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Help: Tilt 2 clock gets behind, displays incorrect time

I have a Tilt 2 from AT&T running Windows Mobile 6.5. I got it in October.
Sometimes my phone's clock will get behind, displaying a time that is an hour or more off. This morning, for example, I had the phone's alarm set for 9am. I woke up at 10am. When I looked at my phone, the clock displayed 8:30am. I power cycled it and it displayed the correct time.
My apartment has lousy cell reception, and I often have no signal at all when inside. Does this phone/OS rely on the cellular network to know what time it is?
Has anyone experienced similar behavior? Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
I don't think I can trust my phone to wake me up until I find a way to fix this.

Does this happens when syncing Rhodium with pc?
or it happens even without sync?

The phone does rely on the network to keep time updated.
You could always turn off the automatic updating of the time. That may help.
1. Go to: Settings > Personal > Phone > Time Zone
2. Uncheck: Automatic change time zone and clock.
See if that helps.

orb3000 said:
Does this happens when syncing Rhodium with pc?
or it happens even without sync?
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I don't sync my phone with PC, and I don't have any push notifications activated.
The phone does rely on the network to keep time updated.
prjkthack said:
You could always turn off the automatic updating of the time. That may help.
1. Go to: Settings > Personal > Phone > Time Zone
2. Uncheck: Automatic change time zone and clock.
See if that helps.
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Turned off auto-updates as you suggested. Now we wait and see. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Clock falls behind, can't find the automatic settings
For the second time now, I experienced the same problem, where my clock on the Tilt 2 was behind. This time it was during the night and it was off by about 3 hours, and even missed the date change. The first time it was something around an hour. I don't know what's worse, because with the long time you know it's wrong when it's light outside and the time says it shouldn't.
The phone wasn't hot either, so, as far as I know it wasn't busy doing something else. The cell reception was fine here, and I was not syncing. To correct the problem, I looked for the setting to automatically set the time, based on the network. It's not off by precisely one or more hours, so it doesn't look like a timezone itself. Note that I have TouchFlo disabled, and I use the Windows 6.5 Today screen, so it might be a bit different. I looked through several settings beside the clock, but can't find it. Unless it's one and the same of course.
Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for the powercycle tip.

I disabled what prjkthack said, I needed also to disable the sync option from Sense. This works for 'My Location' but screws other world clocks. Looks like a sort of 'base' clock is set wrong...

i have this issue with the tp and the hd2 both with energyrom.

att tilt 2 clock and date off when updated to new stock rom
hi iam having the same problems with my time and date being wrong everytime i softreset. the minutes usually always seem to be right but a couple hours off always and then you have to go in and manually set the clock. i also had to set the date when i softreset. i tried the my location button, didnt work. also called htc and talked to someone who said the time did have to be set manually, but i really dont think he knew what he was talking about. and it should have exact time from network and sat/gpr connections or even wifi? stange

Interesting. It appears that we might be fighting two different problems then. One that is a timezone offset (i.e. the minutes are the same, but the hours are off), and a full stall of the clock (with the time being off a random amount of hours and minutes).

clock advances one hour every night
Hi,
I have a similar problem with my clock: every night the clock advances one hour. If I do not correct the time, it will be two hours in advance after two nights.
This is since the night, where the daylight saving time ended.
Can anyone help?

I've had my phone over 6 months and two days ago it started having issues with keeping the correct time...
Odd indeed.
Maybe it's ATT causing the problem?

Go into Settings/Personal/Phone, then click the GSM/UTMS services tab. Click on "Time Synchronization", then Get Settings. If the "automatic change time zone & clock" box is checked, uncheck it.
That turns off the synchronization of the Tilt2's clock with the cell network, so that you can synch the time yourself. There are some third-party programs that will let you synch off a NTP server or the phone's GPS receiver -- I use Julien Schapman's Time Synchronizer.

It's not a att thing. I have the same problem since last week. I'm in Argentina and a couple of years ago we had daylight saving time. And the last year we had it we must change it on december 27th (the day it started to change in my phone in 2010. Now everytime i activesync with my pc it advaces 1 hour.
It's really annoying. And fyi my setting have disable automatic change timezone and clock!!
I don't know what to do
Cheers and happy new year
Ignacio

I'm in Argentina too, and having the same problem as Ignacio. The only thing I can add is that my Tilt2 started having this problem right after returning from Uruguay, which by the way, they are one hour ahead of us. My girlfriend has the same phone but she did not activate it while in Uruguay and she is not having this problem.
I really doubt it is just a Sync problem. I've tried every possible configuration and nothing. I wish it would be that simple.
We need a good chef for this one...
Regards
Fito

Offical fix: http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=1070&news_id=851
Or just install a ROM that doesn't have this issue (included this fix).

The time is not correct.

I have a stock ROM Tilt2 and I am loving it. The best phone yet. However, the clock has been off several times. It happened again today, it said 3:23 PM and it was actually 4:24 PM. I have a cab installed to stop the 1h 2m flip (if it matters). I have figured out that if I turn it to airplane mode and then back to phone, the time updates to the correct time.
Is anyone else having this same issue? And is it a problem with the phone or AT&T?

I've had the problem before. When I had the Touch Pro(Fuze) from at&t but unlocked for Tmobile. and when i first got my Touch Pro 2. i never really figured out what was wrong for the fuze but my tp2 stopped. I noticed it happening when I would unplugg my power that's when it would change time when I had my stock battery. When I changed it to the seidio battery it stopped happening. I don't think the battery has anything to do it but it might have just be a coincident.

torint said:
I don't think the battery has anything to do it but it might have just be a coincident.
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there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence...

On my case, every time I do a sync with my lap top it changes me the time, no matter what I disable or adjust on Rhodium...it always changes me to a different time zone...

orb3000 said:
On my case, every time I do a sync with my lap top it changes me the time, no matter what I disable or adjust on Rhodium...it always changes me to a different time zone...
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I could have sworn there was a setting in activesync somewhere that would let you disable the time sync with the host PC...but I'm digging now and I can't find it anywhere in the menus on the phone or on the PC client.
I wouldn't be surprised though if there's a switch for that in the registry somewhere, I'll see if I can find anything that looks related...don't hold your breath though

Also has happened to me...
I have a Tilt2 stock ROM, and have had this happen several times. In searching these (and other) forums, the only thing that I have seen that remotely resembles this issue is the time zone issue (which I must suffer from as well since my time zone is always reverting to Indiana..I live in Eastern).
The first DAY I got my phone I noticed this time issue, and I chalked it up to an incomplete charge up or something to that affect, however it happened a couple of other times. The time on the phone would be off by some major amount of time (several hours), and it was not just the hour that was off, but also the minutes (so it was not purely a time zone issue).
I could not find anything to MAKE it correct itself, so I manually changed the time to the correct it, but I have not found anything to address this issue. Luckily it only happens every so often, but I would love to find out why...

Happens to me. Hours and minutes off.
If its off by 8 hours, I know to just fix it. If its off by 20 minutes, I'm late to class.
There's an app in the software recommended thread. SynchroTime. It's your only fix. When you see the time is incorrect, run it and it fixes itself. I have no idea why the time isn't synced to Tmobile's servers, or even an option for that.

i have the same issue, on AT&T as well
I am having the same issue on an AT&T phone. I have been all over the phone looking for a place where you tell the phone to sync to network time, with no luck. My laptop was off by four minutes, as well as my phone, so i believe it is an issue with syncing to the laptop, but i would prefer it sync to at&t.
Any ideas?

The only time I have observed TP2 to be off by one or two hours, was after running a GPS program, that was wrongly configured. The GPS application caused also a time change.

sirphunkee said:
I could have sworn there was a setting in activesync somewhere that would let you disable the time sync with the host PC...but I'm digging now and I can't find it anywhere in the menus on the phone or on the PC client.
I wouldn't be surprised though if there's a switch for that in the registry somewhere, I'll see if I can find anything that looks related...don't hold your breath though
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Thanks mate
If you find something please let me know
Cheers,
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Yeap has happened to me too. I'm using the stock ROM and it happened many times in the past. Actually what I observed was that the manilla clock was wrong (hours and minutes), while the windows clock was running ok. I have no idea how that's even possible.
I could not find out however the pattern of the above. I'm sure it has to be a manila thing though, cuz now that i have it disabled and using SPB mobile shell I have no similar incidents. It would be nice to know the fix though.

orb3000 said:
Thanks mate
If you find something please let me know
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I don't know if this is going to help, but I found this thread while searching for ideas on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329080
Check it all out, but posts #7-9 in particular, that might be what you need, let me know if it helps in your case or not

hey guys.. i have this problem too. i have a sprint touch pro 2, and i installed energy rom this morning.
the clock is wrong because the time zone keeps changing to GMT when i live where it's supposed to be GMT +8
here's what i noticed:
1. for example, the exact time here is 8:30am, the phone always changes the time zone to GMT and using my local time, but the minutes are slightly off. (8:19am GMT) So when i change the time zone to +8, it becomes (4:19pm)
2. everytime i sync with my computer, the time corrects itself, and all i need to do on the phone is to change it to the correct time zone, and it's all fine.
3. the time becomes incorrect everytime i restart the phone, or turn flight mode off and back on.
4. when i remove the sim card and turn on the phone without the sim card, the time remains correct!
5. i concluded that it has something to do with the network. i went to settings->phone, and theres something there about time synchronization. unfortunately, i dont know why, but when i disable it on my energy rom, the time still updates.
6. i tried using the same sim on another windows mobile device. i turned on time sync on that device, and when i restarted the device, the time became incorrect also! but on this phone, when i turn off time sync, it obliges, unlike my touch pro 2.
7. the culprit here is the network. the phone syncs with the network's time, which is minutes early, and the time zone is set incorrectly.
why doesnt my touch pro 2 obey when i tell it not to sync time with the network?
i cant text because the time is messed up and the message gets lost in the recepient's mailbox.
i hope this gets resolved soon. i've been searching for a definite fix but i found none.

marvdmartian said:
hey guys.. i have this problem too. i have a sprint touch pro 2, and i installed energy rom this morning.
the clock is wrong because the time zone keeps changing to GMT when i live where it's supposed to be GMT +8
here's what i noticed:
1. for example, the exact time here is 8:30am, the phone always changes the time zone to GMT and using my local time, but the minutes are slightly off. (8:19am GMT) So when i change the time zone to +8, it becomes (4:19pm)
2. everytime i sync with my computer, the time corrects itself, and all i need to do on the phone is to change it to the correct time zone, and it's all fine.
3. the time becomes incorrect everytime i restart the phone, or turn flight mode off and back on.
4. when i remove the sim card and turn on the phone without the sim card, the time remains correct!
5. i concluded that it has something to do with the network. i went to settings->phone, and theres something there about time synchronization. unfortunately, i dont know why, but when i disable it on my energy rom, the time still updates.
6. i tried using the same sim on another windows mobile device. i turned on time sync on that device, and when i restarted the device, the time became incorrect also! but on this phone, when i turn off time sync, it obliges, unlike my touch pro 2.
7. the culprit here is the network. the phone syncs with the network's time, which is minutes early, and the time zone is set incorrectly.
why doesnt my touch pro 2 obey when i tell it not to sync time with the network?
i cant text because the time is messed up and the message gets lost in the recepient's mailbox.
i hope this gets resolved soon. i've been searching for a definite fix but i found none.
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marv, did you do a hard-reset right after installing that ROM? It's always a good practice, and a hard-reset is what ended up fixing this issue when it happened to me.

Found a solution that works for me
yup.. newly flashed rom.. and i hard reset a lot of times..
anyway.. i found a fix for it! i guess this is what many people around the forum are looking for. for some reason, the time synchronization setting in settings-phone doesnt seem to work.. i dont know why.. so i edited it through the registry..
go here:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
and anything that says time sync or time zone sync, i changed it to 0. all is well now. and i'm so happy i found a fix myself.

marvdmartian said:
yup.. newly flashed rom.. and i hard reset a lot of times..
anyway.. i found a fix for it! i guess this is what many people around the forum are looking for. for some reason, the time synchronization setting in settings-phone doesnt seem to work.. i dont know why.. so i edited it through the registry..
go here:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
and anything that says time sync or time zone sync, i changed it to 0. all is well now. and i'm so happy i found a fix myself.
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Great...I'm glad it worked for you. Thanks for sharing the solution!

now how do i tell everyone the solution? do i make a new hread? or will they just see this?..

marvdmartian said:
now how do i tell everyone the solution? do i make a new hread? or will they just see this?..
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Other than editing your post above to have a title like "Found a solution that works for me", that's all I know of. You could create a new post, but I would probably hold of on that until (if) you hear from other members that your method worked for them as well

oh alright..

this problem ocurs normally when you got your phone set to synchronize the time with your network,problem is that some network don't broadcast the right time sometimes.
you can disable it by looking in phone settings for network time tab and untick the box.
setting vary from from windows builds.
alternatively import the following reg setting to you registry;
HTML:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"NITZEnable"=dword:00000000

[Q] time is wrong on AFTV after Daylight Saving change?

Looks like my AFTV did not make it through the Daylight Saving change properly I've verified the time zone is correct, but the time itself is an hour behind now. Anyone else seen this, and hopefully have a fix?

I know you said that you picked the correct time zone, but you might want to check again. Mine was off so I went in to investigate. I found two time zones for my area MST and MDT. Didn't see that the first time when I set it up.

I'm at work right now so I can't check, but I'll bet that's exactly what it is. Thanks for the tip! A little surprising that in this day and age, the FireTV is unable to make that time change automatically.

Well, well, well.....this is interesting.
I just got home and had a look. When I go into the Time Zone setting on my FireTV, sure enough, you do have to manually set the time zone. Okay, no problem...I've been set to Atlantic Standard Time (GMT -4:00), so all I have to do is set it to Atlantic Daylight Time (GMT -3:00), and I'll be all set, right?
One problem--there's no listing for Atlantic Daylight Time, nor any other time zone that is GMT -3:00. In fact, the list of available time zones is far from being complete. It seems to only include time zones that are part of the USA and its territories/possessions, PLUS, strangely enough, GMT itself (which it describes as "London, Dublin") and GMT +1:00 (which it describes as "Amsterdam, Berlin").
Seems rather odd, no? In any case, it appears there is NO way to change the time manually, and no way to set it to be the correct time for my area of Canada. So...I guess I live with the time being an hour wrong for half the year?

There is a timezone utility on the market. It does not need root.

I've had a look around, and for the life of me I can't see what you're referring to. Do you happen to have a link you could pass along?
EDIT: Never mind, I must be blind. It's the TimeZoneChanger app, on the google play store. Works like a charm, thanks.

Ran across this to change zones using ADB/Settngs.db
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13883624/set-system-time-format-via-adb-shell

Date And Time on Fire TV

I just downloaded OS5 Preview. Does anyone know how Fire TV sinks its time and date? This is affecting Medihhh and Sling which require the correct time and date for the application. When I first updated it was stuck on August 2nd at 7:33AM PDT. I rebooted my Cable Modem and Router which at least got it to the correct date but even set to my correct Timezone PDT it is still running 3 hours slow?

I had to go into Time Zone in Settings and change it to the right time. and then reboot it. I think I might've even rebooted my router, I can't remember. I do know it was completely out of whack and took a while to sync properly.

setting the time via adb doesn’t work either

gpvelzen said:
setting the time via adb doesn’t work either
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Did you got into the Fire's settings and change the Time Zone?

yes I have, and rebooted multiple times, no result.. I decided to wait some time to let it sync.
Date on my Fire TV is 4 august 2015...

gpvelzen said:
yes I have, and rebooted multiple times, no result.. I decided to wait some time to let it sync.
Date on my Fire TV is 4 august 2015...
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Interesting: that's the date it says mine was updated.

I had to switch to wireless and check for a system update. Again this morning after coming out of sleep mode I had to repeat this step. Why would switching to wireless make any difference over wired? Strange!

strange - I have not problem on my FireTV stick and OS5 preview
date and time is always showing correct

Amazon fire stick won't let me change date or time

Have a 4K fire stick. Time and date cannot be changed manually as its way out of sync date by 9 days and time by 16 hours any idea on how to change it manually. Time zones are correct est.

why does my Head Unit loose timezone / Date & Time and country settings ?

since the last four weeks my head unit looses timezone / Date & Time and country settings!!
every time i reboot the device
The radio stations and other configurations don't get lost
Does someone know what causes this failure?
The wires for +12V Ground and so on are connected correctly
(MTCB-KLD6-V2.86 RK3188-eng4.4.4 ANDROID VERSION 4.4.4_29032016)
Greetings
Juergen

How is it setup? Do you update through GPS or do you manually?
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Nightwchtr said:
How is it setup? Do you update through GPS or do you manually?
Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk
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I update it manually.
I also tried the factory reset of the device.
But after i restarted the device the failure was the same

Another question is that did you update or install a custom ROM for it? If not I would suggest that as it might be outdated drivers may not be compatible. Basically its just like any other computer. Another suggestion would be to make sure the power connectors are tightly fitted if its not a plugplay.
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

I installed the latest custom Rom from Malaysk.
It worked perfect for about 3 months
all power connectors are tightly fitted!

Same thing happened to me.

the only thing i can imagine how such problems can occur is a RAM problem
If the memory of the RAM loses it's information over a longer time period than we really have a big problem
I had an USB stick with this problem a longer time ago. In this case you can throw away the hardware!
The short solution is to delete all data and update the MCU
afterwards the bug is fixed and everything works fine again.
THE QUESTION IS ONLY----- HOW LONG??

brownstein72 said:
Same thing happened to me.
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How long did you use your device until it happened?

quite a while, year maybe. but i think the time messed up in december as well. I just messed with the settings so hopefully it is fixed.

Hi brownstein72 i could not find out how i can fix this problem in the settings. I tried everything what is configurable with time and date. But nothing worked. If you found a solution please give me a feedback. Greetings

Can't figure it out either. It seems to always revert to Moscow timezone, no matter what I do. I have even disabled all automatic date/time settings. As well, my bluetooth stopped auto-connecting to my phone around the same time. Strange, I have not changed anything, a bug with something to do with new year maybe? I rely on the auto connect for having tasker start the wifi hotspot... I am not on the latest Malaysk, I may update but don't want to, I had it all set up the way I like it.
Edit: This time problem also screws up the auto-dimming feature.

That's the same behaviour like on my machine. What i can say... it has nothing to do with the new year. I had this failure in the middle of december. The only way to get it running again is to wipe all data ;-(

djprojekt said:
That's the same behaviour like on my machine. What i can say... it has nothing to do with the new year. I had this failure in the middle of december. The only way to get it running again is to wipe all data ;-(
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I think I will update later today then, I see a new firmware from Malaysk was just released today.

On my unit the automatic time/zone according to GPS never worked.
The home time zone is grayed out and cannot be changed. First, on original soft and then on DSA's and original 2.97 MCU I had the home time zone set to Hong Kong.
A few days ago I updated soft to Booroondook's 5.1.1 + MCU to 2.98.
Home time zone is still grayed out, but now it's Moscow.
In both cases, time and zone never changed according to GPS (to Polish time, Eastern Europe, GMT+1). It was always the home time zone's time (Hong Kong something like GMT +12, Moscow: GMT+3). It's much better for me to have Moscow as a home time zone than Hong Kong, but still it's useless and I got to set the time manually. A complete fail with such a trivial and basic feature.
Anybody knows how to change the home time zone? Apparently it's a matter of either ROM or MCU (ROM probably, since Booroondook is located in Moscow, I suppose).

Hi ttoton, it's like i wrote last time.
The only possibility to fix this problem is to wipe all data and install the whole system new.
I did it last month and now everything works find.
I hope this bug will never occur

ttoton said:
On my unit the automatic time/zone according to GPS never worked.
The home time zone is grayed out and cannot be changed. First, on original soft and then on DSA's and original 2.97 MCU I had the home time zone set to Hong Kong.
A few days ago I updated soft to Booroondook's 5.1.1 + MCU to 2.98.
Home time zone is still grayed out, but now it's Moscow.
In both cases, time and zone never changed according to GPS (to Polish time, Eastern Europe, GMT+1). It was always the home time zone's time (Hong Kong something like GMT +12, Moscow: GMT+3). It's much better for me to have Moscow as a home time zone than Hong Kong, but still it's useless and I got to set the time manually. A complete fail with such a trivial and basic feature.
Anybody knows how to change the home time zone? Apparently it's a matter of either ROM or MCU (ROM probably, since Booroondook is located in Moscow, I suppose).
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If you are root, check into the file build.prop in there you should see a line that looks like: persist.sys.timezone=Europe/Moscow
Modify that to whatever your android timezone is. That should do the trick. It worked for me.
I had the same problem as you, my time was always off. It basically remembers when the unit was shutoff . Than it took 10-20minutes for the right time to be updated (via GPS). I kinda solved it by changing the timezone line in build.prop .... and by forcing the GPS to update faster via an automation (app) script that wait for the car to boot and than automatically forces a GPS update by disabling the GPS than re-enabling it 3 seconds after. Now my time gets updated in 1min instead of 10+minutes. Something is up with the unit for sure but this is the best way I found it to make it work for me.

riccobonito said:
If you are root, check into the file build.prop in there you should see a line that looks like: persist.sys.timezone=Europe/Moscow
Modify that to whatever your android timezone is. That should do the trick. It worked for me.
I had the same problem as you, my time was always off. It basically remembers when the unit was shutoff . Than it took 10-20minutes for the right time to be updated (via GPS). I kinda solved it by changing the timezone line in build.prop .... and by forcing the GPS to update faster via an automation (app) script that wait for the car to boot and than automatically forces a GPS update by disabling the GPS than re-enabling it 3 seconds after. Now my time gets updated in 1min instead of 10+minutes. Something is up with the unit for sure but this is the best way I found it to make it work for me.
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Thanks a lot, I will try this later today. I do have root, of course, with Booroondook's ROM.

riccobonito said:
If you are root, check into the file build.prop in there you should see a line that looks like: persist.sys.timezone=Europe/Moscow
Modify that to whatever your android timezone is. That should do the trick. It worked for me.
I had the same problem as you, my time was always off. It basically remembers when the unit was shutoff . Than it took 10-20minutes for the right time to be updated (via GPS). I kinda solved it by changing the timezone line in build.prop .... and by forcing the GPS to update faster via an automation (app) script that wait for the car to boot and than automatically forces a GPS update by disabling the GPS than re-enabling it 3 seconds after. Now my time gets updated in 1min instead of 10+minutes. Something is up with the unit for sure but this is the best way I found it to make it work for me.
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I did what you suggested. I found 3 files named build.prop in the system folder, so I made the change in every one of them. Changed the timezone to Europe/Warsaw.
Works like a charm, at last proper time with auto GPS time option. Updated the time within a second. Many Thanks again!