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So far today, my Evo has reset itself about 4 times. That is within the past hour and a half. I've had it since Monday and had no other issues with it doing this until today. The only app that was added in the past 24hrs was the Wireless Tether for Root app. I don't know what or why this is happening. I've just uninstalled Unrevoked, Superuser Permissions, the Overclock Widget, and the Wireless Tether to see if that is causing the issues. Anyone else have anything similar to this happening?
Also, I changed the "always on mobile data" setting to off yesterday. That increased my battery life dramatically. I was able to leave the phone on for a solid 11hrs with it still having 60% charge left. Then today, before I changed any settings at all, unplugging the phone from the charger for about 2hrs has resulted me in being down to 45% battery. Could mobile data always on being off cause the rebooting issue?
Same thing was happening to me when I unchecked that. Checked it back and all rebooting issues went away.
admorris said:
Same thing was happening to me when I unchecked that. Checked it back and all rebooting issues went away.
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Since I posted that message I had two more reboots. Just ticked always on mobile data back on and am waiting to see if that stops it...
EDIT: No more reboots since reenabling mobile data always on...weird
I've had the always on data feature turned off since day one to conserve battery life and i had not experienced the random shut offs until yesterday. Since yesterday however my phone has restarted itself no less than 20 times. Several times while I was sleeping so this is defiantly a real problem but I dont think its related to settings. ill be contacting HTC tonight
I have had always data off, ticked it on this morn. And started getting the reset issue...
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Random restarts are often indicative of the battery not sitting in properly.
Remove the battery. Scratch up the contacts. Insert back firmly...
I am also having this same issue. I turned my phone off this morning because i wouldn't be using it and then i turned it back on in the afternoon and then my phone just started randomly restarting itself. There is no rhyme or reason to it. It has just been happening all by itself. It has probably happened 10 times in the last 4.5 hours.
I took the battery out for a minute and put it back in to see if it will stop the issue, but i'll have to wait and see. However, when i did turn the phone back on i got a weird pop-up message on the main screen that said something to the effect of, "Operational failure, please use su command." Then it faded away. Anyone know what that means?
As mentioned above, turning always-on mobile back on, took care of my restart issue.
heed316 said:
So far today, my Evo has reset itself about 4 times. That is within the past hour and a half. I've had it since Monday and had no other issues with it doing this until today. The only app that was added in the past 24hrs was the Wireless Tether for Root app. I don't know what or why this is happening. I've just uninstalled Unrevoked, Superuser Permissions, the Overclock Widget, and the Wireless Tether to see if that is causing the issues. Anyone else have anything similar to this happening?
Also, I changed the "always on mobile data" setting to off yesterday. That increased my battery life dramatically. I was able to leave the phone on for a solid 11hrs with it still having 60% charge left. Then today, before I changed any settings at all, unplugging the phone from the charger for about 2hrs has resulted me in being down to 45% battery. Could mobile data always on being off cause the rebooting issue?
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I'm getting the same issue. At first i thought it was ATK, so i uninstalled that. Then I though it was lookout, so I disabled that. But it still keeps happening. I have mobile data off too, but for days, and it hasn't affected it one way or the other.
The odd thing is, I was running xiiLive Lite last night streaming the radio all night, and my phone stayed up the whole time, while plugged in (at least 8 hours).
I don't know what the deal is, but my phone goes about 24-48 hours without a spontaneous reboot, and then it will start doing it 4-6 times a day. Anyone have a good logging tool would be nice, as I'm somewhat new to Android.
Thanks!
Tigger
tigger2u said:
I'm getting the same issue. At first i thought it was ATK, so i uninstalled that. Then I though it was lookout, so I disabled that. But it still keeps happening. I have mobile data off too, but for days, and it hasn't affected it one way or the other.
The odd thing is, I was running xiiLive Lite last night streaming the radio all night, and my phone stayed up the whole time, while plugged in (at least 8 hours).
I don't know what the deal is, but my phone goes about 24-48 hours without a spontaneous reboot, and then it will start doing it 4-6 times a day. Anyone have a good logging tool would be nice, as I'm somewhat new to Android.
Thanks!
Tigger
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I had mobile data off for a few days with no reset issues. Then I installed a few apps from the market (not the ones you mentioned) and then the resets started. I uninstalled the newest apps but the resets kept happening. Then I turned mobile data back on and no more resets in the last 24 hours.
my evo is randomly rebooting and I never modified the settings that some of you are talking about. My also gives me random issues where when i try to open an app it will open for a split second and close? I am also having my phone lock up on me several times a day and i have to pull the battery to reboot it! I took it back to the sprint store and they insisted on reloading the software on the phone and it made no difference.... does anyone have any suggestions or similar issues?
rooder said:
my evo is randomly rebooting and I never modified the settings that some of you are talking about. My also gives me random issues where when i try to open an app it will open for a split second and close? I am also having my phone lock up on me several times a day and i have to pull the battery to reboot it! I took it back to the sprint store and they insisted on reloading the software on the phone and it made no difference.... does anyone have any suggestions or similar issues?
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I had the apps closing after a split sec too but I found out that it was for apps that didn't play nice with the snapdragon cpu; like the Gameloft game Nova and a few of their other titles.
for me its stock apps like the navigator, video player etc. I am thinking i might have a defective unit.
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for me its stock apps like the navigator, video player etc. I am thinking i might have a defective unit.
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Yup! That does sound strange! Did you root your phone? I'm rooted and all the stock apps that I've tried, seem to open and work fine.
nope! not rooted, 100% how it was out of the box. Luckily my pre was still active so i video taped it freezing up and stuff so im going to show the tech at the sprint store so hopefully they can order my replacement.
I also have a fully stock phone, some apps installed, but none recently, and yesterday it rebooted itself, twice more today.
I haven't changed the settings mentioned earlier, and haven't done anything I can think of that would cause the rebooting.
I am also having issues where I can't get an IP address on my wireless network, but I'm not sure it's related. I just noticed these 2 problems in the last 2 days, and it's the only thing I can think of that's out of the ordinary from the weeks prior to this happening.
I think I'll take it to Sprint tomorrow and see what they have to say.
Keep us updated on what happens. It seems to take a day or two for symptoms to start, but when they do it goes crazy rebooting!
...more discussion on this issue has been going on here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702379
I'm not a professional android user and don't know much about it yet, but mine's rebooted a few times as well. I haven't rooted my phone but the ONE thing that seemed to have resolved the continuing issue is doing a hard reboot:
Menu > Settings > Privacy > Factory data reset
It's been 4 days and hasn't rebooted since.
EDIT: It's been 6 days now and still no reboots.
Angry Apps Eating my RAM!
I think what everyone is missing here that maybe the root of the problem is low memory.
I'm not talking about storage on the SD card. I"m talking about the memory the OS has to run.
I've fought long and hard with this low memory problem seeing as I have owned a g1 for almost 2 years.
THERE IS NO REASON THE EVO SHOULD EVER GET DOWN TO UNDER 30MB OF SYSTEM RAM!
I equate this issue to the same issue many people had with Windows computers and applications that start up in the system tray! We don't need most apps to run in the back ground on start up just in case I want to use it. The few seconds of time it shaves off of starting up the app is not worth the slower OS boot up (applies to Windows mainly) or the major slow downs they cause the OS's to have.
I don't need Sprint TV running on boot!
When I used a clean slate scene I still have all of these same issues. Random reboots, slow OS and apps, ect.
I have no idea why Android would allow that much RAM to be used for background apps. I don't understand why we have no way to see what programs run on boot unless using a 3rd party app.
Most apps are so crappy that they run in the background all the time and have no way to toggle if they run on boot and I'm not talking about apps that modify something all the time I"m talking about apps that ONLY need to be running once you open them. An example would be Swipe, I understand the need for that app to run on boot. It modifies the OS keyboard and would need to be running in order to work correctly when ever you enter any text field that pops up the keyboard for input.
An example of programs that don't need to be running on boot or should at least give you an option to toggle boot start up are; Sprint Navigation, Sprint Updater (No idea what this is for), Updater (Android?), Sprint Zone, doubletwist, SprintTV Widget (I'm on the clean slate profile with NO Widgets), VoiceMail (I use Google Voice, is this needed?), Sprint Football Live (It's not even Football season!), MP3 Store (I have yet to use on the EVO but is running just in case, thx), as well as many others.
I have 35 apps running in the back ground! WTF? Thanks ****ty app devs and bloatware Sprint!
Have fun try to find options for each app and figuring out each service to know what it's tied to so that you can have a phone that it powerful and run smoothly.
It really shouldn't be this hard or as much of a pain...
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I think what everyone is missing here that maybe the root of the problem is low memory.
I'm not talking about storage on the SD card. I"m talking about the memory the OS has to run.
I've fought long and hard with this low memory problem seeing as I have owned a g1 for almost 2 years.
THERE IS NO REASON THE EVO SHOULD EVER GET DOWN TO UNDER 30MB OF SYSTEM RAM!
I equate this issue to the same issue many people had with Windows computers and applications that start up in the system tray! We don't need most apps to run in the back ground on start up just in case I want to use it. The few seconds of time it shaves off of starting up the app is not worth the slower OS boot up (applies to Windows mainly) or the major slow downs they cause the OS's to have.
I don't need Sprint TV running on boot!
When I used a clean slate scene I still have all of these same issues. Random reboots, slow OS and apps, ect.
I have no idea why Android would allow that much RAM to be used for background apps. I don't understand why we have no way to see what programs run on boot unless using a 3rd party app.
Most apps are so crappy that they run in the background all the time and have no way to toggle if they run on boot and I'm not talking about apps that modify something all the time I"m talking about apps that ONLY need to be running once you open them. An example would be Swipe, I understand the need for that app to run on boot. It modifies the OS keyboard and would need to be running in order to work correctly when ever you enter any text field that pops up the keyboard for input.
An example of programs that don't need to be running on boot or should at least give you an option to toggle boot start up are; Sprint Navigation, Sprint Updater (No idea what this is for), Updater (Android?), Sprint Zone, doubletwist, SprintTV Widget (I'm on the clean slate profile with NO Widgets), VoiceMail (I use Google Voice, is this needed?), Sprint Football Live (It's not even Football season!), MP3 Store (I have yet to use on the EVO but is running just in case, thx), as well as many others.
I have 35 apps running in the back ground! WTF? Thanks ****ty app devs and bloatware Sprint!
Have fun try to find options for each app and figuring out each service to know what it's tied to so that you can have a phone that it powerful and run smoothly.
It really shouldn't be this hard or as much of a pain...
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This is where I am so lost with Android. I read many blogs saying Android does not need a task killer and using one will only make your system slow down. Well I tried one anyway because it's in my Windows Mobile nature to do so (old habits....). I noticed that I too had 35 or so apps running in the background and I thought that doesn't sound good, I wanna kill them all. But then what Android pros keep telling me is to let them be and that the OS will kill them as needed. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the OS doesn't always do a good enough job. So my confusion and learning process of Android continues......
I have a problem where, I am in a conversation in Whatsapp, and i am done writing a message, and then i lock the screen, and when i unlock it maybe 15 seconds later, i type, but nothing is showing up, its just records what i press but doesn't type. I have to go the the main screen, and reopen Whatsapp to get it working again...
Anyone else notice this?
Its really annoying if you are in an intense conversation and have to act fast
ROM: Codename Android 1.5.5
Kernel: FrancoKernel Milestone 2
I have wiped everything 1000x times and reinstalled everything. Found some people who had the same issue, but no one found a solution.
Thanks XDA,
David
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I have a problem where, I am in a conversation in Whatsapp, and i am done writing a message, and then i lock the screen, and when i unlock it maybe 15 seconds later, i type, but nothing is showing up, its just records what i press but doesn't type. I have to go the the main screen, and reopen Whatsapp to get it working again...
Anyone else notice this?
Its really annoying if you are in an intense conversation and have to act fast
ROM: Codename Android 1.5.5
Kernel: FrancoKernel Milestone 2
I have wiped everything 1000x times and reinstalled everything. Found some people who had the same issue, but no one found a solution.
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David
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Happens sometimes to me too and I am rooted on stock. Pretty sure it has nothing to do with us and everything to do with whatsapp having an ICS bug.
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Whatsapp used to have exact same problem on my Nokia 5800XM too, I think it happens because of Whatsapp.
confirmed this happening occasionally on LG optimus one.
therefore, it is definitely because of the whatsapp app itself
usually i just press back button for once, back to conversation list and go back to my conversation. typing works back so you dont need to go homescreen thats two steps back
Confirmed bug for me too
Galaxy Nexus GSM
AOKP M4
Franco M2
To everyone who replied, thank you! Makes my life easier knowing its not ROM/Kernel etc...
Filed a complain to Whatsapp, such a great app apart from this bug!
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confirmed this happening occasionally on LG optimus one.
therefore, it is definitely because of the whatsapp app itself
usually i just press back button for once, back to conversation list and go back to my conversation. typing works back so you dont need to go homescreen thats two steps back
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I usually press home button and then my Whatsapp icon on my main screen, usually goes fast, but still... rather annoying
How deep would this 'error' lie? Could devs fix it?
I get this exact same problem with Handcent! Currently using Swype, and like 30% of the time I will have to go back to the conversation list and re-select my conversation to start typing again.
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Quick question, is everyone using NovaLauncher too? It sometimes happen with normal SMS as well. But 95% of the time it is Whatsapp
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Quick question, is everyone using NovaLauncher too? It sometimes happen with normal SMS as well. But 95% of the time it is Whatsapp
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I am also using Nova, but I'm not sure why that would affect other apps like this.
Any solution to this problem?
Got the very same at my galaxy s6, too. Android 5.1.1
I'd also like to know if there's any workarounds for this. My wife's having the issue and she's blaming me. :silly:
I may have a workaround. I have the galaxy note 3 and i use a custom rom thats pretty much close to stock and I notice that if I lock the device and unlock shortly after, I can't type anywhere, on kik, what'sapp, gosms pro, even google search. So I've just decided to test things out and see what's going on and here is what I found....
Eventually I can type again if I simply wait, but no one likes to wait but this is the longest solution.
Clearing the RAM using built in cleaner or 3rd party memory cleaner seems to allow me to type again.
I didnt like playing the guessing game in knowing how long to wait before I can type again so in kik or go sms pro, I would type one of the native apps' emoticon and then hold the backspace button down until it erases it...then I knew it was ready to let me type again (I have haptic feedback on for keyboard presses so I can look away as I hold down the backspace button - this would let me know when it eventually erased due to the haptic feedback of the smiley getting deleted).
Since the issue occurred only after unlocking, I tried turning off the lock screen completely and turning off phone and back on again....keyboard types right away with no issues!
Its more secure to have a lock screen on the phone so turning off lock screen isn't the best option unless you're like me and are the only person at home with no worries of someone else taking your phone so I decided to try something else that seemed to solve the issue, and that is..............turning off "Multiple Widgets" in lock screen.....tested and worked! I can totally type again right away after unlocking the lockscreen shortly after locking it.
This is what worked for me and for you developers out there....if you can use this to pinpoint why this happens on android, perhaps you can use this information to rectify it.
Hope I helped!!!
This discussion started in this development thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623430
First off there are 2 different issues related to app hangs.
1) An issue with root apps hanging. This has been fixed with an updated superuser (@wraithdu v3.1) and Busybox (@wraithdu v1.19.4). This is not the issue being discussed in this thread.
2) An issue with non-root apps failing to launch. This includes random apps failing to launch from the app drawer and home screens (of various launchers, TW, Apex, GO, Nova). This includes the Phone app opening and displaying mostly a black screen. Existing apps that are open in the background still function and can be opened.
Issue #2 has been seen since Darkside released the first ICS ROMs. Specifically I have reproduced it in Evolution.3 Beta03, v1, v2, v4, v5.
Here are some of the relevant posts in chronological order:
Here is the first report that I found via search:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26006665&highlight=app+hang#post26006665
expl0it4 said:
The launcher freezing and apps not opening along with su not granting permissions and/or freezing have been my only complaints. I'm running aokp now but really want to come back but I can't stand rebooting once or twice a day because of these lockups.
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Another report with little info:
dajakil said:
Is anyone else having an issue that every once in a while, all the apps stop working and/or the apex launcher hangs? This has been common for me at least once a day...if so, how can i fix it? I'm new here so please go easy
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I posted here thinking that I might have fixed it (turned out I spoke too soon):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26170760&highlight=app+hang#post26170760
Another update from me:
Splaktar said:
Got a couple lock ups, hangs, reboots, etc tonight while on wifi. Was either using Go Launcher to open Gmail or posting in Facebook app with SwiftKey X. Reboot resolved the issue and I could not reproduce.
I was just about to install this on the wife's phone, but can't really make it through 2 days without a forced reboot or freeze. Hopefully TMO gives us another leak or the real thing soon.
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And another:
Splaktar said:
I'm still needing to reboot at least once per 48 hours due to apps hanging or not starting.
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A good post with some helpful information:
PrjmeTjme said:
I too am experiencing the unresponsiveness. I'll be using it and then all of a sudden nothing works and I have to reboot. I didn't do a Darkside Super Cache Wipe prior to installing and I think the rom does a Darkside Super Wipe for you before it installs itself.
BTW, I wasn't closing any apps via task manager and I only restored DATA to the apps that automatically downloaded from the Play Store. Not really sure if that matters at all or not in the issue of unresponsiveness.
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Reports from v4 start coming in:
safeplayer22 said:
Ok, running ADW launcher and was running fine until this morning. It seems like it happens if you leave the phone untouched for a certain period of time (overnight). Then the touch to launch an app becomes unresponsive.
I am not using TW because I would need to re-do the whole home screen setting if I ever update to another version. btw, i'm running V4 right now and so far no other problems.
Edit: just got a reboot hang even after using the darkside wipe.
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The first suggestion that this is likely an app problem and that the ROM is fine:
pyraxiate said:
Using Apex here. Installed and running since release with zero issues. When I was on v2, I had this happen while using apex, and narrowed it down to an application hanging. Once I was finally able to get into settings and forced closed it, the launcher began working properly again. The only way I was able to get into settings was by having it up prior to the hanging, and held the home button to bring up task manager. Give that a shot and let us know.
I don't use TI , scripts, or change cpu settings. Always a 2x darkside wipe, flash, wait 10 minutes, then set up from scratch. Battery life is excellent ( 4 + hours screen on time ). Everyone with all these problems really should just run this ROM Naked.... its beautiful
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A response to this being an app issue:
safeplayer22 said:
Had to pull the battery went into recovery to wipe caches and fix permissions again. Now it's running good again. I'll try to FC in the task manager next time I get an unresponsive screen. I think you are right about an unresponsive app causing the unresponsive screen because it was working fine. the only thing I did prior to the screen hanging was turning of wifi tethering from the toggles.
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A claim that widgets that need root might be causing this. The only root needing widget that I use is Multi-mount lite and it has been enabled/installed during every app launch hang that I've seen.
pyraxiate said:
I think it might be an issue with the half root TDJ was taking about. I've noticed certain Widgets require root to be added to the homescreen. Maybe the widget is hanging because of improper permissions? Come to think of it, I was trying a wifi sharing toggle which caused my hangup
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Another report with very little information:
hpaulus said:
TDJ sometimes when i touch some app to open it.... Dont response and hang i have to restart....for the next build.....
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A response with a supposed quote that I don't see in the thread. I also late went on to test this and verify that this occurs even if you do not restore a single piece of data.
darkness122 said:
I believe he said this happens when you use a task killer or restored an app w data from GB
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I finally start attacking the issue scientifically:
Splaktar said:
Happened to me with Darkside beta03, v1, and v2 running Apex Launcher and Go Launcher EX.
I just flashed Darkside v4 and I'm in the middle of re-installing all apps and re-adding every account and configuration manually. Previous flashes involved restoring user apps w/ data so I'm trying to figure out if that has something to do with it.
Recovery is CWM 5.0.2.7 non-Touch as recommended in OP. Also I used none of the wiping options in the recovery and let the wipe scripts do it all.
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TDJ asks me to report back on my findings:
thederekjay said:
thanks. please report back and also what recovery are you using?
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I start working on repeatable reproduction steps for the issue:
Splaktar said:
CWM 5.0.2.7 non-Touch recovery as recommended in the OP. I let the super wipe script do all of the wiping and don't wipe with CWM.
OK, I just hit this with a fresh v4 install. Absolutely no data has been restored to my device from backups. I did let Google restore apps and I went into a number of them to login/configure.
Here are the steps leading up to hitting it and (whether or not they have been involved in previous reproductions):
0) Connect to WiFi. WiFi-Calling enabled. (always)
1) Play some music via Google Music or some other streaming source. (always)
2) Stream the music over BT (most always)
3) Have the phone plugged into USB charging on a desktop w/ usb storage off (most always)
4) Browse around my home screens which contain about 13 widgets on 8 screens (always)
5) Add remove and re-add widgets to a screen (sometimes)
6) Launch a previously unopened app (since reboot) from a shortcut on one of the home screens or from the app drawer (always)
7) Re-use an app that has recently been opened (always)
It is not as if following these steps one by one will reproduce this within 5 minutes. But this clean install lasted me only 1 hour 5 minutes before this app launch hang occurred.
This last reproduction I had just restarted my Launcher (Go Launcher EX) and was in the middle of re-adding a widget, but when I clicked on the widgets icon to open the list, nothing happened. So I gave up on that and backed out.
Then I opened an app on one of my home screens and it highlighted, but did not launch or open. Then I went to try some other apps with the same result. I also tried some in the app drawer, same result.
So then I long pressed home and selected an already open app. It came up just fine. I was able to use the app and then finally go back Home without any issues.
I also got the task manager open. I'm at 667/769 MB RAM. System storage is at 0.93 GB / 1.97 GB. USB and SD card storage are not close to full either. There is only one active app (the one that I just had opened). I did 'Exit All' and then closed task manager and tried to open an app. Same hang.
Try to access settings via widgets, nothing. Try to do Menu->Settings, nothing.
Try to open another hanging app, highlights, then nothing. Wait 5 minutes or so and the app, sort of opens... I get the title bar at top and the rest of the app is all black. Wait 5 more minutes, nothing changes. Can't go back to get out of it. But home takes me back to the home screen.
Open Phone app, it opens, but the back button from the app lags and does nothing, then finally instead of taking me back home, it takes me the last hung app w/ just the title and black screen.
Home again takes me out and back to the home screen. Menu works, so I do Restart of the Launcher. This results in the wallpaper displaying but the launcher does not ever redraw the screens (hung). Only the notification bar works at this point.
I guess I'll try to grab a logcat now since it's basically completely hosed now... no luck with a logcat. Can't get the device to show up in adb. Maybe USB debugging is still off since this is a completely fresh install w/o any data restored.
Edit: Rebooted, USB Debugging was turned on, but I guess it just couldn't launch it when it was connected. Device shows up fine now in adb.
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A theory about Busybox contributing to the issue emerges:
pyraxiate said:
I did notice something odd. Why are we using busybox for CM9? I know CM9 uses a different kernel layout. Could that be causing an issue ?
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I look into it:
Splaktar said:
Interesting find. I just upgraded my BusyBox to 1.20.1-Stericson. I will report back if I run into the app launching hang with this BusyBox. I did a full darkside cache wipe and reboot after upgrading just to try and make sure that everything would play nicely together.
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I report back on the status and respond to another theory that Superuser has something to do with the app launch hangs. I later reproduce the hangs on this same version that made it over 18 hours.
Splaktar said:
I had the same issues with v1 and beta03! apps would not launch, etc.
So Super SU fixes this or just the latest binary of Superuser? I'm currently running Superuser with su binary of v3.0.3.2.
I'm going on 18 hours without an app launch issue/reboot now that I have the new Busybox (1.20.1-Stericson). But I've made it this far before only to have apps hang after 22 hours or so. I'll be convinced once it makes it 5 days.
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A good point is brought up about the lack of ALPHA kernel being in the OP subject line and that app launch hangs are not listed in the known issues section even after 10+ reports by users:
thatlaoboi said:
I don't like stock though... And I really, REALLY like TDJ's work. But it just gets irritating sometimes. But just curious, why is not marked in the title that is using an alpha kernel. I mean, I know that it says in the changelog thingy, but that isn't really making it known. And maybe the reason why it been posted several times is that people don't want to/have the time to read through 600 pages of posts. And it isn't listed in the known problems, there it only says "Reboot/Shutdown Hangs", that's it. Nothing on no being able to open apps.
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Reports start coming in about the issue happening in v5:
rfail1988 said:
I just got the app opening freeze/hang on v5 now :-(
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I report on my testing in v5 and post a set of fairly quickly reproducible steps:
Splaktar said:
I'm still seeing the app launch hangs in v5. I had been running for almost 48 hours (my best yet) on v4 after upgrading to Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and staying with Superuser and the su binary v3.0.3.2. I only stopped using that to upgrade to v5 this morning.
I tried v5 using just the Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson along with SU binary v3.1 and still had a hang.
I also tried v5 with Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and Superuser with the su binary v3.0.3.2 and still had a hang.
I've been able to reproduce the problem fairly quickly by opening a lot of apps and processes that run in the background. After about 15 minutes, I can get it down to 90-150 MB of free RAM. Then turn off the screen and let the phone idle for about 10 minutes. Then within a bit more usage it will finally hang.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm trying to at least do what I can to get this figured out. I'm nandroid'ing my v5 install now and going back to my last v4 that ran for almost 48 hours to see if that was a fluke and if I can get it to hang on app launching.
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I throw out the theory that this is an issue with the stock/ROM kernel:
Splaktar said:
The goal is to get to the bottom of this issue and verify that a fix to the problem was successful or not. The goal is to eliminate all app launch hangs from this ROM.
I'm starting to think that it may be an issue with ICS or at least Samsung's version of it for the T989.
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I report back on my 100% clean v4 install and how it still hung. I talk about how the RAM is handled and that I don't ever seem to run out of RAM. The OS is freeing RAM from old apps and keeping my free RAM over 90 MBs all of the time. Also suggest that I will try to reproduce the issue on the stock rooted ROM.
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Just got done nandroid'ing back to my v4 w/ Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and Superuser and the su binary v3.0.3.2. I performed the same repro steps (it isn't anything close to trying to kill it) by just opening up some apps. Then letting the phone rest 10 minutes. Then opening up a few more apps. It still hung, so that combination of factors didn't fix anything and I was just lucky to get almost 48 hours out of it without a reboot.
I guess the next step it to load up Mr. X's stock ROM and see if I can reproduce the issue with the same steps there. It is nice to be able to reproduce it in 30 minutes now and not need to wait 6-40 hours for it to 'just happen'.
I'm really starting to think that it is an issue with Samsung/TMO's code. I did count the number of apps in ICS's task history view. It was 19. I'm not sure if 19 or 20 is the limit? It might be an issue with how that feature is implemented.
It doesn't seem to be a RAM issue because I am seeing Android clear up more RAM every time I get down below 100 MBs free and open a new app.
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A question about task killers and a claim that it might help manage the issue:
sinfulgray said:
Anyone that has app and/or launcher hangs do you ever clear your ram with the built in task manager? Are you leaving all your background app running? I'm a little ocd when it comes to my phone so I'm always clearing background apps and freeing up my ram. Just a thought
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I don't clear / kill any apps or use a task killer.
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A confirmation that you can't open the Task Manager unless it is already running (and hasn't been freed) if you see app launch hangs:
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I can't even get into the task manager, I click on "Task Manager" and it just doesn't open, just like every other app.
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OK, there might have been some posts missed that didn't include "app" or "hang" but that it all that I've gathered up for now.
Added a post to redirect people with this issue to this new thread:
Splaktar said:
I've created a thread to investigate/debug the app launch hang issue. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27754152#post27754152
If you have issues with apps not launching from the app drawer, home screen, or widget, then please post your issues in that thread which is focused on this issue and not here.
It looks like this might be related to a certain app or set of apps being installed on top of this ROM that causes the issue.
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Additionally, I have been running the Stock Rooted ROM from 6/13 (with camera fixed) along with the modified Radio from the Darkside Evolution.3 thread for the last 3 hours.
I have tried to reproduce the issue which I have been able to reproduce in under 30 minutes on v4 and v5. But so far I have not been able to reproduce it. This is with only an extreme bare minimum of apps installed on top of the stock ROM (that I can't live without).
I am going to start restoring apps and widgets to the phone and then running the reproduction steps until I hit a hang. Then I will work on isolating the exact app or widget that is causing this problem.
Installed in initial version (my must have apps, no widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
SWTOR security key
Google Authenticator
TB
WeatherBug
Amazon Appstore
Google Drive
Gentle Alarm
SwiftKey X
Tapatalk
VIP Access
Google Voice
Installed in second version (my most suspect apps, but still no widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
Facebook
WhatsApp
Unlock With WiFi
Skype
Scorecenter
SetCPU
QuickBoot
ROM Manager
Multi Mount SD-Card Lite
Well I haven't gotten a hang yet on the Stock ROM but I did get it to soft boot TW and disconnect my WiFi and BT while streaming music on Google Music and setting up Sync on Facebook. So Facebook is looking quite suspicious. Has anyone reproduced the app hangs without Facebook installed?
This soft reboot of TW also caused the time to be switched to GMT which has been reported on the TMO support forums with the stock ROM.
I ran test #2 here for well over an hour and I could not get another soft reboot or a single app launch hang. I did get some stuttering of music and slowdowns due to overloading the CPU and/or RAM and garbage collection. But nothing was unrecoverable or did not resolve itself with some time to let the CPU catch up. No reboots were needed.
Installed in third version (my most suspect apps AND widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
All apps from tests 1 and 2.
Scorecenter widget
Scorecenter video widget
Agenda widget
News and weather widget
Multi Mount SD-card lite widget
Google Voice widget
Digital Clock widget
I ran test #3 here for about another 45 minutes and saw no difference in performance or behavior. I did note that while the Multi Mount SD-card lite widget does show up in TW. Clicking on it does not appear to work (it delays a while and then gets su access, but never displays its dialog confirmaton). But it never caused a soft reboot or any app launch hangs.
Installed in fourth version (all of my apps, widgets, GO Launcher and Apex).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
I've been banging on the stock ROM with all of my apps and widgets installed for over an hour now. I've seen 2 soft reboots, usually when RAM/CPU usage gets high and the OS can't handle things. It is possible that this bug triggers a soft reboot in the stock ROM but instead triggers the app launch hang bug in darkside ROMs. But I haven't generally noticed the phone slowing down and music stuttering when I've had the app launch hang issue, but I do very much notice it on the stock ROM right before a soft reboot.
I'm going to run this stock ROM w/ all apps/widgets over night and see if I can make it through. So far I've only been using TW. But in another hour or so I'll enable Go Launcher and Apex for a couple hours each.
Overnight update:
I ran Apex for about 30 minutes, no issues. Ran Go Launcher for about 2 hours of use plus overnight time. Everything is still working just fine this morning. Already put in about an hour worth of use this morning with no issues yet.
So far after over a full day or testing and following reproduction steps for hours (that I can cause an app launch hang with on Darkside v5 in ~20 minutes), I am not able to cause an app launch hang on the stock ROM.
Here are the stock issues that I did find, which if seen on Darkside should not be reported against the ROM or to TDJ:
1) soft reboots when OS gets overloaded, disconnects wifi, BT, etc shuts down all apps.
2) Soft reboots cause timezone to get set to GMT
Edit 06/27: I've now been running the Stock rooted ROM from Mr.X for at least 3 full days of regular usage without a single app launch hang. During regular usage, I haven't seen any of the soft reboots or timezone issues either. I have run into issues with uninstalling bloatware though. I keep getting Delete Failed when trying to remove it from /system/app.
Yeah I spoke too soon as well. Not getting the app not opening up issue. I'm currently on v5. For me, I noticed that the times it has happened. It's been on the lower quadrant of battery drain. So when my battery gets lower than 25%. Not sure if that makes a significance on how the ram is handled. I noticed also my battery will start to get hot after the issue occurs before I end up rebooting my device.
I have also tried fresh installing the ROM and installing my apps manually without using any app for restoring just in case that was the issue which it turns out not to be the case for me since it still happens.
I hope we get this thing squashed. Or I may finally switch to a different ROM or back to stock for me with bloat removed.
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I really don't think the launcher is (solely?) to blame. When you open the Phone app, it opens (unlike everything else) but opens to a black screen with a blue gradient bar on top. You can also swipe away running apps via long-press home. It sounds like it may be a kernel issue?
For me, Skype randomly hangs on Darkside ROMs. It takes 4-5 force-stops to get one running properly.
tsuda said:
For me, Skype randomly hangs on Darkside ROMs. It takes 4-5 force-stops to get one running properly.
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I've noticed some issues with Skype too. That's why it made my list of most suspect apps. Many of my app launch hangs occurred while I had Skype open and running in the background. It eats up quite a lot of memory.
But so far while testing on the stock ROM, I haven't had any issues with Skype at all.
ive had the app hangs on all the ics roms i have tried ,darkside cache wipe and clearing launcher cache helps,but still there everyone once in awhile not with any specific app but with several.also when this happens i looke at the task manager and the ram is almost maxed out maybe ics is not handling the ram very well.just my observation.
Thanks for this thread, i wanted to comment in the Darkside Evo. v5 but i couldnt as i'm new.
I experienced the hang the last time when i tried to open the facebook chat, that was on version 5, i really liked v4 for all the features but there i got a lot of hangs several times a day doing random tasks, i had like 50 apps installed but i was removing them every time more and more.
Finally i decided to format both SD cards, internal and external and everything got better, but i have only had one hang in v5 several days ago, recently i've been messing with the phone trying several ROMS but now i'm back with v5 and im going to treat the phone like a b*tch to see if i can reproduce the hang with a clean clean installation, by the way im using the phoenix69 AOSP theme lockscreen, the aosp theme pack and some other stuff that is compatible...
I'll try to post if i get a new hang, i suspected of the powerful control widget, as the cause of the hang.
By the way, thanks for this extensive investigation Splaktar, i really wanted to be part of it.
Got another app hang.
I was configuring the phone after a clean installation, configuring options, putting some shortcuts, adding some widgets in Tw launcher, i installed apex and go launcher and used them a bit then returned to TW, i have the widgets: picture frame, accuweather, google search, power saving, and ICS clock, 3g watchdog small...
the case is i was messing around with some voice search on Dolphin Browser, when it happened, i minimezed the screen or don't remember exactly what happened but i wasn't able to open some apps, other do, but not all of them, which i found strange... system apps won't open, it really sucks this hang apps thing... i dont remember this happened on the darkside evo. 2 betas.
i can say that this happened in the exact moment i reached 65% battery.
Could it be something battery related? IDK.
Splaktar said:
I've noticed some issues with Skype too. That's why it made my list of most suspect apps. Many of my app launch hangs occurred while I had Skype open and running in the background. It eats up quite a lot of memory.
But so far while testing on the stock ROM, I haven't had any issues with Skype at all.
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Same here, no issue with Skype on stock ROMs.
But I got the same hanging issues on CM9 Alpha.
Updated 2nd post with results from testing last night and this morning.
Going to flash the stock ROM on a 2nd phone for further testing. Then go to a clean Darkside v5 ROM with no apps installed to see if I can reproduce.
So annoying that this issue doesn't leave any useful logcat information. There are 2 sets of logcats in the Darkside Evolution.3 thread that I haven't linked/posted here yet.
Doubt it helps but this just happened to me again on v5 but since I use Tasker and iseeyou and since they are ongoing tasks, I could actually open Tasker and iseeyou from the notification tray. Still had to reboot to use anything else, though.
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rdsugs mer.
Got another hang, this time opening the picture frame widget, the one that comes with the rom.
AT 64% OF MY BATTERY AGAIN.
Yesterday it was at 65%, it happened doing stuff in Dolphin browser which i uninstalled, then i restarted and continued using the phone until the battery drained, but no hang this time, i fully charged the battery, and got another hang at 64% exactly the moment i tried to open the picture frame widget.
This time i had 4 apps running in the background, google search, XDA devs pro, and i forgot the other two. I may be a noob or whatever, but my battery is my principal suspect or something power related, or the way how interacts power management and apps. i will try again.
I doubt its battery related as I just got my lockup while sitting at 100% on a charger.
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I doubt its battery related as I just got my lockup while sitting at 100% on a charger.
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Right, most/many of my app launch hangs have occurred while at 80-100% and connected to the charger.
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Right, most/many of my app launch hangs have occurred while at 80-100% and connected to the charger.
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I can possibly agree with the battery level one but not the charger one. Seems independent of the status.
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I can possibly agree with the battery level one but not the charger one. Seems independent of the status.
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Not sure if you read that right. I wasn't trying to say that the charging status has anything to do with the app hangs.
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Not sure if you read that right. I wasn't trying to say that the charging status has anything to do with the app hangs.
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Never said you were, I was just saying for me it seems independent.
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Hi again.
As i read the last replies, i connected my charger at 71% of my battery, after restarting and this time i really tried to get the hang, and i got it again with the picture frame widget, after i tried to open it the freezing started.
Other apps that i opened while doing thisalways hitting the home button to try to have them in background)
gmail
task manager (killed some apps and ram before)
talk (chatted with the guru a little)
chrome beta (opening some of my computer's tabs)
dialer
playstore
youtube (watched some videos then returned home)
speedtest (did some tests and aborted)
Google reader
the gallery who caused the crash
twitter
calculator
messaging
power saving
Those were the last things i triied with the charger connected, i was at 71%
activated all that can be activated (3g, wifi, gps, autosync, even the flashlight, everything, then the battery dropped to 70% charging and finally got the freezing. I think i will return to stock... until the problem is fixed... i really love TDJ Rom, and i hope to be back soon. I will try Mr.x stock rooted slightly modified ROM and Try to reproduce the hang.
Thanks for this Thread again, this app hang is really bad i wonder what causes it.
Arturo777 said:
Hi again.
As i read the last replies, i connected my charger at 71% of my battery, after restarting and this time i really tried to get the hang, and i got it again with the picture frame widget, after i tried to open it the freezing started.
Other apps that i opened while doing thisalways hitting the home button to try to have them in background)
gmail
task manager (killed some apps and ram before)
talk (chatted with the guru a little)
chrome beta (opening some of my computer's tabs)
dialer
playstore
youtube (watched some videos then returned home)
speedtest (did some tests and aborted)
Google reader
the gallery who caused the crash
twitter
calculator
messaging
power saving
Those were the last things i triied with the charger connected, i was at 71%
activated all that can be activated (3g, wifi, gps, autosync, even the flashlight, everything, then the battery dropped to 70% charging and finally got the freezing. I think i will return to stock... until the problem is fixed... i really love TDJ Rom, and i hope to be back soon. I will try Mr.x stock rooted slightly modified ROM and Try to reproduce the hang.
Thanks for this Thread again, this app hang is really bad i wonder what causes it.
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This testing is being done with Mr. X's Stock Rooted ROM. It does not appear to have the app launch hang.
Your apps are quite different from mine and we both have the issue. Plus my own testing appears to have shown that apps are not causing this behavior. So I'm fairly sure that this is an issue with the Darkside ROM base. There were some posts that said CM9 has some app launch hangs as well so there might be parts that TDJ got from CM9 that are causing the app launch hangs.
I agree that the Darkside ROM is amazing. I really find it hard to live without the notification bar toggles and the notification bar slide for brightness. Plus the wallpapers and other customizations are awesome. But having to reboot once or twice a day at random (often inopportune) times can be quite annoying or worse.
If you're having reboot problems please post here - if there are problem apps or bad devices out there it would be good to know!
Got a new Nexus 5X yesterday for my partner. Plugged it in and charged all day (oh what patience). 10pm started setup and added account to it. Phone immediately did an update which succeeded. Then it started to install the saved apps from the Google account, about 50 in all. After all the apps were installed I handed it over to her to play and log into all those apps with logins. Tedious.
Within about 30 minutes she tried to take a photo and it rebooted. Then a bit later she was using it and it rebooted again. Before going to be it rebooted a few more times. Then again this morning. There wasn't one particular app or other that was in use when these crashes happened. During the day she saw a message about "Google needs to restart". Also the camera often comes up with an all black screen and can't be used.
I called Google tech support and they wanted to do a factory reset and maybe a cache partition wipe. They would also like to investigate if a rogue app is causing the crashes by using it without any apps installed. Because reinstalling apps is so tedious I decided to have her do a cache partition reset I'm awaiting news. I'm hoping we don't have to do the other... I can't imagine how a bad app could be causing such repeated crashes (well I can, but it just shouldn't happen). That's lame...
It would really help if it was easy to get a crash log and find out the cause - unfortunately unless you're rooted this doesn't seem to be easy, and may well be impossible.
I've been having a lot of similar-sounding issues with my 5X. It's never rebooted while I was using it, but once or twice a day I'll pull it out of my pocket and it will be off, awaiting the unlock pattern to boot up.
The camera has been atrocious as well. I've seen the black screen you describe, tons of rotation lag, hanging, etc. Not just in Camera, but in other apps using the camera (such as when attaching a photo to a Hangout). Hoping this is something software-related and not a hardware problem.
I've had mine spontaneously reboot twice so far, both times I've pulled it out of my pocket and it required the PIN to unlock, then it booted up. I'm a bit concerned, as I have no idea when this happened, and, since it's encrypted a reboot essentially puts me offline until I notice it.
I just now had mine reboot during active use for the first time. I was long-pressing a wifi network in order to forget it (which is another 5x problem I keep having—wifi turns itself off or connects to the wrong networks).
My 5x was working fine and the crashing started happening yesterday...
they only app that i recently installed before the crashes started was firefox... are you guys using firefox by any chance???
Mine is still working fine, I do not have Firefox.
Same problem for me when using Firefox. The phone seems to crash and reboot when loading news websites containing photos and videos.
Not seen the issue when not using Firefox.
I've had my nexus 5x since mid/late November 2015. I've had the problem described below happen prior to today, and more than once.
Today, I cant turn my phone off - it seems to be in the middle of a reboot... the four coloured circles (google logo?) with colours going round and round. I powered it off cos it had started going slow... thought a reboot might fix the problem... but now its not starting and I cant even turn it off or do anything with it.. I've tried pressing the power button, I've tried holding the power button down, and I've tried different combinations... nothing seems to make a difference... (has been in that state of un-useablity for at least 30 mins now)
Anyone else also having wi-fi issues where facebook has an error and "cant connect" ?
I had the same thing happen and returned the phone, it's the only solution I found. I factory reset multiple times, called up Google and they told me to safe boot. Right.. I was completely stock and it rebooted multiple times / day and I know what I'm doing too, for the most part anyway. Got a replacement device and it has not once rebooted no matter what I do. Camera, Chrome random apps caused a reboot, it's not that. It's a defective device and you need to get it replaced period.
I have the same thing and can't sent it back to google because I live outside the US.
I believe it is a manufacture defect as I tried everything with no success really annoying.
Stuck with a brick...
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I used my phone completely stock for weeks and had zero issues, whereas I have a friend who ordered and received the phone at the exact same time (likely same mfg batch) and had issues. Difference between us two is that I'm a minimalist and only have about 50 apps installed, and he has a ton that he rarely uses and restores them every time.
I know it seems ridiculous, but having an android phone gives you more customization and your apps more power of the phone, so it's completely feasible for ONE rogue app to destroy performance and/or battery.
You guys might all want to try uninstalling apps one by one and figuring out which apps are killing performance. In particular, check out the running services (developer options -> running services) and see which apps are constantly running, since those are more likely to be the ones causing issues.
For example, I've used firefox (for adblocked browsing) for weeks recently, and can definitely say it's a pretty slow app, so if you're having issues on it, you may want to just use chrome or lightning browser.
I just ordered a replacement as well. Mine would reboot about 1 to 2 times a week right after the fingerprint unlock. Annoying as hell today because I was in the middle of a conf call.
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Hey all,
I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with my Note 7 (recall replacement one).
1. It lags like HELL! I've done all the animation scaling off/force GPU rendering etc, but I shouldn't have to. Just a simple thing like pulling down the notification bar noticeably lags every couple of times.
2. I use Android Auto, which I always have to reconnect manually to use (never did on the S7).
3. When listening to Spotify over Android Auto, I occasionally get stutter/glitches in the sound. Once the glitch was so bad the phone froze and it had to be reset.
4. The thing gets hot. Annoyingly hot, even if I'm just browsing Chrome, or reading G-mail etc. It's not like I'm gaming!!
5. WiFi is very sporadic. The connection is rock solid, but often it will be downloading an app...sit at 100% of download and progress no further. This happens quite frequently.
With all the above, (bar number 2), none of it applied to the pre-recalled Note 7.
I'm frustrated to say the least. Does anyone else get any of this whatsoever? I can't go through not having a phone again, or sending this for what Samsung will insist on a repair. This phone is jinxed and I'm gutted.
Any suggestions (bar a hard reset haha) will be greatly received.
PS. I have disabled loads of apps with the AppDisabler to try and help it along but I think there's an issue with the RAM or some of the internal modules (at a guess). Thanks all
I have just managed to reduce the lag quite a bit by uninstalling Samsung Good Lock (which was forced upon me earlier today)! I liked it, but serious lag creation!
Did you use Smart Switch to change phones? I've found quite a few apps don't like to be transferred. Android Auto apps don't move right via Smart Switch and I had to uninstall/reinstall them.
Be careful what you disable. Some of Samsung's seemingly benign system apps are called by other apps and if they don't respond are constantly polled. That could cause a lot of background processes and may be a source of your overheating. My pre-exchange phone did what you're describing the first couple of days after I set it up. It would maybe once or twice a day get blocky when scrolling as if something was running in the background. The (U.S.) PH1 update made it go away. But we're S-820 in the U.S. and I think you guys are Exynos. So different problems different solutions.
Thanks for your reply Barry. Actually not Smart Switch, but I let it restore my 100+ apps from my previous Note 7 (near the end of the initial set up). The apps were downloading but strangely, every so often nothing was happening after they'd reached 100% downloaded, just before "installing..." (over WiFi). I cancelled that specific app and the restore continued (this happened over and over). Turning WiFi on and off sorted it temporarily but I couldn't download more than 3/4 without this really strange issue.
I also observed the longest lag ever! I went into the OS update screen, pressed update and the device didn't respond. 5 mins later while doing something completely different, the update screen popped up about 12 times (as I'd pressed it 12 times 5 mins previously). This happened again after a reboot too!
Now, I've just bitten the bullet and performed a hard reset. This time the WiFi seems great, although now I'm speculating that it was getting stuck at 100% post download perhaps because the security thing was having trouble scanning it for malware prior to install.
I also take your note re:disabling stuff! I'm going to do something unheard of and just try it stock for a bit and see how it goes. For such amazing hardware, the fact my note 3 was running 10 times smoother means something drastic is going on. I hope this hard reset is the end of it!
Chances are the hard reset won't do anything, though I hope you have better luck than I did. I went through three phones (on my 4th). I did the hard reset as soon as I picked up the 2nd handset and onward before I did anything with the phone. Sadly you should not have to disable anything, the phone should just work for 900.00. Some will say otherwise.. Wi-FI is good for me but the reception is garbage. On various phones with T-MO including other android devices that colleagues have - they get 4/5 bars and usually double the download speed on Speedtest. The head I had on the first I don't get as bad on this one. But the lag I do...
Did you get the update from your provider as well?
I just picked up my replacement Sprint Note7 today so not much time with it though seems identical except 1 small issue. I had my first Note 7 rooted, Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos flashed along with Xposed and it worked flawlessly. The replacement Note fails with binary invalid using the exact same odin version, Sun7 systemless root etc that I have on my pc from the first Note 7 and the second Note 7 was given to me not updated, in other words its on the exact same firmware as the first one!
I am very proficient with rooting, adb, etc and this has me baffled.
Has anyone successfully rooted a replacement N930p that came with PH9? using freeza's guide?
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Thanks for your reply Barry. Actually not Smart Switch, but I let it restore my 100+ apps from my previous Note 7 (near the end of the initial set up). The apps were downloading but strangely, every so often nothing was happening after they'd reached 100% downloaded, just before "installing..." (over WiFi). I cancelled that specific app and the restore continued (this happened over and over). Turning WiFi on and off sorted it temporarily but I couldn't download more than 3/4 without this really strange issue.
I also observed the longest lag ever! I went into the OS update screen, pressed update and the device didn't respond. 5 mins later while doing something completely different, the update screen popped up about 12 times (as I'd pressed it 12 times 5 mins previously). This happened again after a reboot too!
Now, I've just bitten the bullet and performed a hard reset. This time the WiFi seems great, although now I'm speculating that it was getting stuck at 100% post download perhaps because the security thing was having trouble scanning it for malware prior to install.
I also take your note re:disabling stuff! I'm going to do something unheard of and just try it stock for a bit and see how it goes. For such amazing hardware, the fact my note 3 was running 10 times smoother means something drastic is going on. I hope this hard reset is the end of it!
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Yea disabling seems like a great idea at first but it actually creates problems. I run it completely as is except uninstalling the preloaded games. Didnt disable anything. Disabling stuff caused massive lag on my note 5 and same with note 7.
Thanks chaps.
I've gotta say, the hard reset has made the world of difference. Which to me is strange, I've never had to hard reset a new device, but it's done the trick.
Regarding the disabling of services, there must be *some* that are safe to disable? I agree if you're tinkering with potentially integral things like S-Voice it's not a good idea. But then stuff like OneDrive surely that's okay? Maybe, things like the Disabler package are a bad plan. You can disable software by default without it, but only certain apps. Maybe that's why Samsung prevent the disabling of certain bloat...?
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Thanks chaps.
I've gotta say, the hard reset has made the world of difference. Which to me is strange, I've never had to hard reset a new device, but it's done the trick.
Regarding the disabling of services, there must be *some* that are safe to disable? I agree if you're tinkering with potentially integral things like S-Voice it's not a good idea. But then stuff like OneDrive surely that's okay? Maybe, things like the Disabler package are a bad plan. You can disable software by default without it, but only certain apps. Maybe that's why Samsung prevent the disabling of certain bloat...?
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I only disable the useless apps, such as all the Microsoft bloat (OneDrive, Excel, Word, etc), Facebook (and all its services), and any Carrier bloat.
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I only disable the useless apps, such as all the Microsoft bloat (OneDrive, Excel, Word, etc), Facebook (and all its services), and any Carrier bloat.
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Disabling facebook services will broke gear VR.
It's a tricky one! I guess it's a bit of trial and error.
yussuf007 said:
Disabling facebook services will broke gear VR.
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That's cool. I have no interest in Gear VR.
I have heard somethings about latest version of chrome causing batt drain, could possibly contribute to lag also, I cant tell much as I am expecting my note 7 exchange, but I have seen some posting about it
Have no problems when I used package disabler and chose "disable all bloat"...but after doing that, I looked through the list and enabled around 3 to 5 that I thought didn't need disabling.
No problems since.
Oh...that option doesn't disable facebook, messenger, hangouts etc. So if you don't use those, you need to add them.
Thanks all. Well, after all that, and a hard reset my phone is running perfectly again. Then, this morning I received this from Oculus...
"We recently pushed an Oculus Software update that has inadvertently caused some people to experience phone performance issues."
I haven't put my phone into my Gear VR since the hard reset and I can almost guarantee it was that blimmin thing. Samsung have also updated their Good Lock app to remove lag yesterday!
Damn you Oculus!
Oh..and strangely, the first few hours I got the phone..it got pretty hot...especially since I was using it while charging. I turned off fast charging and no difference. Anyways I just cooled it down w the aircon now and then.
Long story short, it doesn't get hot anymore.
Maybe it's because I used package disabler snd greenify...but whatever I do...Even while charging..it barely gets warm...
Shrugs
koppee1 said:
Oh..and strangely, the first few hours I got the phone..it got pretty hot...especially since I was using it while charging. I turned off fast charging and no difference. Anyways I just cooled it down w the aircon now and then.
Long story short, it doesn't get hot anymore.
Maybe it's because I used package disabler snd greenify...but whatever I do...Even while charging..it barely gets warm...
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Yea they always get very hot for the first few hours while installing all the new apps! I'm not sure you need Greenify these days do you, since android tends to close apps that are not in use (giving you the same options as Greenify)?
Simples
Wipe data start again.
Set up as new phone and download apps again
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ChimpNippl3s said:
Simples
Wipe data start again.
Set up as new phone and download apps again
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^^^^^
This. I just spent two days doing that and its like a totally different phone. I started a thread highlighting my experiences.
i am quite annnoyed with the lag too. it's nothing too bad, but there's noticeable keyboard lag, and whenever you go into settings to search for something, it takes like two seconds to load. i don't even think this is a case by case situation here, this phone just isn't as fast as a oneplus 3, lg g5 or iphone 7 plus. again, it's not terrible, it's just not the fastest or smoothest.