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Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!
Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.
1)On korean version sysyem is 2gb and data 25gb
sunami88 said:
Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
no idea but it's a 32gb phone, there is probably no problem with it.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
no rom support NFC or hardware cap keys as of now
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
The latest Rogers is rootable (it's easier to root first and update later, keep root). Korean 4.1 update is rootable so I would guess Rogers 4.1 will also be rootable. We actually have a pretty good Can Dev community.
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
As of now there isn't much custom roms (you can see that yourself) But there is lots of potential.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!
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I also got a OG from Rogers and I might sell it and just use my N4. Storage is not an issue for me. More money in my pochet in the end and endless community support.
I would get a LGOG. The Note is really old and it's going to be two generations behind once new phones are launched in Q1 2013.
Wow, thanks for the replies! All that's left now is hope Rogers doesn't try and pull a fast one on me.
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.
Densitymax said:
Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.
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I tend to agree. I was planning on flashing some ROMs, but after playing around with the phone for a few days, I must say I actually like LG 's Android skin. Not as heavily skinned/modded as Sense, but enough tweaks to add to the stock experience rather than detract from it.
In my opinion anyway.
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sunami88 said:
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.
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Once you get it, root it, unlock it and throw the jelly bean Rom on it.. I loved my phone before but I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is better now.. more responsive, some nice built in features and better battery life..
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I'll probably stick with the stock ROM for a while. It'll be nice when some replacement kernel's start turning up. I use CIFS a lot on my current phone, and I would like to have OTG. Hmm, I might be able to insert the relevant modules once I have root...
Hell, if it ever gets Android 5 officially I might not have to flash a third party ROM at all .
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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You can't.
shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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There is no GPE G3.
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Not possible right now
keep your eyes on this section of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development
and wait for someone to port the GPE or when the 5.0 leak.
T mobiles LG G3 is the first to get root, bootloader unlock and custom recovery. It will be the first to get ROMS like AOSP android. That's your best bet. If you can find someone in good standing and get it unlocked, it should work on several carriers. It's up to the development community and what they create. I don't know what I would have done without them.
With something like GPE, are we going to lose extra functionalities like knock on and phone movement functions (like putting to ear to answer, flip to silence calls/snooze alarm), etc?
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With something like GPE, are we going to lose extra functionalities like knock on and phone movement functions (like putting to ear to answer, flip to silence calls/snooze alarm), etc?
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Basically yes.
Stock Android is plain and devoid of features. That's why we all root and ROM our Nexus phones. Latest versions of Android are overrated when ROMs or skinned phones offer more out of the box.
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shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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You sell your G3 for $550, you buy a Nexus 5 for $300, you now have the cleanest version of Android and an extra $250 in your pocket.
You're welcome.
bigkevbosky said:
You sell your G3 for $550, you buy a Nexus 5 for $300, you now have the cleanest version of Android and an extra $250 in your pocket.
You're welcome.
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Lol 550. I paid 570 New for my g3 from att. I don't see anybody getting 550 for it used
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903tex said:
Lol 550. I paid 570 New for my g3 from att. I don't see anybody getting 550 for it used
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http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-tmobile/us
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-att/us
Your G3 is worth less because AT&T sucks. That's why.
partylikeaninjastar said:
Stock Android is plain and devoid of features. That's why we all root and ROM our Nexus phones. Latest versions of Android are overrated when ROMs or skinned phones offer more out of the box.
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And stock Android (or at least the Nexus version of Android) is still, by far, the best version available. Why do Nexus owners modify it? Because they CAN.... and it gives them an excellent framework on which to do so. Most everything you can do on ANY of these ROMs, you can find something that can approximate the same feature.... so you can pick and choose what you want. The UI isn't cluttered, screens aren't unnecessarily crowded. I had a Nexus 5 before I got my G3 and I can say, without hesitation, that I would replace the G3's stock ROM with AOSP the instant a fully functional one became available. When I first got my G3, I spent the better part of the first days of owning it doing my best to strip away the OEM stuff on there and 'Nex-ify' it.... Ideally, I'd have an AOSP-based ROM to work off rather than work around LG's stuff.
In fact, I'm going to try to build one for myself... I downloaded LG's D851 source code earlier to day actually (thank you LG for releasing the system and kernel sources). I'm not expecting this to be an easy task, not in the least... but the ONLY shortcoming that I can see in this phone is the software loaded on it, so if I can work around that, I'll be quite pleased.
LeoRex said:
And stock Android (or at least the Nexus version of Android) is still, by far, the best version available. Why do Nexus owners modify it? Because they CAN.... and it gives them an excellent framework on which to do so. Most everything you can do on ANY of these ROMs, you can find something that can approximate the same feature.... so you can pick and choose what you want. The UI isn't cluttered, screens aren't unnecessarily crowded. I had a Nexus 5 before I got my G3 and I can say, without hesitation, that I would replace the G3's stock ROM with AOSP the instant a fully functional one became available. When I first got my G3, I spent the better part of the first days of owning it doing my best to strip away the OEM stuff on there and 'Nex-ify' it.... Ideally, I'd have an AOSP-based ROM to work off rather than work around LG's stuff.
In fact, I'm going to try to build one for myself... I downloaded LG's D851 source code earlier to day actually (thank you LG for releasing the system and kernel sources). I'm not expecting this to be an easy task, not in the least... but the ONLY shortcoming that I can see in this phone is the software loaded on it, so if I can work around that, I'll be quite pleased.
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Nexus owners modify their phones because stock Android leaves so much to be desired and it add functionality that mind blowingly isn't in stock — a fine example being quick settings that are actually quick (and customizable) and something as simple as showing the battery percent in the status bar.
And how do you figure that the UI is cluttered on the G3? How exactly is that so? The screens aren't necessarily crowded in the least bit. Visually, the Nexus 5 and G3 don't differ much outside of the default launcher (that most people change anyway regardless of which phone they're on) and the settings menu. I'd argue that the G3 presents the settings better since you can quickly jump to what you want thanks to them being tabbed. Aside from those, the differences are negligible because you'd only find yourself in apps beyond that. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch of "bloat" that is easy to remove or otherwise easy to ignore.
There is literally nothing obtrusive about LG's UI here. People are just Nexus/Google obsessed. That is my opinion after owning a Nexus 4 and still owning a Nexus 5 and 7. I don't need to "Nexify" my phone because there is literally nothing that a Nexus has over the G3 except for being a download away from the Google camera and its ability to take photosphere photos.
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bigkevbosky said:
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-tmobile/us
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-att/us
Your G3 is worth less because AT&T sucks. That's why.
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That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! Its called common sense. Why pay 550 when you can get one New for couple bucks more?
You can price what you want doesn't mean your going to get that price lol!
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And how do you figure that the UI is cluttered on the G3? How exactly is that so?
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The notification panel, like in touchwiz, is a hot mess. HTC, to their credit, left things be and themed the notification and quick settings panels, rather than smashing them into one. I hated that about touchwiz and I hate it here... thankfully, I was able to toss the worst with tweakbox.
The rest of the layout isn't horrible... just laid out awkwardly. Between tweakbox and the Now Launcher, things are pretty good now. I just prefer AOSP, visually. If you're fine with it, that's cool.
By the way, the Google camera, and photosphere, work on the G3.
903tex said:
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! Its called common sense. Why pay 550 when you can get one New for couple bucks more?
You can price what you want doesn't mean your going to get that price lol!
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How is that dumb? If he has the T-Mo version, he can sell it for more. Look at the link I provided. T-Mo's versions are selling for $550. So my original statement that he could sell it for $550 and have $250 left after buying a Nexus 5 is correct.
I didn't check AT&T prices because I did away with that worthless company last year. Still, even if he has an AT&T version, he can sell it for $450 and have $150 left in his pocket. My original point is valid either way.
Why the hell are you arguing with me about this? Is it just to be able to have an argument on the internet?
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How is that dumb? If he has the T-Mo version, he can sell it for more. Look at the link I provided. T-Mo's versions are selling for $550. So my original statement that he could sell it for $550 and have $250 left after buying a Nexus 5 is correct.
I didn't check AT&T prices because I did away with that worthless company last year. Still, even if he has an AT&T version, he can sell it for $450 and have $150 left in his pocket. My original point is valid either way.
Why the hell are you arguing with me about this? Is it just to be able to have an argument on the internet?
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Lol I'm not arguing with you. I just know nobody gonna pay that much for a used g3 when you can get one New for a couple of bucks more.
LeoRex said:
The notification panel, like in touchwiz, is a hot mess. HTC, to their credit, left things be and themed the notification and quick settings panels, rather than smashing them into one. I hated that about touchwiz and I hate it here... thankfully, I was able to toss the worst with tweakbox.
The rest of the layout isn't horrible... just laid out awkwardly. Between tweakbox and the Now Launcher, things are pretty good now. I just prefer AOSP, visually. If you're fine with it, that's cool.
By the way, the Google camera, and photosphere, work on the G3.
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The notification panel is only as cluttered as the user makes it as any toggle in it is optional. A single line of icons with your most commonly used toggles first is not cluttered. I don't even need to scroll past the first five icons in my notification panel and I don't need the sliders either (though they do help if you want your notifications to start off lower to make them easier to select one handed). The stock Quick Settings are even more cluttered (a separate page of huge icons on a grid), so the Android L design will be a welcome and more useful refresh of the idea.
daleski75 said:
Basically yes.
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GPE ROMs have plenty of OEM features in them.
Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
i'm somehow convinced that when the official android M update from LG finally released, the developer scene would start to bud here and there.
but for now, i think the developers are gathering only in some unlocked bootloader variants...
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I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
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The play is a midranger with a good battery not comparable with a flagship like the G4. Maybe you were thinking of the Style or Pure as its known in the US.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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Not too much at the moment. Just root. To use xposed entails risk as there is no recovery. Unless you can source a H815 euro variant of the G4.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.
One Twelve said:
What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.
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I'll be honest, I was about to use my middlefinger to write an aggressive post for you but the intelligent part of my brain said "STOP! THINK!". So I thought...and thought again. Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!
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Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!
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Will you be able to convince the OP of that ?
Otherwise he needs to look elsewhere.
AZDJedi said:
Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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It's too early for the G4 now. Currently only the EU H815 model has an unlockable bootloader. LG's official page says more devices will be added to the list soon, but I wouldn't count on that. Since you're from Canada and propably won't get the H815 on contract, it'd be risky. If I had your patience, I'd wait for the 5X. You seem to be an Android purist. I wouldn't want to deal with a device running a custom version of Android. Also, even if CM or any other AOSP ROM would make its way to the various variants of the G4, they're going to have these little issues here and there because of bad or missing documentation from the manufacturer. It'll be a buggy experience overall. For example, I'm sure the camera will be a mess on CM/AOSP/A
AZDJedi said:
So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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It's great so far. Running vanilla Android was a nice experience but I got bored. Having a custom UI with the option to use a custom vanilla Android is the perfect place for me. But as I said, right now I have no reason to go vanilla.
5X = 32gig no sd
G4 = sd
I can't live with 32gig so G4 fills all my needs. Stock too.
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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There is no custom recovery as in there is none for the G4 variant you most likely will be getting in Canada, as of now. However, there are reports of an unofficial Bootloader unlock method coming for many variants of the G4. It's important to note that in this case you must not take OTA updates or the unofficial unlock method won't work. Anyway, no need to get into detail much.
There's no need for a custom recovery since flash fire is enough to get xposed working.
Btw. Is that a Rick & Morty reference?
Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?
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Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?
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I guess you mean the 5X? In this case, yes, you can expect the great minds of XDA to develop for this device and since the 5X is relatively cheap and people tending towards mid-high-range devices, you can expect a big fellowship in the 5X development section and forum in general.
Nvm, I was referring to the "whoopdeedoo". Realized that "whoopdeedoo" is a very common saying. Just binge-finished Rick & Morty but somehow my brain is still processing the information.
EDIT: A Rick & Morty reference would be like, uh, like "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub", or "Get shwifty" or how much "Schmeckles" does the Moto X cost and so forth. Wait, what?
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol.
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Yes, it certainly pays to do your research before you dive in.
There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
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am not too knowledgable on the xposed side of things. it was an interaction i had with someone on youtube and they said if you do not have access to kdz, then in case of a boot loop you would not be able to recover. since you're in canada and the carriers there are no better than us carriers, xposed might not be an option unless you REALLY know what you're doing. There's these TOT's instead so somebody more knowledgeable can answer.
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
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yeah, vendors keep cameras very close to their chest. Only stock based roms will preserve camera or lets say are more certain to preserve it.
other stuff is going to be buggy or not work too well. this is down to developers so you end up using 3rd party cameras but its not the same as stock when it comes to cameras.
The cameras on the nexii are pretty good from what i've heard. But I would contend that the lack of OIS is an egregious omission when the last two nexii had it. Maddening! why go to the trouble to develop such a good camera and leave it out (!!!)
This means you will have to have a good handhold to avoid blur or camera shake indoors or in low light. But if the light is enough i think you will be happy with the nexus cameras. They really have come a long way since the Nexus 4. In good light i would not be surprised to see them rivaling the S6/G4 in terms of preservation of details. They are that good. But unfortunately thats it.
Btw the nexii are 12MP shooters. Don't let the mega pickles bother you just check out the photos at the pixel level and see for yourself.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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thought the whole point of getting an iphone is that there is no need to do jailbreaking. not nowadays anyway. why would you want to jailbreak ios9 ?
Okay, so I'm not a senior member or anything here but I have been around these forums for some time now and there is almost nothing I want more right now than root and custom recovery for this variant of the s6 edge plus. My initial pledge is $100 for root only, and another $100 for custom recovery. Anyone that would like to help me with this thread will be extremely appreciated. Any advice will be taken with gratitude and humility. Let's create some motivation for all those amazing devs out there! Make sure to post the specific bounty you are pledging to, otherwise your contribution will not be added to the list.
Pledges:
Root - total(12/30/15) = $520
samiamanaddict - $100
O0Gjulian -$100
carbonfiber2gsx -$25
dave357 - $25
Soypoi - $25
thenobileone - $25
besvipru - $100
nugzo - $50
hchris24 - $20
gr546jmn5 - $50
Custom Recovery - total(11/18/15) = $200
samiamanaddict $100
O0Gjulian - $100
please help the rooting and costom recovery
I saw this on Twitter, I don't know if it's legit
There must be someone who can unlock the bootloader. Once that is accomplished, everything can be done.
please help for bootloader
I'm good for 100 :cyclops:
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Why is the Att variant so hard to crack the bootloader? Can someone explain how it works and why it's so hard to get root and unlock the bootloader on Att devices please?
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I will pledge $25 for root access
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dave357 said:
Why is the Att variant so hard to crack the bootloader? Can someone explain how it works and why it's so hard to get root and unlock the bootloader on Att devices please?
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Samsung has a deal with the two cellular giants, AT&T and Verizon. Samsung claims that the extra security against root access on these two companies is so that Samsung can grow as a device used for enterprise. It is a valid claim to a certain extent, but not really all that sensible. Samsung could easily come out with two separate versions of the firmware, one for the root loving, custom craving consumer like you and I, and one for uptight, dickwad businessmen. In short, Samsung wants more money from big corporations so they highly increase security that prevents root access, leaving the average civilian customer stuck with a very limited version of something they should be allowed to customize to their heart's content (being THAT WE FRICKEN PAID TOP DOLLAR FOR IT.) I hope this answered your question.
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I will donate $25 for root access UT only if it's done within the next 6 months. No one cares if the next best thing comes out. Lol
I'm all for pledging $25... I just bought my phone today and I hate all that extra bloatware bull**** that I'm never going to use.
*kicks self for not researching ROOT before buying*
I'll put 25$ for root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dave357 said:
I will donate $25 for root access UT only if it's done within the next 6 months. No one cares if the next best thing comes out. Lol
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There is nothing binding you to pay anyway so if it doesn't happen in the next six months you can either choose to pay..or not. Thanks for the pledge though!
soypoi said:
I'm all for pledging $25... I just bought my phone today and I hate all that extra bloatware bull**** that I'm never going to use.
*kicks self for not researching ROOT before buying*
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I know right! Totally kicked myself for not looking before I leapt.:crying: Thanks for the pledge!
I've downloaded the app package disabler pro.
Even though it just disables the packages, sadly doesn't fully remove them, helped out a bit with speed and battery life improvements.
Im.dying for a root on this device!!
Sadly I've seen no work or even word with it
Sadly,I'm starting to lose hope
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I've downloaded the app package disabler pro.
Even though it just disables the packages, sadly doesn't fully remove them, helped out a bit with speed and battery life improvements.
Im.dying for a root on this device!!
Sadly I've seen no work or even word with it
Sadly,I'm starting to lose hope
Sent from my beautiful galaxy S6 edge+:cyclops:
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I am feeling pretty blue lately about the lack of talk going around about someone working on root for this device as well. Has everyone really given up? Are we really all going to crawl into a hole and let samsung and the 'evil big two' win here? I myself do not believe for one second that any system is completely secure. Ever. There is an exploit waiting to be discovered. I know it.
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I am feeling pretty blue lately about the lack of talk going around about someone working on root for this device as well. Has everyone really given up? Are we really all going to crawl into a hole and let samsung and the 'evil big two' win here? I myself do not believe for one second that any system is completely secure. Ever. There is an exploit waiting to be discovered. I know it.
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Hope you're right man!
I wish I was technology advanced to being even starting the process!!
I am clueless of where to begin!
I sure hope we get at least someone stating they're working on a exploit for this monster of a device!
Sent from my beautiful galaxy S6 edge plus :cyclops:
soypoi said:
I'm all for pledging $25... I just bought my phone today and I hate all that extra bloatware bull**** that I'm never going to use.
*kicks self for not researching ROOT before buying*
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There's actually an app that DOES remove bloatware - of course it doesn't require root as I have used it very well for months now on my 928A.
It's called "Package Disabler Pro" and exists in the app store, I believe you have to pay a small amount for real functionality, but I was able to completely remove all AT&T bloat and all Samsung bloat.. but be careful - don't disable things you're not 100% sure of..
If you do make an error, you can always go back and re-enable that package.
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There's actually an app that DOES remove bloatware - of course it doesn't require root as I have used it very well for months now on my 928A.
It's called "Package Disabler Pro" and exists in the app store, I believe you have to pay a small amount for real functionality, but I was able to completely remove all AT&T bloat and all Samsung bloat.. but be careful - don't disable things you're not 100% sure of..
If you do make an error, you can always go back and re-enable that package.
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This application only disables the bloat, it does not remove it. It is still taking up my precious little bits of memory. Pun intended.
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+100$ for root or add russian in stock firmware for download.
hey guys, hope you all are well and enjoying your devices.
I am about to buy a new phone to replace my samsung galaxy note and the mate 20 x 4g is the most attractive device for me right now, i do have quite a few options within the same budget range
the mate 20 x 128gb for 579 euro ( global ) or the 256gb chinese version for 666 euro which isnt so far above the global standard one or the samsung galaxy note 9 128 gb for 620 euro or one plus 7pro for 660 euro for the 256 gigs version.
my wife is currently in germany and i will be asking her to buy it from there since its not available here.
tbh the mate x is the one that makes me wanting to buy a new phone but anything else can wait so there for comes my question, which version of the mate x should i buy and why ?
i will be using the device between egypt and germany . the chinese version seems very appealing for the more ram and storage. i am not an intense gamer by any means and i dont need the 256 as i never have filled my note 64 gigs, the thing to me is more about long term usability and mostly the ram more than the storage and having my phone smooth for my usage .
i dont play games on my phone bc they kinda lag and lag annoys the heck out of me, i use uber most times am on the road and definitely google maps, google search/ now for my searching for whatever and nova launcher as my most loved launcher for years now and always went back to it, gmail as my default email ,social media ofc fb, whatsapp, instagram, twitter, youtube and definitely watching something on the go or viewing pics ( i always have lots of pics on my phone ) , music and for sure photography, rarely shoot videos. i also use swiftkey as my main keyboard with only arabic, english and german on it.
i have my note 5 rooted and debloated from every useless app that i never use or would ever need and it does help keeping my phone somehow fast and light
please if you can state clearly what problems have you ever had with the chinese model ? or what do you like about the chinese model that makes it worth buying ?
are the issues on the chinese version easy to ignore for the sake of more storage and ram and also the ota updates that seems similar ?
were you able to remove chinese bloatware and enjoy a similar experience to global ?
how good is the screen specially its only fhd+ ? and how is smooth is your experience with the 6gb ram ? specially if playing demanding new games .
i usually keep my phone for quite a long period of time, i have my note for 4 years now. I like the mate for the ginarmous 7.2, small bezels, flat screen (no useless side curves ) , am an architect with ocd so symmetry is a big freaking deal,the huge battery, small notch, physical fingerprint reader, somehow manageable price , it fits most of my design elements and also budget , so your answer will really matter, will definitely appreciate more clear direct details, thank you in advance guys and sorry for my long post
I love my EVRL29 version...this is by far the best phone I have used hands down.
I purchased mine from Amazon.com and have the protection of Amazon. I purchased the AL00 first as I had the EVRL29 previously (6 months ago but sold it to get the P30Pro) but I ended up missing my Mate 20X so much I had to sell my P30Pro and get back to my Mate 20X. The AL00 was easy to remove the bloat etc but I couldn’t get all Google to work including some of the Google back ups. I couldn’t get Google Pay to work but actually activating the Google apps was very easy. I had to return the AL00 though as I just didn’t want a fantastic phone that only half worked...maybe not half but you get the picture. I reordered from the Amazon.com dealer and the phone was shipped the following day Thursday and I had it in my hands Friday afternoon. The pick up time was Thurs at 3pm and delivered the next day by noon, from Hong Kong to Victoria, B.C literally overnight. Anyways I also have received 4 updates since I got the phone and I would 100% get the EVRL29 model as everything works including Google Pay, back ups, everything...I love this phone!
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I love my EVRL29 version...this is by far the best phone I have used hands down.
I purchased mine from Amazon.com and have the protection of Amazon. I purchased the AL00 first as I had the EVRL29 previously (6 months ago but sold it to get the P30Pro) but I ended up missing my Mate 20X so much I had to sell my P30Pro and get back to my Mate 20X. The AL00 was easy to remove the bloat etc but I couldn’t get all Google to work including some of the Google back ups. I couldn’t get Google Pay to work but actually activating the Google apps was very easy. I had to return the AL00 though as I just didn’t want a fantastic phone that only half worked...maybe not half but you get the picture. I reordered from the Amazon.com dealer and the phone was shipped the following day Thursday and I had it in my hands Friday afternoon. The pick up time was Thurs at 3pm and delivered the next day by noon, from Hong Kong to Victoria, B.C literally overnight. Anyways I also have received 4 updates since I got the phone and I would 100% get the EVRL29 model as everything works including Google Pay, back ups, everything...I love this phone!
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i get it, am just intrigued by the more ram and storage which is always good to have, can you use nova launcher ? am not planning to root at all thats aside for the mostly locked bootloader etc and seems on the chinese one cant use nova and gotta stick to huawie, am planning to change the dpi if possible like on my note to get more of the screen etc.
what are the issues you have ran into from the chinese model ? aside from what you mentioned ofcourse
I am pretty sure you can run Nova on it, I seem to recall having it on my old mate 20 x.
The AL00 had issues such as getting the updates I would have to have Hicare set up and set to China as the region then click on updates to 'request' the download then have to go to system updates to see if it actually was there. With the EVR-L29 it just shows up in the updates OTA with no effort. The notifications never fully worked as you wouldn't get the ability to expand the notification, you would just click on it and it would take you to the app for example and you couldn't delete the notification.
Like I said for me anyways, it only ever half worked.
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I am pretty sure you can run Nova on it, I seem to recall having it on my old mate 20 x.
The AL00 had issues such as getting the updates I would have to have Hicare set up and set to China as the region then click on updates to 'request' the download then have to go to system updates to see if it actually was there. With the EVR-L29 it just shows up in the updates OTA with no effort. The notifications never fully worked as you wouldn't get the ability to expand the notification, you would just click on it and it would take you to the app for example and you couldn't delete the notification.
Like I said for me anyways, it only ever half worked.
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so , am leaning towards the international version now after the research i made , but do you think this phone or worth getting ? i dont have a chance to experience it in person and only seen it in videos ...
have you noticed pixels in the screen ? and what about gaming , can it handle anything ? honestly i have always wanted such a ginormous phone with tiny bezels and nothing on the market comes close specially at this price point but the screen does kinda worry me
Get the China Version. More RAM and Storage. The screen is FANTASTIC. It's one of the best things about the phone. Plus it gets updates way faster. Updates are OTA. U don't need Hi Care. Getting the Chinese Bloat off is simple. Many threads on here to assist u. I'm in Canada and have had zero issues. Best phone BY FAR I've ever had.
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Get the China Version. More RAM and Storage. The screen is FANTASTIC. It's one of the best things about the phone. Plus it gets updates way faster. Updates are OTA. U don't need Hi Care. Getting the Chinese Bloat off is simple. Many threads on here to assist u. I'm in Canada and have had zero issues. Best phone BY FAR I've ever had.
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After researching a lot about the differences, am convinced with the Chinese version despite the fact that I don't need the extra storage. My only issue right now is if buying it is the right decision at the moment specially with the huawie ban and I don't know how things will go in the soon future. This is the only phone on the market that makes me feel am getting more than the typical.
Honestly if the phone never got another update. It would still be a keeper. It's that good. I've had this phone almost a year and even loaded with apps and music. It's as fast has the day I got it. No other phone I've owned( Sammy, LG, Google) did that. They all slowed down. Pull the trigger. U won't regret it.
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Honestly if the phone never got another update. It would still be a keeper. It's that good. I've had this phone almost a year and even loaded with apps and music. It's as fast has the day I got it. No other phone I've owned( Sammy, LG, Google) did that. They all slowed down. Pull the trigger. U won't regret it.
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i totally feel you man, thing with me is now the chinese is only option and the version i want would cost 650 euro with shipping so i just wanna make sure that my phone and the apps and services would work and now the mate 30x is said to come with harmony os !!!! so its a tight situation , either way i do have a bit of time before i buy anyway but i always like to hear different prespectives
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i totally feel you man, thing with me is now the chinese is only option and the version i want would cost 650 euro with shipping so i just wanna make sure that my phone and the apps and services would work and now the mate 30x is said to come with harmony os !!!! so its a tight situation , either way i do have a bit of time before i buy anyway but i always like to hear different prespectives
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Hi, in the end did you went ahead with it?
Zegnalabel said:
Hi, in the end did you went ahead with it?
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Hey, I went for the global version when I found a good deal on Amazon UK for 580 euros with the pen and the flip case.
Am loving my device and the phone is totally worth it. Good luck.
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Get the China Version. More RAM and Storage. The screen is FANTASTIC. It's one of the best things about the phone. Plus it gets updates way faster. Updates are OTA. U don't need Hi Care. Getting the Chinese Bloat off is simple. Many threads on here to assist u. I'm in Canada and have had zero issues. Best phone BY FAR I've ever had.
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Thanks for this info, though I am 2 months late in seeing this.
I'm also contemplating if were to go for the China version due to the 256GB storage. However after much research on XDA and in fact everywhere on the net, I saw there are several challengers for me to overcome with the china version. A summary of my findings as follows. Appreciate if you have further insight.
China version and Global version bands are exactly the same. This is a plus point.
China version no playstore but can be easily installed. Another plus point.
China version bootloader can be unlock => but no use as huawei stopped providing unlock code since last year(?). Even paid unlock code no longer work or are for sales. While L29 don't even have any function for OEM unlock. Therefore this point is a tie between China vs global.
China version "access to voice match" doesn't work and no solution found on XDA to-date. Its okay for me since voice unlock in not necessary but a good to have. So I'm leaving this as a tie.
china version widevine L3 no HD netflix. Not a showstopper for me as I can just stop watching netflix on mobile and turn to downloading and playing tv series via VLC.
China version does not allow replacing launcher. For me, changing to Nova prime is a must have. And this is a likely show-stopper. Although there are method on XDA to use ADB to uninstall the huawei launcher but along with that the stock full navigation gesture is lost. Got to separately install fluid gesture, full screen gesture, etc. app but those aren't as smooth as original huawei gesture.
China version problem with google pay or adding international visa/mastercard even though NFC is working. Can't find any other info around this if it is really a problem.
China version hivoice and hiboard even though can be uninstall via ADB but needs to be uninstall each time after every update. Further problem - after replacing hivoice with google voice assistance, android will keep asking for default assistance prompt once google voice assistance auto closed. Currently no way to make google voice assistance persistent. Not even pinning in recent menu cause it to stay open.
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MO11 said:
Hey, I went for the global version when I found a good deal on Amazon UK for 580 euros with the pen and the flip case.
Am loving my device and the phone is totally worth it. Good luck.
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Thanks for your reply. I would have gone for L29 too had it not be the 256gb storage way too tempting... lol
Zegnalabel said:
Thanks for this info, though I am 2 months late in seeing this.
I'm also contemplating if were to go for the China version due to the 256GB storage. However after much research on XDA and in fact everywhere on the net, I saw there are several challengers for me to overcome with the china version. A summary of my findings as follows. Appreciate if you have further insight.
China version and Global version bands are exactly the same. This is a plus point.
China version no playstore but can be easily installed. Another plus point.
China version bootloader can be unlock => but no use as huawei stopped providing unlock code since last year(?). Even paid unlock code no longer work or are for sales. While L29 don't even have any function for OEM unlock. Therefore this point is a tie between China vs global.
China version "access to voice match" doesn't work and no solution found on XDA to-date. Its okay for me since voice unlock in not necessary but a good to have. So I'm leaving this as a tie.
china version widevine L3 no HD netflix. Not a showstopper for me as I can just stop watching netflix on mobile and turn to downloading and playing tv series via VLC.
China version does not allow replacing launcher. For me, changing to Nova prime is a must have. And this is a likely show-stopper. Although there are method on XDA to use ADB to uninstall the huawei launcher but along with that the stock full navigation gesture is lost. Got to separately install fluid gesture, full screen gesture, etc. app but those aren't as smooth as original huawei gesture.
China version problem with google pay or adding international visa/mastercard even though NFC is working. Can't find any other info around this if it is really a problem.
China version hivoice and hiboard even though can be uninstall via ADB but needs to be uninstall each time after every update. Further problem - after replacing hivoice with google voice assistance, android will keep asking for default assistance prompt once google voice assistance auto closed. Currently no way to make google voice assistance persistent. Not even pinning in recent menu cause it to stay open.
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Thanks for your reply. I would have gone for L29 too had it not be the 256gb storage way too tempting... lol
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Oh yes I know the temptation about the storage and ram but man I just love nova even tho after dealing with the stock launcher I would have been fine with it, I also had a note 5 64 gigs that I never used it all so I now have like 70 gigs free on my phone [emoji16].
Also I didn't want to have to go through lots of workaround for somethings specially soon I will move to Germany and want everything to work with no hassle especially banking stuff.
Also if I wanted to get the cn version I would have to get it from China which to me is a risk I do t see no point in taking.
And after seeing the bundle offer on Amazon UK, I was all decided.
So after having the phone, the extra ram and storage would have been useless to me.
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Welcome to the Club. Still the Best phone out IMO.
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