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Question Will T-Mobile carry the new Pixels?

Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.

94b20gsr said:
Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.
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Agree, that makes two of us in the same T-Mobile/OnePlus 9 Pro boat!

94b20gsr said:
Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.
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I'm in the same bout. Il be treating my 9p as well. It was a true disappointment, especially in the batty department

Stopped by a local store today, they will definitely stock the devices. They estimated the deals (Trade-in or other) would be available to store employees on Thursday evening or Friday morning.

So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?

aviatordoc said:
So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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Yep, they will.

aviatordoc said:
So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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Yes, it should be bloated big time....

Saw the preorder availability on the T-Mobile site. Can't decide if I want to just order unlocked from Google or go thru TMobile. This is the hardest decision!

If you look at the news postings you will find an article on where to get the best deals on the Pixel 6. It has links to T-mobile's site, so I guess it is already up. There are some deals available, with Magenta Max IIRC. It also can be bought from Best Buy (unlocked) and of course Google (free Bose earbuds).
I don't want any phone that doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. While there may be great deals on the 6 from T-mobile I simply wouldn't put up with the crapware that is included, as well as the poor after sale firmware support. It seems to me one of the best reasons for a Pixel is to get regular security and OS updates direct from Google, when first released. It may be that the TM 6 can get security updates direct from Google - I don't know as that has been developing. And there may be a way to unlock the bootloader, which would allow installing a North American unlocked firmware. But if not both then I would buy direct. FWIW I just bought a 5a from Google and am downloading 12 right now.

I'll probably JOD! my 4a 5G for the Pixel 6 as I have the Pixel 6 Pro on pre-order from Google.
What colorway are people most interested in?

Ended up buying the black 256GB from Google directly after seeing my OnePlus 9 Pro wasn't even listed on the trade-in deals and even if it was I'm not changing my plan just for that. Not to mention they are only stocking the 128GB.

People need to be careful where they're ordering from as there is currently a lot of confusion with the 5g bands for the 6 pro. The google support page shows sub-6 missing but according to the Cnet article below most of the other carriers have confirmed that their version will have all the 5g bands that they'll be selling. I've decided to hold off until t-mobile clarifies what their 6 pro will cover compared to the unlocked version before I pull the trigger.
Will Google's Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro work with 5G? The answer is complicated
Google's new Pixel phones have a lot of promise, but also plenty of unanswered questions about 5G support.
www.cnet.com

dj24 said:
People need to be careful where they're ordering from as there is currently a lot of confusion with the 5g bands for the 6 pro. The google support page shows sub-6 missing but according to the Cnet article below most of the other carriers have confirmed that their version will have all the 5g bands that they'll be selling. I've decided to hold off until t-mobile clarifies what their 6 pro will cover compared to the unlocked version before I pull the trigger.
Will Google's Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro work with 5G? The answer is complicated
Google's new Pixel phones have a lot of promise, but also plenty of unanswered questions about 5G support.
www.cnet.com
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This is a non-issue. That page merely omitted the listed of sub-6. Here is a snippet from another Google support page showing what is covered by model. There won't be a new phone like this released without 5G compatibility as it would make no sense, especially given newer modems cover almost all the required bands without any add-on's other than mmWave. Here is the page and shows carrier by carrier compatability:
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aviatordoc said:
So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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Just curious...I've been buying my Pixels directly from Google for convenience, because I always prefer max internal storage and carriers don't always offer those.
This year, I wanted to make sure I got the 512 GB model.
Back in 2014, TMobile was running one of those promos where they offered to buy out your contract if you tried them out. They also had the Nexus 6 available for sale, so I decided to give them a shot.
At the time, the Nexus 6 was in high demand, and Tmobile shipped mine the next day. They also tweeted that their Nexus didn't come with all that carrier bloat, poking fun at AT&T.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/536580024997249024
From what I remember, my Tmobile Nexus 6 64 GB was identical to ones shipped from Google.
I am a Sprint/Tmobile customer and have considered buying through my carrier to get a better deal, but go through Google to insure it is bootloader unlockable and unbloated.
Question: Does Tmobile add bloat/carrier apps to most of their Android devices?
I was just curious because of their stance on the Nexus 6 in 2014, but, of course that was 7 years ago and things change.

The (unlocked) 5a works fine on T-Mobile 5G. It does not support mmWave but that is not very useful for mobile applications anyway (mmWave doesn't have much range and doesn't penetrate walls well). If you are buying a MiFi then you would want mmWave if there is a tower close by. What you are losing is that you won't get the extremely high bandwidth when using the phone as a hotspot, but since there are only a handful of cities with this band available that is more theoretical at this point. BTW I am getting better 5G coverage than 4G LTE in my marina - TM put 5G on a nearby tower that they hadn't been using before. TM 5G is widely available, although not really much faster than 4G LTE.
Even if TM doesn't add bloatware (I'm not sure) it is still locked and probably not going to get the updates as often as the unlocked phone. Google has been working on bypassing the networks and directly upgrading phones but don't know if we are there yet.

Tmo is only carrying the 128gb variant...I pre-ordered the unlocked version from Google.

diesteldorf said:
Just curious...I've been buying my Pixels directly from Google for convenience, because I always prefer max internal storage.
I am a Sprint/Tmobile customer and have considered buying through my carrier to get a better deal, but go through Google to insure it is bootloader unlockable and unbloated.
Question: Does Tmobile add bloat/carrier apps to most of their Android devices?
I was just curious because of their stance on the Nexus 6 in 2014, but, of course that was 7 years ago and things change.
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As you stated, that was then, when John Legere was just beginning the "Uncarrier" hype. I enjoyed the ride, but, now that the ultimate goal has been achieved (merger/acquisition), T-Mobile has been gradually backsliding, the Uncarrier has one foot out the door.
Count on T-Mobile bloatware being pre-installed & not all of it can be uninstalled &/or disabled.
The T-Mobile system apk for diagnostics can have the permissions denied, but, it's the one apk that can't be disabled, even w/an ADB command, or, app freezer.
If you're wanting to root/ROM, I'd steer clear of the T-Mobile branded Pixel 6/Pro.
If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........

KOLIOSIS said:
If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........
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I suspect that a TMO 5a or 6xxx can be flashed with the U.S. unlocked firmware, after having been SIM unlocked and then bootloader unlocked. But until someone does it I would consider this a risky proposition, and not worth doing considering that it is easy to buy an unlocked pixel and we know how to root it.

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I suspect that a TMO 5a or 6xxx can be flashed with the U.S. unlocked firmware, after having been SIM unlocked and then bootloader unlocked. But until someone does it I would consider this a risky proposition, and not worth doing considering that it is easy to buy an unlocked pixel and we know how to root it.
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I hope so. I'm getting the T-Mobile Pixel 6 Pro.
We'll know soon enough, I'll definitely be following this thread & any how-to threads for B/L unlocking.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but, definitely prefer the option to flash unlocked firmware, akin to doing the same w/T-Mobile OnePlus devices........

KOLIOSIS said:
I hope so. I'm getting the T-Mobile Pixel 6 Pro.
We'll know soon enough, I'll definitely be following this thread & any how-to threads for B/L unlocking.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but, definitely prefer the option to flash unlocked firmware, akin to doing the same w/T-Mobile OnePlus devices........
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As you stated, that was then, when John Legere was just beginning the "Uncarrier" hype. I enjoyed the ride, but, now that the ultimate goal has been achieved (merger/acquisition), T-Mobile has been gradually backsliding, the Uncarrier has one foot out the door.
Count on T-Mobile bloatware being pre-installed & not all of it can be uninstalled &/or disabled.
The T-Mobile system apk for diagnostics can have the permissions denied, but, it's the one apk that can't be disabled, even w/an ADB command, or, app freezer.
If you're wanting to root/ROM, I'd steer clear of the T-Mobile branded Pixel 6/Pro.
If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........
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Thanks for posting and confirming what I was already suspecting. 7 years ago, Tmobile was the dark horse that was working to be seen as a legitimate alternative to the big 3. Former Sprint execs have even admitted they didn't consider T-Mobile to be true competition, compared to Verizon and AT&T.
I can't complain too much. I've have some Tmobile stock that has appreciated quite nicely over the years, and the old "uncarrier" initiatives and increased competition forced carriers like Verizon to allow 3rd-pary unlocked devices to run on their network, yet Tmobile Tuesday "gifts" are also not nearly as generous.
Hoping you can clarify something you mentioned earlier. You said Tmobile phones come with a diagnostic app that can't be removed or disabled. Does that mean that you could use the phone on Verizon/AT&T and still have a Tmobile app unable to be uninstalled, potentially collecting data?
I'm assuming if the the bootloader can be unlocked and rooted that any app can be disabled, but, as you stated, having a Tmobile variant no longer guarantees unbranding and bootloader unlockability.
Some people don't differentiate between whether a phone can be sim unlocked (to use on different carriers) or bootloader unlocked (to root or run custom firmware). That's not a huge deal for most people, but it gives me pause if I was buying a device on the secondary market, like Swappa.
The only way for a buyer to be sure they are getting a bootloader unlockable device is to ask the buyer where they purchased it from. To be fair, Androiid is more polished and no loner requires root to copy and paste or take screen shots, but I still like having the extra freedom and control to install my own updates.
In the future, if Tmobile ever gets all variants of the Pixel, including the 512 GB or 1 TB versions, with fantastic trade-in offers, it may make my decision more difficult, but I like being able to buy my devices directly from the manufacturers, especially for warranty situations, and use the carriers specifically for phone service.

Question Will the Verizon or AT&T 6 Pro models be unlocked?

I've been buying unlocked phones for years and I can't remember the last time I bought from a carrier. But I can get a 6 Pro 256GB from one of those carriers for $500 through work so I'm thinking I might try.
I guess the other thing I'd ask is if they've clarified if the Google-direct 6 Pro will support mm-wave/UWB 5G?

I guess my Google-fu was weak today. Seems the jury is stil out on the locked part, but likely locked and par for the course.
Found a doc that clarifies the 5G confusion here, too.

We need someone with Verizon or AT&T version to check if OEM Unlocking is available or greyed out.

vettejock99 said:
I've been buying unlocked phones for years and I can't remember the last time I bought from a carrier. But I can get a 6 Pro 256GB from one of those carriers for $500 through work so I'm thinking I might try.
I guess the other thing I'd ask is if they've clarified if the Google-direct 6 Pro will support mm-wave/UWB 5G?
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Not sure about AT&T, but you buy a device from VZW, the bootloader is locked forever.
Not only that, if you buy a device from the manufacturer (Google P6P) that VZW carries, you will not be able to ensure that device through VZW, and you'll lose done VZW specific features like free 25gb cloud.
Might have changed over the last few years, but the way VZW is, I doubt it.
Call VZW customer service and straight out ask what happens, what account features do you lose, if you buy a P6P directly from Google, and add it to your VZW account.
I'll keep a 4 yr old device before I buy from a carrier again!

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So now we're sure Verizon is locked, what about AT&T? Can anyone help here?

Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.

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Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.
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Ugh. Thanks for posting this. Have you paid it off and gotten it carrier unlocked? Because I was 90% sure it would allow you to unlock the bootloader then.

Or, set up off line, with no active SIM, and unlockable.

I tried offline setup and it first tells you it needs cellular or wifi to verify something. Then after connecting to wifi it says it can't be unlocked. Tried this on a 256gb p6p Verizon

AT&T is bootloader locked. I returned it and got an unlocked one from Best Buy.

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AT&T is bootloader locked. I returned it and got an unlocked one from Best Buy.
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Sorry if lot sounds like I'm being too specific on this, but did you fully pay off the phone and ask AT&T to unlock it? I'm sure the bootloader is locked at first, but they've always allowed phones to be unblocked and that to the best of my knowledge. And they have to carrier unlock it before you'd be able to bootloader unlock it.
On the offline note, I'm pretty sure there's a way around that offline. In some cases, I bring it was earlier Samsung Galaxy phones, your had to tap a hidden white hotspot area on the instruction screen several times and it would move forward offline. Just FWIW.

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I tried offline setup and it first tells you it needs cellular or wifi to verify something. Then after connecting to wifi it says it can't be unlocked. Tried this on a 256gb p6p Verizon
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Thanks. Hopefully there's still a way per my message above.

vettejock99 said:
Sorry if lot sounds like I'm being too specific on this, but did you fully pay off the phone and ask AT&T to unlock it? I'm sure the bootloader is locked at first, but they've always allowed phones to be unblocked and that to the best of my knowledge. And they have to carrier unlock it before you'd be able to bootloader unlock it.
On the offline note, I'm pretty sure there's a way around that offline. In some cases, I bring it was earlier Samsung Galaxy phones, your had to tap a hidden white hotspot area on the instruction screen several times and it would move forward offline. Just FWIW.
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I didn't. It was easier to just return it and go to Best Buy. No hassle.

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Thanks. Hopefully there's still a way per my message above.
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Sorry for the confusion I was able to reach the home screen in offline setup mode. What I was referring to is using the offline trick to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately I was unable to unlock it even with the offline setup. Sigh I probably have to get an unlocked model if I want to root. Using vzw was the cheapest route for me. This was on a Verizon p6p

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Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.
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Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?

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Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?
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That's what I was wondering too.

DragohD said:
Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?
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What do you mean exactly?

bobby janow said:
What do you mean exactly?
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Well in the screenshot, it says "unavailable on carrier-locked devices" underneath the OEM unlocking toggle, so instead of having to go through AT&T to get it sim unlocked, what if you use a 3rd party paid service to sim unlock the device? would that allow you to also unlock the bootloader? And if so, would it work for the other carrier variants too?

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Well in the screenshot, it says "unavailable on carrier-locked devices" underneath the OEM unlocking toggle, so instead of having to go through AT&T to get it sim unlocked, what if you use a 3rd party paid service to sim unlock the device? would that allow you to also unlock the bootloader? And if so, would it work for the other carrier variants too?
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Oh I see. I believe that's outside the purview of this forum since 3rd party paid services are frowned upon. So you're pretty much on your own there.

Question Has anyone got 5G working on unlisted country (rooted module is welcome)????

I read other and find some comment able to enable VoLTE but not 5G.
Some said that they have tried the older way which worked on older device but it seem don't work on Pixel 6 Pro anymore.
They assume that this is because google use their new tensor chip not the Qualcomm one.
Until now I can't find the solution for enable 5g for unlisted country. Please help me find that .
**I know and can accept that rooted is required.**

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+4 for me, anyhow has you guys found workable for volte but not 5g. or it is still both not working?

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I hope we find a way to get it without root all i need just VoLTE

What do you mean with "unlisted country"? It's your carriers choice whether or not he activates VoLTE/5G and whether or not he supports your phone, so why not talk to your carrier why they don't support the new P6?

It's working here in Norway. The speeds are about 50% of the phones sold officially.

Morgrain said:
What do you mean with "unlisted country"? It's your carriers choice whether or not he activates VoLTE/5G and whether or not he supports your phone, so why not talk to your carrier why they don't support the new P6?
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No, google blocks 5G and volte in unsupported countries, i.e. countries where it is not officially sold, e.g. Czech Republic, Finland, Poland, Croatia etc.,

Krasendo said:
No, google blocks 5G and volte in unsupported countries, i.e. countries where it is not officially sold, e.g. Czech Republic, Finland, Poland, Croatia etc.,
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Well, the man over you just said that it works in Norway, and Google doesn't sell the Pixel 6 in Norway*. So what you say can't be true. So either the man over you is lying, or it's indeed a carrier issue and not a Google one.
*at least according to googles official Support Site listing the countries where Google sells their new phones & a quick Google search I did
-> https://newsbeezer.com/norwayeng/pixel-6-is-not-coming-to-norway/

Morgrain said:
Well, the man over you just said that it works in Norway, and Google doesn't sell the Pixel 6 in Norway. So what you say can't be true. So either the man over you is lying, or it's indeed a carrier issue and not a Google one.
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These are supported countries in Europe, I mistook Finland which is supported but they currently don't sell the Pixel 6/pro there as well as Norway. If you still don't believe it google "5G not supported in countries not supported by google", that's why for earlier models you had to install special modules with root to activate

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These are supported countries in Europe, I mistook Finland which is supported but they currently don't sell the Pixel 6/pro there as well as Norway. If you still don't believe it google "5G not supported in countries not supported by google", that's why for earlier models you had to install special modules with root to activate
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Interesting, so Google does make a differentiation between selling & supporting, that wasn't clear from the previous conversation.

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No hope for non root option. The older device still needed to be rooted.
Morgrain said:
What do you mean with "unlisted country"? It's your carriers choice whether or not he activates VoLTE/5G and whether or not he supports your phone, so why not talk to your carrier why they don't support the new P6?
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It's not carriers option, it definitely because of Google restricted by software. Pixel 5 do support 5G in Thailand (according to the spec sheet) but you cannot use it even though carriers let you able to. However, right after root and install module, 5G work fine. So that mean the only problem is Google software.
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Interesting, so Google does make a differentiation between selling & supporting, that wasn't clear from the previous conversation.
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This is just my assumption:
I think it like all selling country will be fully supported.
For the rest, some countries are supported by somehow.
The other countries, without root, definitely NO.
So in the thread, I find that google change to use 5G modem from Samsung not Qualcomm as the older device.
Also, if I correct it is the same modem with S20 series.
So really hope there is someone able to modify that to make the Pixel 6 Pro able to use 5G without Google's stupid restrictions.

Aiples said:
No hope for non root option. The older device still needed to be rooted.
It's not carriers option, it definitely becau
So in the thread, I find that google change to use 5G modem from Samsung not Qualcomm as the older device.
Also, if I correct it is the same modem with S20 series.
So really hope there is someone able to modify that to make the Pixel 6 Pro able to use 5G without Google's stupid restriction
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Mine is now rooted and got volte and vowifi working fine with Magisk module but cannot get 5G working. As mentioned above it is Google stopping it in their settings. We have three networks in Ireland and Google support two but not the third (who use Huawei 5G tech!). Root will be essential I'd say to add the settings for the restricted networks. So much for paying full price for an unlocked phone...
It used to be easier to change the modems mbn settings with Qualcomm but does not work with Pixel 6 modem which I hope someone more clever than me can help with!

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Well maybe they do. But people travel, don't they. And depending on where they travel they might use different SIM cards. So even when I bough a Pixel in an "officially supported country" (like France), I might travel to Netherlands and use a Dutch SIM card ... then suddenly I would only get half baked support? That just does not sound right.

foobar66 said:
Well maybe they do. But people travel, don't they. And depending on where they travel they might use different SIM cards. So even when I bough a Pixel in an "officially supported country" (like France), I might travel to Netherlands and use a Dutch SIM card ... then suddenly I would only get half baked support? That just does not sound right.
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Well, that's how it always has been with Software features, they are locked, usually for legal reasons.
I've read so many discussions over the years from US soldiers stationed in Europe and their constant struggle to get Home Television/Sports, Google/Streaming Services and other services working, that it's not even surprising me any more to hear of this (some services offer workarounds, but ONLY if you have a US address+citizenship - so many of those soldiers had to order stuff to their families back home, had them open the packages, transcript and send them the codes they needed and then they had a solution, even though only few companies offer such a solution). It's not a Google problem, it's an industry problem of licenses and laws. I remember a discussion on reddit where a businessman flamed Google hard for disabling his Automatic Call Screening whenever he flew to a country that didn't support it - which back then equalled 98% of the planet, except the USA, lel.
In the end Google, of course, didn't - or couldn't - care and his problem was not solved.

EGGMEN said:
Mine is now rooted and got volte and vowifi working fine with Magisk module but cannot get 5G working. As mentioned above it is Google stopping it in their settings. We have three networks in Ireland and Google support two but not the third (who use Huawei 5G tech!). Root will be essential I'd say to add the settings for the restricted networks. So much for paying full price for an unlocked phone...
It used to be easier to change the modems mbn settings with Qualcomm but does not work with Pixel 6 modem which I hope someone more clever than me can help with!
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This is the only thing that holding me back to buy flagship pixel, volte which is 10 years old technology still locked for most countries, and they make it hard to unlock them (im still having trouble enabling them on my 4 xl), and 5g, lte+ feature. Why would we pay flagship price but couldnt get this important feature. Was thinking buying oneplus until then.

EGGMEN said:
Mine is now rooted and got volte and vowifi working fine with Magisk module but cannot get 5G working. As mentioned above it is Google stopping it in their settings. We have three networks in Ireland and Google support two but not the third (who use Huawei 5G tech!). Root will be essential I'd say to add the settings for the restricted networks. So much for paying full price for an unlocked phone...
It used to be easier to change the modems mbn settings with Qualcomm but does not work with Pixel 6 modem which I hope someone more clever than me can help with!
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Hmm ... Google and Huawei ... that does not sound like a happy marriage ;-)
But you are right, why can Google not do what all other manufacturers can.

Krasendo said:
No, google blocks 5G and volte in unsupported countries, i.e. countries where it is not officially sold, e.g. Czech Republic, Finland, Poland, Croatia etc.,
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Why would they that would mean legit customers who visit those countries can't access it

Question No 5G on non Google approved carrier

Greetings!
I wonder if someone have researched if it is even possible to get 5G with carrier not on Google's list? Carrier for sure supports 5g bands supported by pixel 6.
Thanks

I've got no 5G either but works fine on my other phone and mobile router

andriy2011 said:
Greetings!
I wonder if someone have researched if it is even possible to get 5G with carrier not on Google's list? Carrier for sure supports 5g bands supported by pixel 6.
Thanks
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Hi. Have you referenced this page?

roirraW edor ehT said:
Hi. Have you referenced this page?
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The link is wrong....

cmh714 said:
The link is wrong....
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Indeed! Whoops! Thank you. Edited my post.

You have to be on a mobile plan that supports 5G, not all plans support 5G because they want to charge you more to use it, or cap it or all the above.
Example from AU google approved provider, one plan now only supports 4G was only the top 2 previously when the phone launched.
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I think Google really dont care about EU, in my country Denmark we dont have sub-6 but only mmWave, meaning my Pixel 6 Pro will never get 5g connection, kinda wierd to save some $ in the modem in EU models and not just give people both sub-6 and mmWave.
If i buy a model in the US there is 2 issues, 6+ months shipping and tax and customs making this phone close to 200% more expensive, and almost hitting the most expensive iPhone 13 pro max model.
And by that time i already have another phone.

danw_oz said:
You have to be on a mobile plan that supports 5G, not all plans support 5G because they want to charge you more to use it, or cap it or all the above.
Example from AU google approved provider, one plan now only supports 4G was only the top 2 previously when the phone launched.
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wow, those are some expensive plans. Do you not have anything unlimited? I pay about 25 us dollars in croatia for unlimited with 5g(phone cant support it though)

clipdawg05 said:
wow, those are some expensive plans. Do you not have anything unlimited? I pay about 25 us dollars in croatia for unlimited with 5g(phone cant support it though)
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Lol, its called Australia tax what we pay for everything here. No only home internet plans are unlimited, and those start at $69 per month.

Android-Desire said:
I think Google really dont care about EU, in my country Denmark we dont have sub-6 but only mmWave, meaning my Pixel 6 Pro will never get 5g connection, kinda wierd to save some $ in the modem in EU models and not just give people both sub-6 and mmWave.
If i buy a model in the US there is 2 issues, 6+ months shipping and tax and customs making this phone close to 200% more expensive, and almost hitting the most expensive iPhone 13 pro max model.
And by that time i already have another phone.
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You sure about that ? Because Telenor, Telia and 3 should all support older Pixel phones with sub 6, and i know i saw somehwere on google pages that those 3 carriers were mentioned to support Pixel 6 phones as well.

I've just had feedback from my network today and yes its down to Google, absolutely useless company
Hi, at the moment we are working with Google to get this device added to our compatible list so this would be why you're facing this problem. We hope to have Google enable this as soon as possible, so we can keep you updated on this. We have found your webchat and your complaint so we will also assist through there where we can!
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Shipoftheline said:
I've just had feedback from my network today and yes its down to Google, absolutely useless company
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Google is so vain and seems to focus on nich market only.

Shipoftheline said:
I've just had feedback from my network today and yes its down to Google, absolutely useless company
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I find it hard to believe Google would impose this, not in their interest and too much time, and for what exactly what do they gain?
Read the post from @roirraW "edor" ehT in post 3 rather than posting partial fake news.
Yes it is down to google to decide which 5G they implement., there is a lot of controversy around this at the moment. I would be very certain google was aware of some of these 5G issues when they made the decision. One in particular as follows
Have you heard of aeronautical industry having issues with their instruments being seriously interfered with by some US carriers 5G implementations, bans now in place for many flights as a result.

danw_oz said:
I find it hard to believe Google would impose this, not in their interest and too much time, and for what exactly what do they gain?
Read the post from @roirraW "edor" ehT in post 3 rather than posting partial fake news.
Yes it is down to google to decide which 5G they implement., there is a lot of controversy around this at the moment. I would be very certain google was aware of some of these 5G issues when they made the decision. One in particular as follows
Have you heard of aeronautical industry having issues with their instruments being seriously interfered with by some US carriers 5G implementations, bans now in place for many flights as a result.
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Well I've read the same from other networks in the UK at least so wasn't shocked when two different people from my network told me

Android-Desire said:
I think Google really dont care about EU, in my country Denmark we dont have sub-6 but only mmWave, meaning my Pixel 6 Pro will never get 5g connection,
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Nice little screenshot of Googles page, that does not mean that the information there is true.
Infact i would have 0 trust when it comes to connectivtive issues and Google responces to it, i know for a fact that TDC have already sent google its Carrier settings multiple times over many years, but Google does not like our country so that config file on the firmware is empty, meaning that before you can even get a sms on the device you have to setup apn before it works, and you only get 2g 3g 4g from that, not mms which also is not there, LTE+ VoLTE VoWifi and 5g is all disabled in carrier config by google on all Danish networks/carriers.

Android-Desire said:
Nice little screenshot of Googles page, that does not mean that the information there is true.
Infact i would have 0 trust when it comes to connectivtive issues and Google responces to it, i know for a fact that TDC have already sent google its Carrier settings multiple times over many years, but Google does not like our country so that config file on the firmware is empty, meaning that before you can even get a sms on the device you have to setup apn before it works, and you only get 2g 3g 4g from that, not mms which also is not there, LTE+ VoLTE VoWifi and 5g is all disabled in carrier config by google on all Danish networks/carriers.
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The screenshot was not to prove anything works, the screen shot was to show you Denmark networks use Sub-6 not mmWave as you claim.

MrBelter said:
The screenshot was not to prove anything works, the screen shot was to show you Denmark networks use Sub-6 not mmWave as you claim.
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Again what Google says cant be trusted, if you believe them i feel bad for you.

Android-Desire said:
Again what Google says cant be trusted, if you believe them i feel bad for you.
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Please don't feel bad for me mate, i am not the one thinking Denmark exclusively uses mmWave

Question eSim on Chinese version with Oxygen OS?

Hello,
I'm a foreigner living in China and I'm very interested in the OP11. I noticed that the Chinese version doesn't mention the eSim on OP Chinese website, but that the international version has dual sim + eSim. To be fair I never see any Chinese version of phones with eSim.
I was wondering if once we switch the OP11 Chinese version to Oxygen OS, does the eSim is activated? Can you see it in the settings? Is that working?
Thanks in advance.

slayer03 said:
Hello,
I'm a foreigner living in China and I'm very interested in the OP11. I noticed that the Chinese version doesn't mention the eSim on OP Chinese website, but that the international version has dual sim + eSim. To be fair I never see any Chinese version of phones with eSim.
I was wondering if once we switch the OP11 Chinese version to Oxygen OS, does the eSim is activated? Can you see it in the settings? Is that working?
Thanks in advance.
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eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money. So even if you had the option on a converted unit, it probably won't work

XDRdaniel said:
eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money.
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Incorrect. It's built into the SoC now. They started it with Snapdragon 888 (and OnePlus didn't activate that one either).
Introducing Integrated SIM - The next generation of SIM technology
While mobile technology continues to advance at a breathtaking pace, security solutions must also evolve quickly to address increasing security challenges...
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Thanks for your reply guys. I guess we need to wait for more development on the OP11 to discover if the eSim can or cannot be activated.
I remember when I had the OP5, at that time it was only 1 hardware version of phone, but just the software that changed.

XDRdaniel said:
eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money. So even if you had the option on a converted unit, it probably won't work
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My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.

alexander宇 said:
My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.
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Thanks for your feedback. Do you still have Color OS or have you flashed to OxygenOS?

ColorOS

alexander宇 said:
My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.
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They've had this since at least the OnePlus 9. They never allowed anyone to actually use it for anything other than that stupid roaming though.
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EtherealRemnant said:
They've had this since at least the OnePlus 9. They never allowed anyone to actually use it for anything other than that stupid roaming though.
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As far as I know Chinese carriers haven't introduce eSim yet except for Apple watches, eSim would be of no use to most Chinese customers. At least the hardware is there, my guess is you will get fully functional eSim after converting to OxygenOS.

alexander宇 said:
As far as I know Chinese carriers haven't introduce eSim yet except for Apple watches, eSim would be of no use to most Chinese customers. At least the hardware is there, my guess is you will get fully functional eSim after converting to OxygenOS.
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Now that they have added eSIM support to US models, I would suspect that the software will activate it, but don't quote me on that, and also the process of converting regions is much more dangerous now that there is no MSM Tool available so people who plan to do this should also be prepared to have to fork out cash to have the phone repaired in case they brick it.

Plus, I forget which thread mentioned this- some US bands missing on Chinese versions

horsecharles said:
Plus, I forget which thread mentioned this- some US bands missing on Chinese versions
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yeah tmo's N71

alexander宇 said:
yeah tmo's N71
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More than that.
My post in another thread:
It's missing B71 as well as n71 and n25 which means poor performance on T-Mobile. It is likely missing 3.45GHz n77 as well because there's no reason to certify that on a Chinese device and T-Mobile is preparing to deploy that at the end of the year.
It's missing B13 which means no Verizon support. The omission of mmWave significantly impacts many larger Verizon markets too.
It's missing B14, B29, B30 as well as their 5G counterparts and likely is missing 3.45GHz n77 as well as mentioned above but unlike T-Mobile, AT&T has already been deploying this as a number of their markets they can't use the rest of their n77 holdings until 2024 (mine included).
Anyone buying these phones for US use will definitely experience problems.
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I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon

sunxutian said:
I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon
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Can you use eSim?

I am curious about this, too. Anyone flashed the Chinese version to global rom, and have esim can confirm?

kwokchun said:
I am curious about this, too. Anyone flashed the Chinese version to global rom, and have esim can confirm?
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Yes.
My mobile provider's app recognises that the phone supports eSIM but I haven't gone through the steps to test it actually works.
I can toggle the eSIM on/off in settings too. When I turn it on, it disables the physical SIM in slot 2.
I might have another play around with it later on and see if I can sign up to another phone provider, in the name of testing the functionality haha

Ok, so I've tried to set up eSIM on the converted China version and it doesn't work.
While the option enables and shows as a device feature, tapping on the Add button does nothing.
I'd say the hardware is disabled on the China version.

br3tty said:
Ok, so I've tried to set up eSIM on the converted China version and it doesn't work.
While the option enables and shows as a device feature, tapping on the Add button does nothing.
I'd say the hardware is disabled on the China version.
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Thanks for taking one for the team! That's good to know.

sunxutian said:
I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon
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switching to OOS can solve the region block problem? As I am not in a region-lock country, I cannot tell other users.