thats my main reason for wanting to change it.. i want kitkat, or would prefer kitkat, but id like some opinions as well on what perhaps the best ROM would be, im not sure between omni-rom and cyanogynmod which are the main ones im looking into, but, again, get more into that later

ok now
now im looking through the Rom info.. and.. im starting to wonder.. is it even worth it?
what sacrifices am i going to be making if i flash a custom? what all can i change without flashing a custom? and can i still get kitkat without screwing up my root (KIES?? or ODIN??) its just the things like this that make me wonder... i want the root, that much i DO know, theres so much i can do with rooting im seeing this and enjoying this, but i just need some type of guidance as to what to do, and if theres a better place for this thread please feel free to move it as i do see that it might be ok to have under general ndroid questions, but, i wasnt all too sure on it as this isthe phone im using so any issues deriving from the phone type might screw someone up

Most of the custom roms are rooted already.
There is only 4.0 official, no kitkat. We dont have odin custom images, nor KIES. You must wipe your data, system, boot parition, install KK means clean phone for you.
I think KK is better then official, but it has some limitation.

bubor said:
Most of the custom roms are rooted already.
There is only 4.0 official, no kitkat. We dont have odin custom images, nor KIES. You must wipe your data, system, boot parition, install KK means clean phone for you.
I think KK is better then official, but it has some limitation.
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ok.. im confused then, cause i had kitkat on it when i used kies to update firmware, or atleast i thought i did, perhaps because both had 4 and i was sleepy i was confused lol, and sorry but if KK doesnt mean KitKat then what does it mean. and how high will a custom Rom take me in terms of lining up with official, just to ice cream sandwich?. and.. cyanogenmod, ive been tempted to get it but.. im not sure exactly which one to get because when i was on the site i only found captivate in the devices not captivate glide
EDIT: one more thing, as far as wiping the phone clean and starting over, what do i use.
and of course if you say the rest are rooted, then whats one of the best kernels and roms to use then, its true i want atleast ICS on here, so.. if im right i looked up KK, do you mean KKlauncher the app?

well...
ok i soft bricked my phone, it just shut down in middle of installing some fonts, and for some reason i cant restore it even tho i created a back up as it advised me to do so, i get errors in CWM recovery,
now im about to just do this
using this as a sort of reference so people can keep track of me if something else happens that i mess up..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890125

miseryvein said:
ok.. im confused then, cause i had kitkat on it when i used kies to update firmware, or atleast i thought i did, perhaps because both had 4 and i was sleepy i was confused lol, and sorry but if KK doesnt mean KitKat then what does it mean. and how high will a custom Rom take me in terms of lining up with official, just to ice cream sandwich?. and.. cyanogenmod, ive been tempted to get it but.. im not sure exactly which one to get because when i was on the site i only found captivate in the devices not captivate glide
EDIT: one more thing, as far as wiping the phone clean and starting over, what do i use.
and of course if you say the rest are rooted, then whats one of the best kernels and roms to use then, its true i want atleast ICS on here, so.. if im right i looked up KK, do you mean KKlauncher the app?
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I mean KK is kitkat. I dont know what did you read, but there is ICS the last official.
Cyanogenmod and other custom roms has own official support, that what you can download rom their site. We dont have official support from them, you cant download those roms from there. You can found download link in rom's threads.
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2623635
I preffer CM11, but yon can found many other KK roms.
If you brick you randroid, just reinstall same you had.

bubor said:
I mean KK is kitkat. I dont know what did you read, but there is ICS the last official.
Cyanogenmod and other custom roms has own official support, that what you can download rom their site. We dont have official support from them, you cant download those roms from there. You can found download link in rom's threads.
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2623635
I preffer CM11, but yon can found many other KK roms.
If you brick you randroid, just reinstall same you had.
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hell i got it back on default ICS now lol, i screwed it up XD and yea ik you guys dont have the downloads your selves but the links and guidance of what i should be doing is basically what i was after ill look at the link you gave me, i think im going to chill out with the flashing right this second, but ill pick it back up later im sure, i atleast liked the cpu setting apps. made my battery last much longer and for what time it lasted i loved it

ok another thing im concerned with is alot have bugs that are deal breakers for me, such as messing up the keyboard (the whole reason i have this phone)
and looking through it i do like CM11 too
but looking at your post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588304
can you explain what you mean by the fixed rotation and skype issues,
and perhaps is there a full feature list somewhere? thats one big thing i want to look at if possible, i usually just keep seeing bug fixes on any ROM

Voip apps (skype,vibert etc) have strange sound, only temporaly fix exists.
When you take a picture with camera, it has fix rotation, I dont remember witch position is the fixed one, but you make photos with different rotation, the picture will be rotate 90/180/270, and you must fix the image.
Most importan bug are: phone call sound doesnt work with BT devices, and voip sound is buggy.

Need help wiping EVERYTHING!!!

Okay this is really getting on my nerves and I've never had this much problem from a phone. I've been modding and helping develop for years, but I've never had this issue. So for five days now, I've been playing around with my old DINC that my daughter messed up somehow, and I can't install a ROM and make it work to save my life. I've run countless ROM's on this thing in the past with no issues. The problem now is, no matter what recovery I use or what I wipe, all of the old apps keep showing up on boot and crashes the phone. Meaning while it says "Android is upgrading" it shows every app that has ever been installed on this phone, even though I wipe and format every partition, and I haven't installed a single app. Heck... I can't even get into the system to install an app. The furthest I've gotten on a clean install is to pick a launcher in Carbon, but then it reboots.
Someone please help with a solution if you know one. I would hate to make a mess on the concrete outside with this phone, but I'm almost to that point. Thank you in advance!

ludeawakening said:
Someone please help with a solution if you know one. I would hate to make a mess on the concrete outside with this phone, but I'm almost to that point. Thank you in advance!
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What recovery are you running?
I've been using CWM 5.0.2.0 since 2011 and haven't had an issue, and I still flash things on it. I found an active mediafire link with it from a post on Rootzwiki that is flashable through HBOOT. Just put it on the root/top level of an SD card formatted FAT32 and it will load the recovery image, press volume up to flash it, then you should be on an up to date recovery and you can try wiping from there. I had issues with some of the older ones and TWRPs earlier versions.
I'd also recommend CyanogenMod 7.2 stable, but that's just what I've ran the last few years. Never had an issue with it and it is stable as can be. Always a good start. In fact, it's more stable than stock on my phone, plus I over clock a bit.
It's a good device to have around when you have to send in your current device for exchange or damage it etc. I used it full time not long ago while exchanging my M8.

BrettApple said:
What recovery are you running?
I've been using CWM 5.0.2.0 since 2011 and haven't had an issue, and I still flash things on it. I found an active mediafire link with it from a post on Rootzwiki that is flashable through HBOOT. Just put it on the root/top level of an SD card formatted FAT32 and it will load the recovery image, press volume up to flash it, then you should be on an up to date recovery and you can try wiping from there. I had issues with some of the older ones and TWRPs earlier versions.
I'd also recommend CyanogenMod 7.2 stable, but that's just what I've ran the last few years. Never had an issue with it and it is stable as can be. Always a good start. In fact, it's more stable than stock on my phone, plus I over clock a bit.
It's a good device to have around when you have to send in your current device for exchange or damage it etc. I used it full time not long ago while exchanging my M8.
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I've tried every recovery you can think of for this device. All versions of the CWM and TWRP touch and non-touch, including CWM 5.0.2.0. And I use HBOOT to flash all of the recoveries. It doesn't matter what ROM or recovery I flash, I still get the same results. And the ROM I used the most on this phone was Condemned CM7.2, but like I said, it won't matter how stable a ROM is, I can't get it to boot to even use it now. For some reason there is a partition somewhere that will not wipe. I've used VR Superwipe, which was recommended on some ROM's in the past, but it doesn't help at all either. No matter what, while booting for the first time, it still shows every app that has ever been installed to this device over the years, which causes everything to crash or just immediately reboot. All of the apps crash even if I go back completely stock by flashing a PB31IMG of stock firmware with HBOOT. That includes trying it with S-ON and S-OFF. As you can tell, this isn't my first rodeo at all. Lol
I've been doing this for years and have helped develop ROM's on a couple of sites, but I've never seen or heard of anything like this. Thanks for the input though.
I guess I'll risk completely bricking it, and manually re-partition the device and push the bootloader and everything else to it with ADB Shell. I've got nothing to lose, it's already a paperweight that just lights up. Haha

ludeawakening said:
No matter what, while booting for the first time, it still shows every app that has ever been installed to this device over the years, which causes everything to crash or just immediately reboot.
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Sounds like a bad NAND to me (like one partition is fried and is now read-only). Good luck with the repartitioning. If you're feeling adventurous, you could try this. If you're feeling really adventurous, I seem to remember reading a post from someone who had actually unsoldered the NAND chip and got the phone to boot using only an sdcard. I can't find the post right now though.

Question Testing roms on p6p

I've had my pixel for some time and still don't fully understand how to test roms on the phone - more specifically how to backup/restore. (I have always used twrp in the past).
Currently I am on the stock rom - I would like to try ricedroid , lineage and possibly go back to stock . I have no issues installing roms, what is unclear is what/how has to be backed up ( i have neo installed) and how to go back to a previous rom ,retaining data. Is it even possible?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hmm - guess the lack of any response indicates that either my question is too stupid to bother replying to or that there is no simple way to test roms on this device.

I'm not sure of the question in general or how to answer it. I just normally just flash robs and then I will go back and reinstall all my apps again

I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.

StanWiz said:
I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.
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Unfortunately, the old days of nandroid backups are gone. I use swift and google one to backup my data and apps. I clean flash every new rom and restore data. it definitely takes longer than restoring a nandroid backup.

I do know that someone was working on TWRP at some point no ETA with that coming out.

Did someone say TWRP? I'm hopeful that once Android 13 TWRP comes out someone will port it to 6 pro. As for your question, there's no easy way to restore a back up. You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.

ir0nb3rg said:
........ You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.
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Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
Thanks

StanWiz said:
Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
Thanks
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I'd suggest you check CrDroid if you haven't had a look at It yet. You can also load GSI if you don't want to flash everything all the time but support is limited and it may or may not work. Until TWRP is out, our options are limited

Question Opinions about preferred custom roms differences and why do you choose it ?

Wanted to keep a thread for each one opinion on custom roms and why do you choose the rom you are using?
i have tried al custom roms and i always love to flash different ones,
What do you notice regarding stability? performance? battery ? bugs? etc in the rom you are using.
Love to hear all your opinions on this matter.

last time i flashed a custom ROM 10years ago. No need to flash anything since. All factory stock.
All i did for every phone is bloatware removal via ADB

I've only ever used the stock rom since I've had this phone. Using A11, A12 and now A13.
Only 1 annoyances during my time with this phone and stock ROM. ( Camera related blue light bleeding in a very bright artificially lit scenario )

Always stock rom with Root these days

Holy smokes. It's ok to not answer a question if it doesn't apply. Pardon my double negative.
I've been contemplating moving on from to stock to custom, when I came across this thread and thought, well this will be great; several viewpoints about several custom roms, but instead came across a few responses that didn't answer the question that was asked.
It's hard to sift though the roms' threads because, in most cases, you'll see "this is a great rom, everything works perfectly", almost immediately followed by "stuck in a boot loop", "looks like msm again", or "xyz is borked, please fix".
So, to reiterate og's question, what are the thoughts on the custom roms (not stock) for the 1+9pro (not a device from your past)?

Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.

kodayoda713 said:
Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.
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You favor nameless I'm guessing?

It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.

kodayoda713 said:
It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.
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I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)

Los20 Google free
Without gapps, store and ps apps

been on nameless for about 6 months, no complaints

Running my own fork of LineageOS 19 with features cherry-picked from other ROMs (nothing against them but I don't need the extra 30 fazillion features they offer when a handful of features I want does the job just fine). Once LineageOS 20 builds resume with fixes for some of the major issues in place (see the LOS 20 thread for OP9Pro), I'll be upgrading to the New Hotness (I've already made the necessary changes and tested them on my OP7Pro test phone, I'm just waiting for the all-clear for the OP9Pro).

spamerobaldomero said:
I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)
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Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?

I kept mine as stock w/root since I got it. Just reflashed and I was blown away with how much nicer it feels. Even with the amount of work I'd done to kill bloatware, background processes, etc on the stock rom.

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Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?
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thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.

spamerobaldomero said:
thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.
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Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
Or
- follow root guide on this forum

Tried about every rom posted that I can find. A lot of nice roms, depends on what you want for customization. The one I prefer is Xtended. Been back and forth since A11 each one a little nicer. The latest -- v5 is best for me. I always go back to it. Currently on stock OOS13. Not all that bad with little tweaking. My disappointment is the lack of kernel development for the phone after A11. I guess the sources released by OnePlus a mess. Waiting for Ancient to be released. Could be nice.

kodayoda713 said:
Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
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- follow root guide on this forum
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really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD

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really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD
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Haha, glad I could help! Memory is my biggest downfall as well, so you're not alone lol

Other backup options I like - tarb and Neo Backup. Swift I don't like because it only stores the latest backup, and the google play tied licensing is annoying when bouncing between various devices.
Used to love titanium backup but it never works successfully for me anymore

Question What do you do without twrp?

I miss the old days with twrp. If I wanted to try another rom, no problem, use twrp to do a full backup. Try the rom. If I don't like it then twrp puts it back on the system and everything just worked perfectly.
I've tried programs like swift backup and titanium backup but they never do a proper full backup. It always says couldn't restore this or that. Permissions are screwed up a lot of the time. Cache or apps malfunction. It isn't smooth and has caused me to stop using roms, kernels or taking big chances with programs that could break the system.
What can I do to complete a proper backup of the full os and then easy restore if I screw something up similar to the way twrp used too?

I asked the same question when I acquired my p6p - answer is there is no simple way to test roms on this device. Saving/restoring roms is a convoluted, human error prone process - imho testing roms isn't worth the risk/effort.
My next next device will have twrp support.

icanrule said:
I miss the old days with twrp. If I wanted to try another rom, no problem, use twrp to do a full backup. Try the rom. If I don't like it then twrp puts it back on the system and everything just worked perfectly.
I've tried programs like swift backup and titanium backup but they never do a proper full backup. It always says couldn't restore this or that. Permissions are screwed up a lot of the time. Cache or apps malfunction. It isn't smooth and has caused me to stop using roms, kernels or taking big chances with programs that could break the system.
What can I do to complete a proper backup of the full os and then easy restore if I screw something up similar to the way twrp used too?
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Omg, this!! I pretty much just asked the same thing, there has to be a better option other than Swift Backup. I currently use Swift to backup all apps, etc. Then flash new ROM to try out, restore with Swift, then have to manually reset everything else up. Its time consuming but does get the job done. I haven't had any stability issues thus far, but like I said this can't be our best option... Come on it's 2023 the custom ROM scene has come a far way to have this being the best we can do lol. But then again this is coming from someone that has little knowledge of how things work on the system level.

Lineage os has its own recovery, but I'm not sure you can back up with it. I use swift with my openssh server gets the job done, but I agree it's a pain having to login again etc.

I miss TWRP too. I even treated the title as "What do you do **with** TWRP?" and took it for granted that TWRP for the latest Pixel phones is ready.

bush911 said:
I miss TWRP too. I even treated the title as "What do you do **with** TWRP?" and took it for granted that TWRP for the latest Pixel phones is ready.
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what new phone brands do have twrp nowadays tho?

Stumbled upon this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...tom-rom-migration-tool.3862763/#post-78060823
Looks promising. I tested on 1 app like it suggests, and had no issues.