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Impressions & Reviews and thoughts about KitKat + EMUI 2.3! (B510)

I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page. At multi-tasking when i close app with gesture, (not clicking on "X") it closes not smoothly.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?

benjaminbodoky said:
I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?
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This is BETA, so it's undestandable to have some issues and missing apps. All apps will be there in the official release.

Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?

warea said:
Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?
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Yes. Give it a shot, it is much faster and all the new functions are running very smooth. The performance is much better.

Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !

interdan said:
Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !
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Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".

benjaminbodoky said:
Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".
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I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:

for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p

interdan said:
I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:
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Im curious about future updates. They said, at the end of july they will release the final version. doubt that we will have a newer beta. I hope everybody will gave a feedback to them. The wierd thing, is we have official beta for 2.3 but china didnt.

meilbox said:
for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p
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Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.

benjaminbodoky said:
Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.
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And without Boot Manager & Background Manager.

Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.

ShahKashif said:
Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.
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This is not the way to root the device. You must install KK TWRP and that will root your device.

@BeyondTheHorizon (assuming your working for Huawei)
My impressions, after updating from B506 to B510. Note that since i have already used Emui2.3 beta (B014) and Emui 2.0 (official) i will not get into mentioning its improvements over Emui1.6.
- Magazine lockscreen is awesome. But i don't understand why magazine option is enabled only for a selected theme, while a few other theme have weather option on lockscreen, and why not instead have them all for all themes. (Also haven't figured out what the "link" option is within the magazine lockscreen menu).
- Overall there is lags and inconsistency in transition and animation speeds everywhere.
Examples:
> Pulling down notification panel has slower animation then when pulling it back up. While on the other hand there is also a jamming lag when notification panel goes back up.
>Random lags when moving about homscreen pages.
> lag in settings sections when entering each settings item.
- I personally dont like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". The combined was much better. Even in the split form, there is design inconsistency, for example in the switch panel there is lot of free empty space on the bottom half and there is no point in having a slide down arrow to reveal just one row of switches. Furthermore it would have made sense to have the switches fill the bottom half, as it makes it easier for one hand usage. But i still prefer the the combined form which just two rows of switches and brightness option, while the rest hidden under the slide down.
- Thankfully the weather 4x2 widget is proper size, compared to the huge size on B506 and B014. But the transparent clock widget (first introduced on Honor 3c & 3x) is not yet available on this rom.
- The video player app is missing (and like others mentioned, the permission and startup apps manager, one hand option and navigation bar hiding option is missing too)
- I was hoping for changes in the "customize" section of the theme changer app. The old problem of swiping right/left a lot to get to the end of the lockscreen styles, or icons types, etc remains a burden.
- As someone said, its time to change the grey color of navigation bar. Either allow users to customize it, or have a number of colors that changes according to apps.
- In contacts "favorite" section, there is Chinese fonts.
- I don't think there is a need to have all the google apps pre-installed. Just a couple of them would be enough, while the rest can be downloaded from playstore.
- The water mark option in camera is nice. Cant find the "Cheeze" to take pics option. The photo editor is great and fun too. Video recorded on camera comes out dark. In case of taking selfie pics, once you hit the shoot button, the screen weirdly gets all yellow before taking the pic. Photos looks grainy too. But im no expert on camera, so i could be wrong.
- The Chinese rom had an app center app, and at times the latest version of the Huawei apps would be available on that. Such app updates are not available on this rom.
- The types of transition effects for homescreen keeps decreasing with every new rom update, when instead we should be getting newer ones added.
- The homescreen icons on this rom appear slightly bigger compared to them on the Chinese rom. Can be noticed when applying emui2.0 theme icons on this emui2.3 launcher.

Good and bad in B510
Good
- Magazine lockscreen is really good. I like it, hope more themes are like that.
- I like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". But I hope they could have a setting to enable/disable it.
- Floating apps are awesome.
- Torch in notifications is very useful.
- Ultra power saving mode changes UI to dark black --> seems convincing that it will save battery life. Overall this rom has decent battery life.
- External SD settings
Bad
- Just hope that when I use other music players it can get the controls on the lock screen. Also, if there was a music slider to skip a few seconds of music was available on lockscreen that would be good.
- Hope that the default launcher could have a drawer. Having all the apps on the screen is messy.
- The radio widget still isn't transparent while the other huawei widgets are. It stands out and looks ugly.
- No permissions manager. It blocks facebook chatheads by default because it draws over other apps. No way to unblock it because permission settings are missing.
- The grey color of navigation bar is horrendous. Hopefully they notice this and they make it black or able to customize.
- Camera pictures look grainy.
- GPS still sucks. Don't know if it is a hardware issue.
- No ART mode
Other
- I don't know what to think about the carrier name. I feel like it's ok, don't hate it or like it.

The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.

miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

bokchoi2020 said:
At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk
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I know, right? It's awesome having it back! [emoji16]
I'm also glad that the day of the week is back in the notification panel.

miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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The carrier name it's something new for this update. And everything else it's really just a matter of opinion. The most important thing is that this ROM must run smooth and fast without any lag when it will be released as official/final. Everything else is just customization that can be added or removed by rooting and installing third party apps.

Also noticed, my phone is really hot, even for simple use. And the battery is really bad on this rom.
BB

Screen off memo

Hi, every time I write a screen off memo it will not show on the AOD screen. Instead will go directly into a icon. If I tap twice the icon will appear for a brief time and then go back as icon.
The time it will stay on the screen will not be combined with the date/time.
Anyone has the same? Is it a problem of the settings or csc?
Tks

cristy78 said:
Hi, every time I write a screen off memo it will not show on the AOD screen. Instead will go directly into a icon. If I tap twice the icon will appear for a brief time and then go back as icon.
The time it will stay on the screen will not be combined with the date/time.
Anyone has the same? Is it a problem of the settings or csc?
Tks
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Yes, same here - direct to icon. I saw review videos where the screen off memo actually remains on the display along with the always-on screen. I tried every combination (i think) of always-on display and lockscreen notification settings, but never found a way to get it to stay.
On those same videos, by the way, the main settings screen looked very much like the one of the Note 5 and not at all like Grace UX, which is what i have. So i wonder if there are different software versions out there with some serious differences.

Maybe csc related ? mine is XSG.

remiotte said:
Yes, same here - direct to icon. I saw review videos where the screen off memo actually remains on the display along with the always-on screen. I tried every combination (i think) of always-on display and lockscreen notification settings, but never found a way to get it to stay.
On those same videos, by the way, the main settings screen looked very much like the one of the Note 5 and not at all like Grace UX, which is what i have. So i wonder if there are different software versions out there with some serious differences.
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If you go into the always on display settings and then about it should show you an update is available. After this is downloaded it is now working correctly.
Not sure why this did not ship on the phone or they make the update more obvious.

Pin it when writing
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CBeckstrand said:
If you go into the always on display settings and then about it should show you an update is available. After this is downloaded it is now working correctly.
Not sure why this did not ship on the phone or they make the update more obvious.
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I didn't get an update prompt, but this helped me. I opened galaxy apps and looked for updates there. sure enough, there was, and installing it fixed it. All good now!

mysteryman69 said:
I didn't get an update prompt, but this helped me. I opened galaxy apps and looked for updates there. sure enough, there was, and installing it fixed it. All good now!
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i didn't check that, but Galaxy App pushed an update of Always-on Display yesterday, and indeed now it works the way it should

Thanks. Update worked. I was wondering why it wasn't working.

New update with april security patch recieved

I have recieved new update with April security patch.... Doesnt say much else

I can confirm this too. I've got the update. April secruity patch but nothing more. I thought it would be a fix for the overlapping navigation bar and icon dock on the home screen, but that's no go too.
Well, at least Huawei is pushing updates!

Me too
shreenit said:
I can confirm this too. I've got the update. April secruity patch but nothing more. I thought it would be a fix for the overlapping navigation bar and icon dock on the home screen, but that's no go too.
Well, at least Huawei is pushing updates!
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I can confirm that I received it too today.
As for your nav-bar issue, for me I just went for factory reset and the overlapping issue was solved, but that was the hard way.
I read here that if you fiddle with the resolution (as far as I recall, set it to WQHD [default] and then come back to your preferred resolution, or else just turn on smart resolution and turn it off again, or if you're using WQHD already, choose a different resolution and then come back to it again- something of these sorts) you can fix it the easy way. I personally haven't tried though of course. I couldn't find the thread link to post here. Sorry. :/

Android pie begins rolling out for the s9(official release not beta).Who's got it?

Android pie has started rolling out officialy to the s9 in Germany and some other countries https://www.technobuffalo.com/2018/...lease/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter.

Up and running from NL

Installed the German pie here in Sweden.
Running Good.
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I've got it. So far, it's been sluggish, all of the updated apps are taking longer to load. Should I try clearing data of all those apps?
My own personal phone is starting to feel faster than the S9 in my house now.

SirGarmaples said:
I've got it. So far, it's been sluggish, all of the updated apps are taking longer to load. Should I try clearing data of all those apps?
My own personal phone is starting to feel faster than the S9 in my house now.
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Give it a go or do a reboot I had the beta installed and found it quite snappy but didn't like the ui so I am just going to use nova launcher when I update to it.

cokey77 said:
Give it a go or do a reboot I had the beta installed and found it quite snappy but didn't like the ui so I am just going to use nova launcher when I update to it.
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Well, so far so good. The only negative thing I can say about this release, which may improve over updates, is that Samsung's apps just seem to take maybe around a second more to load.
The dark mode and the adjustments all over the UI for one-hand operation overshadow this one small complaint.

My wife's phone received a 404mb download last night. I'm guessing this isn't it? The official
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I have it here in the UK. So much better than Oreo. Snappy and the UI so much better

Can anyone tell me how to have the navigation bar hiden in apps like Facebook or Instagram or Whatsapp? It's something I really miss from Android 8

plantunes said:
Can anyone tell me how to have the navigation bar hiden in apps like Facebook or Instagram or Whatsapp? It's something I really miss from Android 8
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Switch it to gestures from the quick settings dropdown or from settings > display > nav bar
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hayabusa1300cc said:
My wife's phone received a 404mb download last night. I'm guessing this isn't it? The official
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Surely you could tell by looking at her phone? It's a lot different to Oreo and it says Android 9 in phone info....
But no probably not, it will be around 1.7GB

Ok cool, she has received at least 5 beta beta updates. Lucky her. On note 9 we only have 3 so far.
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Switch it to gestures from the quick settings dropdown or from settings > display > nav bar
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Surely you could tell by looking at her phone? It's a lot different to Oreo and it says Android 9 in phone info....
But no probably not, it will be around 1.7GB
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I also updated from Oreo to Pie and was running substratum with sungstrum plugin. I deleted all the themes and cleared all caches and restarted before upgrading to Pie. When upgraded it was all fine but when switching to dark mode all my system apps went berserk and started force closing. Switching back to light mode solved that problem. But apparently there where still files from substratum conflicting with the dark theme. So I had to reset to factory settings and after that the problem was entirely gone. So maybe this is a heads up for some one else before upgrading.
The first drawback I encountered is the app drawer. When trying to move app icons to the bottom part of the screen it sets it automatically back to the top position. I find this very strange given the fact that Samsung wanted to let us use the bottom part of the screen more than the top part. Now I still have to reach to the top part of my screen. Not very "one handed" friendly. I use my icons in groups maybe that has something to do with it.
For now I still have to discover the upgrade more, but it looks promising for now. Its fast and the UI is smooth as butter.

Bometdebanjo said:
I also updated from Oreo to Pie and was running substratum with sungstrum plugin. I deleted all the themes and cleared all caches and restarted before upgrading to Pie. When upgraded it was all fine but when switching to dark mode all my system apps went berserk and started force closing. Switching back to light mode solved that problem. But apparently there where still files from substratum conflicting with the dark theme. So I had to reset to factory settings and after that the problem was entirely gone. So maybe this is a heads up for some one else before upgrading.
The first drawback I encountered is the app drawer. When trying to move app icons to the bottom part of the screen it sets it automatically back to the top position. I find this very strange given the fact that Samsung wanted to let us use the bottom part of the screen more than the top part. Now I still have to reach to the top part of my screen. Not very "one handed" friendly. I use my icons in groups maybe that has something to do with it.
For now I still have to discover the upgrade more, but it looks promising for now. Its fast and the UI is smooth as butter.
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You can set the apps you want to use in the bottom in home screen, not in the app drawer... That's a reason why there's a home screen in Android...

jamil aboudaher said:
You can set the apps you want to use in the bottom in home screen, not in the app drawer... That's a reason why there's a home screen in Android...
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I don't want any stuff on my homescreen. I always use the app drawer to open up my apps. But I want to rearrange them on a spot I choose. Not was has been chosen by the system itself.

Bometdebanjo said:
I don't want any stuff on my homescreen. I always use the app drawer to open up my apps. But I want to rearrange them on a spot I choose. Not was has been chosen by the system itself.
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If they make the app drawer as you wanted to, the app drawer and the home screen will be the same thing... If you wanted a clean home screen, you can make the default page clean and put your apps on other pages

hayabusa1300cc said:
Ok cool, she has received at least 5 beta beta updates. Lucky her. On note 9 we only have 3 so far.
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If she's already on Pie beta the final update to the stable version will only be small, if she's on Oreo it will be 1.7GB~
Beta is finished now so chances are she's either on the last beta or final already, check if the members app opens the full app or the beta OneUI part

A70 auto update /

Hi.
Is it possible - if so how to disable automatic software updates?
I don't want to update, checking is turned off in administrator settings, but notifications are still popping up.
Only I can minimize for a maximum of 2 hours.
I don't have root, I want a guarantee.
In the application settings the "software update" option is gray, I cannot turn it off

agdsfhju123 said:
Hi.
Is it possible - if so how to disable automatic software updates?
I don't want to update, checking is turned off in administrator settings, but notifications are still popping up.
Only I can minimize for a maximum of 2 hours.
I don't have root, I want a guarantee.
In the application settings the "software update" option is gray, I cannot turn it off
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You can't stop Samsung from sending updates, you can only turn off the automatic download of them. Try hiding the notification by doing a long press on it and choosing to hide it.
Also, why don't you want to update?

I can only minimize for 2 hours.
It is not possible to disable the application in gray via a computer?
I do not want to update because after the last update it is not possible to set smaller icons.
With security from 07.2019 you can still set other values ​​in DPI and icons change.
with this last update this option is gone.
font, appearance changes, while icons remain the same.

agdsfhju123 said:
I can only minimize for 2 hours.
It is not possible to disable the application in gray via a computer?
I do not want to update because after the last update it is not possible to set smaller icons.
With security from 07.2019 you can still set other values ​​in DPI and icons change.
with this last update this option is gone.
font, appearance changes, while icons remain the same.
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I think updates are important, especially since this device still has many bugs. But, if you want to turn them off, then I think you can disable the whole thing through powershell on the computer.

agdsfhju123 said:
I can only minimize for 2 hours.
It is not possible to disable the application in gray via a computer?
I do not want to update because after the last update it is not possible to set smaller icons.
With security from 07.2019 you can still set other values ​​in DPI and icons change.
with this last update this option is gone.
font, appearance changes, while icons remain the same.
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Change your launcher. I said this in your last thread. Don't go trying to block critical updates when the answer is just use a different launcher.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher

James.Miller said:
Change your launcher. I said this in your last thread. Don't go trying to block critical updates when the answer is just use a different launcher.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
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I want to keep the current screen / icon / menu appearance. I don't want launchers.
I didn't notice bugs on the xeo version.
Why do you think updating your system is so important? (apart from minor corrections, e.g. fingerprint)

SniperLolz said:
I think updates are important, especially since this device still has many bugs. But, if you want to turn them off, then I think you can disable the whole thing through powershell on the computer.
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Is there any tutorial on the forum on how to disable system applications?

agdsfhju123 said:
I want to keep the current screen / icon / menu appearance. I don't want launchers.
I didn't notice bugs on the xeo version.
Why do you think updating your system is so important? (apart from minor corrections, e.g. fingerprint)
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Security updates are critical. Lauchers only change your home screens and app drawer and can be made to look virtually identical to samsungs one UI launcher, but better and more customisable. Some of them, like the one I linked, even allow you to import layouts from other launchers including Samsung's making the move from the oneUI launcher to a different one an absolute piece of cake. Why would you rather block system updates and mess around with system apps when you can just change the launcher? It makes no sense at all - there's nothing Samsung's launcher does that isn't done better by others.