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It seems clear now that once again the Exynos version is inferior this year and as I understand it the known disadvantages are as follows:
Inferior real world performance (actually is capable of better but suffers with thermals)
Power management
Different (worse) camera module in the Exynos vs. the SD
I'm guessing that most positive comments are from snapdragon users so for those with an Exynos, how are you feeling? and better still does anybody out there have both versions?
I have the S20+ and have been a little disappointed, the camera has been pretty average (only just got April update so not tested that yet) and I have noticed that the phone gets quite warm quite quickly, being in lockdown the battery has not jumped out yet as I am never more than one room away from a charger.
Thoughts??
S20 exynos user here and I'm fine with it...
I don't game which helps of course, but get decent battery life (idle drain 0.5-0.7%/hr and when using the phone a lot I get around 6 hrs SOT, actually 6:13 atm and 15% left). Pictures are fine as well, coming from an S10+ they are sharper overall but exposure can be a bit tricky every now and then. I hope and think things will improve in future updates.
Thing is I really prefer the smaller sized phones, I mean the OP8 and P40's also look great but they are simply too big for me. The S10+ was already on the edge, can work with it but less then optimally comfortable.
Would I have rather had the SD version? Yeah
Is the exynos a reason for me to return? No
I have paid about 630 euros for it though, had I paid full price I might have judged differently and indeed returned it.
I did optimize things (96hz refresh rate, disabled some apps I don't need/use, etc) so that might have helped with battery life. No custom roms or anything though so no warranty issues.
Having S20 Exynos.
Very disappointed with S20 after a 3 weeks of use.
Very bad battery performance. looks like I have started to control my ph usage looking at the battery no's declining. hahhahaha very very funny.
phone heats up with min usage( not sure is it cause of summer or exynos. hahaha).But this is true in my case even in indoor usage.
Just few min of use can see temp raise to 37+. If use camera for more than 5 min or so. it goes above 40 & refresh rate drops to 60.
I really don’t understand what Samsung trying to do here. impose on users, who have paid hefty money for their products.
It’s been more than a month. yet we still have to go thru these. Even after their multiple updates
camera not really to Samsung mark to be (compare to previous models.no major improvements).
Only thing which makes me to use over note 10+ is 120hz. Rest not worth the price.
I don’t say the phone is bad, but not worth the upgrade for the price.
At the core I guess Samsung is aware they have screw up the S20 series using exynos.
Hope with Note 20 they will make it up to retain their fans with SD processor. If this is not going happen, then for sure ill also be one of them to say goodbye.
*very BAD*
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*very BAD*
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ideal phone will be pixel 4XL with 5000mAh battery , oh maybe it can be a little biger as s20 ultra - ideal phone to me .
buy yourself the one 8pro and you will be better off - wish id done that but rushed into the samsung phones not knowingly how **** they are this year
Thanks all.
It is strange but OnePlus's stance on the Always on Display has always really irritated me, not just that they have still not added one but mostly how they have apparently been 'working on it' like forever. It is a feature I like, not a reason to buy or not buy a phone but when all others offer it it does tip the balance. The P40 is amazing and the whole google thing is really frustrating.
I also agree that the Pixel 4 XL is REALLY close to being the best overall droid out there, slightly nicer design, brighter screen and a higher storage option and it would be IMO. On the flip side though the S20 is also REALLY close too.
Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.
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Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.
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I've used Battery Widget Reborn since my HTC Desire days, it has a widget that can be configured for battery temp.
Just put it on the screen next to Accubattery now ...
Reading alot about exynos version battery life. I have s20+ exynos 4G model. I had note 9 and I felt it had good battery life. Then I got s10+ and the battery anxiety was completely gone. And from s10+ to s20+, I feel battery life is almost the same as my s10+, on 120 hz. I dont disable anything. Using completely stock. No issues what so ever. I get 5 to 6 hrs of battery life if I use the full cycle and standby 16 to 18 hours, with 20% or so remaining.
I tend to stick to 40 to 85% cycle. Developed this habit when I had s10+ since the battery anxiety was gone. I charge twice a day, once in the morning to 85% and once in late afternoon or evening (when it hits around 40%). Not more than 25 to 30 mins each (25W charger works well). So, an hour of charging works for me easily. I think since I have the 4G model I am not getting problems most ppl are.
Also, I don't play games except for one, 2048. Two gmail, two facebook and messenger, two whatsapp, Twitter, snapchat, Instagram. All the office apps.
Camera is better than my s10+. The pictures are sharp and I am very happy with it.
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My battery drains too fast.. and I disable the features and not play games..
I have this only 2 years..
If I have 15%.. it was going down to 0% so fast..
maybe it was caused because of the new updates?
Try and use it until it turns off and then fully charge it while it's still off do that a few times and see if it gets any better. I spotted something online which suggested this and it helped mine a little
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Try and use it until it turns off and then fully charge it while it's still off do that a few times and see if it gets any better. I spotted something online which suggested this and it helped mine a little
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I'm having the same problem. I tried this but the battery life is still not great, like sometimes I charge my S9 twice a day.
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I'm having the same problem. I tried this but the battery life is still not great, like sometimes I charge my S9 twice a day.
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Yeah to be honest mines from April 2018 and I still have to charge it twice a day sometimes but if it goes off at 15% the full charge thing seemed to help. The accu battery app, said my battery around 80% guess there still alot of stuff running in the background not sure what phones expected battery life is but their only covered by 1 year warranty I believe which probably says alot and the s9 exynos is known to be worse than snapdragon chop for battery
These new Samsung devices have the worst battery life around. Every single update it gets worse. This is Samsung forcing you to pay for a new device which will be exactly the same.
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These new Samsung devices have the worst battery life around. Every single update it gets worse. This is Samsung forcing you to pay for a new device which will be exactly the same.
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I don't think so, my friend's note 8 last a lot longer than my S9. Maybe it's an issue with the S9 itself because the S8 had longer battery life since the beginning.
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These new Samsung devices have the worst battery life around. Every single update it gets worse. This is Samsung forcing you to pay for a new device which will be exactly the same.
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Could be worse could have an iPhone [emoji6][emoji23]
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I don't think so, my friend's note 8 last a lot longer than my S9. Maybe it's an issue with the S9 itself because the S8 had longer battery life since the beginning.
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So 2years and still no fix? Come on mate anybody can see what's going on here its no issue with s9. Battery life was amazing out the box, ever since its been terrible.
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I don't think so, my friend's note 8 last a lot longer than my S9. Maybe it's an issue with the S9 itself because the S8 had longer battery life since the beginning.
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Could be worse could have an iPhone [emoji6][emoji23]
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Haha i will be going iphone next time around, don't think i will ever purchase a samsung again after this experience. At least we can expect plenty of updates with iphone
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So 2years and still no fix? Come on mate anybody can see what's going on here its no issue with s9. Battery life was amazing out the box, ever since its been terrible.
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Haha i will be going iphone next time around, don't think i will ever purchase a samsung again after this experience. At least we can expect plenty of updates with iphone
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If you're aware, Samsung flagships get 2 years of major updates, one year of monthly security updates and one year for quarterly security updates, which equals 4 years of updates, and if you add the first year before receiving the first major update, it's 5, similar to iPhones, and since iOS doesn't bring a lot of new things with their updates, it's basically the same thing.
I'm having so much fun using my S9 and I never got bored even after 2 years of use, and now I'm waiting for OneUI2.1 ? It's true that battery life isn't great but my friend's iPhone X is worse than my S9, so it's a normal thing after 2 years of use, at least for 2017/2018 flagships.
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My battery drains too fast.. and I disable the features and not play games..
I have this only 2 years..
If I have 15%.. it was going down to 0% so fast..
maybe it was caused because of the new updates?
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Come on mate, I also have my s9 from launch, do you seriously think that 3000 mAh is still at 100% capacity? Clue, it's not. After so many long charge cycles, I'd say it's only around 70-75%, equivalent to 2100-2250mAh. Atleast you still got a fast charger that comes with the phone. I'd rather not complain considering the screen is beautiful.
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Come on mate, I also have my s9 from launch, do you seriously think that 3000 mAh is still at 100% capacity? Clue, it's not. After so many long charge cycles, I'd say it's only around 70-75%, equivalent to 2100-2250mAh. Atleast you still got a fast charger that comes with the phone. I'd rather not complain considering the screen is beautiful.
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My battery about 80% according to the accu app about 28 months. Does have screen burn across the bottom of the screen though [emoji24] but I'm not giving up on it yet [emoji1787][emoji1787]
This is totally a software failure.
I am a beta tester and when the first one came out for android 10 the battery life was like when i first had the phone. Lasted all day long. As they rolled out more and more beta updates it got worse again.
This had been one of the worst devices for battery life ever since they updated it.
Hello everyone. I've just bought a brand new Galaxy S9 few days ago. My first impression is awesome. The device is lightning fast despite having 2-year-old hardware. I am totally amazed how Android evolved over the years. Coming from a Galaxy S7, I am more than satisfied with my new phone. However, battery life is becoming a concern for me, as I get more and more familiar with the device. The problem is, phone only lasts half day, at most. I can only get 2-2,5 hours of SOT which is unacceptable for me. I upgraded from my S7 primarily for better battery life. I use most of the smart features like AOD, High Accuracy Location, Edge Notifications, 2K resolution etc. and no power saving mode. Can someone explain how can I increase my battery life without sacrificing all these features?
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Hello everyone. I've just bought a brand new Galaxy S9 few days ago. My first impression is awesome. The device is lightning fast despite having 2-year-old hardware. I am totally amazed how Android evolved over the years. Coming from a Galaxy S7, I am more than satisfied with my new phone. However, battery life is becoming a concern for me, as I get more and more familiar with the device. The problem is, phone only lasts half day, at most. I can only get 2-2,5 hours of SOT which is unacceptable for me. I upgraded from my S7 primarily for better battery life. I use most of the smart features like AOD, High Accuracy Location, Edge Notifications, 2K resolution etc. and no power saving mode. Can someone explain how can I increase my battery life without sacrificing all these features?
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Was it new sealed?
Yeah, brand new dual sim exynos version.
Its down to the software i am totally convinced.
Samsung needs to fix this urgently. It has been going on for at least 2 years and still no fix.
My s9+ drains super fast within minutes once it reaches ~25%. And the "best": if I connect the charger then, it wont charge the battery, but drains even faster to 0%!!! I need to restart the phone.
Tried a full wipe, but no changes!
Samsung needs to read this topic and sort out this mess.
S9 had terrible battery from from the launch. It's the only reason why I regret buying the phone. At least I adapted to terrible battery and learned how to use my phone less so it can survive full day of battery life.
2.5-3.5 screen on time with light tasks only and constant battery saving measures is terrible in my opinion.
Then I bought Galaxy Watch and crippled my battery even more when it connects via bluetooth, it drains so fast it became countdown timer
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S9 had terrible from the launch. It's the only reason why I regret buying the phone. At least I adapted to terrible battery and learned how to use my phone less so it can survive full day of battery life.
2.5-3.5 screen on time with light tasks only and constant battery saving measures is terrible in my opinion.
Then I bought Galaxy Watch and crippled my battery even more when it connects via bluetooth, it drains so fast it became countdown timer
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That's what I was trying to say.
When I first got my S9 I was getting only 4 hours of screen on time while my friend was able to get 6-7 hours on her S8 and she was using it for 1 year at the time. Also every tech website mentioned that the S9 was noticeably worse than the S8 when it comes to battery life.
I got used to it though and I'm keeping my S9 until it stops receiving updates at all.
Purchase a note 10 plus but before I do bit skeptical on battery. Coming from a oneplus device which I have always used from 6 till 8 battery on them devices are excellent. Can get easily 2 days of battery with 7 - 8 sot
And since I am in Europe will get the exynos version.
Battery life is just bad for exynos variants. Period.
depending on your usage one day easily, two would be a challenge
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depending on your usage one day easily, two would be a challenge
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How do you get 1 day? I always have to carry my power bank!
In Europa you should get UK version 976b with SnapDragon ! Nice.
About battery, my phone could reach 2 days, but i'm working & not much time to play with the phone.
Or after a day (in the evening) mine almost never got under 50% battery.
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How do you get 1 day? I always have to carry my power bank!
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Probably not good for the Li battery; the pack holds the internal battery to high V+ levels for more prolonged periods. LI's don't like that.
I cycle mine from roughly 40-80% generally 44-64% ie a 20% charge which yields over 2 hours of Brave browser usage, or longer if watching vids.
I charge 3-4x @day, with the 25 w brick a 20% charge takes 10 minutes* for a charge in the 45-80 range.
Li's loved to be used like this...
Idle current on homescreen with no apps running should be at 60-400 ma with about an average of 140 ma drain max.
Find the hogs eating the battery and weed them out! I'm running Pie with all power management disabled except it's set to the display mode "Optimized" in Device Manager with only Fast Charge toggled. Animations disabled and a lot of package blocked bloatware plus all cloud apps including Google Transport.
*that's not long... break time.
For today, my Note 10+ is currently sitting at 4hr 15min of screen on time and I have 59% battery remaining. That's on WiFi, which helps, but the Snapdragon version is a beast for battery life.
Compared to my Note 20 Ultra, I'm getting pribably 30% more battery life out of the Note 10+
Bit more than 7h SOT with 20% remaining on 976b. On wifi mostly, only about half hour of gaming.
Not bad in my opinion. Two days could be doable with bit more saving.
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Battery life is just bad for exynos variants. Period.
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, No, it is not, and by the way you talk, you most surely do not own a 975F, I do have a note10+ exynos variant, and the battery life is good, good enough as expected, you just repeat the stories about the s20, note20 and which are significative, in the case of the 10 series, the differences are not that big
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, No, it is not, and by the way you talk, you most surely do not own a 975F, I do have a note10+ exynos variant, and the battery life is good, good enough as expected, you just repeat the stories about the s20, note20 and which are significative, in the case of the 10 series, the differences are not that big
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Yes, it is bad. I precisely have the exynos F model and it's just getting worse after every update. Exynos crap is just utterly disappointing. It's a very good phone with horrible battery management. Just have a look at reddit and you'll find many frustrated consumers like me!!
Then, if it is true that you "have" an exynos 975F, most surely it is a defective unit, or a copycat, or whatever, mine is already one year old and performs as day one, excellent battery endurance, no overhating, zero lag, no burn in, etc, exactly as it should be , now if your gripe is that"snapdragons are better, blah, blah, blah" that is another matter, long fiscussed months ago, and really inconsequential at this time
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Then, if it is true that you "have" an exynos 975F, most surely it is a defective unit, or a copycat, or whatever, mine is already one year old and performs as day one, excellent battery endurance, no overhating, zero lag, no burn in, etc, exactly as it should be , now if your gripe is that"snapdragons are better, blah, blah, blah" that is another matter, long fiscussed months ago, and really inconsequential at this time
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It's an original, "non defective" unit. So then maybe you're lucky or got a special unit. I'm not comparing it with snapdragon because frankly you can't compare a rolls to a merc
But yeah I'm just one of the many many frustrated users.
(My previous note 3 was a battery beast! )
Well, good luck next time, as it is clear you need it
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Well, good luck next time, as it is clear you need it
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Yeah thanks . Me and hundreds and thousands of more exynos users like me
Exactly, exactly so for you, unfortunate people, that's it
Haha ???
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How do you get 1 day? I always have to carry my power bank!
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Subham jyoti said:
Yes, it is bad. I precisely have the exynos F model and it's just getting worse after every update. Exynos crap is just utterly disappointing. It's a very good phone with horrible battery management. Just have a look at reddit and you'll find many frustrated consumers like me!!
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Hard reset if you haven't already.
Time for a fresh OS load!
(It's possible the firmware got corrupted during one of the updates and the whole mess needs reflashed.)
Get PD MDM package blocker and disable some of the obvious offenders when you're not using them.
Disable Samsung Device Manager and don't toggle on anything except the main power management/display resolution to optimize and on the 3 button menu toggle on fast charge, then disable it. Toggle it on as needed. Let Android manage the power it's self. Disable all 3rd party power management... they will create conflicts that cause excessive polling.
You'll need to play with it to work out what's sucking the battery down on your particular setup. My idle current right now is 158 ma if I'm not using the keypad in the browser.
Monitor current drain and track down what's driving up cpu usage.
On my 3rd reload and spent a lot of time optimizing this Snapdragon variant, it's runs great... now.
More then once it was a hot running, battery draining hog.
The Exynos is the same form factor so it's similar in performance potential as the Snapdragon.
If it was a bomb the sales would reflect it by now.
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Hard reset if you haven't already.
Time for a fresh OS load!
(It's possible the firmware got corrupted during one of the updates and the whole mess needs reflashed.)
Get PD MDM package blocker and disable some of the obvious offenders when you're not using them.
Disable Samsung Device Manager and don't toggle on anything except the main power management/display resolution to optimize and on the 3 button menu toggle on fast charge, then disable it. Toggle it on as needed. Let Android manage the power it's self. Disable all 3rd party power management... they will create conflicts that cause excessive polling.
You'll need to play with it to work out what's sucking the battery down on your particular setup. My idle current right now is 158 ma if I'm not using the keypad in the browser.
Monitor current drain and track down what's driving up cpu usage.
On my 3rd reload and spent a lot of time optimizing this Snapdragon variant, it's runs great... now.
More then once it was a hot running, battery draining hog.
The Exynos is the same form factor so it's similar in performance potential as the Snapdragon.
If it was a bomb the sales would reflect it by now.
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Thanks for the input. Will give it a shot.
Gonna try to get hold of a snapdragon version . i am in UK so any tips on where to get one
Well if you have the resources go for it. Try ebay. However, you won't get warranty. But trust me exynos is garbage!
so this is a late post of a dead spin off of a phone.
it was always rumored that last updates of a samsung phone were designed to kill the battery.
I'm wondering, I have a soildly refurbished phone, it was running Marshmellow for a bit and seemed to drain. I flashed G891AUCS6CSI2_8.0 which is like the second last update. it RUNS smooth, it actually runs quite well, phone works and everything.
but the battery life is trash.
I might get 2 hours SOT. and it lasts like 5 hours overall... REALLY bad.
pretty unacceptable for a referbished phone even. Accubattery tells me that I only have around 62% of battery capacity. I don't know how accurate this is... but holy this battery is so bad.
thats such a shame for such a legendary battery runtime when it came out.
is it my battery? or is it this god damn firmware?
Something is odd with your motherboard, probably the power integrated circuit. I had S7 for a long time, when I first got it, it used to last all day with around 6+ Hrs SOT on LTE.
It worsened till only around ±4 Hrs SOT in a time period of ~8 Hrs.
I don't think it's firmware. Never felt battery drain after update before. You'll only lose money fixing the phone.
You can get A20 for maybe 100$.
mobo!? why the mobo? wouldn't it be the battery?
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mobo!? why the mobo? wouldn't it be the battery?
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It's non-removable, and it's very rare for Samsung phones to have this low-life battery. Galaxy S6 was an exception. Galaxy S7 is not.
But you're free to replace the battery. Here, we recommend the best option, considering the pocket.
I know it takes firmwares to settle on a battery when first flashed... I'm starting to get up to 65%...still really bad for a 4000mah s7 active referb phone...
damnit... I'll likely send it back, I want to know more about this power integrated circuit being a calpurit of failing S7s
Just got a Ebay S7 Active on the latest update
G891AUCS6CSI2and it's a absolute dog lag city worse than my Galaxy On5. The smashed Galaxy A10 I have on 9.0 is super fast compared to this about 10x speed loading apps and even the keyboard lags on the S7. Is there a way to downgrade from 8.slow to 6.0 or 7.0?
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I know it takes firmwares to settle on a battery when first flashed... I'm starting to get up to 65%...still really bad for a 4000mah s7 active referb phone...
damnit... I'll likely send it back, I want to know more about this power integrated circuit being a calpurit of failing S7s
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Before I get rid of my S7, it had like 67% battery performance (said by Kernel manager), it used to last for like ~4Hrs SoT, I'd move at 8 A.M. and return back at sunset.
Something is wrong with your 4K mAh phone, compared to the regular 3K mAh variant, that's a very huge gap to be "just software".
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Just got a Ebay S7 Active on the latest update
G891AUCS6CSI2and it's a absolute dog lag city worse than my Galaxy On5. The smashed Galaxy A10 I have on 9.0 is super fast compared to this about 10x speed loading apps and even the keyboard lags on the S7. Is there a way to downgrade from 8.slow to 6.0 or 7.0?
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The bootloaders are locked so I highly doubt its possible...I ran Oreo on my older s7 active on.BRE7 firmware and while the active button to take a camera shot was busted everything else worked just fine on it. I got decent battery life (not perfect but better then this) and maps ran much faster.
Man...its time to.accept that the s7 active is just dead. Being locked AT&T really held it back and removing.the screen from the front to replace the battery? **** that, people complain about servicing batteries today but at least it's still doable unlike this phone..
They even fixed this for the s8 active
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Before I get rid of my S7, it had like 67% battery performance (said by Kernel manager), it used to last for like ~4Hrs SoT, I'd move at 8 A.M. and return back at sunset.
Something is wrong with your 4K mAh phone, compared to the regular 3K mAh variant, that's a very huge gap to be "just software".
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And.your saying it wouldn't be just the battery?
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And.your saying it wouldn't be just the battery?
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Yes.
Damn....I returned it. This may be an an issue buying any referb phone from China...
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Damn....I returned it. This may be an an issue buying any referb phone from China...
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Return if you can otherwise replace the battery.
Not a big deal unless you screw around until the battery fails which can destroy the phone.
A Li's service lifespan is when it reaches 80% of its original capacity. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail.
Any swelling is a failure.
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
if battery is the only concern. s21. or better yet. another brand
Nil96 said:
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
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I've not been into Samsung for years, as I don't like their software and often find their hardware substandard for the price. MIUI/Xiaomi offers a choice between modern status bar/notifications, modern app recents and improves upon stock Android without bloating it up.
Three hottest phones right now
Xiaomi Poco F3
Realme GT Neo 3
Xiaomi Redmi K50/K50 Pro (2k display)
I'm usually a snapdragon fan, but this snapdragon gen 1 has overheating and high power consumption issues.
had s21 and it had better battery life
I've got the 8 Gen 1 S22 and it's sufficient to say it's a terrible phone. It overheats, it gets stuttery most of the time probably because it's getting throttled, and the battery is bad. From 100 to 50% it's bad and from 50% and below it's terrible because it drains faster. And it's even worse when the phone runs hot, which is pretty much gonna be the norm in a hot summer environment. Then there's the last 5% which is non-existent because it's basically like a countdown in seconds from 5 to 0%. In other words, if your phone hit 5% it's gonna turn off in a matter of seconds if you don't plug it in ASAP.
So the math is kind of like this and note that I'm gonna talk about a period of 24h of use, both active and idle:
- you've got a battery of 3590mAh, the real capacity. I'm gonna cut that 5% right now because that simply doesn't exist. That means 180mA, which leaves you with just 3410mAh.
- 25-30% is the idle drain, and it's gonna stay in this range no matter what you're gonna try to do. Believe me, I tried EVRYTHING, even turning off cores and so on. The damn thing finds a way to drain battery with the screen off somehow.
- you're now left with only 65% of actually battery for SOT. That translates into ~2216mAh. That is all you have from a full charge.
- now the active drain is gonna be ~20%/h no matter what any battery monitor app tells you. That is 682mA/h.
*** This is all with normal use, which includes more than just watching videos, scenario in which the lack of touch events + the screen on will count towards that SOT recording and of course that's gonna increase the SOT. But that's kind of like fake SOT. When you start swiping up and down within apps, switching between them, browsing the web, which all means that you're getting the CPU to go from a range of frequencies, is when the actual real usage happens, so that's the true SOT of a phone.***
So, to get back to the math part, you're gonna get 3h15m. You're gonna watch some videos, I don't doubt that and that's gonna reduce that 20%/h to something lower, as long as there are no touch events. That's gonna get you over 3h30m. If you're watching a lot of YouTube and such, you can hit 4h SOT. But the average SOT for this phone is 3.5h.
That is terrible battery life for a phone in 2022. Samsung's node for the 8 Gen 1 was a complete fail and that is why Qualcomm went back to TSMC for the 8 Gen 1 Plus, and the efficiency gains for just a refresh of the same CPU, are insane. We're talking about 30% more efficiency. Insane! The 8 Gen 1 is pathetic and it's rarely gonna run the way it was meant to because it can't due to the heat it constantly produces. Paired with the small S22, there's not enough phone to dissipate that heat more efficiently, and therefore you're left with a choked out "beast". I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that if I choke out The Rock and make him run with me on his back, he's not gonna perform very well, no matter how buff he is.
The bigger brother though, the S22+ is not gonna have the same issues. There's more material to dissipate the heat more efficiently and there's also a considerably larger battery inside. Not a lot bigger but big enough. You've got the same screen so the power consumption is gonna be different. Now all those percentages I mentioned above are gonna be based on the bigger battery. The idle drain is gonna stay the same but instead of 30%, that value would be ~24%. If that 5% issue is the same, you're left with ~3100mAh for SOT. The active drain would then be 16%/h. If my math is correct, with some room for error, you'd be able to get 4h40m with the same usage I initially mentioned for the smaller phone. With those reduced touch event during the videos, you'd be able to get over 5h out of it on a 24h charge. And if that 5% issue is not present, you've got ~200 more mA which would give roughly 20 more minutes over 5h, for SOT. Not that bad.
That's why I regret getting the small phone. Not as much as getting rid of the 13Pro I used before it, which offered me the best battery life I've ever had in a phone, but I still regret it.
In conclusion, you either go big in the Android world, or suffer. Or you can get the S21 and have better battery life than the S22. Your choice.
did you get latest June updates installed on it? I have already returned my galaxy s22 but another person who i know who was using his s22 on power save mode turned off after the latest update. He said it helped a lot?
S8_guy said:
did you get latest June updates installed on it? I have already returned my galaxy s22 but another person who i know who was using his s22 on power save mode turned off after the latest update. He said it helped a lot?
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Don't be fooled by any claims. The battery is simply too small to have noticeable gains. One moment you think it's doing great and suddenly the table turns. For instance you'd think 2h50m SOT at the 50% mark is great and you'll get at least another 2.5h out of it considering how much battery you still have, but then later that day you see that you just hit 3.5h SOT and the battery is now at 15%. So the stats are very tweaked to mislead you and not show the real SOT. It's kind of what Apple does with the percentage that's over 90% where the battery drops very slowly but then it starts to get faster.
With Power Saver mode at all times, Google's services freak out a lot more frequent because they can't send and receive data at any time without interruptions. That results in even higher idle drain. You virtually gain no additional battery life, or something small that you can barely call gains.
So you gotta use the phone as is, without any interventions this way allowing it to perform anything it needs to do in the background. After getting mine to stock, I've been getting that 3.5, 4h SOT which is pretty consistent right now. I don't look at the drain or how much per hour gets wasted, etc. I just use it as a regular folk who doesn't know about these more in depth stats. This way I only got used to charging it a certain way and not caring about the rest. If by any chance I notice a higher drain than usual, again, I don't investigate because I know it'll only get me depressed or something. I just reboot the phone and thing settle for a while.
It's the best way to use this terrible phone. You were very inspired when you decided to return it. Literally ANYTHING on the market is better than this thing.
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Don't be fooled by any claims. The battery is simply too small to have noticeable gains. One moment you think it's doing great and suddenly the table turns. For instance you'd think 2h50m SOT at the 50% mark is great and you'll get at least another 2.5h out of it considering how much battery you still have, but then later that day you see that you just hit 3.5h SOT and the battery is now at 15%. So the stats are very tweaked to mislead you and not show the real SOT. It's kind of what Apple does with the percentage that's over 90% where the battery drops very slowly but then it starts to get faster.
With Power Saver mode at all times, Google's services freak out a lot more frequent because they can't send and receive data at any time without interruptions. That results in even higher idle drain. You virtually gain no additional battery life, or something small that you can barely call gains.
So you gotta use the phone as is, without any interventions this way allowing it to perform anything it needs to do in the background. After getting mine to stock, I've been getting that 3.5, 4h SOT which is pretty consistent right now. I don't look at the drain or how much per hour gets wasted, etc. I just use it as a regular folk who doesn't know about these more in depth stats. This way I only got used to charging it a certain way and not caring about the rest. If by any chance I notice a higher drain than usual, again, I don't investigate because I know it'll only get me depressed or something. I just reboot the phone and thing settle for a while.
It's the best way to use this terrible phone. You were very inspired when you decided to return it. Literally ANYTHING on the market is better than this thing.
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I am thinking about switching over to iphone. My existing galaxy s8 is old. I really like to iphone 13 mini, but not sure about its battery life. I guess it has a 14 day return period as well.
If that doesn't do it, then i might go for the regular iphone 13.
S8_guy said:
I am thinking about switching over to iphone. My existing galaxy s8 is old. I really like to iphone 13 mini, but not sure about its battery life. I guess it has a 14 day return period as well.
If that doesn't do it, then i might go for the regular iphone 13.
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This is how it goes. Small Android devices will NEVER give you great battery life, and I'm talking about the likes of S22 and such in terms of size and also with the title of flagship device. You just can't have both. I learn it the hard way, which is wasting money on devices for the past 3 years to reach this conclusion.
So if you want a powerful Android device with more than good battery life, you gotta go big. No way around it. If someone claims that they're getting great SOT on their small Android phone, that's because they're very light users, mostly watching videos. That means no touch events and that translates into very few frequency rampups and that in its turn means lower CPU usage that gives you longer SOT, but that's not representative of the regular usage which involves a lot more than that.
Only Apple offers great battery life in a smaller form factor and that's mainly because it's a hell of a lot easier job to optimize the software for a handful of devices which have the most important pieces of hardware inside built inhouse. It's just the absolute best situation for them.
However, going for the smallest phone would be a mistake. You'd get decent battery life for that size but it's still bad. The regular 13 is the best choice if you still want a small phone. I'd personally get the 13 Pro which has even better battery life than the regular variant plus the 120Hz screen. And let me tell you, the level of smoothness you get from 120Hz iOS is on a whole another level than on 120Hz Android. iOS has a lot less frequent frame drops, and by that I mean they're almost non existent. On Android, framedrops are everywhere and anywhere, no matter how "buttery smooth" people claim it is. It's not. The frame dips, the so called stutters, are noticeable and they occur most of the time no matter the app, when you scroll up and down. It's always been there.
But yeah, get an iPhone and you'll see what I'm talking about. After selling my 13 Pro to go back on Android because I got bored of iOS, I regretted it when I saw the battery life on my S22, not to mention overheating and overall poor performance because of that.
Something else to consider is how much better iPhones hold their value compared to Android phones. I can get a brand new S22 for $570 from the trading market in my country. I paid $1040 for my current crap of a phone. It's nearly half the price now. At the same time, I can buy a brand new 13 Pro from the same place for $1025, the cheapest one. I paid $1250 for mine when I got it last year in October. That's just $225 value lost in 8 months. The S22's price dropped to nearly half in just 3 months. It's just insane.
So get a 13 or 13 Pro, or if you can wait a little longer, get a 14. I'm getting the 14 Pro Max, without thinking twice. It's a brick but I don't want to have to worry about battery life ever again, to force close apps and services and constantly check on the background activity so I can try to save some juice.
My POV though. Android has always been letting me down
My galaxy s8 used to last two full days when i got it new. Nowadays, it last me a full day with regular use, keep in mind that i put a new battery in it and did not update to the latest firmware. It has only two year of update and it killed the battery by one day.
Those updates age the phone, doesn't matter which OS it is ( android or ios). I am going to do a trial on the 13 mini, and if that doesn't work i am going to go for the iphone 14 pro ( not the max). the pro models will ditch the notch as well. It would be one hell of an upgrade from my s8.
Not sure, why you didn't return your galaxy s22 during the trial period?
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My galaxy s8 used to last two full days when i got it new. Nowadays, it last me a full day with regular use, keep in mind that i put a new battery in it and did not update to the latest firmware. It has only two year of update and it killed the battery by one day.
Those updates age the phone, doesn't matter which OS it is ( android or ios). I am going to do a trial on the 13 mini, and if that doesn't work i am going to go for the iphone 14 pro ( not the max). the pro models will ditch the notch as well. It would be one hell of an upgrade from my s8.
Not sure, why you didn't return your galaxy s22 during the trial period?
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When I ordered this thing, I also put in the cart a white Samsung bumper case too. When I received the package, I unboxed the phone and the case, put the phone in it then booted up the device. It was a pretty tight fit. After 4 days I decided that nope, I'm not keeping this pathetic thing. So I already had a few tabs open with some guys selling their Pixel 5 phones. I just needed to choose one.
So I take out the S22 out of the case and surprise! Micro scratches all around the frame from when I inserted the phone in the case. Because the damn case is made of a hard material and the plastic inside wasn't completely smooth at the edge, all the tiny imperfections left a mark on the supposedly military grade aluminium the frame is made of, when I inserted it in it. Marketing at its finest. I then emailed the store I ordered the phone from and they asked the department in charge how it would go from there if I returned the phone in that condition. They tagged it as "non-returnable" because it's not in the same condition and cannot be sold as new anymore. OR they could deduce a tax that consists of replacing the frame with a new original one. That also includes the display and the whole restoration of the device would mean -400 euros from the initial price. Just from those micro scratches around the frame.
So that's why I'm now stuck with this thing. I even took it out of the case, removed the screen protector and I'm using it naked. It's all scuffed and scratched from just using it like that, without dropping it or anything. The durability of this thing is absolutely pathetic, a complete joke.
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When I ordered this thing, I also put in the cart a white Samsung bumper case too. When I received the package, I unboxed the phone and the case, put the phone in it then booted up the device. It was a pretty tight fit. After 4 days I decided that nope, I'm not keeping this pathetic thing. So I already had a few tabs open with some guys selling their Pixel 5 phones. I just needed to choose one.
So I take out the S22 out of the case and surprise! Micro scratches all around the frame from when I inserted the phone in the case. Because the damn case is made of a hard material and the plastic inside wasn't completely smooth at the edge, all the tiny imperfections left a mark on the supposedly military grade aluminium the frame is made of, when I inserted it in it. Marketing at its finest. I then emailed the store I ordered the phone from and they asked the department in charge how it would go from there if I returned the phone in that condition. They tagged it as "non-returnable" because it's not in the same condition and cannot be sold as new anymore. OR they could deduce a tax that consists of replacing the frame with a new original one. That also includes the display and the whole restoration of the device would mean -400 euros from the initial price. Just from those micro scratches around the frame.
So that's why I'm now stuck with this thing. I even took it out of the case, removed the screen protector and I'm using it naked. It's all scuffed and scratched from just using it like that, without dropping it or anything. The durability of this thing is absolutely pathetic, a complete joke.
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Absolute tragedy! Sounds like your just stuck with this phone for sometime or your other choice is to sell for a loss in the used market.
On a side note, I ordered a case and screen protector online for the galaxy s22. It arrived a month after i returned the phone. I lost about $15 on it. I was too cheap to order it from samsung directly.
The regular iphone 13 looks like the phone to get for me, I guess i will wait for iphone 14 to launch and buy the iphone 13 on a discount.
S8_guy said:
Absolute tragedy! Sounds like your just stuck with this phone for sometime or your other choice is to sell for a loss in the used market.
The regular iphone 13 looks like the phone to get for me, I guess i will wait for iphone 14 to launch and buy the iphone 13 on a discount.
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Good idea. The regular 14 I believe the rumours say will look identical to the 13 too.
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Good idea. The regular 14 I believe the rumours say will look identical to the 13 too.
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lol...also has the same processor. Not sure, what would the upgrade really be.
Nil96 said:
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
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I don't think the the battery will be that much of an issue for S22 because the phone itself is more efficient then the S21. So technically you should get more out of the smaller battery.
S20 or S20 Ultra will be a better option then S22.
I bought the S22 only because my old phone died and the S22 was on sale and in stock.
Other wise I would have bought the S20.
The S22 series are new with a lot more great specs so you can get any S22 series model!