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Alright, so I rooted my Dinc yesterday, and there are several ROM's that I want to try out but am a little confused about a couple of things and the more I'm searching and reading, the more I'm getting confused. I'm probably over-analyzing it but I wanted to make sure before I venture on just to be safe. So if ya'll don't mind (as I'm sure these are total n00b questions that have been asked before):
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
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1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
RMarkwald said:
1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
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Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
badogg said:
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
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It backs up EVERYTHING. Literally.
It returns your phone to the EXACT state that it was in when you did the Nanadroid backup. Every single phone call, setting, data, EVERYTHING.
badogg said:
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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Roms come with their own kernels. just like roms, some kernels offer different tweaks to improve battery life and/or improve performance.
badogg said:
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
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i would also like to thank all the devs out there. while verizon is ending the life of the incredible, this community keeps it alive.
badogg said:
Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
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No problem!
O.M.G...
I loaded the CM7 nightly ROM and holy cow it has re-invigorated my Dinc. It is WAY snappier than it was before. Seems better on battery life so far.
LOVE the UI.
I am thinking of trying out other ROM's, but this CM7 ROM is seriously the shizz...
Thanks for this post, it clears up a few things for me as well.
Sent from my ADR6300 using......blah blah you get the idea.
So i bought a FreedomPop LG G3 on sale and i ended up activating it to FreedomPop and i rooted it, and im wondering if i can install Marshmallow or cygn on it, my concern is.. before i bought the LG G3 i had a first Gen MOTO G from TextNow with there own unique ROM and when i installed lollipop on it, since the phone has no sim card the phone lost connection to TextNow and was basically useless outside the house so i had to ask TextNow to send me their unique Rom which they did and after installing it everything came back to normal.
now my lg g3 has a sim card slot, and came with sprint apps on it and showing sprint on lockscreen and everything. calls can be made from the android call app but texts messages are only available through FreedomPop text app.
i asked FreedomPop to unlock my phone and they said no problem doing it for me but i ended up not doing it since i do want to stay with them but then i want a different ROM.
so my questions are:
1.is there a way to backup an stock rom that came with the device so i can restore it just like i did on my TextNow incase i lose connection like before?
2.is there a way to backup FreedomPop like apps and restore it after changing the rom? will they work after installing them?
3.should i install a different rom?
4.anyone had an experience with such "locked" phones or even FreedomPop phone and can tell me how did it work for him?
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So i bought a FreedomPop LG G3 on sale and i ended up activating it to FreedomPop and i rooted it, and im wondering if i can install Marshmallow or cygn on it, my concern is.. before i bought the LG G3 i had a first Gen MOTO G from TextNow with there own unique ROM and when i installed lollipop on it, since the phone has no sim card the phone lost connection to TextNow and was basically useless outside the house so i had to ask TextNow to send me their unique Rom which they did and after installing it everything came back to normal.
now my lg g3 has a sim card slot, and came with sprint apps on it and showing sprint on lockscreen and everything. calls can be made from the android call app but texts messages are only available through FreedomPop text app.
i asked FreedomPop to unlock my phone and they said no problem doing it for me but i ended up not doing it since i do want to stay with them but then i want a different ROM.
so my questions are:
1.is there a way to backup an stock rom that came with the device so i can restore it just like i did on my TextNow incase i lose connection like before?
2.is there a way to backup FreedomPop like apps and restore it after changing the rom? will they work after installing them?
3.should i install a different rom?
4.anyone had an experience with such "locked" phones or even FreedomPop phone and can tell me how did it work for him?
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If it has sprint apps it is probably an ls990; check in "about phone" settings to make sure. So basically follow the ls990 thread(s) to see how to get recovery on it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3 . Since you have root already installing a recovery should be a simple process via flashify or autorec apps - but you need to absolutely make sure you install the correct recovery file with the bump exploit or you may softbrick and have to restore with a PC. (bump is an lg g3 exploit needed for our device as we don't have a true bootloader unlock)
Re #1: if/when you put TWRP recovery on your phone you can make a backup of your freedompop stock ROM so you can restore it if you need to.
Re #2: since you're rooted you can backup all of your apps and their data with titanium or something similar. I use titanium pro because it allows you to make a zip file you can flash in TWRP while flashing your ROM, gapps, etc. & it restores your app data too; super convenient time saver. As far as will the freedompop apps work on a different ROM - they should; trying to restore them and see if they work might be the best way to go there. As long as you have a ROM backup you can restore - why not give em a try?
Re #3: that's subjective and up to you. Some people prefer stock features(especially the camera) and some xposed mods to get some extra tweaks, some people prefer custom ROMs with tons of features and the newest Android version. Again, that's on you to decide. BTW, if you do go custom ROM there are decent camera ports available that come close to stock quality.
Re #4: I have not, but I'm guessing you may need to take note of your APN settings before you change ROMs as they may be unique to freedompop & could mess up your data/text if they are not set right. That seems to be the biggest issue with people using different carriers.
Good luck & hope you enjoy your G3
LS990ZVC
Hey and thanks for your reply, yes my phone is the ls990ZVC (by the way on phone settings under brand it says "sprint" and not FreedomPop)
Q1.what do you mean by get recovery? you mean a costume recovery program on the devices main boot in-case of a problem that will replace the original recovering stock program?
Q#1. the thread you posted is for unlocking the phone? what benefits do i get from it? will i lose the 4G LTE speed like it says on the thread if i do it?
Q#2.i dont care much about camera features and also not looking for a lot of tweaks all i look for is to keep my ram and cpu power low and there for available at all time so basically having the phone act and react as fast as possible. can i achieve that with one of the different roms or having stock marshmallow installed?
Q#3. where do i get my APN settings?
Q#4. I think i know the answer to this but ill ask anyway, having TWRP recovery can save my device from softbrick right?
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If it has sprint apps it is probably an ls990; check in "about phone" settings to make sure. So basically follow the ls990 thread(s) to see how to get recovery on it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3 . Since you have root already installing a recovery should be a simple process via flashify or autorec apps - but you need to absolutely make sure you install the correct recovery file with the bump exploit or you may softbrick and have to restore with a PC. (bump is an lg g3 exploit needed for our device as we don't have a true bootloader unlock)
Re #1: if/when you put TWRP recovery on your phone you can make a backup of your freedompop stock ROM so you can restore it if you need to.
Re #2: since you're rooted you can backup all of your apps and their data with titanium or something similar. I use titanium pro because it allows you to make a zip file you can flash in TWRP while flashing your ROM, gapps, etc. & it restores your app data too; super convenient time saver. As far as will the freedompop apps work on a different ROM - they should; trying to restore them and see if they work might be the best way to go there. As long as you have a ROM backup you can restore - why not give em a try?
Re #3: that's subjective and up to you. Some people prefer stock features(especially the camera) and some xposed mods to get some extra tweaks, some people prefer custom ROMs with tons of features and the newest Android version. Again, that's on you to decide. BTW, if you do go custom ROM there are decent camera ports available that come close to stock quality.
Re #4: I have not, but I'm guessing you may need to take note of your APN settings before you change ROMs as they may be unique to freedompop & could mess up your data/text if they are not set right. That seems to be the biggest issue with people using different carriers.
Good luck & hope you enjoy your G3
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shayo said:
Hey and thanks for your reply, yes my phone is the ls990ZVC (by the way on phone settings under brand it says "sprint" and not FreedomPop)
Q1.what do you mean by get recovery? you mean a costume recovery program on the devices main boot in-case of a problem that will replace the original recovering stock program?
Q#1. the thread you posted is for unlocking the phone? what benefits do i get from it? will i lose the 4G LTE speed like it says on the thread if i do it?
Q#2.i dont care much about camera features and also not looking for a lot of tweaks all i look for is to keep my ram and cpu power low and there for available at all time so basically having the phone act and react as fast as possible. can i achieve that with one of the different roms or having stock marshmallow installed?
Q#3. where do i get my APN settings?
Q#4. I think i know the answer to this but ill ask anyway, having TWRP recovery can save my device from softbrick right?
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Hey...sorry I missed the notification that you responded...my bad.
Recovery - TWRP recovery which allows you to backup your current ROM, wipe your device, and install ROMs. You have to have it installed if you want to run any custom ROMs. It is imperative that you use the correct file or you may bork all your software, softbrick, and re-flash on a PC. If you are unsure on how to install TWRP then read, read & ask questions in the appropriate forums - & watch youtube videos if you need guidance on how to install it.
The link I posted was for your device. You can search in the threads for anything from ROMs, TWRP, root, kernels, and troubleshooting if you get stuck.
Stock marshmallow is pretty quick & there are some pure AOSP or basic CM builds available that may suit your needs...just have to sample for yourself to see what's best.
APN settings: settings, cellular networks, access point names; if you see a feedompop apn(or anything that isn't sprint) write down the fields, or take a screenshot and email it to yourself for reference.
Having TWRP recovery saves you from your mistakes. Once you get it installed you can make backups that you can always restore if you experiment with new ROMs or tweaks, etc. It is the backbone of flashing and modifying your phone.
Again, sorry for leaving you hanging. I'll pay closer attention to my notifications in the future
startswithPendswithOOH said:
Hey...sorry I missed the notification that you responded...my bad.
Recovery - TWRP recovery which allows you to backup your current ROM, wipe your device, and install ROMs. You have to have it installed if you want to run any custom ROMs. It is imperative that you use the correct file or you may bork all your software, softbrick, and re-flash on a PC. If you are unsure on how to install TWRP then read, read & ask questions in the appropriate forums - & watch youtube videos if you need guidance on how to install it.
The link I posted was for your device. You can search in the threads for anything from ROMs, TWRP, root, kernels, and troubleshooting if you get stuck.
Stock marshmallow is pretty quick & there are some pure AOSP or basic CM builds available that may suit your needs...just have to sample for yourself to see what's best.
APN settings: settings, cellular networks, access point names; if you see a feedompop apn(or anything that isn't sprint) write down the fields, or take a screenshot and email it to yourself for reference.
Having TWRP recovery saves you from your mistakes. Once you get it installed you can make backups that you can always restore if you experiment with new ROMs or tweaks, etc. It is the backbone of flashing and modifying your phone.
Again, sorry for leaving you hanging. I'll pay closer attention to my notifications in the future
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So i went with liquid smooth rom and after having some issues with titanium backup restoring apps i tried a few things and ended up having all system apps crashing on boot (dialer etc...) so i restored back to stock rom and everything works fine but now when i wanted to go back to liquid smooth TWRP says i cant and that the install files might be incomplete, actually it says that way about gapps too.. why is that? also having the problems i just mentioned with the rom, does that mean the rom is not stable.. or it is something i did? should i even try going back to that rom? i mean i kind of liked it in the 2 hours i got to test it before everything crashed. i went throught the link you sent me and eventually figured out that there is a rom section on top of the page where i can actually see the roms which i didnt realize that before, seems like restoring function on TWRP works great but i wish there was a way to just know which rom would work best for my phone in terms of performance which is what im looking for.
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So i went with liquid smooth rom and after having some issues with titanium backup restoring apps i tried a few things and ended up having all system apps crashing on boot (dialer etc...) so i restored back to stock rom and everything works fine but now when i wanted to go back to liquid smooth TWRP says i cant and that the install files might be incomplete, actually it says that way about gapps too.. why is that? also having the problems i just mentioned with the rom, does that mean the rom is not stable.. or it is something i did? should i even try going back to that rom? i mean i kind of liked it in the 2 hours i got to test it before everything crashed. i went throught the link you sent me and eventually figured out that there is a rom section on top of the page where i can actually see the roms which i didnt realize that before, seems like restoring function on TWRP works great but i wish there was a way to just know which rom would work best for my phone in terms of performance which is what im looking for.
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ended up having all system apps crashing on boot
My guess is maybe you included system apps in your titanium backup? They are the ones listed in red; you don't want to include any system apps in your app restore/update.zip because they may be incompatible with the ROM you are flashing. So unless you read in the liquid smooth thread of other users having issues, I would doubt the ROM itself caused things to crash.
As far as the TWRP error about incomplete files...I'm not quite sure what that means. But you can take a screenshot while in TWRP(vol down + power) and post it up here to better explain the issue.
If you want to try liquid again try a fresh download of the ROM and fresh download of gapps(make sure you're downloading the correct gapps - LP & MM use different ones). If you run into problems with crashes again, try and flash just the ROM by itself to help determine if the errors are caused by the ROM or the gapps you're using.
I like liquid smooth...used to use it on my galaxy nexus back in the day. There are lots of good ones out there, itjust depends what you like. I usually use Tesla(aosp), but aokp and turbo are both really nice too. If you prefer CM based ROMs there are a ton of them too. Pick your poison.
So to clarify: it sounds like you did everything right - except don't restore system apps with titanium, make sure your gapps are compatible with your ROM, and have fun flashing
It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.
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im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.
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I definitely believe the earlier days were easier. This was back during the GingerBread days, then HoneyComb was skipped by my device at the time and ICS became the big bad boy on the playground. Less security measures, easier exploits, etc. A lot of stuff has remain the same. I think the hardest part with Xiaomi was waiting the 168 hours to unlock the phone.
Also I think I answered my original question. i had my backup set to go to the sd card and when I changed it to internal storage, it finally backed up all. I did a little research and from what I saw you should be backing up boot, data, and system. I saw system image and not system so I was confused. Looked up a couple more things and just like backing up a computer, it doesnt hurt to backup everything. So I backed up every single partition.
I also know I can backup using adb, just wanna make sure I have a backup on my phone in case I'm nowhere near my computer. 1 backup on phone, 1 backup on computer. Not really worried about bricking my little gingko since it's not the actual phone I used.
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It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates
haha cwm vs twrp tried both over the years, different phones etc, twrp imho had a better interface, and updates..but it had one glitch, sometimes on versions it would not save region and time, but thats all the by and by now, i assume..we have orangefox now, nad has that fixed the time error?
im still reluctant to root my note 8t, probably sell it, as it has not led notification sadly, probably get the note 8 pro.
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Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates
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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.
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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.
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Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.
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Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.
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Camera isnt a big deal. I've seen that all AOSP roms have that camera issues from reading the reads. Kinda sucky for people that want to use daily drivers.
Wanted to keep a thread for each one opinion on custom roms and why do you choose the rom you are using?
i have tried al custom roms and i always love to flash different ones,
What do you notice regarding stability? performance? battery ? bugs? etc in the rom you are using.
Love to hear all your opinions on this matter.
last time i flashed a custom ROM 10years ago. No need to flash anything since. All factory stock.
All i did for every phone is bloatware removal via ADB
I've only ever used the stock rom since I've had this phone. Using A11, A12 and now A13.
Only 1 annoyances during my time with this phone and stock ROM. ( Camera related blue light bleeding in a very bright artificially lit scenario )
Always stock rom with Root these days
Holy smokes. It's ok to not answer a question if it doesn't apply. Pardon my double negative.
I've been contemplating moving on from to stock to custom, when I came across this thread and thought, well this will be great; several viewpoints about several custom roms, but instead came across a few responses that didn't answer the question that was asked.
It's hard to sift though the roms' threads because, in most cases, you'll see "this is a great rom, everything works perfectly", almost immediately followed by "stuck in a boot loop", "looks like msm again", or "xyz is borked, please fix".
So, to reiterate og's question, what are the thoughts on the custom roms (not stock) for the 1+9pro (not a device from your past)?
Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.
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Nameless seems to be the most stable out of the custom roms, but lacks more in depth customization. CrDroid and Watchdog are better for customization, but more features usually means more bugs.
I've tried tons of the roms on here and will probably continue to do so as stock OOS just doesn't do it for me. Battery isn't ideal, and aesthetically it's hard to configure to what I like. It definitely works for a lot of people as it has many features and is mostly stable.
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You favor nameless I'm guessing?
It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.
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It depends on the day honestly. I have a disease, haha. As of right now that's what I'm using. But I'm sure I will flash something else here in the next week.
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I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)
Los20 Google free
Without gapps, store and ps apps
been on nameless for about 6 months, no complaints
Running my own fork of LineageOS 19 with features cherry-picked from other ROMs (nothing against them but I don't need the extra 30 fazillion features they offer when a handful of features I want does the job just fine). Once LineageOS 20 builds resume with fixes for some of the major issues in place (see the LOS 20 thread for OP9Pro), I'll be upgrading to the New Hotness (I've already made the necessary changes and tested them on my OP7Pro test phone, I'm just waiting for the all-clear for the OP9Pro).
spamerobaldomero said:
I'm currently on stag os 13, beta from october with a pair of important bugs... however probably I will flash another one tomorrow. I have to decide first which one xD
However I would ask you what are the steps now for flashing another android 13 rom, considering I'm on android 13 and I prefer not do a clean install (dont want to do any wipes as I have my phone tweaked and fully oriented for privacy)
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Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?
I kept mine as stock w/root since I got it. Just reflashed and I was blown away with how much nicer it feels. Even with the amount of work I'd done to kill bloatware, background processes, etc on the stock rom.
kodayoda713 said:
Oof, that's a tough one. You could *attempt* to do a dirty flash of the rom you're wanting to flash. Although, I wouldn't recommend. I've read that people do it with little side effects, but I've also seen people with lots of bugs.
What I typically do is use swiftbackup for SMS and apps, then just restore those on the new rom. But, depending on what tweaks you've applied, that might make things more difficult. As far as I know, there's not a way to restore everything, especially if the tweaks are specific to the rom. Maybe someone else might know a way?
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thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.
spamerobaldomero said:
thanks for your answer mate
I didn't touch anything specific to the rom nor kernel. Only much app config and some processes freezing.
So I will save apps+data with my old friend titanium backup pro, don't know another method to do :/
By the way, I will lose root if I do clean flash or can I save that any way?
I guess a clean flash instructions should be something like this?
Extract recovery package zip
Reboot to bootloader & connect your phone to PC
Double click on flash.bat
Reboot to recovery home page & tap Factory reset > Format data/factory reset
Back to recovery home page & tap > Apply update > Apply from ADB
Now sideload rom using command adb sideload <rom_filename>.zip
Now reboot to system.
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Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
Or
- follow root guide on this forum
Tried about every rom posted that I can find. A lot of nice roms, depends on what you want for customization. The one I prefer is Xtended. Been back and forth since A11 each one a little nicer. The latest -- v5 is best for me. I always go back to it. Currently on stock OOS13. Not all that bad with little tweaking. My disappointment is the lack of kernel development for the phone after A11. I guess the sources released by OnePlus a mess. Waiting for Ancient to be released. Could be nice.
kodayoda713 said:
Of course, glad I could contribute. Swiftbackup will do data for apps as well, but titanium backup should work too if that's what you prefer.
Yep, there's a couple ways to do it, and that will work. As far as root, you will definitely lose it, but you can either sideload magisk:
- download magisk APK and rename to .zip file
- after sideloading rom finishes, reboot to recovery
- sideload magisk.zip
Or
- follow root guide on this forum
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really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD
spamerobaldomero said:
really appreciate your help man, I had forgotten the steps to do root in only 3 months hahaha, my memory is awesome
I followed the method u mention and worked fine
For my words seems I am a newbie but only old hahahah, don't blame on me. I'm on this world of customization/tweaking phones since the old htc one and the first iPhone, so every day it costs me more as I increase my laziness year every passing year xD
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Haha, glad I could help! Memory is my biggest downfall as well, so you're not alone lol
Other backup options I like - tarb and Neo Backup. Swift I don't like because it only stores the latest backup, and the google play tied licensing is annoying when bouncing between various devices.
Used to love titanium backup but it never works successfully for me anymore
I miss the old days with twrp. If I wanted to try another rom, no problem, use twrp to do a full backup. Try the rom. If I don't like it then twrp puts it back on the system and everything just worked perfectly.
I've tried programs like swift backup and titanium backup but they never do a proper full backup. It always says couldn't restore this or that. Permissions are screwed up a lot of the time. Cache or apps malfunction. It isn't smooth and has caused me to stop using roms, kernels or taking big chances with programs that could break the system.
What can I do to complete a proper backup of the full os and then easy restore if I screw something up similar to the way twrp used too?
I asked the same question when I acquired my p6p - answer is there is no simple way to test roms on this device. Saving/restoring roms is a convoluted, human error prone process - imho testing roms isn't worth the risk/effort.
My next next device will have twrp support.
icanrule said:
I miss the old days with twrp. If I wanted to try another rom, no problem, use twrp to do a full backup. Try the rom. If I don't like it then twrp puts it back on the system and everything just worked perfectly.
I've tried programs like swift backup and titanium backup but they never do a proper full backup. It always says couldn't restore this or that. Permissions are screwed up a lot of the time. Cache or apps malfunction. It isn't smooth and has caused me to stop using roms, kernels or taking big chances with programs that could break the system.
What can I do to complete a proper backup of the full os and then easy restore if I screw something up similar to the way twrp used too?
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Omg, this!! I pretty much just asked the same thing, there has to be a better option other than Swift Backup. I currently use Swift to backup all apps, etc. Then flash new ROM to try out, restore with Swift, then have to manually reset everything else up. Its time consuming but does get the job done. I haven't had any stability issues thus far, but like I said this can't be our best option... Come on it's 2023 the custom ROM scene has come a far way to have this being the best we can do lol. But then again this is coming from someone that has little knowledge of how things work on the system level.
Lineage os has its own recovery, but I'm not sure you can back up with it. I use swift with my openssh server gets the job done, but I agree it's a pain having to login again etc.
I miss TWRP too. I even treated the title as "What do you do **with** TWRP?" and took it for granted that TWRP for the latest Pixel phones is ready.
bush911 said:
I miss TWRP too. I even treated the title as "What do you do **with** TWRP?" and took it for granted that TWRP for the latest Pixel phones is ready.
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what new phone brands do have twrp nowadays tho?
Stumbled upon this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...tom-rom-migration-tool.3862763/#post-78060823
Looks promising. I tested on 1 app like it suggests, and had no issues.