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A Better xda-developers forum experience...

Maybe there could be a basic reading test for new users.
if they fail to pass the test...
they cannot post.
seems like that would clean up this site rather nicely.

Here's the one required to be a moderator:
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In all seriousness, XDA is open to anyone from any country, you don't even have to know English, you can use a translator (such as google or babelfish).
Dave

mnjm9b said:
Maybe there could be a basic reading test for new users.
if they fail to pass the test...
they cannot post.
seems like that would clean up this site rather nicely.
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That would be a rather tall order, wouldn't it? Or a very restrictive undertaking. Like in view of the fact that xda is read ALL over the world, in how many languages would the reading test be written?

Also, its not fair to judge someone on how well they talk/communicate/type etc. As Dave correctly stated, XDA is open to all.
Instead of screening all users, maybe existing users should try and be more considerate to those which find it hard to communicate or speak in english

I never said anything about language skills.
I understand there are communication barriers. even with different dialects of the same language.
What my issue is, when noobies completely CLOG many of the forums
with repetitive and basic questions that would be easily resolved if they would just read.
most of the time the answers are even in the OP that they are posting in.
it's like they don't even try.
while I am certain to have asked noobie questions myself, I think that the lack of effort for a person to at least try and answer there own questions is sure laziness.
and for that I have no patience to offer help to those people.
if a person is having a hard time understanding something...
well that is perfectly acceptable.
there ARE forum rules but how is that enforced???
what is the point of having those rules if they go unenforced?

mnjm9b said:
there ARE forum rules but how is that enforced???
what is the point of having those rules if they go unenforced?
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There must be well over a hundred posts an hour on this forum. No-one has the time to read all of them. If we explicitly enforced the forum rules on everyone who broke them most of the users on here would be banned (even us mods ). We each monitor the device forums we are most fluent (and sometimes not so much) in and close / move and occasionally delete posts / threads that do not belong. There will always be people who don't want to read and just want a quick solution and there are those that don't and actually spend the time helping themselves and others. The best we can do is to encourage them into posting in the correct threads, or searching for their answers first.
When there are posts that are clearly duplicate / redundant or in the wrong forum, they can be reported to the mods with a helpful message (why is it redundant, where does it need moving to, links to threads, etc?) and we will look into them.
Thanks,
Dave

How about just banning curse words? Ban F***, S***, B****, A******, F**, F******, A**, DumbA**, W****, etc. I'm sure users would adapt to say mother clucker instead of mother f*****, but it would be a welcome improvement in my eyes.

New HD2 forum section (why?)

Some weeks ago I suggested the separation of themes and apps in two different forum sections for the HD2 but nothing changed...
Now a new "HD2 Q&A" section opens... what is the difference between this new section and the "HD2 General" section?! People would just be confused...
I really think that the separation between themes and apps is more important than general conversation and Q&A...

DeadVirus said:
Some weeks ago I suggested the separation of themes and apps in two different forum sections for the HD2 but nothing changed...
Now a new "HD2 Q&A" section opens... what is the difference between this new section and the "HD2 General" section?! People would just be confused...
I really think that the separation between themes and apps is more important than general conversation and Q&A...
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The Q&A forums have helped tidy up various forums (mainly android based) where a lot of new users are driven to XDA by the new smart phone devices aimed at general consumers instead of tech users - as was the case in the the good ol' days . People are less and less inclined to search and just post for answers. Despite our best efforts they continue to post so we found it's better to give them someone to ask little questions that don't clutter up the other device sub forums. General is for more general problems, maybe HW, maybe opinions on the phone, complaints with carriers, etc.
I can't recall the discussion on seperate Themes and Apps forums in the moderator area, so I can't comment.

IMHO as the OP said, the app and themes are better in a sub forum. I too think that the Q&A section is confusing (may be it should be a sub forum in general forum?)
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EDIT: I guess you would also need a zombie HD2 forum in the near future for Androidised HD2s

DaveShaw said:
The Q&A forums have helped tidy up various forums (mainly android based) where a lot of new users are driven to XDA by the new smart phone devices aimed at general consumers instead of tech users - as was the case in the the good ol' days . People are less and less inclined to search and just post for answers. Despite our best efforts they continue to post so we found it's better to give them someone to ask little questions that don't clutter up the other device sub forums. General is for more general problems, maybe HW, maybe opinions on the phone, complaints with carriers, etc.
I can't recall the discussion on seperate Themes and Apps forums in the moderator area, so I can't comment.
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Yeah, I can see that the Q&A forums can be useful, but they can be a little confusing at first... but that's just a matter of getting used to it, so now that I start to see it with another eyes I thank you guys for that
Regarding the separate Themes and Apps forum I apologise but I think that I created that discussion somewhere inside the HD2 forums so probably it was missed...
But it is still an ideia An example is that there are a lot of people that don't really care for themes, so it is quite hard to check for new apps for the HD2, and vice-versa, because there's a lot of "movement" in that forum...
chvvkumar said:
IMHO as the OP said, the app and themes are better in a sub forum. I too think that the Q&A section is confusing (may be it should be a sub forum in general forum?)
Something like this:
EDIT: I guess you would also need a zombie HD2 forum in the near future for Androidised HD2s
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I like the way you organized it in the image. Maybe some moderators can take a look and consider this? Or other forum organization that you consider better...

Postcount limit in developmental fora

We have been getting lots of questions about the postcount limit in developmental area's. Most of these questions were along these lines:
What do I have to do to be able to ask a question in the developmental fora?
How many posts do I have to have before I can post in the developmental fora?
Does this mean you want users to start spamming?
Why are you judging users based on their postcount (I have been a long time user on other fora, e.g. I know the ropes)?
There are a few common misunderstandings about the developmental fora I want to address before I dive further into the subject.
Common misunderstandings: (not true)
Developmental fora are for asking questions
It's been said so many times before and I'll say it again, developmental fora are there to release your own creations. Applications, kernels and kitchens all belong there. Guides and tutorials are usually allowed but by definition do not belong there. Everything else does NOT belong there (questions (NOT about development either), news, links to someone else's development). Basically, if you did not create "it", then doesn't belong in development.
How many posts?
10.
You are encouraging members to spam!
No we are not. This is meant for users to take some time to get acquainted with the idiosyncrasies, the rules and the ideology of the site. Spamming is not allowed as per rule 7: Do not spam. Doing so will get you infracted and your posts will be deleted, leaving you worse off than before.
Why are you judging members by their post count?
For lack of a better alternative. I challenge anyone to come up with a better alternative, and share it with us. Over the years we have seen the impact the cluttering up of developmental fora had on the amount of energy needed to keep threads in shape or visible. This wasn't productive at all. We get that people might have experience from other fora and think this is a little over the top for them, but there are rarely any developers amongst the people that want to create new threads. There are a few people with a genuine need to post a thread in the developmental fora (developers), these people can contact a moderator to help them get sorted.
12's tutorial on how to get your postcount above 10:
Keep in mind that only people we the genuine intent to post one of their developmental projects or with a (well explained) bug report NEED a postcount above 10. Nonetheless I'll give you some guidelines on how to achieve this goal in a community accepted way:
Read the
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stickies in About xda-developers.com
Read this thread
Read the
stickies in Questions and Answers, ask a question there about the site or anything general should anything be unclear to you
Try to answer 2 or 3 questions there
Read the
stickies in your forum for your favorite device
If you have any news on the device post it in general
If you have any questions about a hack, app, ROM or theme pop into that thread and ask a question or leave a message
Check out your device specific Questions and Answers (if it has one, otherwise check out General). With everything you have learned so far you should well be able to help a few more people there.
Tip! When working with people on a forum try to be understanding. Messages aren't always as clear to others as they might be to you (think of language and knowledge barriers). You might have to explain it once more to get the point across.

Or in case you feel it's TL;DR

[MINI GUIDE] XDA Features

I am creating this thread to remind new and experienced users of all the features available on the site. Although there are other longer guides telling users how to use the site, I think it is valid that I give tips based on my experience on the site. This is a Mini guide which means that I will only highlight key information about XDA which may or may not have been explored in different threads.
Check Out an Awesome Guide On the Search Function By: T-Macgnolia​
As I say in all my guides, suggestions are like gold to me and I just want to make my service better. All reasonable comments are welcome. Please PM me if you have any urgent problems. I am sorry if my service is uninvited. It is also an extension to an earlier guide I posted HERE.
1) The Newsworthy Thread Feature
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The newsworthy thread feature, located in the top right of the original post, is designed to give users the opportunity to vote for a thread good enough to be put into the XDA Portal. This feature remains un-noticed for many users. Hopefully, this thread will introduce it to them.
2) The BB Code
XDA has its own unique code that it uses to order text and images. While many new users may find this feature to be a bit old fashioned, Raw and confusing, it is actually critical to the nature of XDA. It gives you the opportunity to manipulate individual items and puts power in the hand of the user. (It also makes you seem a bit more tech-y). Most BB Code will work like this:
[SOMEBBCODEHERE]Crappy stuff[/SOMEBBCODEHERE].
Notice that I use square brackets, there is no space in between the crappy stuff and th brackets and that there is a forward slash on the ending BB code line.
For a full list of the BB code go HERE
3) Editing
Any post that you make can be edited. This is done by simply clicking the EDIT button in the bottom right of that post. But this will just open a quick edit box with limited options. To get all the other options just click here:
Initially, some special new users were a bit stumbled by this idea, assuming that it was a button used to get the advanced version of XDA.
4) The Rules
TheCellsOfMyBrain said:
Rules are what society is made of, without them people would not see themselves as in a society. Rules insure that people who think they are above or exempt from society are contained, such as if you murder someone you are arrested, for the good of society.
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Although this is more of a tip, rules are a feature of XDA. Read and respect them. HERE is a Link to them.
5) The Report Button
The report button can be found on the top right of any post. When a user is found flaming (virtual yelling), posting in the wrong place or just breaking any immediate rules, hit that button.
I have spent quite some time typing this review, please do not troll. All suggestions on the other hand are more than welcome. Please hit 'thanks' if you appreciate my massive effort. Sorry if this is not something you wanted. Even though the guide is long, I call it mini because it does not cover everything.
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hopefully that will teach people some stuff

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Haha look at those images.

Useful information, thank you.
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Limited Access For New Members

Hey there
so im new to the xda fourms, but i am NOT new to the programing and developing world, i made my account on xda for only one reason and that was to comment and give a bug report to 'Grarak' on his newest release of the android 4.4 kitkat rom. and because i am not a 'developer' by your standards i cannot do so.
i understand that new members shouldnt have the same abilities as people who have been part of the community for a long time but limiting new users access to discussing with developers and giving feedback on there work dosnt make sense to me.
so my question is, How do i gain access to talk on the developers forums

poells said:
so my question is, How do i gain access to talk on the developers forums
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Simple straight forward answer ? Now your post count is 4 when you made 10 ( incidentally not a spam post) and after a few hours your 11th post on XDA can be done on the development forum. that's the answer to your question.
The MOD's will have NO choice but to Close this thread soon, as this has been addressed over and over again
I recently explained it here and you need to read this guide to understand it better.
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That was helpful links. Thank you. Now lets feach that 10 post goal haha thanks again

You're not a special snowflake and don't deserve special treatment just because you feel you are better than other new users because of your experience. You need to follow the 10 post rule like everyone else. You've already got 7 so you are almost there anyway.

BretonGirl said:
You're not a special snowflake and don't deserve special treatment just because you feel you are better than other new users because of your experience. You need to follow the 10 post rule like everyone else. You've already got 7 so you are almost there anyway.
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