Got this method to work to get the update on Rogers Lumia 900.
I have Windows 8/Zune and the Lumia 900.
1- Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune software.. note put the phone in airplane mode
2- Click on Settings/Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is
available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.
3- Click the check for update button again, and this time immediately disconnect
your computer from the internet. Do this by pulling the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. ( I have just disabled the Ethernet adapter) But you should this as soon as the update starts, as your procedure will take some time!!!
4- You should receive a notification that an update is available.
5- Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.
Just to add to it... it updates to 7.10.8779.8 first. Then redo the steps above to get to 7.10.8783.12 .. and then again to 7.10.8858.136 .. which I believe is 7.8
note.. I got the above information from
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-8-update-now-on-zune-regardless-of-carrier-and-model/
This also seems to work on my HTC Radar, but I haven't finished patching it yet. I will post the instructions on the HTC Radar forum.
What firmware did you end up with?
No matter how many times i try to do this method it just isnt working for me, which leads me to believe the update has not yet been pushed to my area.
Worked for me on ATT, it's all about the timing (took three tries to get it to work). I would recommend using the disable adapter method, as it's much easier to disable quickly.
Rennoc said:
Worked for me on ATT, it's all about the timing (took three tries to get it to work). I would recommend using the disable adapter method, as it's much easier to disable quickly.
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disable adapter?
Open your adapter settings in the OS, after you click the update button in Zune right click on the adapter and click "Disable"
The last fast ring update I know I had on my HTC M8 (registry hacked to think it's a Lumia 950) was Redstone 10.0.14915.1000, which has been working just fine for a couple weeks now. Today a new update was pushed to the phone, which must have been the latest fast ring (Redstone 10.0.14926.1000). However, after I rebooted the phone to install the update after it finished installing it rebooted itself again (as expected) but now just continuously reboots. I have to perform the factory hard reset using the volume keys to get the phone to shut down totally. But when I start it again it just goes into the continuous reboot scenario again.
Anyone know if there's a way to recover from this? I really don't want to have to use the Windows Device Recovery Tool to go back to Win8.1 and start all over again if I can help it.
Too impatient. I went ahead and used the recovery tool to go back to Win8.1 Update 2. Oh, joy!
You're not alone brother. Hit mine this morning, luckly I woke up without my alarm, but 30 minutes late. Good thing I'm fast in the morning.. Just enough time to restore and head to work. Gonna pop back to the slow ring asap..
I couldn't get it to boot into Windows 10 once it got stuck. I had to use the recovery tool to go back to Windows 8.1 but didn't realize they have since pulled the Windows Insider support for the HTC so now I can't even get the phone to upgrade to the Win10 Insider Preview build. My previous method was to side-load Interop Tools for Win10 after upgrading to Win10 via the Insider Preview app and then I hacked the registry to trick the phone into thinking it's a Lumia 950. Since I can't get back to Win10 I don't know how to edit the registry in Win8.1.
Anyone able to point me to the correct tools for editing the registry in Windows 8.1?
Same thing here .. please if anyone knows a way to backup the data when phone is in that situation share it please .. I can't delete the data on my phone it's too important!! ..
Found Win8-to-Win10 instructions for Lumia but need it for HTC
Well, I found the following post explaining how to update a Lumia back to Win10 after downgrade to Win8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...le/installing-windows-10-mobile-tech-t3431454
However, I don't think that will work for an HTC. Basically, I think I just need a way to get to the registry on an HTC w/ Win8 installed and then I should be able to update to Win10.
Just not having any luck finding anything on the forum for hacking the registry on an HTC w/ Win8...
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Well, I found the following post explaining how to update a Lumia back to Win10 after downgrade to Win8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...le/installing-windows-10-mobile-tech-t3431454
However, I don't think that will work for an HTC. Basically, I think I just need a way to get to the registry on an HTC w/ Win8 installed and then I should be able to update to Win10.
Just not having any luck finding anything on the forum for hacking the registry on an HTC w/ Win8...
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Does the HTC have an SD card? If so, you can try the SD card method rather than the wpinternals one.
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Does the HTC have an SD card? If so, you can try the SD card method rather than the wpinternals one.
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Yes it does. I got the following response from another user on a thread I posted under the HTC One M8 for Windows forum. I haven't tried it yet but it looks like a summary of the steps necessary to upgrade the HTC One M8 from Win8 to Win10. Here's the link for anyone else in the same boat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68810793&postcount=24
Since i upgraded to redstone whenever i'm on a call the other party doesn't hear me well (says my volume is too low) but switching to speaker make my voice clear so the hardware is good but there's something wrong with the software
Anyone has a clue to fix it??
which device? have you used win 10 mobile prior without issues or did you go from 8.1 to redstone directly? in the last case its a hardware problem cause 10 uses the mics different than 8
but tbh i sometimes have the same issues since redstone, not always, but sometimes (with my unsupported 920, worked fine with th2, but rs1 sometimes ****s it up. not a real problem for me cause i use my headset most of the time)
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which device? have you used win 10 mobile prior without issues or did you go from 8.1 to redstone directly? in the last case its a hardware problem cause 10 uses the mics different than 8
but tbh i sometimes have the same issues since redstone, not always, but sometimes (with my unsupported 920, worked fine with th2, but rs1 sometimes ****s it up. not a real problem for me cause i use my headset most of the time)
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it's a lumia 920 yeah it worked perfectly with 8.1 and 10 th1 and th2 but the last time i had to reset my phone i went from 8.1 to redstone directly and now the issue is annoting me
there is no way to go from 8.1 to rs1 without using th2 as hop you will always get 10586.107 before you get the latest redstone build when coming from 8.1
you had it before on any redstone build? or is it only appearing since you recovered your phone the last time to 8.1 and updated again?
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there is no way to go from 8.1 to rs1 without using th2 as hop you will always get 10586.107 before you get the latest redstone build when coming from 8.1
you had it before on any redstone build? or is it only appearing since you recovered your phone the last time to 8.1 and updated again?
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i change the phone id to lumia 830 and used the insider program and the phone went directely to redstone and since that the problem exist
sorry i dont believe that, last time i had to recover my device (about 2 months ago) i did the same (cause upgrade assistant does not work) and as usual it used the th .107 as hop to rs1
and i use 830 values too for my 920
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sorry i dont believe that, last time i had to recover my device (about 2 months ago) i did the same (cause upgrade assistant does not work) and as usual it used the th .107 as hop to rs1
and i use 830 values too for my 920
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i did that a long time ago and my intention was to get back on th2 but nothing worked other than the fast ring which lead to redstone directely a lot of issues that i'm trying to solve.
if you want th2 now (which i dont recommend cause rs1 runs much better on the 920) -> recover to 8.1. update to latest 8.1 version. jump into the release preview ring, install that update. will bring you to the mentioned 10586.107. after doing that update immediately leave the insider program, revert the spoofed id and search for updates. will bring you to the latest th2 version from novembers patchday
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if you want th2 now (which i dont recommend cause rs1 runs much better on the 920) -> recover to 8.1. update to latest 8.1 version. jump into the release preview ring, install that update. will bring you to the mentioned 10586.107. after doing that update immediately leave the insider program, revert the spoofed id and search for updates. will bring you to the latest th2 version from novembers patchday
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i hard bricked my phone and i'm in the process to recover it
tell me the steps you did to change the phone id so i make sure i get th2 before upgrading to redstone
use wpinternals to flash the engineering bootloader for the device, thats the only way to get to 10 again after they removed the old devices from the insider programm.
so do the recovery, update it , use wpinternals to flash the engineering bootloader, start the device in massstoragemode, load the structure of the SYSTEM regfiles into regedit on your pc. spoof the device id, reboot the phone, get into the insider program and choose the release preview ring. it will bring you to .107 (if you wanna stay on th2 do what i have written before), and after that it brings you to the latest rs1. then do a hardreset just to be sure and config your device as usual. to get glance back working on it check the thread here about it
Note: The update packages linked down below are for ARM devices (basically for the Windows RT OS)
After contacting Microsoft, and doing research for at least a few weeks, I found a solution to this major problem.
Alright, so I got a permanent solution for the Windows Update searching disaster!
Step 1: Restore your Surface RT with the recovery image from the microsoft website. (optional)
Step 2: Set up your surface and head to Windows update.
Step 3: Search for updates, after 30m-1h you will see a firmware update, press install without modifying the update list.
Step 4: After the installation got succeeded, and your surface rt restarted go ahead and search again for updates.
Step 5: Again you will see a package of updates, this update includes the Windows RT 8.1 Update 1 update (kb2919355).
Step 6: When you finished installing the updates and your surface rebooted again, go to "installed updates" and check if kb2919355 is installed.
Step 7: If not, try to install the updates again. If yes, start searching for updates again.
Step 7B (Read before doing): IF kb2919355 is not installed and you are stuck on the search for updates part please download THIS file, turn off your WiFi, install the file by opening it, restart when finished and turn on WiFi
Step 8: Once Windows Update is searching for at least 4 hours we came at the point where most of us are stuck.
THE SOLUTION
Step 9: Download kb3173424 from HERE.
Step 10: Download kb3172614 from HERE.
Step 11: Turn off your Wifi, and reboot the surface.
Step 12: Install kb3173424 by opening it.
Step 13: Reboot the surface.
Step 14: Install kb3172614 by opening it.
Step 15: Reboot the surface.
Step 16: Turn on your Wifi, start searching for updates and after 10+/- minutes you will see 180+ updates coming your way .
I hope this helps a lot of people, since it was a major problem on the Surface RT.
Don't forget to hit that donation ehh... Thanks button!
Great work and thanks for the help ill try this on my surface 2 when I have more free time. I basically did that but instead got to the point where I was able to manually install the update 3 (which was about 60 updates in) and just stopped there and blocked updates so I could use the store without errors and use the development tool to run ported desktop apps.
mattschwantes said:
If this really works, you are heroic. How did you figure this out?
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I restored an image on my surface RT more then 80 times in total. Contacted Microsoft which couldn't do anything and just told me to live with it. And finally came at the conclusion that 8.1 update 1 did something with the Windows update module (still doing research what exactly went wrong with that update).
However I tested this 2 times on my own tablet I can guarantee you this will work!
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My friend, you are very dedicated. Much more than MS it appears. I tested your method on a Surface 2 last night. It works great. Excellent work.
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Glad I could help!
Hmm. I can't say if it is working or not yet. After finally fixing the errors I was getting after a reset (80240440) now I am updating, and after 2 large installs I still have no kb2919355. In fact I don't even have it's pre-requisite of kb2919442. I would really hate to be the guy that discovered this not working for every RT out there. :crying: I will just keep installing large groups until I either get them or it gets stuck again, and I will be absolutely sure to update this for the benefit of others.
Update: It worked, but I had to download and restart 5 separate sets of updates. My theory is that it is tied to the wi-fi connection. I had several errors at first indicating that I wasn't able to connect to the update servers. Internet Explorer worked fine so I went chasing a red herring looking at network settings, firewall etch. Then I brought the Surface from my living room into my office, where the router is, and suddenly it is working perfectly. So my point is, remember that this thing is finicky, and don't take any chances. The community thanks you Stjinchan, awesome job.
CptDraco said:
Update: It worked, but I had to download and restart 5 separate sets of updates. My theory is that it is tied to the wi-fi connection. I had several errors at first indicating that I wasn't able to connect to the update servers. Internet Explorer worked fine so I went chasing a red herring looking at network settings, firewall etch. Then I brought the Surface from my living room into my office, where the router is, and suddenly it is working perfectly. So my point is, remember that this thing is finicky, and don't take any chances. The community thanks you Stjinchan, awesome job.
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Glad it worked! I love helping people!
Holy cow it works. Thank you so much I've been trying to resolve this issue for weeks. I didn't even have to reformat it.
Stjinchan said:
Alright, so I got a permanent solution for the Windows Update searching disaster!
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This is awesome, can't wait to test it. But what about the Update 3 for Windows RT 8.1 (KB3097667) ?
I didn't read anything about it in your guide.
Niel86 said:
This is awesome, can't wait to test it. But what about the Update 3 for Windows RT 8.1 (KB3097667) ?
I didn't read anything about it in your guide.
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After you installed the 2 mentioned updates manually windows update should be fixed and you are able to receive all the updates including update 3 through windows update again.
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After you installed the 2 mentioned updates manually windows update should be fixed and you are able to receive all the updates including update 3 through windows update again.
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Thanks mate, I'll try it ASAP on my Surface RT
I can't manually install the first of the two updates, it say it's not possible to install it. Looks like I miss the 2919355 after the two big bacth of updates.
Any idea?
I'm very surprised and somehow happy to let you guys know that my Surface RT updated itself to the latest Update 3 after few days of downloading updates.
I was ready to follow this new guide, downloaded the manual updates but I've never used it.
I started everything by restoring Windows, keeping all my data and just refreshing WinRT, after that I started the typical updates cycles but something was different. I noticed I was missing the Kb2919355 (update 1), some of the updates were titled "KB **WhateverNumberItIs** without KB2919355", so I was a bit concerned but instead of the KB2919355 my Surface keeped find new updates in a very small time. After another batch of 137 updates, which took almost 3 hours to install, few other not important ones, here I am with my Windows 8.1 RT Update 3.
I really did nothing different from the previous 7/8 times.
Thank you, it works!
Now my Nokia 2520 tablet is back to life.
Not working for my Surface 2
I already have the first update listed to install, but when I try to install the second one it just says searching for updates on this computer...
Is there anything else I can try like resetting it? I just got it today.
amazing
Thank you for detailed instructions.
Advice for others, the key update we're looking for is the only one that ends with "55", so it's easier to search for it, just check the KB numbers in update history until you see it.
Also, another advice, DO NOT lightly install any optional updates. At the end of the process you will see a few optional updates. Please google each and every KB number, some of them caused big problems in the past! I personally installed 3 updates out of recommended list, including the new start menu and some other fixes that no one complained about.
In my case it took a couple days of waiting until my device got and installed the kb2919355 update, and I could take the matter into my own hands.
Now I just installed the two updates, and started searching for updates online.
Let's see where does it take me.
It's a completely new surface RT I purchased for laughable money to see if I could use it as a portable typewriter
For others out there who are still going through the process, the timeline was as follows:
- Friday 4pm I reset the device to official image, and started searching for updates (not connected to my microsoft ID, just local account)
- Friday 5pm I got a message about firmware update, downloaded and installed
- Friday 6pm I set it to search for updates, and left it at work.
- Saturday night I came to check it out, and it told me it wants to install updates. I installed some updates, there was no kb2919355 update, so I set it to search again
- Monday morning I cam full of hopes, the device told me it wants to install some updates, but kb2919355 wasn't among them. I installed whatever was ready, and set it to search again.
- It was still searching at 1pm. I got tired of waiting, and went to power menu. It suggested "Update and restart", so I chose it. It installed 50 updates, kb2919355 was amoung them, but failed.
- I fiddled around for 5 minutes, and it said that 3 updates were available (without searching), kb2919355 among them. Installed them, restarted.
- Then as per instruction, installed 2 updates manually (wifi off) and rebooted.
- searched for updates, took 10 minutes and voila! 161 important updates, and 8 optional.
- took an hour to download all 161 important updates, then about 2 hours to install.
- patience is a virtue! After installation of all 160 updates above, surface offered to do a restart. After clicking the Restart button, it spent >30 minutes with Restarting and a spinning circle. I was pondering about hard-resetting it, but then it started showing progress of update installation, so wait and wait until it does.
- Took about an hour to finalize updates installation. Like I mentioned at the beginning, I installed 3 optional updates (carefully chose them out of the list of 6)
- only then I connected my microsoft account, installed and updated all Metro UI apps (do not start using them before you update them, trust me on this one).
Stjinchan said:
Note: The update packages linked down below are for ARM devices (basically for the Windows RT OS)
After contacting Microsoft, and doing research for at least a few weeks, I found a solution to this major problem.
Alright, so I got a permanent solution for the Windows Update searching disaster!
Step 1: Restore your Surface RT with the recovery image from the microsoft website. (optional)
Step 2: Set up your surface and head to Windows update.
Step 3: Search for updates, after 30m-1h you will see a firmware update, press install without modifying the update list.
Step 4: After the installation got succeeded, and your surface rt restarted go ahead and search again for updates.
Step 5: Again you will see a package of updates, this update includes the Windows RT 8.1 Update 1 update (kb2919355).
Step 6: When you finished installing the updates and your surface rebooted again, go to "installed updates" and check if kb2919355 is installed.
Step 7: If no, try to install the updates again. If yes, start searching for updates again.
Step 8: Once Windows Update is searching for at least 4 hours we came at the point where most of us are stuck.
THE SOLUTION
Step 9: Download kb3173424 from HERE.
Step 10: Download kb3172614 from HERE.
Step 11: Turn off your Wifi, and reboot the surface.
Step 12: Install kb3173424 by opening it.
Step 13: Reboot the surface.
Step 14: Install kb3172614 by opening it.
Step 15: Reboot the surface.
Step 16: Turn on your Wifi, start searching for updates and after 10+/- minutes you will see 180+ updates coming your way .
I hope this helps a lot of people, since it was a major problem on the Surface RT.
Don't forget to hit that donation ehh... like button!
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On step 7 = if KB2919355 still hasn't installed, do you continue checking for updates or remove whats been updated and start again, ive been trying this for 3 days now
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On step 7 = if KB2919355 still hasn't installed, do you continue checking for updates or remove whats been updated and start again, ive been trying this for 3 days now
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Continue checking for updates till you are stuck in the endless search. You should got the *355 update before that loop.
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Continue checking for updates till you are stuck in the endless search. You should got the *355 update before that loop.
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The surface has 196 updates installed, it hasn't found anymore for over 12 hours - it still hasn't found KB2919355, i have reset the machine approx 3 times now and i always get this far only. Is KB2919355 available to install manually ?
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The surface has 196 updates installed, it hasn't found anymore for over 12 hours - it still hasn't found KB2919355, i have reset the machine approx 3 times now and i always get this far only. Is KB2919355 available to install manually ?
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Hmm, could you try to install this manually and report back to me if it worked? If so I will add it to the guide.
Stjinchan said:
Hmm, could you try to install this manually and report back to me if it worked? If so I will add it to the guide.
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Stjinchan................... YOU ARE A LEGEND !..................... it worked, after 5 days of resets and refreshes you have resolved my issues, KB2919355 would never install via windows update itself. I am currently installing 210 updates at present........ I turned off WiFi and installed KB2919355 manually it took approx 40 mins to verify and install, from then i followed from step 9 of your guide and now things are looking good, so far i have 210 updates to install and after approx 3 hours installing as we speak we are at update 184 ...................... so we are almost there. Thank you for providing the standalone KB2919355 file ! That was the problem for me. I am delighted that forums such as XDA help people to resolve issues such as this its just a pity Microsoft themselves cant help more - credit to you STJINCHAN !