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hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
havlaz said:
hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
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There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
Suhas_JS said:
There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
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Yep, the 2.3GHz model USUALLY costs 50-60€ more than the 1.8GHz (4gig) model.
Suhas_JS said:
There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
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Z3580 has also been released in India and i am using it.. I bought Asus Zenfone 2 (4GB, 2.3Ghz Z3580) from Flipkart only... It is the also mentioned in the Flipkart page (Intel Atom Z3580).... here is the link to the Z3580 phone http://www.flipkart.com/asus-zenfone-2/p/itme6pvuvfsxu5wb?pid=MOBE6PVUTMZSQNHE&ref=L%3A729938417393618866&srno=b_4
Leave it up to ASUS to make it all confusing with 8000 different models of the Zenfone 2. Going to make getting a custom ROM for your specific model a nightmare to figure out.
Several users (myself included) have gotten the 1.8/4GB model from eglobal central (£181). I'm sure there are plenty other sellers of this model. I too was under the impression that you needed to go for the 2.3GHz model to get the extra memory, but no. I didn't want to pay the extra £50-60 for the better CPU so I was glad I stumbled on this middle-of-the-road variant.
To date the 1.8ghz model with 4gb ram is the 551ml model and with 2gb ram is the 550ml model.
the 4gb 1.8ghz model is only available in the 32gb internal storage while the 2.3ghz model is 64gb internal storage.
Seriously though, on Antutu, if this stuff is a must, the 1.8ghz (4gb, cpu 3560) model scores around 40,000 and the 2.3ghz scores around 48,000 due to the better cpu(3580).
I don't see how this would be a nightmare for devs as it seems the roms for the 551ml models is the same....
Mine is 32gb, 4gb ram, 2.3ghz 3580
And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
1.8 GHz model is just fine
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
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I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
tersagun said:
And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
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Going by Antutu benchmarks,
3580 with 4gb ram at 2.3ghz = 48000 score.
3560 with 4gb ram at 1.8ghz = 41000 score.
I have both and truthfully the 1.8ghz model is no different in general use.
Up to you if you want the "Best" model out there or not....
88lochi said:
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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tersagun said:
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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@ultramag69
Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
tersagun said:
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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@ultramag69
Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
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If you go to youtube there are a heap of comparison videos, usually with flagship devices, which tells you this is a good phone as it's only 1/3 to 1/2 the price.
The reviews are delivered by (mostly) impartial people though they do of course have their favourite devices too....
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
88lochi said:
Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
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In Oz I paid $500 for my 64gb 4gb 2.3ghz Zenphone 2 and $350 for the 32gb 4gb ram 1.8ghz Zenfone 2... That's about right....
You need to remember when you pay $00 you are talking US dollars most times and you have to take into account the exchange rate...
I've put G3 price for reference point though. For some reason, Zenfone 2 launched at a fairly higher price compared to other phones/countries.
Most expensive Zenfone 2 is 555$ (USD) compared to 300$ @Amazon. So it's quite un-encouraging to grab it.
And regarding OPO; Turkey is not an official OPO sales country. On top of that, ordering ANY phone is a no-go because if it gets spotted at the customs, it's automatically rejected, no matter what. That's valid for even 100$ Chinese phones.
So we are forced to buy either overpriced official phones or "illegal" ones which are still not cheap (OPO is inbetween 400-450$)
Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
marcolo76 said:
Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
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Should be OK as long as its a 551ML model. You should read the Op's post as all the information is there...
Which should I buy 4gb version or 6gb version?
Depends on your needs. If you're not a "power user", 4gb ram will just be fine. Personally I'd go for 6gb RAM version, as it doesn't hurt to have more RAM (dunno about price difference though) and it's sort of "future-proof".
4Gb ram is enough for a normal user and also for a medium level gamer, but if you a hard gamer and you also use multiwindow feature a lot then you shout go for 6Gb ram verrient.
hi. The 6GB model exists only CN and EN language. Is it possible to install global rom on the 6GB model in the future? The Global rom for 6GB going to be created ????
It's also available in India so no worries about Global ROM
4gb cause the price difference in the 4/64 and 6/64 gb is to big to get 6gb ram and not get 128gb internal.
even the 3/32 is good enough and 20€cheaper but for 20€ i dont mind to get double internal and 4gb ram. just to be like nice
Hi,
Any news about the model with 6GB of RAM?
I want to know the final over price compared with the 4GB version; and the expected release date.
Regards.
I bought 6gb version from Amazon.in but not yet shipped. Shipping starts from 7th March this is what they have provided the update. Also this is not 128GB version. It comes with 6GB RAM and 64GB ROM. They would have proivded 128Gb instead of 64GB since M30 higher version comes with 128GB and lesser price i.e.,18k
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Thank you!
And which price has the 6GB/64GB compared with the 4GB/64GB in India?
Rs. 22,990
I bought the 6GB/64GB A50 today at the Samsung Cafe store today. Was informed that the 128GB variant won't be launching in India anytime soon.
Hi,
I feel Samsung is joking with us:
- In India you can purchase 4G+64 and 6G+64.
- In Philippines they accept pre-orders only of 6G+128.
- In Europe only the 4G+128 is published.
The 4GB of RAM version is a pure joke! Only the 6GB of RAM version has enough memory to run smoothly.
So, why in some markets (like Europe) the 6GB version ins't available?
manos78 said:
Hi,
I feel Samsung is joking with us:
- In India you can purchase 4G+64 and 6G+64.
- In Philippines they accept pre-orders only of 6G+128.
- In Europe only the 4G+128 is published.
The 4GB of RAM version is a pure joke! Only the 6GB of RAM version has enough memory to run smoothly.
So, why in some markets (like Europe) the 6GB version ins't available?
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Only the 6GB of RAM version has enough memory to run smoothly.
This is joke ???
manos78 said:
Hi,
I feel Samsung is joking with us:
- In India you can purchase 4G+64 and 6G+64.
- In Philippines they accept pre-orders only of 6G+128.
- In Europe only the 4G+128 is published.
The 4GB of RAM version is a pure joke! Only the 6GB of RAM version has enough memory to run smoothly.
So, why in some markets (like Europe) the 6GB version ins't available?
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Pixel 3 and 3xl too have 4gb ram. But, do they slow down? No, because it depends on optimization and ram management. 3gb is sufficient for now.
Hi,
Sorry for people that thinks 4GB of RAM isn't a joke!
Please, take note about this:
- My previous 2018 & 2017 mid-range smartphones have 4GB of RAM, so it's time to go forward.
- All flagships of 2019 have 6, 8 or more RAM, so 6GB isn't much memory.
- Android Q & R will expect to have 4GB of minimum RAM, so for the two next upgrades 4GB will be the minimum.
- From 2019 the stock memory range is entry-level-->4GB, mid-range-->6GB, premium-->8GB.
Please, take note that this model is for 2019-2020, so the 4GB it's a cut-down version. And the problem is: In Europe (perhaps in other areas too) only the version with 4GB will be avaiable. And this in fact is a joke!
manos78 said:
Hi,
Sorry for people that thinks 4GB of RAM isn't a joke!
Please, take note about this:
- My previous 2018 & 2017 mid-range smartphones have 4GB of RAM, so it's time to go forward.
- All flagships of 2019 have 6, 8 or more RAM, so 6GB isn't much memory.
- Android Q & R will expect to have 4GB of minimum RAM, so for the two next upgrades 4GB will be the minimum.
- From 2019 the stock memory range is entry-level-->4GB, mid-range-->6GB, premium-->8GB.
Please, take note that this model is for 2019-2020, so the 4GB it's a cut-down version. And the problem is: In Europe (perhaps in other areas too) only the version with 4GB will be avaiable. And this in fact is a joke!
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You just wrote a lengthy joke!
manos78 said:
Hi,
Sorry for people that thinks 4GB of RAM isn't a joke!
Please, take note about this:
- My previous 2018 & 2017 mid-range smartphones have 4GB of RAM, so it's time to go forward.
- All flagships of 2019 have 6, 8 or more RAM, so 6GB isn't much memory.
- Android Q & R will expect to have 4GB of minimum RAM, so for the two next upgrades 4GB will be the minimum.
- From 2019 the stock memory range is entry-level-->4GB, mid-range-->6GB, premium-->8GB.
Please, take note that this model is for 2019-2020, so the 4GB it's a cut-down version. And the problem is: In Europe (perhaps in other areas too) only the version with 4GB will be avaiable. And this in fact is a joke!
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No it's a common misconception that future phone will need more RAM , I am using a 4 yr old device with just 1.5 GB Ram and I can Play PUBG Mobile (It's at least playable, because it's a SD400 Series processor). 4 GB RAM is enough for a smartphone
My phone has Android pie (Bootleggers ROM) and it works Perfectly fine with 1.5 GB ram.
Pixel and iPhone have only 4GB RAM but still they are flagships, due to their software optimizations.
DONT EXPECT YOUR PHONE TO BE FASTER IF IT HAS MORE RAM, IT ALL DEPENDS UPON THE PROCESSOR
I have malaysian version with XME firmware and 6GB ram with 128 GB storage. Anyone knows if they are going to send new update for this version because I am stuck on february patch while others have moved on to april update.
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You just wrote a lengthy joke!
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Thru!!!
manos78 said:
Hi,
Any news about the model with 6GB of RAM?
I want to know the final over price compared with the 4GB version; and the expected release date.
Regards.
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I am using it. I bought it for 25.5K TK.
Hi,
As Samsung doesn't like to sold the 6GB version of the A50 in EUROPE, I'll purchase the A70... that has ONLY 6GB of RAM in EUROPE (and 8GB in India).
WHY THIS?
Hello,
Im planning on buying the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite and I have seen alot of listing for the version with 3GB RAM and 32GB Storage, and I wanted to know if the custom roms are also compatable with that model.
Kind Regards
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning on buying the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite and I have seen alot of listing for the version with 3GB RAM and 32GB Storage, and I wanted to know if the custom roms are also compatable with that model.
Kind Regards
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Custom ROMs are compatible with all versions of the mi a2 lite
Yes, they're compatible. The different numbers just denote a different RAM amount, 3GBs or 4GB.
Aight Thanks!
altho man, whats the differenece in price for 3gb or 4gb?
i would suggest to save a little bit and go for 4gb. it will help with multitasking, and future proofing.as 4gb is really a mid range standard now for phones.
I'm about to change my Samsung A50 and these are the options I saw ... taking into account that almost all of them are within the same price, which one suits me?
Xiaomi redmi note 10 pantalla de 6.44
Snapdragon 678 4gb ram
Camara 48
Samsung a70
Snapdragon 675 6gb ram
Samsung a51
Exynos 9611 4gb ram
Redmi note 8 pro
Mediatek helio g90t
6gb ram
Another question I have, the Samsung a70 with snapdragon and 6gb of ram is a good cell phone? accept the gcam is not true