Question GPS constantly active / in use according to battery historian - ImsService? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Hi guys,
since two days I noticed that my battery is draining a lot quicker.
I pushed two full days to battery historian and noticed that in each day, GPS was constantly on and in use.
When checking the "last app that accessed location" then it was always "ImsService" that used it "0 mins ago" or "1 mins ago".
Day 1:
Total GPS use: 12h 20min
GPS use by app: ANDROID_SYSTEM 12h 20min
Day 2:
Total GPS use: 8h 7min
GPS use by app: ANDROID_SYSTEM 8h 7min
The only thing I changed in these last few days was deleting an e-sim and adding a new e-sim.
Any suggestions on what to do?
I have BBS installed but it can't seem to see what is causing the GPS drain with BBS.
Thanks!

Another weird thing I noticed:
Amaze & Simple Gallery need permission to access my "SD card" or files.
I have to set the switch to "allow" frequently. Like the permission gets lost every few hours/days.
Full wipe and start from the start? :S
Titanium Backup Pro?

As an update:
Did a factory reset and restored all apps / settings but with only 1 SIM.
For now the phone feels smoother and battery is A LOT better.
I monitored this for 2 days now.
Will activate my 2nd SIM today and see what is changing.
I might also remove Adaway + AFWall.
I believe I might have "crippled" my system too much previously.
I am thinking about going with adguard (which basically does what adaway + afwall does but with better monitoring / logging to find and fix issues) or nextDNS.

Gooble likes to ALWAYS track your location, even if you specifically tell them not to;
40 states settle Google location-tracking charges for $392M
Google has agreed to a $391.5 million settlement with 40 states to resolve an investigation into how the company tracked users' locations.
www.usatoday.com
Among others, this is ONE of many reasons why I use google-free GrapheneOS instead of the crap it ships with.

96carboard said:
Gooble likes to ALWAYS track your location, even if you specifically tell them not to;
40 states settle Google location-tracking charges for $392M
Google has agreed to a $391.5 million settlement with 40 states to resolve an investigation into how the company tracked users' locations.
www.usatoday.com
Among others, this is ONE of many reasons why I use google-free GrapheneOS instead of the crap it ships with.
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Thanks but there might be more to it.
Today I added my 2nd SIM (e-SIM) and noticed that my battery drain has become huge again.
20-30% lost during the night.
So it seems to be related to the second sim.
Things that show up in BBS as main cause:
s5100_wake_lock
Sensor: Dynamic Sensor Manager(1), wakeup=true, Time: 7 h 25 m 4 s
RILJ_ACK_WL
No idea what that is and how to fix it though.

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[Q] High Data Usage Problem (Tilt 2 on ATT)

Hey all, I did not have much luck using the search. Tried to find other people who have had this problem.
We have 4 ATT Tilt 2 phones in my department. All with the same rom, radio, settings, etc. The difference in the phones is that 2 of them were purchased about a year earlier than the other 2.
*PROBLEM* TWO of the phones (the newer purchased Tilt 2's) we are getting alerts for high data usage from ATT. Looked at the ATT data logs, sure enough they have high data usage, large amounts at odd times. like 20mb - 100+mb transfers in the late night early morning, during the day. Not good, it is all adding up quick with no suspect in sight. The 2 users with this problem, use the phone data less than I do for day to day tasks and I am way under the alert limit, its not something they are causing---some of these data periods are while the user is ASLEEP (and no, we do NOT use MS myphone sync). Its got to be a phone software or software compatibility with the newer Tilt 2 hardware or something. I tried a couple different ROMS, same problem. Right now we are all on Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.sencity.Nov.08
Radio: 4.49.25.77 (best signal in our area) Michigan
Please help. Thanks to anybody who can provide some guidance.
MOD feel free to close this thread since nobody seems to be able to help, I will try the ROM Devel thread instead.
what are your settings for weather , mail and Google locations services ?
I set all my mail to check once a day, and manually update it as needed, same for weather...also have you turn off any other automatic services ...
F2504x4 said:
what are your settings for weather , mail and Google locations services ?
I set all my mail to check once a day, and manually update it as needed, same for weather...also have you turn off any other automatic services ...
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Keep in mind its the same for all 4 phones: weather updates every hr, mail every 5 mins (all text,no pictures), location serv on.
whiffer2 said:
Keep in mind its the same for all 4 phones: weather updates every hr, mail every 5 mins (all text,no pictures), location serv on.
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Okay first off i am sure you can monitor your data service, so pick a start time and turn your mail/weather setting to once a day, turn off location service , watch it for 24 hr's then only change the location setting back on for the next 24 hrs leaving the mail and weather the same...compare the results...if it is still using high data, then flash a stock rom...if the usage is still high then i suspect it is a hardware issue..just a guess but it kind sounds like it..
There was a PPC "virus" that was passed around not long ago where the program that was installed contained an executable that would dial long-distance numbers late at night. Try comparing the list of installed programs on the affected devices to the stable devices. Most likely, this sounds like a user generated issue. Feel free to post the list of installed applications here. I will try them out if/when I can find them.
I haven't used it before but have seen it recommended several times on this site...SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spb.com/pocketpc-software/wirelessmonitor/) should be able to tell you what's using the data on your phones.
I wonder if this has anything to do with it (SEEING THAT BOTH OF OUR USERS WITH THE PROBLEM WERE LINKED TO YAHOO MAIL ACCOUNTS! And not the rest of us)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20030159-75.html?tag=cnetRiver
And yes i realize this ref's phone 7 OS, but still...fishy

ICS data usage reporting accurate?

I apologize if this has been brought up before, but the data reporting in ICS is almost double what the myverizon app is showing.
Just wondering if the usage shown by Verizon is going to catch up. If not I got a lot more streaming I can do
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
do you have a task killer installed, if so then you may be killing the myverizon tracker their for its not collecting all data
You need to set the data usage to match your billing cycle dates than it should match. I have found that it needs set manually.
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Don't know about VZ, but comparing Tmo's website and ICS's data meter, they're almost identical (ICS was a few MB ahead)
The 'Total Data Usage' meter appears to be relatively consistent with my operators readings (Sunrise/Switzerland).
On the other hand, the 'per app' reading appears to be completely off the wall. (See this thread.)
etbrandt2 said:
I apologize if this has been brought up before, but the data reporting in ICS is almost double what the myverizon app is showing.
Just wondering if the usage shown by Verizon is going to catch up. If not I got a lot more streaming I can do
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Measured by your phone. Your carrier's data usage accounting may differ.
My carrier (Unitel, Laos) is reporting me using just over double the data ICS is reporting.
I'm on O2 in the UK and the ICS data is about 85 mb behind the networks calculation ?
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
GPSRider said:
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
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You remember to move the slider to correct date? It doesnt do this by default so it looks like your data usage dropped everytime you go to the data usage section.
Yes, it doesn't matter where the sliders are set, I get the same result.
It appears to have forgotten about one week's worth of data, my first week. I got the phone on the sixth and now it is showing zero data used until the 12th.
My usage cycle is set for 27th-26th, so it doesn't make any sense to me that it would suddenly forget about six days of data.
It's forgotten about the data used on the wifi side before the 12th as well.
Any ideas?
GR
For me the "data usage" on the phone was reporting slightly higher than VZW, but imo that's better than slightly lower!
badassirocz said:
You need to set the data usage to match your billing cycle dates than it should match. I have found that it needs set manually.
Please hit the thanks button if I helped.
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There is no way to set it manually! If I am wrong please correct me.
GPSRider said:
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
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Yes I have experienced the same! I was around 3GB, my phone went completely dead on a Sat night, when I plugged it up in the car and tried to boot it back up it apparently didn't have the juice to boot all the way. I let it charge for a while, booted it, all my SMS tones had been reset and so was my "data usage"!! Sucks!
Well, I have let the battery run down until the phone turned itself off several times, but I hope this is not causing this problem. That would be a pretty significant bug!

[Q] Built in data usage app

This seems to have been asked in a few previous posts, however, I can find no definitive answer.
My problem revolves around a spike in data usage last night. I had decided with the announcement of Google Reader being retired (grrr) I would replace gReader as my default RSS reader with RssDemon (which actually turns out to be just as good).
Once I had manually added all my feeds into RssDemon, I decided to uninstall gReader. This was whilst at home and connected to wi-fi.
Within a couple of hours I received my preset warning over data usage, which upon checking had spiked up 140mb due to 'Removed Apps'.
Now, having only had the phone a couple of weeks, I have monitored data usage very closely from day one, to ensure there are no background services wasting my data plan.
My gReader usage before uninstalling was around the 35mb mark. Why on earth would it jump up so high just from removal ?
Has it actually used the data or is it possible it is an error in the calculation within the Usage app itself ?
Any help / advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lee
Couple of Questions
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I think you might have misunderstood how these forum type things work mate
You may want to try and start your own thread
wenndie said:
Hi
I have two Note II's. One I bought and rooted (Korean made) then had a few problems so I bought another (made in China - different sellers).
Anyway the first one is good now with PACMAN AOKP 4.2.2 the other still fully Samsung.
I cant get my work exchange email to work on either. Any recommendations for an app? Will happily pay if it will work.
secondly I would like to install a nice bootanimation on my rooted device, something tasteful like the mega droid walk. Will this work on my 4.2.2/ Have had issues installing any bootanimations so I rerooted and dont want to stuff it up again
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I think you might have misunderstood how these forum type things work mate
You may want to try and start your own thread
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humble apologies = my error entirely
no worries mate
Anyone able to offer any possible explanations ?
Did you ever change roms? And restore data via titanium backup?
Because if you o store usage data via titanium backup then there is a chance of getting it corrupted. Sometimes after reset it would show me that system. UI has use 1.97 his which actually real racing 3 has use this is I think it's because android signs apps unique id on the basis of which it stores data usage. When you reset it probably assigns them which overlap which previous ones which caused the data usage to show wrong info.
this is SPARTAAA
TommyPeanuts said:
This seems to have been asked in a few previous posts, however, I can find no definitive answer.
My problem revolves around a spike in data usage last night. I had decided with the announcement of Google Reader being retired (grrr) I would replace gReader as my default RSS reader with RssDemon (which actually turns out to be just as good).
Once I had manually added all my feeds into RssDemon, I decided to uninstall gReader. This was whilst at home and connected to wi-fi.
Within a couple of hours I received my preset warning over data usage, which upon checking had spiked up 140mb due to 'Removed Apps'.
Now, having only had the phone a couple of weeks, I have monitored data usage very closely from day one, to ensure there are no background services wasting my data plan.
My gReader usage before uninstalling was around the 35mb mark. Why on earth would it jump up so high just from removal ?
Has it actually used the data or is it possible it is an error in the calculation within the Usage app itself ?
Any help / advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lee
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Does your carrier not provide you with an option to check actual data usage from their end? You could compare and see the actual one with the built in usage data.
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Battery drain problem and camera temporary fix

Hello there. Yesterday I saw strange process named mm-qcamera-daemon. After research about this issues, I found info about this -> a massive battery drain, caused by bugged camera driver (only in 4.4.2).
For me, I found solution -> Permission manager . In my case, the new Viber 5.x.x make my camera non-stop working and the battery is terrible! I just forbade Camera permission in Viber, restart the device and everything was fine. In other option - just remove Viber, restart and check what is the result.
* In the store, you can find many perm mng
My device -> S3 Neo I9301I stock with Odin Rox root method
Thanks for the note. I have already notified the developers at Viber and they fixed the issue with their latest release.
For those who use the old editions, you can use Permission Manager or DonkeyGuard... Both serve the same purpose
Update: after few days, I reaslized, that my I9301I beauty has many services and apps, that comming with stock ROM (yes, I use it, plus the root method from @Rox) and personally I installed one file manager, viber, web browser, mobile operator app for control over my mobile data charges and etc.; Shazam, app for local weather, file manager, office packet, forum reader and few other stuff. With this configuration, my phone was able to drain the battery with 10-15% for like a 20 mins! So I decide to take care of this problem and try few things, that may be will inscrease the battery life.
Well, I use my I9301I for Gmail, web browsing (different from Chrome, because Chrome drain too much CPU power), file manager for opening/reading doc, txt files, Viber for chat and internet calls and more than 51% of the time -> like a ordinary phone for calls and SMS messages. After one day test I've got very good result - 8% battery drain for 14 hours work day. I'll make future update after week or two.
To this moment, I do several thing to complete – I installed a few very important applications – AppOps manager, Greenify, Xposed, FastDormancy and Greenified -> with this I double the battery life for over few days – 3 days with Wifi/ data and 7 days like just a normal call/ sms mobile phone!!! I must say something else – over wifi, my battery is batter, mobile data draining around 50% more power! I sync the apps update and gmail sync only 3 to 6 times per day, because of my job. I doesn’t use social applications like Facebook, Google+ and etc. Look closer to my process list – it’s optimized for my purpose only!!! You must carefully watch with process is frozen and why. Future updates with more info, after 2-3 weeks of using the custom @Rox rom.
Best regards!
PM - Big thanks and hitting over the 323254 times Thanks button to @Rox and others guys to share their experience with the community!
i found beter fix, just enable powersave on stock when you dont use phone it will prevent from that drain
Can I ask you which app you used to block all these processes? and in case if there's a free alternative...
And how did you tell the phone to synchronize only 3-6 times per day
This second s3 neo is drivin me crazy. I'm only using whatsapp (very very often) and my battery lasts sth like 10 hours. Now with the cores set to 300mhz with kernel adiutor it dropped from 100 to 74% in 3 hours.
My mom with a similar config on a s3 neo can do 2 full days with a super light whatsapp use and with ABSOLUTELY NO kind of power saving mode on.
I cannot believe that all this is whatsapp related. Seriously.

General Mobile network standby battery drain - WORKING Workaround fix

Let me preface here with the following:
I'm on the latest Android 12 beta at the time of this post, and I will lose anywhere from 20-40% of my battery without doing the fixes I'm going to lay out in this post. My phone is an unlocked Pixel 6 pro straight from Google, in use for T-Mobile. I did move from physical SIM to eSIM a while back, which did resolve my Bluetooth or Wi-Fi constant drops somehow.
If you care more about 5G connection than battery, then move along and ignore this, as we'll be putting the phone to preference LTE.
Almost all of these fixes I easily found when googling my issues, save the last step, I don't recall seeing that posted anywhere and tried it on my own to finally get positive results. It ended up fully resolving the stand by drain of my battery.
Here are the settings and steps, followed by some battery results after some use.
Setting 1: Under Dev options, turn off "mobile data always active"
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Setting 2: Under Settings > Network & Internet, turn "Adaptive Connectivity" off. I have not noticed any issues with switching from WiFi to Mobile data, so I'm unsure how much help this setting actually is.
Setting 3: Under Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs (T-Mobile in my case), change "Preferred Network Type" to "LTE"
It will say 5G recommended, and that should be selected by default.
Optional, if you want to match me, change or confirm Wi-Fi calling to "Call over Wi-Fi", though I don't think this part matters.
Setting 4 (Final setting, and the part that actually saw the improvement to my battery)
In the same place as setting 3, Under Settings > Network & Internet > Carrier (T-Mobile in my case)
REMOVE the "Automatically Select Network" option, then ensure your carrier is selected under "Choose Network"
* I wondered if this would cause me issue during travel, and during easter weekend, driving 5 hours away to family, it caused me zero problems *
Within the first few hours, then days, I saw MASSIVE improvements to my battery life vs what it was before with defaults.
Example 1: Throughout my work day I lost only 11%, whereas before I would easily be at 70% or less without hardly picking up the device. I check my phone for alerts, MFA codes, and maybe a few other notifications throughout the day. Not much screen on time. IMHO any new phone should only be losing 0.5-1% with the screen off per hour, and this is the first time this has been the case with my P6P.
Example 2: Bed at 10pm, awake at 6:23am, and only lost 6%. I'd not thought this possible a week ago...
And there you have it. I hope this helps someone facing issues with stand-by drain, and I know (like all issues with P6P), this is not affecting everyone it seems. I've been waiting since November for a fix, and this is the best I can get right now. LTE is plenty fast for me, and I'm on my home Gig internet WiFi nearly all the time anyway. I don't know that every single setting in this post is absolutely necessary, but its what is working for me.
I know there have been other posts, but I only saw them as a post of the issue, with an assortment of fixes throughout the threads. I wanted to post this as more of a resolution (well workaround) to an issue many of us know of.
I'll put thread notables after this line (suggestions others have to improve battery life around networking)
This one is from @Morgrain
Turn off:
Wifi scanning
Bluetooth scanning.
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Both settings can be found under location services. For a further battery life improvement, Google Location Accuracy can also be deactivated, even though I personally let the stay ON, since it makes a difference in GPS location, meaning if you turn it off, GPS becomes noticeably less accurate.
I never turned off the keep the data active, but one of the first things I turned off was 5G.
At 100% charge before bed, 8 hours later, I usually loose 2-3% of battery.
p51d007 said:
I never turned off the keep the data active, but one of the first things I turned off was 5G.
At 100% charge before bed, 8 hours later, I usually loose 2-3% of battery.
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Just turning off 5G didn't do much or anything for me. So weird how this issue hits people differently. Actually sounds like this issue may not have affected you at all, but you got some additional battery saving via the general 5G turn off.
Oddly enough I cant choose my network on Xfinity Mobile. Clicking the toggle brings me to the selection screen and selecting my carrier does nothing
You pay good money to get the latest greatest flagship and you disable one of the greatest benefits, 5g network capability. I don't get the logic.
scott.hart.bti said:
You pay good money to get the latest greatest flagship and you disable one of the greatest benefits, 5g network capability. I don't get the logic.
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It's a simple logic (speaking for OP here, and other people with the same issues).
The manufacturer of this phone used an inefficient, old modem (something that 99% of the customer base was not aware of before buying the phone) that causes massive (battery) problems when actually utilizing this feature. And now humans are trying to find a middle ground, meaning keeping the phone but improving battery life, by disabling features that have little meaning in everyday life (5G is cosmetic at best, 4G is plenty for YouTube streaming or music streaming). I never had a situation in my life, where I thought "man, having 200 MB/s more connection speed now would be super important on my phone!"
People scroll the web, watch videos, watch twitter/tiktok whatever feeds and listen to music. For that 4G (and 4G+) is more then enough. 5G only really makes sense if you want to use it as a hotspot for a PC or laptop, and even then 5G is only truly useful when downloading or uploading bigger data files - a use case that most people probably do not have (most people have WiFi where they spend their everyday life).
So I do not understand, why you do not see that obvious logic?
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Regarding OP: The manually "Select Network" sounds like an interesting idea. I'm not sure why it would make a difference (since the phone should only ever select the carrier network anyway), but I'll give it a try and see how it works. Personally, my battery life experience ever since updating to the march update (and now April) has been abysmal. Where I- before - went to sleep with 20% left in the battery, I now need to top up, every day, around 2000. Meaning I lost about ~30% of battery life since updating to Android 12l (nothing else changed, my usecase is the same, SoT is the same, wifi/LTE ratio is still the same). Hopefully your trick/idea can make a difference. I've grown annoyed at carrying a power bank with me (again), something that I didn't have to do since I bought the phone in October (until march).
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A trick that also saves battery life (OP should put it in his text) is deactivating
Wifi scanning
Bluetooth scanning.
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Both settings can be found under location services. For a further battery life improvement, Google Location Accuracy can also be deactivated, even though I personally let the stay ON, since it makes a difference in GPS location, meaning if you turn it off, GPS becomes noticeably less accurate.
(my wifi scanning reactivated on it's own after march update, check yours!)
Gerr1985 said:
Let me preface here with the following:
I'm on the latest Android 12 beta at the time of this post, and I will lose anywhere from 20-40% of my battery without doing the fixes I'm going to lay out in this post. My phone is an unlocked Pixel 6 pro straight from Google, in use for T-Mobile. I did move from physical SIM to eSIM a while back, which did resolve my Bluetooth or Wi-Fi constant drops somehow.
If you care more about 5G connection than battery, then move along and ignore this, as we'll be putting the phone to preference LTE.
Almost all of these fixes I easily found when googling my issues, save the last step, I don't recall seeing that posted anywhere and tried it on my own to finally get positive results. It ended up fully resolving the stand by drain of my battery.
Here are the settings and steps, followed by some battery results after some use.
Setting 1: Under Dev options, turn off "mobile data always active"
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Setting 2: Under Settings > Network & Internet, turn "Adaptive Connectivity" off. I have not noticed any issues with switching from WiFi to Mobile data, so I'm unsure how much help this setting actually is.
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Setting 3: Under Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs (T-Mobile in my case), change "Preferred Network Type" to "LTE"
It will say 5G recommended, and that should be selected by default.
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Optional, if you want to match me, change or confirm Wi-Fi calling to "Call over Wi-Fi", though I don't think this part matters.
Setting 4 (Final setting, and the part that actually saw the improvement to my battery)
In the same place as setting 3, Under Settings > Network & Internet > Carrier (T-Mobile in my case)
REMOVE the "Automatically Select Network" option, then ensure your carrier is selected under "Choose Network"
* I wondered if this would cause me issue during travel, and during easter weekend, driving 5 hours away to family, it caused me zero problems *
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Within the first few hours, then days, I saw MASSIVE improvements to my battery life vs what it was before with defaults.
Example 1: Throughout my work day I lost only 11%, whereas before I would easily be at 70% or less without hardly picking up the device. I check my phone for alerts, MFA codes, and maybe a few other notifications throughout the day. Not much screen on time. IMHO any new phone should only be losing 0.5-1% with the screen off per hour, and this is the first time this has been the case with my P6P.
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Example 2: Bed at 10pm, awake at 6:23am, and only lost 6%. I'd not thought this possible a week ago...
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And there you have it. I hope this helps someone facing issues with stand-by drain, and I know (like all issues with P6P), this is not affecting everyone it seems. I've been waiting since November for a fix, and this is the best I can get right now. LTE is plenty fast for me, and I'm on my home Gig internet WiFi nearly all the time anyway. I don't know that every single setting in this post is absolutely necessary, but its what is working for me.
I know there have been other posts, but I only saw them as a post of the issue, with an assortment of fixes throughout the threads. I wanted to post this as more of a resolution (well workaround) to an issue many of us know of.
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Thanks! Will try and see if I get any improvements.
Despite the battery I'm pretty happy with this phone.
Gerr1985 said:
Just turning off 5G didn't do much or anything for me. So weird how this issue hits people differently. Actually sounds like this issue may not have affected you at all, but you got some additional battery saving via the general 5G turn off.
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Almost like it has to do with your carier, data signal and how far you are from an antenna..
Anad it doesn't use 40% of your battery, it's used X% of Y% that has drained during the last 24 hours, so the less you use your phone the higher it will seem.
iRhyiku said:
Almost like it has to do with your carier, data signal and how far you are from an antenna..
Anad it doesn't use 40% of your battery, it's used X% of Y% that has drained during the last 24 hours, so the less you use your phone the higher it will seem.
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It could be carrier and radio for sure. I had maybe 1-2 bars at my parents' this past weekend, and still only lost 0.5-1% an hour with these fixes, so I'm not sure distance is a key factor in this case.
I know all about the % use variables, and its a bit confusing, which is why I didn't put any screenshots or data showing that in the OP. Focused on standby drain, and we all seem to get that its a primary result of some issues with the mobile network setup.
Morgrain said:
It's a simple logic (speaking for OP here, and other people with the same issues).
The manufacturer of this phone used an inefficient, old modem (something that 99% of the customer base was not aware of before buying the phone) that causes massive (battery) problems when actually utilizing this feature. And now humans are trying to find a middle ground, meaning keeping the phone but improving battery life, by disabling features that have little meaning in everyday life (5G is cosmetic at best, 4G is plenty for YouTube streaming or music streaming). I never had a situation in my life, where I thought "man, having 200 MB/s more connection speed now would be super important on my phone!"
People scroll the web, watch videos, watch twitter/tiktok whatever feeds and listen to music. For that 4G (and 4G+) is more then enough. 5G only really makes sense if you want to use it as a hotspot for a PC or laptop, and even then 5G is only truly useful when downloading or uploading bigger data files - a use case that most people probably do not have (most people have WiFi where they spend their everyday life).
So I do not understand, why you do not see that obvious logic?
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Regarding OP: The manually "Select Network" sounds like an interesting idea. I'm not sure why it would make a difference (since the phone should only ever select the carrier network anyway), but I'll give it a try and see how it works. Personally, my battery life experience ever since updating to the march update (and now April) has been abysmal. Where I- before - went to sleep with 20% left in the battery, I now need to top up, every day, around 2000. Meaning I lost about ~30% of battery life since updating to Android 12l (nothing else changed, my usecase is the same, SoT is the same, wifi/LTE ratio is still the same). Hopefully your trick/idea can make a difference. I've grown annoyed at carrying a power bank with me (again), something that I didn't have to do since I bought the phone in October (until march).
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A trick that also saves battery life (OP should put it in his text) is deactivating
Both settings can be found under location services. For a further battery life improvement, Google Location Accuracy can also be deactivated, even though I personally let the stay ON, since it makes a difference in GPS location, meaning if you turn it off, GPS becomes noticeably less accurate.
(my wifi scanning reactivated on it's own after march update, check yours!)
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I can already tell it's giving me better battery life, and I added to the OP this morning. Will anything stop working with this off? Guess I'll find out
Gerr1985 said:
Setting 2: Under Settings > Network & Internet, turn "Adaptive Connectivity" off. I have not noticed any issues with switching from WiFi to Mobile data, so I'm unsure how much help this setting actually is.
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Adaptive connectivity is advertised as minimizing 5G use when the system/ai determines it's not needed.
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Adaptive connectivity is a feature from adaptive connectivity services, which does more than 4g and 5g hand off. Based on the play store listing.
Like how adaptive charging is a feature from device health services app, which also does other things besides adaptive charging.
scott.hart.bti said:
You pay good money to get the latest greatest flagship and you disable one of the greatest benefits, 5g network capability. I don't get the logic.
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I don't need that speed, and, in my area, 4G LTE is faster anyway. We don't have any 5mm towers.
gen10 said:
Oddly enough I cant choose my network on Xfinity Mobile. Clicking the toggle brings me to the selection screen and selecting my carrier does nothing
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Same here.
It works! Thanks
scott.hart.bti said:
You pay good money to get the latest greatest flagship and you disable one of the greatest benefits, 5g network capability. I don't get the logic.
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Agreed as some of us don't even have access to that due to Google having it locked on our network
I get this long list of networks to choose from when I disable Automatically Select Network. So if I select LTE, does that mean that if I get to an area that doesn't have TMobile LTE coverage, that I will lose connectivity, even if that area has the other TMobile networks listed below?
Prey521 said:
I get this long list of networks to choose from when I disable Automatically Select Network. So if I select LTE, does that mean that if I get to an area that doesn't have TMobile LTE coverage, that I will lose connectivity, even if that area has the other TMobile networks listed below?
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Make sure you follow the other steps first as you shouldn't see 5G or 3G listed otherwise.
As for your main concern...
Honestly I'm not positive what will happen. However, I did a test run of this by driving from IL to my parents house in Indiana (almost Ohio, 5 hours) on Easter weekend. Lots of farm land and I only lost signal 2 times for less than a minute. This also happened before all of my changes, so no change in behavior for me. Most carriers are in the process of sunsetting 3g, so I'd imagine you'll be fine.
scott.hart.bti said:
You pay good money to get the latest greatest flagship and you disable one of the greatest benefits, 5g network capability. I don't get the logic.
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Ouch man... go easy now.
I don't want to have to turn it off, but Google needs to fix it first. 4G is still plenty fast for everything mobile, I'm not trying to run Internet for my whole house with it. That is about the best use case for 5g. I have zero problems streaming anything at full quality. I also am on my home WiFi 99% of the time so I could care less. I made a point to move along if turning off 5g is an issue, so thanks for following that instruction.
Gerr1985 said:
Setting 3: Under Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs (T-Mobile in my case), change "Preferred Network Type" to "LTE"
It will say 5G recommended, and that should be selected by default.
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Some of these options don't show up for some folks, myself included. I kept the two photos that I don't have access to on my phone. At one point I do remember having the option to "automatically select network," but now I don't.
I'm unsure why I can't choose my preferred network type, despite some custom roms giving this ability. I typically have to go into the phone dialer to change this option.
The steps you've outlined have been posted in numerous threads, albeit scattered lol. IMO having to do all these steps is unacceptable, and hope the new Pixel 7 resolves such issues.
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Some of these options don't show up for some folks, myself included. I kept the two photos that I don't have access to on my phone. At one point I do remember having the option to "automatically select network," but now I don't.
I'm unsure why I can't choose my preferred network type, despite some custom roms giving this ability. I typically have to go into the phone dialer to change this option.
The steps you've outlined have been posted in numerous threads, albeit scattered lol. IMO having to do all these steps is unacceptable, and hope the new Pixel 7 resolves such issues.
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Your carrier will lock some of these options.

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